m****a
发帖数: 2593 | |
T*******x
发帖数: 8565 | |
d*****n
发帖数: 2132 | |
g**n
发帖数: 25142 | |
o**o
发帖数: 3964 | 5 amazon上初始评价很正面，不过这些vine program估计并不是主流科幻读者。以前我们
看英文科幻小说都是很高大上，中文科幻总觉得缺点什么。现在是个很好的机会观察英
文读者究竟是什么平均水平，呵呵。 |
c****7
发帖数: 4192 | |
c****7
发帖数: 4192 | |
l****u
发帖数: 3449 | 8 just 第一部
【在 c****7 的大作中提到】
: 3部都在一起了吗？
|
m****a
发帖数: 2593 | |
T*******x
发帖数: 8565 | |
|
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d*****n
发帖数: 2132 | |
g**n
发帖数: 25142 | |
o**o
发帖数: 3964 | 13 amazon上初始评价很正面，不过这些vine program估计并不是主流科幻读者。以前我们
看英文科幻小说都是很高大上，中文科幻总觉得缺点什么。现在是个很好的机会观察英
文读者究竟是什么平均水平，呵呵。 |
c****7
发帖数: 4192 | |
c****7
发帖数: 4192 | |
l****u
发帖数: 3449 | 16 just 第一部
【在 c****7 的大作中提到】
: 3部都在一起了吗？
|
m****a
发帖数: 2593 | 17 现在已经有28个review, 4星评价。
有个评论挺有意思，估计在西方scifi读者眼里就没有什么新鲜的idea
“The general plot of this book is not especially different from the plot of
X-files. There is an alien planet (somewhere out there) that needs a new
home. They want to come to Earth, because it's the closest planet to their
home planet. There are people here who have a mysterious tie to the aliens.
The book moves pretty slowly, and it takes a while to even begin to know
what is going on.”
【在 o**o 的大作中提到】
: amazon上初始评价很正面，不过这些vine program估计并不是主流科幻读者。以前我们
: 看英文科幻小说都是很高大上，中文科幻总觉得缺点什么。现在是个很好的机会观察英
: 文读者究竟是什么平均水平，呵呵。
|
l********e
发帖数: 127 | 18 我觉得老外很多是读不懂三体的，尤其是第一步，背景太中国了。
但是大刘的科幻思想，确实是一流的。
只是希望翻译的时候能在文字上再润色一下。 |
p*********w
发帖数: 606 | 19 刘宇昆翻译的，应该有相当水准。
【在 l********e 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得老外很多是读不懂三体的，尤其是第一步，背景太中国了。
: 但是大刘的科幻思想，确实是一流的。
: 只是希望翻译的时候能在文字上再润色一下。
|
m****a
发帖数: 2593 | |
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m****a
发帖数: 2593 | 21 《三体》星云奖的竞争对手们
同获星云奖长篇奖提名的另外5部小说。
The Goblin Emperor, Katherine Addison (Tor)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0765365685/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF
这部奇幻长篇在Amazon有167名读者评论，4.4星，跟《三体》看起来不相上下。不过，
考虑到星云奖是专业作家投票，而《三体》有不少专业作家都给予了非常高的评论，恐
怕《三体》略胜一筹。
Trial by Fire, Charles E. Gannon (Baen)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/125005088X/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF
这部科幻长篇是一部续集作品。前面一部曾经获得过星云奖提名，不过没有获奖。
Amazon上有4.7星的高分，不过只有33篇读者评论，恐怕难以比肩《三体》。
Ancillary Sword, Ann Leckie (Orbit US; Orbit UK)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316246654/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF
这部长篇也是续集作品。第一部Ancillary Justice是去年星云奖长篇得主，想再获星
云奖恐怕有些困难吧。
Coming Home, Jack McDevitt (Ace)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0425260879/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF
作者 Jack McDevitt曾经多次获星云奖提名，而且曾以科幻长篇《Seeker》获得2006年
星云奖。不过，老爷子这部提名作品在Amazon上只有4.1星，114篇读者评论，不算是太
给力啊。估计又是一部候选但不能获奖的作品啦。
Annihilation, Jeff VanderMeer (FSG Originals; Fourth Estate; HarperCollins
Canada)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0374104093/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF
跟《三体》一样，Jeff VanderMeer的这部长篇也是一个三部曲的第一部。在美国科幻
作家和评论家里颇受欢迎。在Amazon上有489篇读者评论，可见其引人注目的程度。不
过Amazon的读者评分只有3.7星。无论如何，这本书会是《三体》的有力的竞争者。这
本书我慕名读过，确实不错。不过感觉分量较轻，只有208页不说，故事的格局也不大
，个人感觉跟《三体》比恐怕《三体》还是略为胜出。不过如果《三体》和《
Annihilation》有幸能再一起争夺雨果奖的话，鹿死谁手就很难说了。
结论：《三体》今年获星云奖的机会非常之大。当然，星云奖是由美国专业作家投票表
决，最后能不能获奖，不在中国读者的控制之下啦。让我们期待吧！ |
m****a
发帖数: 2593 | 22 现在已经有28个review, 4星评价。
有个评论挺有意思，估计在西方scifi读者眼里就没有什么新鲜的idea
“The general plot of this book is not especially different from the plot of
X-files. There is an alien planet (somewhere out there) that needs a new
home. They want to come to Earth, because it's the closest planet to their
home planet. There are people here who have a mysterious tie to the aliens.
The book moves pretty slowly, and it takes a while to even begin to know
what is going on.”
【在 o**o 的大作中提到】
: amazon上初始评价很正面，不过这些vine program估计并不是主流科幻读者。以前我们
: 看英文科幻小说都是很高大上，中文科幻总觉得缺点什么。现在是个很好的机会观察英
: 文读者究竟是什么平均水平，呵呵。
|
l********e
发帖数: 127 | 23 我觉得老外很多是读不懂三体的，尤其是第一步，背景太中国了。
但是大刘的科幻思想，确实是一流的。
只是希望翻译的时候能在文字上再润色一下。 |
p*********w
发帖数: 606 | 24 刘宇昆翻译的，应该有相当水准。
【在 l********e 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得老外很多是读不懂三体的，尤其是第一步，背景太中国了。
: 但是大刘的科幻思想，确实是一流的。
: 只是希望翻译的时候能在文字上再润色一下。
|
m****a
发帖数: 2593 | |
m****a
发帖数: 2593 | 26 《三体》星云奖的竞争对手们
同获星云奖长篇奖提名的另外5部小说。
==================================================
The Goblin Emperor, Katherine Addison (Tor)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0765365685/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF
这部奇幻长篇在Amazon有167名读者评论，4.4星，跟《三体》看起来不相上下。不过，
考虑到星云奖是专业作家投票，而《三体》有不少专业作家都给予了非常高的评论，恐
怕《三体》略胜一筹。
==================================================
Trial by Fire, Charles E. Gannon (Baen)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/125005088X/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF
这部科幻长篇是一部续集作品。前面一部曾经获得过星云奖提名，不过没有获奖。
Amazon上有4.7星的高分，不过只有33篇读者评论，恐怕难以比肩《三体》。
==================================================
Ancillary Sword, Ann Leckie (Orbit US; Orbit UK)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316246654/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF
这部长篇也是续集作品。第一部Ancillary Justice是去年星云奖长篇得主，想再获星
云奖恐怕有些困难吧。
==================================================
Coming Home, Jack McDevitt (Ace)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0425260879/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF
作者 Jack McDevitt曾经多次获星云奖提名，而且曾以科幻长篇《Seeker》获得2006年
星云奖。不过，老爷子这部提名作品在Amazon上只有4.1星，114篇读者评论，不算是太
给力啊。估计又是一部候选但不能获奖的作品啦。
==================================================
Annihilation, Jeff VanderMeer (FSG Originals; Fourth Estate; HarperCollins
Canada)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0374104093/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF
跟《三体》一样，Jeff VanderMeer的这部长篇也是一个三部曲的第一部。在美国科幻
作家和评论家里颇受欢迎。在Amazon上有489篇读者评论，可见其引人注目的程度。不
过Amazon的读者评分只有3.7星。无论如何，这本书会是《三体》的有力的竞争者。这
本书我慕名读过，确实不错。不过感觉分量较轻，只有208页不说，故事的格局也不大
，个人感觉跟《三体》比恐怕《三体》还是略为胜出。不过如果《三体》和《
Annihilation》有幸能再一起争夺雨果奖的话，鹿死谁手就很难说了。
结论：《三体》今年获星云奖的机会非常之大。当然，星云奖是由美国专业作家投票表
决，最后能不能获奖，不在中国读者的控制之下啦。让我们期待吧！ |
m****a
发帖数: 2593 | 27 乔治 R.R.马丁谈《三体》
乔治 R.R.马丁读完了《三体》，称“I liked THREE-BODY PROBLEM, but I can't say
I loved it”，很期待看第二部。认为《三体》当得起获雨果奖提名，并很有可能获
得雨果奖，而且他还很确定《三体》非常有望获得星云奖：http://grrm.livejournal.com/426205.html
Reading for Hugos
May. 3rd, 2015 at 5:11 PM
In my copious spare time (hoo-hah), I am continuing to work my way through
the ballot for this years's Hugo Awards.
Just finished THE THREE-BODY PROBLEM, by Cixin Liu, originally written in
Chinese and translated by Ken Liu. This was the novel that just missed in
the original round of nominations, only to secure a place on the ballot when
Marko Kloos withdrew. In a half-century of Hugo Awards, there have been
very few non-English originals ever nominated, and certainly never one from
China, so THREE-BODY is a breakthrough book in that respect, and a sign that
"worldcon" is (very slowly) becoming more global.
This is a very unusual book, a unique blend of scientific and philosophical
speculation, politics and history, conspiracy theory and cosmology, where
kings and emperors from both western and Chinese history mingle in a
dreamlike game world, while cops and physicists deal with global
conspiracies, murders, and alien invasions in the real world.
It's a worthy nominee.
If you like lots of science in your SF, this is a book for you, especially
if you love theoretical physics, astrophysics, and mathemathics. The Chinese
background is fascinating, especially the look at the Cultural Revolution
and its aftereffects. And the prose is very clean and tight, which is not
always the case with translations, which sometimes come across as a bit
clunky. Ken Liu did a fine job, in that respect; the writing flows.
The central character at the heart of the novel is a fascinating and complex
creation, but she is not the protagonist for most of the book, and the
character who does fill that role comes across as very flat, more a
viewpoint than a person. One of the secondary players, an abrasive cop, is
much more successful; he's a bit of an asshole, but the story really comes
to life whenever he's on stage.
All in all, I liked THREE-BODY PROBLEM, but I can't say I loved it. I
thought the book started off very strong, but sagged in the middle before
picking up speed again toward the end. And the ultimate ending was
unsatisfying... mainly because, as I now see, this is just the first of
three. I DO want to know what happens next, though. So I will be reading the
next.
Now that THE THREE-BODY PROBLEM is on the ballot, I'd say that it is the
likely favorite to win (and I am pretty sure it is about to pick up the
Nebula as well). It seems to have admirers on both sides of Puppygate, which
will stand it in good stead, and it should do very well with hard science
fans and the ANALOG readers.
I am not going to reveal which book is going to get my own Hugo vote... only
which ones I think are Hugo-worthy, and deserving of a spot above NO AWARD.
So far, both THE THREE-BODY PROBLEM and THE GOBLIN EMPEROR rank above the
line for me.
The other nominees still await my attention.
Anyone else read the Cixin Liu yet? What did you think of it?
Talking about books, after all, is what these awards are supposed to be
about. |
