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o*****t
发帖数: 1540 | 1 内容自己看，不说了。我就一句话，亚裔愣是被从diversity和minority中被华丽的忽
视了。敌人亡我之心远远未死，而且开始造势。
Colleges Straining to Restore Diversity
Bans on Race-Conscious Admissions Upend Racial Makeup at California Schools
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230473280457
With the U.S. Supreme Court poised to rule on race-conscious college-
admissions policies, University of California officials say they still
struggle to meet diversity goals for their university system 18 years after
state voters banned affirmative action.
For that reason, UC officials filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the
Supreme Court's review of a nearly identical ban at Michigan's public
universities.
"The UC experience is highly relevant," their brief said. Nearly two decades
after the ban passed, "the University of California still struggles to
enroll a student body that encompasses the broad racial diversity of the
state."
The takeaway from UC's experience isn't clear-cut. The percentage of
admitted Latino and African-American resident applicants at the UC system's
most competitive campuses in Berkeley and Los Angeles dropped to 12% in 2013
from about 46% before Proposition 209's affirmative-action ban was approved
by voters in 1996. | n******n
发帖数: 12088 | 2 what's competitive? what's diversity? what's the university's pursuit?
Schools
after
【在 o*****t 的大作中提到】
: 内容自己看，不说了。我就一句话，亚裔愣是被从diversity和minority中被华丽的忽
: 视了。敌人亡我之心远远未死，而且开始造势。
: Colleges Straining to Restore Diversity
: Bans on Race-Conscious Admissions Upend Racial Makeup at California Schools
: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230473280457
: With the U.S. Supreme Court poised to rule on race-conscious college-
: admissions policies, University of California officials say they still
: struggle to meet diversity goals for their university system 18 years after
: state voters banned affirmative action.
: For that reason, UC officials filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the
| r******r
发帖数: 303 | 3 “ The percentage of
admitted Latino and African-American resident applicants at the UC system's
most competitive campuses in Berkeley and Los Angeles dropped to 12% in 2013
from about 46% before Proposition 209's affirmative-action ban was approved
by voters in 1996.”
这个数据真实吗？是假数据吧？ | n****l
发帖数: 6652 | 4 wsj应该是右派的吧。
这加大的一群校长，肯定不止那个ucla的jerk, 估计脑壳都有问题。。。
Schools
after
【在 o*****t 的大作中提到】
: 内容自己看，不说了。我就一句话，亚裔愣是被从diversity和minority中被华丽的忽
: 视了。敌人亡我之心远远未死，而且开始造势。
: Colleges Straining to Restore Diversity
: Bans on Race-Conscious Admissions Upend Racial Makeup at California Schools
: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230473280457
: With the U.S. Supreme Court poised to rule on race-conscious college-
: admissions policies, University of California officials say they still
: struggle to meet diversity goals for their university system 18 years after
: state voters banned affirmative action.
: For that reason, UC officials filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the
| n******n
发帖数: 12088 | 5 46% of total applicants or just black and latino?
s
2013
approved
【在 r******r 的大作中提到】
: “ The percentage of
: admitted Latino and African-American resident applicants at the UC system's
: most competitive campuses in Berkeley and Los Angeles dropped to 12% in 2013
: from about 46% before Proposition 209's affirmative-action ban was approved
: by voters in 1996.”
: 这个数据真实吗？是假数据吧？
| n******n
发帖数: 12088 | 6 we shouldn't focus on left or right but wrong or right.
【在 n****l 的大作中提到】
: wsj应该是右派的吧。
: 这加大的一群校长，肯定不止那个ucla的jerk, 估计脑壳都有问题。。。
:
: Schools
: after
| x****e
发帖数: 1773 | 7 这里有UCB最近几年的数据，需要找1996年及以前的数据。
http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/enrollmentdata.html
2004-2013 UCB 的 head count，按族群分布的变化不大：
http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/DashboardGenderEthnicity.htm
这里有1999到现在每年录取新生按族群分布的数据：
http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/cds/index.html
如果谁能找到1990-1999的数据，应该能说明问题。
不过要考虑这个亚裔，尤其是华人的比例实在是不低。
Schools
after
【在 o*****t 的大作中提到】
: 内容自己看，不说了。我就一句话，亚裔愣是被从diversity和minority中被华丽的忽
: 视了。敌人亡我之心远远未死，而且开始造势。
: Colleges Straining to Restore Diversity
: Bans on Race-Conscious Admissions Upend Racial Makeup at California Schools
: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230473280457
: With the U.S. Supreme Court poised to rule on race-conscious college-
: admissions policies, University of California officials say they still
: struggle to meet diversity goals for their university system 18 years after
: state voters banned affirmative action.
: For that reason, UC officials filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the
| M******e
发帖数: 382 | 8 这是我看过的最无耻的报道了。 看清楚，左边那张图是录取者和申请者的比例，所有
的种族都在下降。
Schools
after
【在 o*****t 的大作中提到】
: 内容自己看，不说了。我就一句话，亚裔愣是被从diversity和minority中被华丽的忽
: 视了。敌人亡我之心远远未死，而且开始造势。
: Colleges Straining to Restore Diversity
: Bans on Race-Conscious Admissions Upend Racial Makeup at California Schools
: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230473280457
: With the U.S. Supreme Court poised to rule on race-conscious college-
: admissions policies, University of California officials say they still
: struggle to meet diversity goals for their university system 18 years after
: state voters banned affirmative action.
: For that reason, UC officials filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the
| p**j
发帖数: 7063 | 9 右派媒体里面也有大量的左派，比如fox里面，他们在学校受新闻媒体教育时已经被传
染了。时不时的会看到右派媒体里面有很左的文章。
【在 n****l 的大作中提到】
: wsj应该是右派的吧。
: 这加大的一群校长，肯定不止那个ucla的jerk, 估计脑壳都有问题。。。
:
: Schools
: after
| s**********n
发帖数: 2343 | 10 这群混蛋脑袋清楚着呢，就是屁股的问题。都是反华， 反亚裔的种族主义分子。
【在 n****l 的大作中提到】
: wsj应该是右派的吧。
: 这加大的一群校长，肯定不止那个ucla的jerk, 估计脑壳都有问题。。。
:
: Schools
: after
| | | c******r
发帖数: 225 | 11 看评论，脑子清醒的人还是有的。
Schools
after
【在 o*****t 的大作中提到】
: 内容自己看，不说了。我就一句话，亚裔愣是被从diversity和minority中被华丽的忽
: 视了。敌人亡我之心远远未死，而且开始造势。
: Colleges Straining to Restore Diversity
: Bans on Race-Conscious Admissions Upend Racial Makeup at California Schools
: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230473280457
: With the U.S. Supreme Court poised to rule on race-conscious college-
: admissions policies, University of California officials say they still
: struggle to meet diversity goals for their university system 18 years after
: state voters banned affirmative action.
: For that reason, UC officials filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the
| b*******r
发帖数: 1073 | | b****g
发帖数: 7311 | 13 mit亚裔是30%，多列一些top 学校的，都不低。
已经是照顾老黑，老莫的了
【在 x****e 的大作中提到】
: 这里有UCB最近几年的数据，需要找1996年及以前的数据。
: http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/enrollmentdata.html
: 2004-2013 UCB 的 head count，按族群分布的变化不大：
: http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/DashboardGenderEthnicity.htm
: 这里有1999到现在每年录取新生按族群分布的数据：
: http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/cds/index.html
: 如果谁能找到1990-1999的数据，应该能说明问题。
: 不过要考虑这个亚裔，尤其是华人的比例实在是不低。
:
: Schools
| x******a
发帖数: 6336 | 14 比列很低啊，要考虑亚裔占世界人口的50%还多
【在 b****g 的大作中提到】
: mit亚裔是30%，多列一些top 学校的，都不低。
: 已经是照顾老黑，老莫的了
| k****m
发帖数: 4670 | 15 恩
【在 x******a 的大作中提到】
: 比列很低啊，要考虑亚裔占世界人口的50%还多
| b****g
发帖数: 7311 | 16 贫穷人口也高啊，如果亚裔都有钱付得起
每年5万学费，录取比例还要高的。
【在 x******a 的大作中提到】
: 比列很低啊，要考虑亚裔占世界人口的50%还多
| D*******1
发帖数: 11303 | 17 Same thing. left is wrong
【在 n******n 的大作中提到】
: we shouldn't focus on left or right but wrong or right.
| c******r
发帖数: 225 | 18 这篇文章春秋笔法，是PRO-209的呀，把mismatch theory用研究者的话说出来了。
Researchers say minority students have benefited in some ways from changes
to affirmative action. In a 2013 paper, a group of economists at Duke
University and the London School of Economics found that "underrepresented
minorities were 4.4 percentage points more likely to graduate" systemwide
after Prop. 209 went into effect, which they attribute in part to the
schools "focusing more resources on the retention of their enrolled students
."
...
把高院的态度抬出来，并且表明race-neutral approaches已经在实施。
Following a Supreme Court ruling last year on how to consider race-conscious
admissions in pursuit of diversity, the Justice Department and Department
of Education provided guidance. A school "should consider whether it can
meet its compelling interest in diversity by using race-neutral approaches,"
the guidance states.
In cases where race is taken into account, it "cannot be given so much
weight that applicants are defined primarily by their race and are largely
accepted or rejected on that basis."
...
最后这一句是点睛之笔，这个文章的态度就是，income-level的diversity已经做得很
好了，毕业率大大提高了，209是非常有效的政策，你干嘛还要开历史倒车。
According to the university, the percentage of first-generation
undergraduate students rose to 42% in 2013 from 34% 10 years earlier. And
more than 40% of the system's undergraduates are from low-income families.
大家看到了吧，主流媒体定调不是一边倒的，WSJ的这篇文章非常好，用H的图正好，比
自己另拿张图另起炉灶好，2/3的行文都在批驳H的说法。这是强有力的武器啊。
Schools
after
【在 o*****t 的大作中提到】
: 内容自己看，不说了。我就一句话，亚裔愣是被从diversity和minority中被华丽的忽
: 视了。敌人亡我之心远远未死，而且开始造势。
: Colleges Straining to Restore Diversity
: Bans on Race-Conscious Admissions Upend Racial Makeup at California Schools
: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230473280457
: With the U.S. Supreme Court poised to rule on race-conscious college-
: admissions policies, University of California officials say they still
: struggle to meet diversity goals for their university system 18 years after
: state voters banned affirmative action.
: For that reason, UC officials filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the
| N****n
发帖数: 6571 | 19 我有一些疑问：中国大陆的外逃资本，即那些贪官污吏或其子女，在加州定居的比
例是不是远多于世界其他地方？
这帮人凭借贪来的不义之财，是不是大量占用了加州华人的教育资源配额？ | N****n
发帖数: 6571 | 20 但是在美国的亚裔比例不高嘛。-------这个看看是不是让联合国出面，让美国政府
多点全球观？
【在 x******a 的大作中提到】
: 比列很低啊，要考虑亚裔占世界人口的50%还多
| | | p**j
发帖数: 7063 | 21 美国的移民政策，要按国籍分配，不公平，请改用种族比例分配。墨西哥人太多了，多
分给亚裔国家移民名额。
【在 N****n 的大作中提到】
: 但是在美国的亚裔比例不高嘛。-------这个看看是不是让联合国出面，让美国政府
: 多点全球观？
| N****n
发帖数: 6571 | 22 要不你提个动议？
【在 p**j 的大作中提到】
: 美国的移民政策，要按国籍分配，不公平，请改用种族比例分配。墨西哥人太多了，多
: 分给亚裔国家移民名额。
| t*****r
发帖数: 142 | 23 重点谈论UCB 跟 UCLA纯粹是混淆视听.如果考虑整个UC系统,其实并不存在所谓under-
represented minority的问题 (hispanic 28.3%, African American 4.02%, Asian 30
.10%).你可以说亚裔偏高,但西裔跟African也都不低.如果再加上California State跟
community college,亚裔所占比例甚至低于其人口比例.
用UCB,UCLA的数据去justify SCA5是典型的诡辩,因为这两个学校绝对代表不了UC系统
整体的数据,更代表不了加州高等教育的现状.
但是这些数据应该不是现在的重点问题,我们现在的重点还是确保SCA5不要进入公投.但
是如果一旦进入公投,这些数据就可以campaign用: SCA5 is a racism bill based on
lies.
【在 x****e 的大作中提到】
: 这里有UCB最近几年的数据，需要找1996年及以前的数据。
: http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/enrollmentdata.html
: 2004-2013 UCB 的 head count，按族群分布的变化不大：
: http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/DashboardGenderEthnicity.htm
: 这里有1999到现在每年录取新生按族群分布的数据：
: http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/cds/index.html
: 如果谁能找到1990-1999的数据，应该能说明问题。
: 不过要考虑这个亚裔，尤其是华人的比例实在是不低。
:
: Schools
| r*****g
发帖数: 682 | 24 同意这篇文章是反SCA5的， 作为媒体要表现出公允， 但实际上通篇都是先列出UC的说
法， 然后立马上其他学者或数据说明209的好处， 最后的结尾也是肯定209的， 所以
不是帮UC说话， 其实是一一批驳UC的论据。 我们应该多欢迎这样明里讨论SCA5得失，
然后得出反对意见的文章呀。
students
【在 c******r 的大作中提到】
: 这篇文章春秋笔法，是PRO-209的呀，把mismatch theory用研究者的话说出来了。
: Researchers say minority students have benefited in some ways from changes
: to affirmative action. In a 2013 paper, a group of economists at Duke
: University and the London School of Economics found that "underrepresented
: minorities were 4.4 percentage points more likely to graduate" systemwide
: after Prop. 209 went into effect, which they attribute in part to the
: schools "focusing more resources on the retention of their enrolled students
: ."
: ...
: 把高院的态度抬出来，并且表明race-neutral approaches已经在实施。
| T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 25 捣浆糊的又来了
【在 N****n 的大作中提到】
: 我有一些疑问：中国大陆的外逃资本，即那些贪官污吏或其子女，在加州定居的比
: 例是不是远多于世界其他地方？
: 这帮人凭借贪来的不义之财，是不是大量占用了加州华人的教育资源配额？
| E*****5
发帖数: 1068 | | c******r
发帖数: 225 | 27 很遗憾很多人不看文章就先入为主了，包括我昨天下午匆匆一瞥那图，也以为是PRO AA
的老调重弹。
事实上这篇文章要深刻的多，数据和辩驳都非常到位，是支持PROP 209的好材料。
【在 r*****g 的大作中提到】
: 同意这篇文章是反SCA5的， 作为媒体要表现出公允， 但实际上通篇都是先列出UC的说
: 法， 然后立马上其他学者或数据说明209的好处， 最后的结尾也是肯定209的， 所以
: 不是帮UC说话， 其实是一一批驳UC的论据。 我们应该多欢迎这样明里讨论SCA5得失，
: 然后得出反对意见的文章呀。
:
: students
| N****n
发帖数: 6571 | 28 如果你想战胜对手，就得知道比较全面的背景资料。---------他们为什么会有这个
提案？为什么这个提案的受害者其实主要是华裔和韩裔？ 对其他亚裔并无很大害处？
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】
: 捣浆糊的又来了
| h******6
发帖数: 2697 | | m********8
发帖数: 7463 | 30 wsj 是没体里面最公平公正的了。
骂人如果不找到真正该骂的对象，跟坐地下骂街的没受过教育的大妈有何区别
【在 h******6 的大作中提到】
: 美国媒体的嘴脸你们又不是第一天见了
| | | q**6
发帖数: 2068 | 31 这些人不是华人么？为什么不先跟老莫老黑争资源？
【在 N****n 的大作中提到】
: 我有一些疑问：中国大陆的外逃资本，即那些贪官污吏或其子女，在加州定居的比
: 例是不是远多于世界其他地方？
: 这帮人凭借贪来的不义之财，是不是大量占用了加州华人的教育资源配额？
| g****s
发帖数: 340 | 32 胡说什么。你篇帖子中没一句话靠谱。
【在 N****n 的大作中提到】
: 如果你想战胜对手，就得知道比较全面的背景资料。---------他们为什么会有这个
: 提案？为什么这个提案的受害者其实主要是华裔和韩裔？ 对其他亚裔并无很大害处？
| e**1
发帖数: 452 | 33 if we just discuss the topic at mitbbs, who else will know it? | z***i
发帖数: 212 | 34 别给他贴金了。这种休闲文章主要看标题，因为80%-90%的人不会去看内容的。文章的
标题是典型的文不对题，但是说明了作者是个铁杆左派liberal。后面你说的这些都是
trick，要把这个文章写得更圆滑一些，你只要多看看美国媒体怎么写文章“弯曲”报
道就行了。
students
【在 c******r 的大作中提到】
: 这篇文章春秋笔法，是PRO-209的呀，把mismatch theory用研究者的话说出来了。
: Researchers say minority students have benefited in some ways from changes
: to affirmative action. In a 2013 paper, a group of economists at Duke
: University and the London School of Economics found that "underrepresented
: minorities were 4.4 percentage points more likely to graduate" systemwide
: after Prop. 209 went into effect, which they attribute in part to the
: schools "focusing more resources on the retention of their enrolled students
: ."
: ...
: 把高院的态度抬出来，并且表明race-neutral approaches已经在实施。
| c******r
发帖数: 225 | 35 我不用给他贴金，你觉得自己英文好，欢迎写篇文对题的英文稿件，我会很高兴刊载。
【在 z***i 的大作中提到】
: 别给他贴金了。这种休闲文章主要看标题，因为80%-90%的人不会去看内容的。文章的
: 标题是典型的文不对题，但是说明了作者是个铁杆左派liberal。后面你说的这些都是
: trick，要把这个文章写得更圆滑一些，你只要多看看美国媒体怎么写文章“弯曲”报
: 道就行了。
:
: students
| w*********r
发帖数: 2095 | 36 WSJ可是ＧＯＰ的报纸啊。他们不是站在另外一边吗？ | c*********3
发帖数: 6862 | 37 80 years ago, Hitler used exactly the same logic to prosecute the Jews who
amassed the majority of wealth in Germany.
whoever supports this kind of racial prejudice is moronic. | j*****v
发帖数: 7717 | 38 diversify NBA, NFL, NHL first!
大学校长的职位，wsj的编辑也需要diversify,把这帮人都换成劳模老黑 | o*****t
发帖数: 1540 | 39 内容自己看，不说了。我就一句话，亚裔愣是被从diversity和minority中被华丽的忽
视了。敌人亡我之心远远未死，而且开始造势。
Colleges Straining to Restore Diversity
Bans on Race-Conscious Admissions Upend Racial Makeup at California Schools
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230473280457
With the U.S. Supreme Court poised to rule on race-conscious college-
admissions policies, University of California officials say they still
struggle to meet diversity goals for their university system 18 years after
state voters banned affirmative action.
For that reason, UC officials filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the
Supreme Court's review of a nearly identical ban at Michigan's public
universities.
"The UC experience is highly relevant," their brief said. Nearly two decades
after the ban passed, "the University of California still struggles to
enroll a student body that encompasses the broad racial diversity of the
state."
The takeaway from UC's experience isn't clear-cut. The percentage of
admitted Latino and African-American resident applicants at the UC system's
most competitive campuses in Berkeley and Los Angeles dropped to 12% in 2013
from about 46% before Proposition 209's affirmative-action ban was approved
by voters in 1996. | n******n
发帖数: 12088 | 40 what's competitive? what's diversity? what's the university's pursuit?
Schools
after
【在 o*****t 的大作中提到】
: 内容自己看，不说了。我就一句话，亚裔愣是被从diversity和minority中被华丽的忽
: 视了。敌人亡我之心远远未死，而且开始造势。
: Colleges Straining to Restore Diversity
: Bans on Race-Conscious Admissions Upend Racial Makeup at California Schools
: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230473280457
: With the U.S. Supreme Court poised to rule on race-conscious college-
: admissions policies, University of California officials say they still
: struggle to meet diversity goals for their university system 18 years after
: state voters banned affirmative action.
: For that reason, UC officials filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the
| | | r******r
发帖数: 303 | 41 “ The percentage of
admitted Latino and African-American resident applicants at the UC system's
most competitive campuses in Berkeley and Los Angeles dropped to 12% in 2013
from about 46% before Proposition 209's affirmative-action ban was approved
by voters in 1996.”
这个数据真实吗？是假数据吧？ | n****l
发帖数: 6652 | 42 wsj应该是右派的吧。
这加大的一群校长，肯定不止那个ucla的jerk, 估计脑壳都有问题。。。
Schools
after
【在 o*****t 的大作中提到】
: 内容自己看，不说了。我就一句话，亚裔愣是被从diversity和minority中被华丽的忽
: 视了。敌人亡我之心远远未死，而且开始造势。
: Colleges Straining to Restore Diversity
: Bans on Race-Conscious Admissions Upend Racial Makeup at California Schools
: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230473280457
: With the U.S. Supreme Court poised to rule on race-conscious college-
: admissions policies, University of California officials say they still
: struggle to meet diversity goals for their university system 18 years after
: state voters banned affirmative action.
: For that reason, UC officials filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the
| n******n
发帖数: 12088 | 43 46% of total applicants or just black and latino?
s
2013
approved
【在 r******r 的大作中提到】
: “ The percentage of
: admitted Latino and African-American resident applicants at the UC system's
: most competitive campuses in Berkeley and Los Angeles dropped to 12% in 2013
: from about 46% before Proposition 209's affirmative-action ban was approved
: by voters in 1996.”
: 这个数据真实吗？是假数据吧？
| n******n
发帖数: 12088 | 44 we shouldn't focus on left or right but wrong or right.
【在 n****l 的大作中提到】
: wsj应该是右派的吧。
: 这加大的一群校长，肯定不止那个ucla的jerk, 估计脑壳都有问题。。。
:
: Schools
: after
| x****e
发帖数: 1773 | 45 这里有UCB最近几年的数据，需要找1996年及以前的数据。
http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/enrollmentdata.html
2004-2013 UCB 的 head count，按族群分布的变化不大：
http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/DashboardGenderEthnicity.htm
这里有1999到现在每年录取新生按族群分布的数据：
http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/cds/index.html
如果谁能找到1990-1999的数据，应该能说明问题。
不过要考虑这个亚裔，尤其是华人的比例实在是不低。
Schools
after
【在 o*****t 的大作中提到】
: 内容自己看，不说了。我就一句话，亚裔愣是被从diversity和minority中被华丽的忽
: 视了。敌人亡我之心远远未死，而且开始造势。
: Colleges Straining to Restore Diversity
: Bans on Race-Conscious Admissions Upend Racial Makeup at California Schools
: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230473280457
: With the U.S. Supreme Court poised to rule on race-conscious college-
: admissions policies, University of California officials say they still
: struggle to meet diversity goals for their university system 18 years after
: state voters banned affirmative action.
: For that reason, UC officials filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the
| M******e
发帖数: 382 | 46 看清楚，左边那张图是录取者和申请者的比例，所有
的种族都在下降。
Schools
after
【在 o*****t 的大作中提到】
: 内容自己看，不说了。我就一句话，亚裔愣是被从diversity和minority中被华丽的忽
: 视了。敌人亡我之心远远未死，而且开始造势。
: Colleges Straining to Restore Diversity
: Bans on Race-Conscious Admissions Upend Racial Makeup at California Schools
: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230473280457
: With the U.S. Supreme Court poised to rule on race-conscious college-
: admissions policies, University of California officials say they still
: struggle to meet diversity goals for their university system 18 years after
: state voters banned affirmative action.
: For that reason, UC officials filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the
| s**********n
发帖数: 2343 | 47 这群混蛋脑袋清楚着呢，就是屁股的问题。都是反华， 反亚裔的种族主义分子。
【在 n****l 的大作中提到】
: wsj应该是右派的吧。
: 这加大的一群校长，肯定不止那个ucla的jerk, 估计脑壳都有问题。。。
:
: Schools
: after
| c******r
发帖数: 225 | 48 看评论，脑子清醒的人还是有的。
Schools
after
【在 o*****t 的大作中提到】
: 内容自己看，不说了。我就一句话，亚裔愣是被从diversity和minority中被华丽的忽
: 视了。敌人亡我之心远远未死，而且开始造势。
: Colleges Straining to Restore Diversity
: Bans on Race-Conscious Admissions Upend Racial Makeup at California Schools
: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230473280457
: With the U.S. Supreme Court poised to rule on race-conscious college-
: admissions policies, University of California officials say they still
: struggle to meet diversity goals for their university system 18 years after
: state voters banned affirmative action.
: For that reason, UC officials filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the
| b*******r
发帖数: 1073 | | b****g
发帖数: 7311 | 50 mit亚裔是30%，多列一些top 学校的，都不低。
已经是照顾老黑，老莫的了
【在 x****e 的大作中提到】
: 这里有UCB最近几年的数据，需要找1996年及以前的数据。
: http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/enrollmentdata.html
: 2004-2013 UCB 的 head count，按族群分布的变化不大：
: http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/DashboardGenderEthnicity.htm
: 这里有1999到现在每年录取新生按族群分布的数据：
: http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/cds/index.html
: 如果谁能找到1990-1999的数据，应该能说明问题。
: 不过要考虑这个亚裔，尤其是华人的比例实在是不低。
:
: Schools
| | | x******a
发帖数: 6336 | 51 比列很低啊，要考虑亚裔占世界人口的50%还多
【在 b****g 的大作中提到】
: mit亚裔是30%，多列一些top 学校的，都不低。
: 已经是照顾老黑，老莫的了
| k****m
发帖数: 4670 | 52 恩
【在 x******a 的大作中提到】
: 比列很低啊，要考虑亚裔占世界人口的50%还多
| b****g
发帖数: 7311 | 53 贫穷人口也高啊，如果亚裔都有钱付得起
每年5万学费，录取比例还要高的。
【在 x******a 的大作中提到】
: 比列很低啊，要考虑亚裔占世界人口的50%还多
| D*******1
发帖数: 11303 | 54 Same thing. left is wrong
【在 n******n 的大作中提到】
: we shouldn't focus on left or right but wrong or right.
| c******r
发帖数: 225 | 55 这篇文章春秋笔法，是PRO-209的呀，把mismatch theory用研究者的话说出来了。
Researchers say minority students have benefited in some ways from changes
to affirmative action. In a 2013 paper, a group of economists at Duke
University and the London School of Economics found that "underrepresented
minorities were 4.4 percentage points more likely to graduate" systemwide
after Prop. 209 went into effect, which they attribute in part to the
schools "focusing more resources on the retention of their enrolled students
."
...
把高院的态度抬出来，并且表明race-neutral approaches已经在实施。
Following a Supreme Court ruling last year on how to consider race-conscious
admissions in pursuit of diversity, the Justice Department and Department
of Education provided guidance. A school "should consider whether it can
meet its compelling interest in diversity by using race-neutral approaches,"
the guidance states.
In cases where race is taken into account, it "cannot be given so much
weight that applicants are defined primarily by their race and are largely
accepted or rejected on that basis."
...
最后这一句是点睛之笔，这个文章的态度就是，income-level的diversity已经做得很
好了，毕业率大大提高了，209是非常有效的政策，你干嘛还要开历史倒车。
According to the university, the percentage of first-generation
undergraduate students rose to 42% in 2013 from 34% 10 years earlier. And
more than 40% of the system's undergraduates are from low-income families.
大家看到了吧，主流媒体定调不是一边倒的，WSJ的这篇文章非常好，用H的图正好，比
自己另拿张图另起炉灶好，2/3的行文都在批驳H的说法。这是强有力的武器啊。
Schools
after
【在 o*****t 的大作中提到】
: 内容自己看，不说了。我就一句话，亚裔愣是被从diversity和minority中被华丽的忽
: 视了。敌人亡我之心远远未死，而且开始造势。
: Colleges Straining to Restore Diversity
: Bans on Race-Conscious Admissions Upend Racial Makeup at California Schools
: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230473280457
: With the U.S. Supreme Court poised to rule on race-conscious college-
: admissions policies, University of California officials say they still
: struggle to meet diversity goals for their university system 18 years after
: state voters banned affirmative action.
: For that reason, UC officials filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the
| N****n
发帖数: 6571 | 56 我有一些疑问：中国大陆的外逃资本，即那些贪官污吏或其子女，在加州定居的比
例是不是远多于世界其他地方？
这帮人凭借贪来的不义之财，是不是大量占用了加州华人的教育资源配额？ | N****n
发帖数: 6571 | 57 但是在美国的亚裔比例不高嘛。-------这个看看是不是让联合国出面，让美国政府
多点全球观？
【在 x******a 的大作中提到】
: 比列很低啊，要考虑亚裔占世界人口的50%还多
| p**j
发帖数: 7063 | 58 美国的移民政策，要按国籍分配，不公平，请改用种族比例分配。墨西哥人太多了，多
分给亚裔国家移民名额。
【在 N****n 的大作中提到】
: 但是在美国的亚裔比例不高嘛。-------这个看看是不是让联合国出面，让美国政府
: 多点全球观？
| N****n
发帖数: 6571 | 59 要不你提个动议？
【在 p**j 的大作中提到】
: 美国的移民政策，要按国籍分配，不公平，请改用种族比例分配。墨西哥人太多了，多
: 分给亚裔国家移民名额。
| t*****r
发帖数: 142 | 60 重点谈论UCB 跟 UCLA纯粹是混淆视听.如果考虑整个UC系统,其实并不存在所谓under-
represented minority的问题 (hispanic 28.3%, African American 4.02%, Asian 30
.10%).你可以说亚裔偏高,但西裔跟African也都不低.如果再加上California State跟
community college,亚裔所占比例甚至低于其人口比例.
用UCB,UCLA的数据去justify SCA5是典型的诡辩,因为这两个学校绝对代表不了UC系统
整体的数据,更代表不了加州高等教育的现状.
但是这些数据应该不是现在的重点问题,我们现在的重点还是确保SCA5不要进入公投.但
是如果一旦进入公投,这些数据就可以campaign用: SCA5 is a racism bill based on
lies.
【在 x****e 的大作中提到】
: 这里有UCB最近几年的数据，需要找1996年及以前的数据。
: http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/enrollmentdata.html
: 2004-2013 UCB 的 head count，按族群分布的变化不大：
: http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/DashboardGenderEthnicity.htm
: 这里有1999到现在每年录取新生按族群分布的数据：
: http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/cds/index.html
: 如果谁能找到1990-1999的数据，应该能说明问题。
: 不过要考虑这个亚裔，尤其是华人的比例实在是不低。
:
: Schools
| | | r*****g
发帖数: 682 | 61 同意这篇文章是反SCA5的， 作为媒体要表现出公允， 但实际上通篇都是先列出UC的说
法， 然后立马上其他学者或数据说明209的好处， 最后的结尾也是肯定209的， 所以
不是帮UC说话， 其实是一一批驳UC的论据。 我们应该多欢迎这样明里讨论SCA5得失，
然后得出反对意见的文章呀。
students
【在 c******r 的大作中提到】
: 这篇文章春秋笔法，是PRO-209的呀，把mismatch theory用研究者的话说出来了。
: Researchers say minority students have benefited in some ways from changes
: to affirmative action. In a 2013 paper, a group of economists at Duke
: University and the London School of Economics found that "underrepresented
: minorities were 4.4 percentage points more likely to graduate" systemwide
: after Prop. 209 went into effect, which they attribute in part to the
: schools "focusing more resources on the retention of their enrolled students
: ."
: ...
: 把高院的态度抬出来，并且表明race-neutral approaches已经在实施。
| T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 62 捣浆糊的又来了
【在 N****n 的大作中提到】
: 我有一些疑问：中国大陆的外逃资本，即那些贪官污吏或其子女，在加州定居的比
: 例是不是远多于世界其他地方？
: 这帮人凭借贪来的不义之财，是不是大量占用了加州华人的教育资源配额？
| E*****5
发帖数: 1068 | | c******r
发帖数: 225 | 64 很遗憾很多人不看文章就先入为主了，包括我昨天下午匆匆一瞥那图，也以为是PRO AA
的老调重弹。
事实上这篇文章要深刻的多，数据和辩驳都非常到位，是支持PROP 209的好材料。
【在 r*****g 的大作中提到】
: 同意这篇文章是反SCA5的， 作为媒体要表现出公允， 但实际上通篇都是先列出UC的说
: 法， 然后立马上其他学者或数据说明209的好处， 最后的结尾也是肯定209的， 所以
: 不是帮UC说话， 其实是一一批驳UC的论据。 我们应该多欢迎这样明里讨论SCA5得失，
: 然后得出反对意见的文章呀。
:
: students
| N****n
发帖数: 6571 | 65 如果你想战胜对手，就得知道比较全面的背景资料。---------他们为什么会有这个
提案？为什么这个提案的受害者其实主要是华裔和韩裔？ 对其他亚裔并无很大害处？
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】
: 捣浆糊的又来了
| h******6
发帖数: 2697 | | m********8
发帖数: 7463 | 67 wsj 是没体里面最公平公正的了。
骂人如果不找到真正该骂的对象，跟坐地下骂街的没受过教育的大妈有何区别
【在 h******6 的大作中提到】
: 美国媒体的嘴脸你们又不是第一天见了
| q**6
发帖数: 2068 | 68 这些人不是华人么？为什么不先跟老莫老黑争资源？
【在 N****n 的大作中提到】
: 我有一些疑问：中国大陆的外逃资本，即那些贪官污吏或其子女，在加州定居的比
: 例是不是远多于世界其他地方？
: 这帮人凭借贪来的不义之财，是不是大量占用了加州华人的教育资源配额？
| g****s
发帖数: 340 | 69 胡说什么。你篇帖子中没一句话靠谱。
【在 N****n 的大作中提到】
: 如果你想战胜对手，就得知道比较全面的背景资料。---------他们为什么会有这个
: 提案？为什么这个提案的受害者其实主要是华裔和韩裔？ 对其他亚裔并无很大害处？
| e**1
发帖数: 452 | 70 if we just discuss the topic at mitbbs, who else will know it? | | | z***i
发帖数: 212 | 71 别给他贴金了。这种休闲文章主要看标题，因为80%-90%的人不会去看内容的。文章的
标题是典型的文不对题，但是说明了作者是个铁杆左派liberal。后面你说的这些都是
trick，要把这个文章写得更圆滑一些，你只要多看看美国媒体怎么写文章“弯曲”报
道就行了。
students
【在 c******r 的大作中提到】
: 这篇文章春秋笔法，是PRO-209的呀，把mismatch theory用研究者的话说出来了。
: Researchers say minority students have benefited in some ways from changes
: to affirmative action. In a 2013 paper, a group of economists at Duke
: University and the London School of Economics found that "underrepresented
: minorities were 4.4 percentage points more likely to graduate" systemwide
: after Prop. 209 went into effect, which they attribute in part to the
: schools "focusing more resources on the retention of their enrolled students
: ."
: ...
: 把高院的态度抬出来，并且表明race-neutral approaches已经在实施。
| c******r
发帖数: 225 | 72 我不用给他贴金，你觉得自己英文好，欢迎写篇文对题的英文稿件，我会很高兴刊载。
【在 z***i 的大作中提到】
: 别给他贴金了。这种休闲文章主要看标题，因为80%-90%的人不会去看内容的。文章的
: 标题是典型的文不对题，但是说明了作者是个铁杆左派liberal。后面你说的这些都是
: trick，要把这个文章写得更圆滑一些，你只要多看看美国媒体怎么写文章“弯曲”报
: 道就行了。
:
: students
| w*********r
发帖数: 2095 | 73 WSJ可是ＧＯＰ的报纸啊。他们不是站在另外一边吗？ | c*********3
发帖数: 6862 | 74 80 years ago, Hitler used exactly the same logic to prosecute the Jews who
amassed the majority of wealth in Germany.
whoever supports this kind of racial prejudice is moronic. | j*****v
发帖数: 7717 | 75 diversify NBA, NFL, NHL first!
大学校长的职位，wsj的编辑也需要diversify,把这帮人都换成劳模老黑 | m*h
发帖数: 2750 | 76 这么说吧，只要八马在台上，或是老黑劳模在台上，这帮舔腚的狗就永远会头脑不清，
数据造假 | A********t
发帖数: 328 | 77 他这个说的没错，是拉丁裔和非洲裔学生的录取率严重下降。
其实文章后面也提到整体的入学总数比例是上升的，换句话说，申请的总人数大大提高
了，但录取的人数赶不上申请的人数
s
2013
approved
【在 r******r 的大作中提到】
: “ The percentage of
: admitted Latino and African-American resident applicants at the UC system's
: most competitive campuses in Berkeley and Los Angeles dropped to 12% in 2013
: from about 46% before Proposition 209's affirmative-action ban was approved
: by voters in 1996.”
: 这个数据真实吗？是假数据吧？
| A********t
发帖数: 328 | 78 “UC has spent more than a half-billion dollars since 1998—when the ban
took effect—on outreach programs and has tailored eligibility requirements
and application reviews to attract and admit more low-income and first-
generation students, many of whom are minorities. System leaders say they
are still unable to meet diversity goals systemwide—particularly at UCLA
and Berkeley.”
好像可以"隐约"解释为什么UCLA和UC Berkeley对SCA-5那么热衷
为了达到学生多元化的目的或者要求 (同时由于无种族差别的激烈竞争，好学校嘛，这
是我估计的) ，他们必须花很大人力，物力，财力去争取少数族裔申请并且接受offer
(文中没提是否主要针对是西裔和非洲裔，但我猜是，因为亚裔的如果拿到这样的offer
，没奖学金父母都会拼一把) 。但其他UC和CSU的学校压力没那么大，因为竞争肯定不
如这两个学校激烈。
所以设想一下，如果SCA-5通过，某些族裔(如亚裔)的竞争优势得到抑制，学校不用费
很大劲就可以实现多元化目标：对西裔和非洲裔学生的要求降低了，学校可以录取的这
两个族裔的pool就大了。
文章后面还提到：为了留住好学生，他们就得跟其他学校bid。如果拉丁裔的pool加大
，那部分进来的学生竞争力差，选择余地小，这两个学校就不用太费心给好package跟
私立学校竞争
当然，这两个学校对多元化的要求应该是甚于对生源质量的要求。或者说，他们不担心
这点生源质量的下降，因为学校质量摆在那，总能收到足够好的学生。但对那些同种族
竞争实力相对弱一些的学生及其家长来说，命运的改变就不小了。
从学生家长角度做个不恰当的比喻，这有点像有钱的家长希望把家庭年收入作为录取标
准，这样家庭条件好，学习成绩差的小孩就更容易上好大学了，而大学也不用操太多心
给穷人家学生减免学费了。
原文饶老绕去，也不知道我的理解对不对，权当周末讨论
【在 r*****g 的大作中提到】
: 同意这篇文章是反SCA5的， 作为媒体要表现出公允， 但实际上通篇都是先列出UC的说
: 法， 然后立马上其他学者或数据说明209的好处， 最后的结尾也是肯定209的， 所以
: 不是帮UC说话， 其实是一一批驳UC的论据。 我们应该多欢迎这样明里讨论SCA5得失，
: 然后得出反对意见的文章呀。
:
: students
| R*******d
发帖数: 13640 | 79 "Diversity based on race is racist, and it's just that simple."
"基于种族的多样性是种族主义，就这么简单。"
【在 c******r 的大作中提到】
: 看评论，脑子清醒的人还是有的。
:
: Schools
: after
| s*******s
发帖数: 9926 | 80 WSJ这篇报导采用的是Ed Hernandez的错误数据 详见世界日报
SCA5提案 数据偏颇矛盾
记者张越／洛杉矶报导
March 05, 2014 06:29 AM
SCA5提案发起人，参议员贺南德兹表示，自加州宪法209修正案提出后，少数族裔在加
州的公立大学系统（包括UC，CSU以及社区学院）的录取率显著下降，但贺南德兹所列
的数据，完全相互无关，根本无法得出他所说的结论。在他网站中，干脆没有提任何数
据证据，直接下了“多元化在减弱”的结论，甚至用部分数据描述全局状况，可谓用心
良苦。
根据加州法律，任何提案都必须要有提案分析报告（bill analysis），来提供更多的
相关信息，以便议员了解状况后投票。在贺氏的提案分析中，通篇只有一处提供了具体
的数据来支持他的观点。该数据为：1995年，加州的高中毕业生（high school
graduates）有38%是少数族裔，加大系统大一新生中少数族裔占21%，其中的差额为17%
。到了2009年，虽然少数族裔已经占加州高中毕业生的52%，但入学加大的新生中只有
28%是少数族裔，两者的差额“高达”24%。
明眼的人可以发现，导致贺氏得出“差距惊人”结论的，是两组风马牛不相关的数据，
也就是说，贺氏非要拿西瓜和苹果做对比，然后得出“苹果正在惊人地变小”的结论。
首先，根据加州教育厅的规定，高中毕业、加大录取、州大录取三者的要求是不一样的
。比如，学生只需学习三年的英语和数学即可拿到高中毕业证，但想要被加大和州大录
取，则必须学四年。也就是说，一个学生即使可以拿到毕业证，但也可能根本不符合大
学的录取条件，没有资格申请大学，何谈能否被录取？ 这就好比一边说多少人拿到了
护士资格，但得出的结论却是，“护士中拿到医师资格的人太少了，这不公平”。用如
此混淆的数据误导民众，贺氏心态令人难以苟同。
其次，虽然贺氏提案要求包括UC，CSU和社区学院在内的所有公立大学招生都考虑族裔
和性别，但他却通篇都在批评UC，而丝毫不提CSU和社区学院的学生族裔构成。他所提
供的唯一数据，也是UC的状况，而没有其他公立大学。但数据表明，CSU里拉美裔学生
已经占34%，高于其他任何族裔，但贺氏为何只字不提？用不完整的数据形容全局状况
，本报记者电话联系贺南德兹办公室查证，未获回应。但就是这样一份漏洞百出的分析
，在参议会表决时居然没有人提出异议，参议员们到底有没有用脑子在投票，选民们不
禁要质疑了。
Read more: 世界新闻网-北美华文新闻、华商资讯 - SCA5提案 数据偏颇矛盾
夏乐柏批贺南德兹不够严谨
记者张越／洛杉矶报导
March 05, 2014 06:40 AM
加州SCA5提案在华裔社区引发争议和反弹，加州参议会共和党主席夏乐柏（Bob Huff）
4日表示，SCA5提案的发起者在数据来源不明的情况下，就直接说“公立大学不能代表
加州的多元化现实”，有误导之嫌。其实加州大学（UC）以及州立大学（CSU）学生现
状已呈现多元化。，尤其是加州大学系统，被列为全国最为多元化的大学校园之一，贺
南德兹的观点没有可信的数据支持，态度不够严谨。夏乐柏还表示，虽然目前加大系统
表示不会使用族裔配额制（racial quota），但难保换一种说法，而行族裔配额之实。
贺南德兹在该提案的说明中表示，自从加州禁止在公立机构将族裔纳入考量后“加大和
州大的少数族裔学生显著下降”，但夏乐柏表示，根据位于洛杉矶的智库Community
Advocates Incorporated的数据，加州禁止在公立机构中考量族裔后，加州大学招生的
族裔完全反映了加州的族裔结构，且更加多元化。
他说，如1996年西裔在加州大学学生中仅占14.3%，但2006高达25.8%，几乎翻倍。这已
经完全反映了加州族裔结构变化，并没有出现贺南德兹所谓的少数族裔学生显著下降。
该智库是中立不分党派的智库，董事会成员既有共和党又有民主党。
夏乐柏表示，作为第二梯队的加州州立大学系统，虽然亚裔学生增长并不显著，但拉美
裔学生从21.49%上升至33.9%，如果将加大和州大的拉美裔学生加起来，甚至超过了拉
美裔在整个加州的比例，还不能说明加州公立大学有多么的多元化？
一旦SCA5不幸通过，加大录取是否会实行族裔配额制？夏乐柏表示，目前加州拜第209
号宪法修正案所赐，族裔配额非法，但一旦该修正案因为SCA5而在大学招生中失去作用
，再加上联邦法律认为招聘或录取可以将族裔或性别纳入考量，那么很可能会变相实行
族裔配额。他说，加大当然不会明确实行族裔配额，但也许会通过其他名称，而达到族
裔配额的目的。夏乐柏说，按照加大目前的招生方法，按照学生的成就录取，已经实现
了多元化的目标，不用再搞出按族裔录取的招数。而且在目前的录取规则下，加州大学
目前是最有活动的公立大学，更证明了不用搞按族裔录取。
Read more: 世界新闻网-北美华文新闻、华商资讯 - 夏乐柏批贺南德兹不够严谨 | | | s*******s
发帖数: 9926 | 81 本文的网路版本在这里: http://nosca5.blogspot.com/2014/02/sca5.html
反对SCA-5具体有效的步骤, 请转发
从我做起, 从现在做起! 我们还来得及反对SCA5. 目前, 加州众议院的80席中, 有55席
民主党, 25席共和党. 对这个法案SCA5的支持是党派分票, 所以我们只需要保证 2个以
上民主党议员勇敢地站出来, 投票反对, 我们就可以让法案胎死腹中. 现在我们可以做
的是写信给代表我们选区的加州众议员, 去他们的网站给他们写.
Step 1: 下面网站里选Act Now有两个请愿投票, 有时间先去投票, 这两个网站都需要
注册, 但是Change.org和Whitehouse.gov是最常见的请愿网站, 将来一定该还有用到的
机会, 花点时间注册并不吃亏. 不過必須強調這兩個投票實際效果是零, 並不能解決問
題, 其主要功能就僅僅是壮大声势.
http://www.saynosca5.com/
美亚团结促进会的United Against SCA5 - Please click here to sign letter to
contact your elected representatives选项在收集反对SCA-5的加州民众资料, 可以
很快去填一下.
http://www.uaafa.org/
Step 2: http://findyourrep.legislature.ca.gov/
住在加州的朋友先寻找自己选区的州众议员
Step 3:
可能被影响的民主党州众议员列表, 这一份名单有被精心筛选过, 确定是机率比较高,
不会让大家浪费子弹, 集中火力攻击, 先写好篇文章, 这篇下面有很多范例, 不想写直
接找一篇贴上发给对方也没关系, 最重要是让对方了解有这么多人重视这个问题, 内容
其实不重要, 简单表达意思就够. 但最好是自己能添加一些自己的意见, 能够写一篇自
己的文章是最好, 反正能够发那么多遍, 多花点时间在这里也是值得. 然后将这封信用
Email再加上Facebook用Message发给下面列表所有的人, 我自己试过发一遍, 全部发完
应该不会超过15分钟.
其中中间这种https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/地址的要发比较特别, 一定必须要
是填该选区地址, 才能写电子邮件给他们, 不然不会让你发, 所以如果不是自己选区或
是有可用地址的就不用了.
另外除了最简单的发电子邮件外, 也可以打电话, Fax传真, 登门拜访都可以视情况运
用联络.
Wesley Chesbro (North Coast)
710 E Street, Suite 150, Eureka, CA 95501
Tel: (707) 445-7014 Fax: (707) 445-6607
Email: a********************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD02
Richard Pan (潘君达) (Sacramento)
2251 Florin Road, Suite 156, Sacramento CA 95822
Phone: (916)-262-0999 Fax: (916)262-0995
Email: a****************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD09
http://www.drrichardpan.com/contact
https://www.facebook.com/RichardPanMD
Ken Cooley (Sacramento)
2729 Prospect Park Drive, Suite 130, Rancho Cordova, CA 95670
Tel: (916) 464-1910 Fax: (916) 464-1915
Email: a*******************[email protected] & k*[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD08
http://www.kencooley.com/contact
https://www.facebook.com/ken.cooley
Mariko Yamada (Southern Sacramento Valley, Wine Country, & North Bay)
725 Main Street Suite 206, Woodland, CA 95695
Tel: (530) 662-7867 Fax: (530) 662-6370
Email: a*******************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD04
http://www.marikoyamada.net/contact
https://www.facebook.com/assemblymember.yamada
Marc Levine (North Bay)
3501 Civic Center Drive, Room 412, San Rafael, CA 94903
Tel: (415) 479-4920 Fax: (415) 479-2123
Email: a*******************[email protected] & l***************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD10
https://www.facebook.com/joinmarc
Rob Bonta (Central East Bay of the Bay Area)
1515 Clay Street, Ste. 2204, Oakland, CA 94612
Phone: (510) 286-1670 Fax: (510) 286-1888
Email: a******************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD18
http://www.robbonta.com/contact/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Assemblymember-Rob-Bonta/160502927367568
Joan Buchanan (East Bay)
2694 Bishop Dr., Ste. 275, San Ramon, CA 94583
Tel: (925) 328-1515 Fax: (925) 328-1514
Email: a*********************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD16
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Assemblymember-Joan-Buchanan/220573791429818
Tom Ammiano (San Francisco)
455 Golden Gate Avenue, Suite 14300, San Francisco, CA 94102
Phone (415) 557-3013 Fax (415) 557-3015
Email: a********************[email protected] & t*********[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD17
https://www.facebook.com/AssemblymemberTomAmmiano
Phil Ting (丁右立) (San Francisco & San Mateo County)
455 Golden Gate Avenue, Suite 14600, San Francisco, CA 94102
Tel: (415) 557-2312 Fax: (415) 557-1178
Email: a*****************[email protected] & p**[email protected]
i**[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD19
https://www.facebook.com/philtingsf
Kevin Mullin (San Francisco Peninsula)
1528 South El Camino Real, Suite 302, San Mateo, CA 94402
Tel: (650) 349-2200 Fax: (650) 341-4676
Email: a*******************[email protected] & k***[email protected]
i**[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD22
https://www.facebook.com/AssemblymemberKevinMullin
Rich Gordon (San Francisco Peninsula suburbia into Silicon Valley)
5050 El Camino Real, Suite 117, Los Altos, CA 94022
Tel: (650) 691-2121 Fax: (650) 691-2120
Email: a*******************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD24
https://www.facebook.com/RichGordon24
Paul Fong (方文忠) (Silicon Valley)
2105 South Bascom Avenue, Suite 160, Campbell, CA 95008
Tel: (408) 371-2802 Fax: (408) 371-2809
Email: a*****************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD28
http://www.paulfongforcouncil.com/#!contact/c1zdo
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Paul-Fong/12907543117
Bob Wieckowski (East Bay and Silicon Valley)
39510 Paseo Padre Parkway, Suite 280, Fremont, CA 94538
Tel: (510) 440-9030 Fax: (510) 440-9035
Email: a***********************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD25
https://www.facebook.com/bobwieckowski
https://www.facebook.com/Wieckowski4Senate
Mark Stone (Monterey Bay)
701 Ocean Street, 318-B, Santa Cruz, CA 95060
Tel: (831) 425-1503 Fax: (831) 425-2570
Email: a******************[email protected] & i**[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD29
http://friendsofmarkstone.org/contact
https://www.facebook.com/AssemblymemberMarkStone
Adam Gray (Fresno)
690 West 16th St, Merced, CA 95340
Tel: (209) 726-5465 Fax: (209) 726-5469
Email: a*****************[email protected] & a**[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD21
http://www.adamgrayforassembly.com/contact-us
https://www.facebook.com/AdamGrayForAssembly
Rudy Salas (Bakersfield)
1430 Truxtun Ave, #803, Bakersfield, CA 93301
Email: A******************[email protected] & i**[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD32
https://www.facebook.com/rudysalas
https://www.facebook.com/rudysalasjr
Das Williams (Santa Barbara and Ventura)
101 W. Anapamu Street, Suite A, Santa Barbara, CA 93101
Tel: (805) 564-1649 Fax: (805) 564-1651
Email: a*********************[email protected] & das.williams2014@gmail.
com
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD37
https://www.facebook.com/DasWilliamsPage
Steve Fox (Antelope Valley)
41319 12th St West, #105, Palmdale, CA 93551
Tel: (661) 267-7636 Fax: (661) 267-7736
Email: a****************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD36
https://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Support-Steve-Fox-2014/183712445136345
John A. Pérez (Los Angeles & Koreatown)
320 West 4th St, #1050, Los Angeles, CA 90013
Tel: (213) 620-4646 Fax: (213) 620-6319
Email: A***********************[email protected] & HQ@perezforcontroller.
com
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD53
https://www.facebook.com/SpeakerPerez
Chris Holden (Pasadena & Rancho Cucamonga)
600 N. Rosemead Blvd, #117, Pasadena, CA 91107
Tel: (626) 351-1917 Fax: (626) 351-6176
Email: a*******************[email protected] & i**[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD41
https://www.facebook.com/Assemblymember
Ed Chau (周本立) (San Gabriel Valley)
1255 Corporate Center Dr. Ste 306, Monterey Park, CA 91754
Tel: (323) 264-4949 Fax: (323) 264-4916
Tel: (626) 403-3033 Fax: (626) 403-3022
Email: a*****************[email protected] & e*************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD49
https://www.facebook.com/edwin.chau.98
Roger Hernandez (Hacienda Heights & Whittier)
100 North Barranca St, #895, West Covina, CA 91791
Tel: (626) 960-4457 Fax: (626) 960-1310
Email: a**********************[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD48
https://www.facebook.com/Vote.Roger.Hernandez
Mike Gatto (Eastern end of the San Fernando Valley)
300 East Magnolia Boulevard, Suite 504, Burbank, CA 91502
Tel: (818) 558-3043 Fax: (818) 558-3042
Email: a******************[email protected] & [email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD43
http://mikegatto.com/volunteers/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Assemblyman-Mike-Gatto/248355458520271
Richard Bloom (West Los Angeles)
2800 28th Street, Suite 150, Santa Monica, CA 90405
Tel: (310) 450-0041 Fax: (310) 450-6090
Email: a******************[email protected] & r*****[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD50
http://www.richardbloom.com/contact
https://www.facebook.com/RichardBloomCampaign
Al Muratsuchi (South Bay, Beach Cities and the Palos Verdes Peninsula)
3460 Torrance Blvd., Suite 306, Torrance, CA 90503
Tel: (310) 316-2164 Fax: (310) 316-2480
Email: a***********************[email protected] & i**[email protected]
m*****[email protected]
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD66
https://www.facebook.com/almuratsuchi
Sharon Quirk-Silva (North Orange County)
1400 North Harbor Blvd., Suite 601, Fullerton, CA 92835
Tel: (714) 526-7272 Fax: (714) 526-7278
Email: a************************[email protected] & campaign@
sharonquirksilva.com
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD65
https://www.facebook.com/AssemblywomanSharonQuirkSilva
Toni Atkins (San Deigo)
1350 Front St., Room 6054, San Diego, CA 92101
Tel: (619) 645-3090 Fax: (619) 645-3094
Email: a*******************[email protected] & toniatkinsforassembly2012@
gmail.com
https://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov/PublicLCMS/ContactPopup.php?district=AD78
https://www.facebook.com/SDToni
https://www.facebook.com/toni.atkins.52
下面是请愿文章的范例, 电子邮件标题要清楚简洁表达文章内容, 例如Please vote "
NO" on SCA-5!, 发文章时称呼对方用First Name就可以, 写自己的名字的时候最好是
First Name+Last Name, 这样看起来比较正式有力.
写这些请愿信重要的是文章内容尽量不要有族裔色彩, 这样效果反而适得其反, 也就是
文章内容尽量避免有亚裔, 华裔, 韩裔, 西语裔, 非洲裔, 白人这样的字眼出现, 能够
避免尽量避免. 不然收到文章的对象认为你是从族裔立场出发, 而不是从公益立场出发
来写这封请愿信, 效果因此大减, 读完因为本身所属族裔不同, 就很没有说服力. 所以
如果真的有需要用到任何族裔名称的字眼, 也请用在客观的事实资料上, 尽量不要加上
个人主观的判断.
要说服对方第一种方法可以从道德制高点出发, 也就是强调使用种族来决定入学资格的
荒谬, 这里可以引些名人的话或是过去的历史来增加说服力, 例如马丁路德, 曼德拉,
林肯, 独立宣言等, 另外还有当然最好用的我有一个梦演说或是美国梦等, 说明种族歧
视的错误, 来谴责对方. 并强调人人平等的重要性. 最近也出现使用二战期间日裔美国
人被关进集中营, 或是排华法案历史来说服对方的文章.
而第二种方法要从对方的立场出发, 陈述对方反对SCA-5能获得的益处, 这样对方才会
真的被说服, 不过这些写法都是比较高难度的技巧, 不一定要使用, 如果要写可以参考
我写的范例. 首先是平等才能促进竞争, 科学进步, 使得加州在经济上有竞争力, 大家
未来的生活才能更好, 工作机会增加. 其次是加州大学才能继续保持竞争力, 如果加州
大学的排名下降, 这对住在加州的人都是损害. 再来就是所谓的Mismatch问题, 从客观
的历史资料来验证, 若使用种族来录取学生, 会使得学生整体毕业率下降. 因为这些因
为族裔因素而入学的学生, 实际上本身能力并不足以周遭同学竞争, 他们自己也知道自
己是因为族裔因素被录取的, 而不是因为自己的能力, 因此也产生自卑. 研究显示这些
Underprepared准备不足的学生常在班上都是垫底, 很高比例因此被退学或是自己申请
停学, 这对他们自身来说, 反而是场灾难, 已经丧失制定这个政策当初的用意, 因为当
初如果按照自己本身能力申请, 进入适合自己的学校, 和自己差不多水准的人竞争, 反
而能顺利毕业, 人生会更顺利.
第三种方法是分享自己的人生经验, 还有周遭友人小孩的感想, 这部份我就没有办法写
范例, 因为每个人的遭遇不同, 这也很容易说服对方, 特别是要用低姿态来博取对方同
情. 例如写自己移民的背景, 还有对美国梦的向往, 这种写法就可能会写到自己的族裔
, 这时候用较广泛的Asian American亚裔比用较狭隘的Chinese American容易获得对方
共鸣, 不要对别的族裔有任何的批评, 可以尽量试着从小孩的观点语言出发, 或是朋友
间对于自己小孩的未来的忧虑来着手, 较容易说服对方.
最后当然是强调对方支持SCA-5的坏处来说服对方, 第一个最简单的我不会投票支持你,
可以说我本来支持你或是不投票, 但是我现在因为SCA-5一定要投票反对, 而且将来会
一直投票反对, 这样对方感觉到是个损失. 第二个就是强调会去说服亲人朋友投票反对
, 或是我们整个社区都很关心这个教育或平等问题, 不过尽量也不要出现族裔名称的字
眼较好, 稍微暗示对方就够了, 就算要用也要向前面一样, 使用亚裔也不要使用华裔.
第三个当然就是金钱, 可以强调不会再捐献, 如果曾经捐献那是更好, 能够提出捐献的
历史就非常有说服力, 对方钱如果因此可能减少, 当然是非常痛苦.
我写的这些范例都是从公益的观点出发, 如果觉得自己写的不好请尽量引用, 常自己写
些文章英文能力就会进步, 这也是很好的锻炼. 有时间我会尽量再写些请愿信范本, 新
写的我通常是把文章放在http://nosca5.blogspot.com/文章范本部分最上面, 看Blog的一定是最新的, 因为我一定是最先更改Blog的部份, 其他不一定会改.
Dear XXX,
I am writing to express my unreserved opposition to SCA-5 on the grounds
that it will lead to state-sponsored discrimination. In the development of
modern American history, our state and nation have participated in
discrimination against some of our own citizens. During World War II, the
internment of Japanese-American citizens in prison camps represented a low
point in the history of our civil rights. The federal government detained U.
S. citizens just because they are a member of a minority race.
SCA-5 will remove the portion of our State Constitution which prohibits
discrimination in the area of public education. By doing this, SCA-5 is
weakening the laws against discrimination that protect California today. An
applicant's race, color, religion, national origin, or sex will make the
difference in whether or not a student is admitted. Well, that's just Un-
American! If you worked hard, you should not be denied your dream and others
should not reap the rewards. Discrimination is the opposite of who we are
as a state and as a nation.
In additoin accoring to many studies, preferences hurt underrepresented
minorities far more than they help them. At the heart of affirmative action
’s failure is a simple phenomenon called mismatch. The students would be
better served if California offered them the choice of which school best
suits their needs. Moreover, while certainly we want all to get an education
, we must also maintain the competitive edge of our University of California
system schools. By regulating admission on anything other than merit would
cause great harm to the level of excellence we enjoy from our universities.
Therefore I urge a "No" vote on SCA-5. The people of California deserve a
government that supports their hard work and shares their hopes for the
future. Otherwise I will vote against and encourage others to vote against
Democrats who support this bill.
Yours very truly,
XXX
Dear XXX,
I urge you to vote against SCA 5. This bill, the consequence is that it
actually allows our public schools to use race and gender to discriminate
against students. Is that really where we want to go? We teach children the
importance of fairness. We teach children about the evils of injustice
about racism and discrimination. We inspire children with the stories of
people like Martin Luther King, Jr. and Nelson Mandela who worked for
justice. Now truth has become lies and lies have become truth. What words
are we using to teach our children that they should be treated differently
because of their race, instead of their efforts and qualifications?
At the core of making American better is the fundamental question of whether
every American has an equal chance. Not a preferential chance, but an equal
chance. The emphasis on fairness leads to continuous improvement and a high
level of competitiveness. In the United States, fundamental principles
ought to matter. And, there is not more basic than the right to equal
treatment under the law. We judge students only on the basis of their merit
and character, not on the basis of their race or skin color.
Therefore I am writing to urge your immediate action to rescind SCA 5.
Please stop racial discrimination! If SCA 5 receives approval in the State
Assembly, I will vote just to vote against the Democrats no matter what
happens. In addition, I will ask my family and friends to do the same.
Yours most sincerely,
XXX
Dear XXX,
I urge you to take immediate steps against SCA-5. SCA-5 is schemed to change
the California educational system. SCA-5 will eliminate the right to be
protected against all kinds of discrimination in education. Making things
even worse is the fact that SCA-5 is merely the first step towards a
terrible path. SCA-5 would result in mandated discrimination against certain
students applying to UC campuses.
From a purely practical standpoint, a policy of rejecting high-performing
students based on their ethnicity is a self-defeating idea. It goes against
everything our supposedly enlightened state stands for. Fairness is a key
principle upon which our educational system should be based. When students
work hard so they can get into a good school, they should have equal
opportunity at admission regardless of ethnicity or gender. SCA-5 will
undermine this basic principle of fairness.
In addition, according to numerous studies, minority students might feel
stigmatized by affirmative action, believing they were admitted on the basis
of their group status, not individual achievement or ability. These
students often consider themselves second-class students, and feel other
students see them in the same light. They are more likely to fail in school
and drop out. Many of our K-12 schools are failing our students, leaving
them unprepared for college. No student should suffer a huge fall in life
because the school the government has chosen for them is not a good fit.
Everyone loses when students drop out.
I hope that our legislators will have courage to reject SCA-5. You will win
my vote if you vote no to SAC-5. Otherwise I will vote against Democrats
from now on and will advise all friends and family to do the same.
Cordially yours,
XXX
Dear XXX,
I sincerely urge you to vote against SCA-5. President Obama said recently “
Billions of people in India and China are striving hard to out-educate
Americans in mathematics and technology. And every year brings more research
showing them pulling ahead. We live in a 21st century global economy. And
in a global economy, jobs can go anywhere." The United States is facing
unprecedented economic and intellectual competition from countries around
the world. This competition will not be decided on the basis of product
price and assortment but in our classrooms and universities. Technology is
shaping the future of the United States and changing our world dramatically.
According to American Civil Rights Coalition, "In the 17 years Prop 209 has
been in effect, California has led the way towards color-blind government
and increased graduation rates in higher education by using race and gender
neutral policies." Prop 209 results in a significant increase in graduation
rates in higher education. This is exactly what California needs to do.
Qualified college graduates ensure an educated workforce for tomorrow's
economy. If we grant preferential treatment based on race in college
admission, history tells us that fewer students will graduate from colleges.
Employers will not be able to find workers with the qualified skills to
fill an increasingly technical job market. This will affect the quality of
the workforce and the state's economic health. Companies will have to spend
more hire skilled workers, potentially from foreign countries, invest more
heavily in workforce development or even outsource jobs overseas. Therefore
SCA-5 is not in America's best interest.
I, therefore, am writing to urge you to vote against SCA-5. SCA-5 will hurt
our economy in the long run. Everyone in California will suffer from short-
sighted policy-making which holds back our growth. If Democrats pass SCA-5
in the Assembly, I'm sure a lot of people who have knowledge will be
enormously upset.
Yours truly,
XXX
Dear XXX,
I write today to urge you to take immediate action against SCA-5. No one has
the right to discriminate against any individuals based on their race. Just
as Abraham Lincoln declared in his Gettysburg Address, years ago our
fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty,
and dedicated to the proposition that “all men are created equal.”
You cannot change facts simply by repeating a lie over and over again. The
color of someone’s skin doesn’t tell you anything about the traits that
qualify them for college. The color of someone’s skin also does not tell
you anything about that individual’s socioeconomic background. Students
from impoverished backgrounds need special consideration to succeed, no
matter their race.
Say no to racism! Say no to SCA-5. Fight for what generations before us have
fought for. SCA-5 is wrapped up in a claim of racial equality and diversity
, but it is pure evil and a fundamental violation of what true racial
equality means. If Democrats pass SCA-5 in the Assembly, tons of people in
California who have morals will hold this against the entire Democrat Party.
Everyone in our community take this matter seriously.
Sincerely yours,
XXX
Dear XXX,
I strongly urge you to vote NO on SCA-5. Martin Luther King Jr. passed away
46 years ago. What happened to "I have a dream that my four little children
will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of
their skin but by the content of their character."? Judging students by
their skin colors is itself inherently discriminatory. We are living
individuals! We represent only ourselves. No one is over represented here.
We got admitted into universities after working our asses off for years. No
one has the right to discriminate against any individuals based on their
race. The only way to create a society with true racial equality is to stop
considering race in the admission process.
Science and higher education should be "color-blind". Decisions based on
race are not the road to prosperity, equality, or stronger feelings of self
esteem in individuals. Selections based on one's color, not one's
achievements and skills, is only working to separate our society further. It
is ill-advised to set different standards for students based on the color
of their skin. Separating kids only makes them feel inferior and that should
’nt be acceptable to anyone. We ought not say that for some ethnic students
the goal is below some other ethnic students.
Therefore I'm asking you to vote NO on SCA5! Otherwise, I think the Democrat
Party has gone over the edge and need to be voted out. Who will demand
equality and justice for all? We are a nation that was built upon the very
principles that all men, and I emphasize all are created equal. Everyone in
our community will pay particular attention to this matter.
Yours Faithfully,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please figth against SCA-5! Equality has clearly played an important role in
American history. When the founders of the United States of America wrote
in the Declaration of Independence the most sacred notions that "all men are
created equal". They were not ignoring the obvious differences that make
people individuals. Their differences in appearance, personality, aptitude,
skills and character. This essential equality means that no one is born with
a natural right to rule over others without their consent, and that
governments are obligated to apply the law equally to everyone.
The American Dream has always stood for the ideals of freedom, equality, and
opportunity available to every American from the time it entered the
national lexicon. Is the American Dream attainable by all Americans? Most
Americans perceive a college education as the ticket to the American Dream.
However with the passing of SCA-5, this fundamental principle of equality is
violated. It is racial discrimination at its finest. It's racial
discrimination in its purest form. Is this your American Dream? Why has our
state become so lame? The granting of preferential treatment based on race
is not the American way. Education should be color-blind. If you work hard
you get what you deserve.
Please!!! Say No to SCA-5. We need to protect the equal education rights of
our youth. Lawmakers should draft bills to improve education for poor
children regardless of their race. If Democrats pass the proposed SCA5 in
the Assembly, I will vote against any and all Democrats as Democrats are out
of touch with the American People and American Dream.
Best Regards,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote No on SCA-5. What the SCA-5 acutually does is sheer idiocy and
doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. It's amazing that we still judge
people by their race. Is this really how we want to educate our future
generations? Is there ever going to be an end to racism?
It is in fact a no win situation. Children go to schools and have their GPAs
raised due to race. They later go to colleges based on fictitious GPAs.
Unfortunately professors won't be on board with this plan. Most likely they
won't be able to keep up, rank toward the bottom of the class, and quit or
drop out from schools. What a disaster it would be? This is the problem that
we call "mismatch". It is a problem verified by research.
Say No to SCA-5! Preferential treatment based on race in college admission
is not the right practice. California should not enrolled students based on
race rather than qualifications. Lawmakers need to work on bills which
applies to everyone regardless of their race for improvements in the quality
of education for poor communities or for closing the gap where students
have underachieved.
Yours truly,
XXX
Dear XXX,
I strongly urge you to vote NO on SCA-5. This bill against our
constitutional belief that all men are created equal. In addition it against
the "American Dream". That dream of a land in which life should be better
and richer and fuller for everyone, with opportunity for each according to
ability or achievement.
The fundamental flaw in SCA-5 is racial preferences in college admissions
harm their intended beneficiaries. We refer to this problem as "mismatch".
It is a problem documented by a vast and growing array of research. It will
place students in environments where they can neither learn nor compete
effectively. As a result, students quit or drop out from schools. These same
students would thrive had they gone to less competitive schools. As such
racial preferences lead to devastated outcomes.
In addition, having underprepared students entering colleges would greatly
diminish the quality of education. This is a lose-lose scenario. No one
should be allowed to damage our elite University of California system. Once
it is damaged it is really difficult to rebuild. Going to college is a
privilege, not a right. You would have to work hard to earn a spot.
Therefore I'm asking you to vote NO on SCA5! It is the right thing to do.
Preferential treatment based on race in college admission is not the right
practice. The state shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential
treatment on the basis of race.
Yours truly,
XXX
Dear XXX,
I hereby urge you to vote NO to SCA-5! As SCA-5 will roll back the clock to
the days when students were discriminated against based on their race. SCA-5
hide under the disguise of equal opportunity. However SCA-5 is in fact the
antithesis of equal opportunity as it demands equal outcomes. But true
equity demands fair outcomes for all. The injustice of disparities in any
population is when equity is diminished. It is communism in essence since
resources are to be divided equally. It will destroy the incentive to excel
and compete and drag down U.S. competitiveness in the long run.
Lawmakers need to work on bills which applies to everyone regardless of
their race for improvements in the quality of education for poor communities
or for closing the gap where students have underachieved. What messages are
we sending to our children that they should be treated differently because
of their race, instead of their efforts and qualifications?
Therefore I strongly urge you to fight against SCA-5. I have a dream, do you
? Everyone in our community will pay close attention to this matter.
Thank you,
XXX
Dear XXX:
Please vote "NO" on SCA-5. This bill is to include race as a factor to
provide preference in college admissions. I firmly believe that this is
against the fundamental principles of U.S. law and the American legal system
. All men are equal regardless of race.
Therefore, I strongly urge you to vote NO on this matter. Your vote is very
important to everyone in our community.
Thank you,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote "NO" on SCA-5. SCA-5 proposed using race as a factor in college
admissions. I urge you to fight against SCA-5. Just as Martin Luther King,
Jr. said 41 years ago, no children should be judged by the color of their
skin, but by the content of their character. Your child(ren) deserve this
dream. Every American child deserves this dream. Don't you agree? It is
about right or wrong. This is where the difference comes between a
politician and a statesman/woman.
It's your choice which side you're on. I have a dream, do you? The people
who shares the same dream as Martin Luther King, Jr. will remember your
choice. They will decide who they vote for, who they send money to, and who
they canvass for.
Best regards,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote "NO" on SCA-5. It is pure racism! My kids future is as important
as anyone's kids. Why two individuals at the same level of education might
differ in their college admissions? What century do we live in? This is
supposedly a country that believes in equality.
I strongly urge you to fight against SCA-5. Otherwise, no more votes and
donations from me and all my relatives and friends for you or any Democrats.
Everyone in our community will pay close attention to this issue.
Respectfully,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote "NO" on SCA-5. Objection to any law that allow any
discrimination against, or granting preferential treatment to, any
individual or group on the basis of race in the operation of public
education. Racial discrimination is wrong, whichever way it goes, in
whatever name. If diversity is the point of preferences, why only in college
admissions? Why not in the recruitment process of government agencies? in
entertainment, in sports...
I strongly urge you to fight against SCA-5. All men are equal regardless of
race. Otherwise, no more votes and donations from me and all my relatives
and friends for you or any Democrats. Everyone in our community will pay
close attention to this issue.
Best regards,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote "NO" on SCA-5. I am impressed that this clear violation of
constitutional law could even pass the senate! What are senators doing? How
do we explain to our children that what they've been taught on equal
opportunity is no longer true. It has been amended. Martin Luther King, Jr.
said I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a
nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the
content of their character. But it is no longer in accord with reality. Why
don't we amend the employment standards after college admissions? So those
who are entitled to privileges in admission could automatically get
government jobs?
I strongly urge you to fight against SCA-5. All men are equal regardless of
race. Otherwise, no more votes and donations from me and all my relatives
and friends for you or any Democrats. Everyone in our community will pay
close attention to this issue.
Respectfully,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote "NO" on SCA-5. This bill is total racism. What a degradation! It
's a waste of public money for those senators working on this nonsense. The
rational behind the bill is totally ridiculous. We believe in the right of
education for all Californians. California should not enrolled students
based on race rather than qualifications.
I strongly urge you to fight against SCA-5. Otherwise, no more votes and
donations from me and all my relatives and friends for you or any Democrats.
Everyone in our community will pay close attention to this issue.
Sincerely yours,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote "NO" on SCA-5. "I have a dream that my four little children will
one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of
their skin, but by the content of their character."---Martin Luther King, Jr
. Do we helping Martin Luther King's dream(which is my dream too)? Do we
punish hard working students by racial preferences? Is this the right way to
promote better education for California?
I strongly urge you to fight against SCA-5. Otherwise, no more votes and
donations from me and all my relatives and friends for you or any Democrats.
Everyone in our community will pay close attention to this issue.
Yours truly,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote "NO" on SCA-5. The only barrier for student of any colors for
higher education is their work enthusiasm. How about we do the same thing
for the State Assembly? Candidate must collect certain amount of votes (
scores in S.A.T.) to be qualified, then by using qualified candidates’ race
and ethnic background to decide if he/she can become a member of the
California State Assembly. Because "We need to ensure that the State
Assembly reflects our changing population".
I strongly urge you to fight against SCA-5. Students should be admitted
based on merits, not race! Otherwise, no more votes and donations from me
and all my relatives and friends for you or any Democrats. Everyone in our
community will pay close attention to this issue.
Sincerely yours,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote NO on SCA 5 as it is a racist bill. It promotes discrimination
by judging people based on their race. Admission to any school among other
things, should solely based on their own merit and not on their color, race,
and etc. I believe preferential treatment based on race in college
admission is not the right practice. In addition it violates the Equal
Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
I strongly urge you to vote "No" on SCA 5. Students deserve have an equal
opportunity in the college admission process regardless of their race. Thank
you for listening to the voice of your people.
Respectfully,
XXX
Dear XXX,
Please vote "NO" on SCA-5. This is ridiculous and is so wrong! This is a
reverse discrimination. This proposition limits the opportunity of certain
kids to attend the University of California because of their races. Higher
education should be offered to those who can do it.
I strongly urge you to fight against SCA-5. Students deserve have an equal
opportunity in the college admission process regardless of their race. I
always support Democrats. But if Democrats pass SCA-5 in the Assembly, I
will immediately switch my support to Republicans in future elections. Most
people in my community rank education as the most important policy issue.
Best regards,
XXX
最后可以再加上下面这些, 有些文章和一个影像是相当好的.
For more information on this topic, please refer to articles and a video
below.
The Painful Truth About Affirmative Action
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/10/the-painful
Elder vs. State Senator Ed Hernandez (D-CA) on Racial Preferences, Jan. 31,
2014
http://vimeo.com/86149155
In U.S., Most Reject Considering Race in College Admissions
http://www.gallup.com/poll/163655/reject-considering-race-colle
UC proves Prop. 209's point
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/12/opinion/la-oe-lehrer-af
Viewpoints: A step backward on higher education enrollment
http://www.sacbee.com/2014/02/08/6138480/viewpoints-a-step-back
Careful, California voters, your wishes are under attack
http://articles.latimes.com/2014/feb/07/opinion/la-oe-gratz-cal
如果要加文章连结可能要再修整一下, 如果在讨论区用copy & paste有可能贴成不完整
连结, 用nosca5.blogspot.com上的文章就没这个问题, 请注意一下这一点. 要确认一
下是完整的网址.
这里有些反SCA-5的海报, 也可以考虑加在电子邮件中或传真都可以运用.
http://nosca5.blogspot.com/2014/02/sca-5.html
Step 4:
使用下面这个网站邮寄信件给你选区的加州众议员表达意见, 这个网站已经全部帮忙设
定好, 花不到几分钟就可以产生一篇非常完整详细的请愿信.
http://www.no2sca5.org/
http://www.no2sca5.org/#Why-A-Snail-Mail-to-Your-Representative
Step 5:
下面这些是其他加州民主党众议员的联络方式, 我觉得他们改变立场的机率低, 如果要
尝试的话用email再加上facebook的message扫一遍就好了, 应该也花不了太多时间.
Isadore Hall, III
Tel: (310) 223-1201 Fax: (310) 223-1202
Email: a*****************[email protected] & i*****[email protected]
i**[email protected]
http://www.isadorehall.com/ (选Contact Us)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Isadore-Hall-for-Assembly/209986370129
Reggie Jones-Sawyer
Tel: (213) 744-2111 Fax: (213) 744-2122
Email: a*************************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/reggiejonessawyersr
Bonnie Lowenthal
Tel: (562) 495-2915 Fax: (562) 495-2983
Email: a**********************[email protected] & Bonnie@
BonnieforLongBeach.com
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bonnie-Lowenthal/25127873810
Steve Bradford
Tel: (310) 412-6400 Fax: (310) 412-6354
Email: a*********************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/stevenbradford62
Cheryl Brown
Tel: (909) 381-3238 Fax: (909) 885-8589
Email: a******************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/cheryl.brown.988711
Adrin Nazarian
Tel: (818) 376-4246 Fax: (818) 376-4252
Email: a*********************[email protected] & adrinforassembly@gmail.
com
https://www.facebook.com/AdrinNazarian
Bill Quirk
Tel: (510) 583-8818 Fax: (510) 583-8800
Email: a******************[email protected]
http://www.electbillquirk.com/contact
https://www.facebook.com/BillQuirkAD20
Matthew Dababneh
Tel: (818) 904-3840
Email: a*********************[email protected] & m**[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/MattDababnehForAssembly
Tom Daly
Tel: (714) 939-8469 Fax: (714) 939-8986
Email: a*****************[email protected] & [email protected]
Roger Dickinson
(916) 324-4676 Fax: (916) 327-3338
Email: a**********************[email protected] & r***[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/assemblymemberdickinson
Sebastian Ridley-Thomas
Tel: (310) 342-1070 Fax: (310) 342-1078
Email: a**************************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/SRTforAssembly
Nancy Skinner
Tel: (510) 286-1400 Fax: (510) 286-1406
Email: a********************[email protected] & c*****[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/asm.nancy.skinner
Jim Frazier
Tel: (707) 399-3011 Fax: (707) 399-3030
Email: a********************[email protected]
http://jimfrazierforassembly.com/contact-jim-frazier/
https://www.facebook.com/ASMJimFrazier
Shirley Weber
Tel: (619) 531-7913 Fax: (619) 531-7924
Email: a******************[email protected] & i**[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/ShirleyWeberCalliforniaStateAssembly
Susan Bonilla
Tel: (925) 521-1511 Fax: (925) 602-1536
Email: a********************[email protected] & s***[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/JoinSusanBonilla
Luis Alejo
(831) 759-8676 Fax: (831) 759-2961
Email: a******************[email protected] & V***********[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/lalejo
Raul Bocanegra
Tel: (818) 504-3911 Fax: (818) 504-3912
Email: a**********************[email protected] & r**[email protected]
c*****[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/RaulJBocanegra
Ian Calderon
Tel: (562) 692-5858 Fax: (562) 695-5852
Email: a*********************[email protected]
http://ianccalderon.com/#contact
https://www.facebook.com/AssemblymemberIanCalderon
Nora Campos
Tel: (408) 277-1220 Fax: (408) 277-1036
Email: a*******************[email protected]
Susan Eggman
Tel: (209) 948-7479 Fax: (209) 465-5058
Email: a*******************[email protected] & i**[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/susan.eggman
Cristina Garcia
Tel: (562) 861-5803 Fax: (562) 861-5158
Email: a*******************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/cristinagarciaad58
Jimmy Gomez
Tel: (213) 483-5151 Fax: (213) 483-5166
Email: a******************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/assemblymemberjimmygomez
Lorena Gonzalez
Tel: 619-338-8090 Fax: 619-338-8099
Email: a*********************[email protected] & V********[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lorena-Gonzalez-for-State-Assembly/
398973036849751
Jose Medina
Tel: (951) 369-6644 Fax: (951) 369-0366
Email: a*******************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/AsmJoseMedina
Henry Perea
Tel: (559) 445-5532 Fax: (559) 445-6006
Email: a******************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/AssemblymemberPerea
V. Manuel Perez
Tel: (760) 342-8047 Fax: (760) 347-8704
Email: A*************************[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/pages/V-Manuel-Perez-CA-State-Assemblymember/
382172440154
Anthony Rendon
Tel: (562) 529-3250 Fax: (562) 529-3255
Email: a*******************[email protected] & assemblyman.arendon@gmail.
com
https://www.facebook.com/AssemblyMemberAnthonyRendon
https://www.facebook.com/anthonyrendonforassembly
Freddie Rodriguez
Email: a**********************[email protected] & e**********[email protected]
r*****[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Freddie-Rodriguez-for-Assembly/
519771921405293
下面这个人是SCA-5提案人, 请大家让他知道种族歧视是不好的, 不要再继续提出这样
的法案.
Ed Hernandez
Phone: (626) 430-2499 or (323) 981-3320 Fax: (916) 651-4924
West Covina District Office
100 S. Vincent Ave, #401, West Covina, CA 91790
East Los Angeles District Office
4716 E. Cesar E. Chavez Ave, East Los Angeles, CA 90022
Email: s***************[email protected]
http://sd24.senate.ca.gov/contact/email
http://www.edhernandez4senate.com/ (选Contact)
https://www.facebook.com/DrEdHernandez | S****r
发帖数: 472 | 82 How do you know NBA, NFL, etc are not diversified? Do you know how many data
analysts, doctors, lawyers in NBA or NFL are Asian? NBA/NFL is an
organization, have different jobs/position/expertise/etc. The diversity is
not about job titles.
【在 j*****v 的大作中提到】
: diversify NBA, NFL, NHL first!
: 大学校长的职位，wsj的编辑也需要diversify,把这帮人都换成劳模老黑
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发帖数: 472 | 83 "Diversity based ONLY on race is racist, and it's NOT that simple."
Fixed for you.
【在 R*******d 的大作中提到】
: "Diversity based on race is racist, and it's just that simple."
: "基于种族的多样性是种族主义，就这么简单。"
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