r******8
发帖数: 926 | 1 SCA 5 violates the 4th Amendment of the US constitution, violates the
Contract Clause, is against the rulings of Supreme Court decision, against
all the conscience of hard-working people here in Californi and the US,
defeats the very cause people like martin Luther King fought for. SCA 5 uses
the very evil – the majority vote – to deprive the interest of monority
groups. If one majority group can do this against other minority group on
the education issue, What happens to property? what happens to liberty? Even
today’s majorty may become minority in the furture, if we are tolerating
SCA 5 today, how far are we from Hitler’s world in its criminal atrophy
against Jewish people? Wake up, folks, whether your are Jewish, white,
Indida American, Japanese American,Aferican American, or Hispanic American,
we need to stop this, don’t think SCA 5 only impact certain Asian, the
trends, if allowed, will eventually impact your life – by that time, all
the minority interest are deprived aleady and no one is able to help you…a
great society like the Untie States cannot and shall not tolerate the
reverse of our history into the dark age. - See more at: http://calwatchdog.com/2013/07/12/sca-5-would-repeal-much-of-prop-209-anti-discrimination-initiative/#sthash.1iv5mNxb.dpuf | T*********s
发帖数: 2987 | | h*********n
发帖数: 11319 | 3 允不允许以一个人出生时不可更改的种族身份为依据制定政策，是区分现代民主和古代
暴民统治的根本区别。
CA参院通过SCA5，充分说明CA民主党在老墨势力的推动下，已经倒退回了19世纪。
uses
Even
【在 r******8 的大作中提到】
: SCA 5 violates the 4th Amendment of the US constitution, violates the
: Contract Clause, is against the rulings of Supreme Court decision, against
: all the conscience of hard-working people here in Californi and the US,
: defeats the very cause people like martin Luther King fought for. SCA 5 uses
: the very evil – the majority vote – to deprive the interest of monority
: groups. If one majority group can do this against other minority group on
: the education issue, What happens to property? what happens to liberty? Even
: today’s majorty may become minority in the furture, if we are tolerating
: SCA 5 today, how far are we from Hitler’s world in its criminal atrophy
: against Jewish people? Wake up, folks, whether your are Jewish, white,
| B***i
发帖数: 297 | | r******8
发帖数: 926 | 5 Please note this....---Good alarm to everybody including xiao hei wu owners.
..
"SCA 5 uses
the very evil – the majority vote – to deprive the interest of monority
groups. If one majority group can do this against other minority group on
the education issue, What happens to property? what happens to liberty?" | l********e
发帖数: 539 | | y********e
发帖数: 603 | 7
众院也过了？
【在 h*********n 的大作中提到】
: 允不允许以一个人出生时不可更改的种族身份为依据制定政策，是区分现代民主和古代
: 暴民统治的根本区别。
: CA参院通过SCA5，充分说明CA民主党在老墨势力的推动下，已经倒退回了19世纪。
:
: uses
: Even
| h*********n
发帖数: 11319 | 8 笔误
但是民主党在两院都有2/3多数，以他们目前的强硬极左姿态，基本上众院也是肯定通过
。。。
【在 y********e 的大作中提到】
:
: 众院也过了？
| y********e
发帖数: 603 | 9
通过
嗯，要搞定几个民主党议员。
【在 h*********n 的大作中提到】
: 笔误
: 但是民主党在两院都有2/3多数，以他们目前的强硬极左姿态，基本上众院也是肯定通过
: 。。。
| t*********h
发帖数: 941 | 10 haha he listed many races but not chinese americans
uses
Even
【在 r******8 的大作中提到】
: SCA 5 violates the 4th Amendment of the US constitution, violates the
: Contract Clause, is against the rulings of Supreme Court decision, against
: all the conscience of hard-working people here in Californi and the US,
: defeats the very cause people like martin Luther King fought for. SCA 5 uses
: the very evil – the majority vote – to deprive the interest of monority
: groups. If one majority group can do this against other minority group on
: the education issue, What happens to property? what happens to liberty? Even
: today’s majorty may become minority in the furture, if we are tolerating
: SCA 5 today, how far are we from Hitler’s world in its criminal atrophy
: against Jewish people? Wake up, folks, whether your are Jewish, white,
| | | T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 11 核心思想符合我的理念
这也是我为什么来美国的原因之一
uses
Even
【在 r******8 的大作中提到】
: SCA 5 violates the 4th Amendment of the US constitution, violates the
: Contract Clause, is against the rulings of Supreme Court decision, against
: all the conscience of hard-working people here in Californi and the US,
: defeats the very cause people like martin Luther King fought for. SCA 5 uses
: the very evil – the majority vote – to deprive the interest of monority
: groups. If one majority group can do this against other minority group on
: the education issue, What happens to property? what happens to liberty? Even
: today’s majorty may become minority in the furture, if we are tolerating
: SCA 5 today, how far are we from Hitler’s world in its criminal atrophy
: against Jewish people? Wake up, folks, whether your are Jewish, white,
| T******g
发帖数: 21328 | | h**d
发帖数: 5161 | 13 仔细看：
Wake up, folks, whether your are Jewish, white,
Indida American, Japanese American,Aferican American, or Hispanic American,
we need to stop this, don’t think SCA 5 only impact certain Asian
各其他种族不要以为只有亚裔才是受害者。
【在 t*********h 的大作中提到】
: haha he listed many races but not chinese americans
:
: uses
: Even
| u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 14 So many typos in his post . . .
,
【在 h**d 的大作中提到】
: 仔细看：
: Wake up, folks, whether your are Jewish, white,
: Indida American, Japanese American,Aferican American, or Hispanic American,
: we need to stop this, don’t think SCA 5 only impact certain Asian
: 各其他种族不要以为只有亚裔才是受害者。
| D**********R
发帖数: 25234 | 15 这个certain Asian估计是指Chinese了，这个是咱自己人发的吧。。。。 | m*x
发帖数: 200 | 16 难道这不就是民主制度的结果吗？
民主制度下的投票结果向来都是牺牲少数人的利益来服务于大多数人的利益。
不仅SCA5是这样，而且任何的法案都是这样，任何的选举也都是这样!
你能举出一个（选民直接）投票的结果不是use the majority vote to deprive the
interest of monority groups的例子吗？
我觉得这个argument乍起来有力，但是推敲一下，无法用来说服更多的人反对SCA5。
倒是你引用的那段话开头的第一句比较有说服力。
owners.
【在 r******8 的大作中提到】
: Please note this....---Good alarm to everybody including xiao hei wu owners.
: ..
: "SCA 5 uses
: the very evil – the majority vote – to deprive the interest of monority
: groups. If one majority group can do this against other minority group on
: the education issue, What happens to property? what happens to liberty?"
| s*i
发帖数: 5025 | 17 这个是我目前读到最好的，很有说服力。
[发表自未名空间手机版 - m.mitbbs.com] | T*********s
发帖数: 2987 | | k****m
发帖数: 4670 | | h**d
发帖数: 5161 | 20 人不都是短视的，有社会责任感的人其实不少。要是现在有人发动一个歧视其他族裔的
法案，我也会全力反对。
【在 m*x 的大作中提到】
: 难道这不就是民主制度的结果吗？
: 民主制度下的投票结果向来都是牺牲少数人的利益来服务于大多数人的利益。
: 不仅SCA5是这样，而且任何的法案都是这样，任何的选举也都是这样!
: 你能举出一个（选民直接）投票的结果不是use the majority vote to deprive the
: interest of monority groups的例子吗？
: 我觉得这个argument乍起来有力，但是推敲一下，无法用来说服更多的人反对SCA5。
: 倒是你引用的那段话开头的第一句比较有说服力。
:
: owners.
| | | m**********r
发帖数: 2099 | 21 第一句就不对，4th amendment只是限制federal government
uses
Even
【在 r******8 的大作中提到】
: SCA 5 violates the 4th Amendment of the US constitution, violates the
: Contract Clause, is against the rulings of Supreme Court decision, against
: all the conscience of hard-working people here in Californi and the US,
: defeats the very cause people like martin Luther King fought for. SCA 5 uses
: the very evil – the majority vote – to deprive the interest of monority
: groups. If one majority group can do this against other minority group on
: the education issue, What happens to property? what happens to liberty? Even
: today’s majorty may become minority in the furture, if we are tolerating
: SCA 5 today, how far are we from Hitler’s world in its criminal atrophy
: against Jewish people? Wake up, folks, whether your are Jewish, white,
| c****e
发帖数: 9482 | | T*********s
发帖数: 2987 | 23 re
【在 c****e 的大作中提到】
: 顶， 虽然不见得是白人写的 。。。
| L**P
发帖数: 3792 | 24 多数的暴政
Tyranny of the majority
所以三权分立还是有一定作用的，这就是为什么宪法和最高法院有制衡作用
不然prop 8不也多数过了么，还是被否决了
【在 m*x 的大作中提到】
: 难道这不就是民主制度的结果吗？
: 民主制度下的投票结果向来都是牺牲少数人的利益来服务于大多数人的利益。
: 不仅SCA5是这样，而且任何的法案都是这样，任何的选举也都是这样!
: 你能举出一个（选民直接）投票的结果不是use the majority vote to deprive the
: interest of monority groups的例子吗？
: 我觉得这个argument乍起来有力，但是推敲一下，无法用来说服更多的人反对SCA5。
: 倒是你引用的那段话开头的第一句比较有说服力。
:
: owners.
| a*********a
发帖数: 56 | 25 到最高法, 赢的机会不大, 前面2个案例都输了. 还有一个在最高法院审判进行中.
请看下面:
“Fisher v. University of Texas”白人女生Abigail Noel Fisher 和 Rachel
Multer Michalewicz 在2008年申请德州大学奥斯丁分校时被拒绝录取. 由于发现有比
她们成绩低的有色人种学生被录取，她们认为自己受到反向种族歧视， 以宪法第十四
修正案为依据，将学校告上法庭， 并进而要求推翻2003年 Grutter v Bollinger 对平
权法案符合宪法的判决。官司在最高法院审判进行中。
现在的情况是， 最高法院的九名法官中，Elena Kagan已经表示弃权，剩下的八人中，
一般认为，John G. Roberts，Samuel A. Alito，Antonin Scalia 和 Clarence
Thomas 会投票给 Fisher,而Sonia Sotomayor，Stephen Breyer，Ruth J B Ginsburg
会投给 Univ. of Texas。那么法官 Anthony M. Kennedy 则是摇摆票也是关键票。如
果投票结果是4:4，2003年 Grutter v Bollinger 的判决无法推翻，Race-conscious
得以维持，根据惯例，二十年内，类似案件都不可再被讨论。也就是说，大学中种族区
分将再持续二十年，如果投票结果是5:3，Fisher 获胜，那么2003年的判决被推翻，那
么种族区分录取政策则宣告在学校录取中结束，这同时也可能终结了 Affirmative
Action (AA) 在大学录取中所起的作用。 |
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