p*****n
发帖数: 210 | 1 假如我有个投资房，三十万
那么在三十年之后房屋折旧为零
如果这时我把自住卖了，搬到投资房居住两年，假如这个房子涨到五十万，我把它卖掉
应该按多少钱交税呢
谢谢 |
l******c
发帖数: 2555 | 2 when you move back, you need file tax return.
IRS is more smart than you.
Basically, in this country, honest people always lose money
Or you can say, this country is full of cheating and frauding
【在 p*****n 的大作中提到】
: 假如我有个投资房，三十万
: 那么在三十年之后房屋折旧为零
: 如果这时我把自住卖了，搬到投资房居住两年，假如这个房子涨到五十万，我把它卖掉
: 应该按多少钱交税呢
: 谢谢
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k**l
发帖数: 2966 | 3 come on, he is asking for answer and advice, not complaints. In your word,
how do we cheat legally in this case?
【在 l******c 的大作中提到】
: when you move back, you need file tax return.
: IRS is more smart than you.
: Basically, in this country, honest people always lose money
: Or you can say, this country is full of cheating and frauding
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l******c
发帖数: 2555 | 4 report high cost , deduct more negative income each year, sell the rental
property, take all the money back to China, do not pay 1 cent tax
【在 k**l 的大作中提到】
: come on, he is asking for answer and advice, not complaints. In your word,
: how do we cheat legally in this case?
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i******e
发帖数: 1720 | 5 Just move back to the house living for 24-month to qualify the property as
primary residence, then sell it to enjoy no tax on capital gain under 250K/
individual or 500K/couple.
This is legal, isn't it?
【在 l******c 的大作中提到】
: report high cost , deduct more negative income each year, sell the rental
: property, take all the money back to China, do not pay 1 cent tax
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i******e
发帖数: 1720 | 6 There is no cheating that is legal. It's called avoid unnecessary tax. :)
【在 k**l 的大作中提到】
: come on, he is asking for answer and advice, not complaints. In your word,
: how do we cheat legally in this case?
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i******e
发帖数: 1720 | 7 lclclclc, you deleted your earlier post about deduction accumulation of
rental. Could you elaborate it further? Thanks.
Do you mean the tax payer has to pay back the tax on the deduction coming
from the property depreciation that had been claimed in the years when the
property was a rental? |
i******e
发帖数: 1720 | 8 This might not work. I remember there is a form to be signed when closing
escrow for tax withholding if the property is rental and the value is
greater than a certain amount. I think the purpose is to close this
loophole. Can anyone confirm this?
【在 l******c 的大作中提到】
: report high cost , deduct more negative income each year, sell the rental
: property, take all the money back to China, do not pay 1 cent tax
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l******c
发帖数: 2555 | 9 I'm not sure if it is misleading info, so I delete it.
Think about it, rental property has 23.5 years to depreciate the improvement
value, if during this time, convert it to primary residence, how about the
deduct each year?
google it on internet.
【在 i******e 的大作中提到】
: lclclclc, you deleted your earlier post about deduction accumulation of
: rental. Could you elaborate it further? Thanks.
: Do you mean the tax payer has to pay back the tax on the deduction coming
: from the property depreciation that had been claimed in the years when the
: property was a rental?
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i******e
发帖数: 1720 | 10 No, it's not misleading. Thank you for bringing this up.
I goggled a bit. It seems the accumulated depreciation is to be factored
into income in the year of sale (?). It's too complicated for me to read
further. I'll leave it to the professionals. :)
improvement
the
【在 l******c 的大作中提到】
: I'm not sure if it is misleading info, so I delete it.
: Think about it, rental property has 23.5 years to depreciate the improvement
: value, if during this time, convert it to primary residence, how about the
: deduct each year?
: google it on internet.
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l******c
发帖数: 2555 | 11 When it is sold, for sure, the depreciation is the income.
But when it converts to primary residence, that's complicated.
For example, right now, the property is $400,000, improvement is $235,000
one year depreciate is $10,000, after 5 years, accumulate is $50,000
but the housing market crash, the house value is $350,000, I don't think
this $50,000 is income.
So, the tricky part is when you convert rental into primary residence, you
can claim that your house "value" less.. , so, no income.....
Please point out if I'm wrong
【在 i******e 的大作中提到】
: No, it's not misleading. Thank you for bringing this up.
: I goggled a bit. It seems the accumulated depreciation is to be factored
: into income in the year of sale (?). It's too complicated for me to read
: further. I'll leave it to the professionals. :)
:
: improvement
: the
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p***e
发帖数: 1318 | 12 read pub 523. no need to confuse yourself with hearsay.
【在 p*****n 的大作中提到】
: 假如我有个投资房，三十万
: 那么在三十年之后房屋折旧为零
: 如果这时我把自住卖了，搬到投资房居住两年，假如这个房子涨到五十万，我把它卖掉
: 应该按多少钱交税呢
: 谢谢
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i******e
发帖数: 1720 | 13 I glanced thru the two links below but don't have the knowledge to fully
understand.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-06-23/classified/sns-20
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p527/ch02.html
BTW, is my account hacked -
My 昵称&性别 were changed and some伪币were“转给HERO之君子庐俱乐部”
Anyone experienced this? I don't want to open a thread for this. :( |
s*******f
发帖数: 2718 | 14 哎呀，这么简单的事。
你那年的税就是： （50万-0）*(30/32)*45%
如果不报折旧就是50万-30万，你每年都报了，每年已经省了税了所以要一次交清。
还有现在自住两年不交税09年就取消了。按整个期间出租自住比例交。
现在每年 long term capital gain tax rate 都涨，估计那时候没什么好处了，就是
按
income tax rate 走。但是一年收入那么多，50万呢，tax rate 至少42%吧，按新的劫
富济贫要多交 social security, medical 等等。。。 |
l******c
发帖数: 2555 | 15 not that simple.
first convert to primary residence, then refinance , cash out, then turn the
key to the bank, then bank auction, sold at $50,000, not $500,000
how to report the tax?
【在 s*******f 的大作中提到】
: 哎呀，这么简单的事。
: 你那年的税就是： （50万-0）*(30/32)*45%
: 如果不报折旧就是50万-30万，你每年都报了，每年已经省了税了所以要一次交清。
: 还有现在自住两年不交税09年就取消了。按整个期间出租自住比例交。
: 现在每年 long term capital gain tax rate 都涨，估计那时候没什么好处了，就是
: 按
: income tax rate 走。但是一年收入那么多，50万呢，tax rate 至少42%吧，按新的劫
: 富济贫要多交 social security, medical 等等。。。
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d**n
发帖数: 3172 | 16 达人太狠了，乘45%
【在 s*******f 的大作中提到】
: 哎呀，这么简单的事。
: 你那年的税就是： （50万-0）*(30/32)*45%
: 如果不报折旧就是50万-30万，你每年都报了，每年已经省了税了所以要一次交清。
: 还有现在自住两年不交税09年就取消了。按整个期间出租自住比例交。
: 现在每年 long term capital gain tax rate 都涨，估计那时候没什么好处了，就是
: 按
: income tax rate 走。但是一年收入那么多，50万呢，tax rate 至少42%吧，按新的劫
: 富济贫要多交 social security, medical 等等。。。
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p*****n
发帖数: 210 | 17 这么狠啊，干脆2万卖给孙子得了
【在 s*******f 的大作中提到】
: 哎呀，这么简单的事。
: 你那年的税就是： （50万-0）*(30/32)*45%
: 如果不报折旧就是50万-30万，你每年都报了，每年已经省了税了所以要一次交清。
: 还有现在自住两年不交税09年就取消了。按整个期间出租自住比例交。
: 现在每年 long term capital gain tax rate 都涨，估计那时候没什么好处了，就是
: 按
: income tax rate 走。但是一年收入那么多，50万呢，tax rate 至少42%吧，按新的劫
: 富济贫要多交 social security, medical 等等。。。
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z******a
发帖数: 5381 | 18 能这么卖么？ 求达人指教
【在 p*****n 的大作中提到】
: 这么狠啊，干脆2万卖给孙子得了
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b******y
发帖数: 1684 | 19 不能。否则遗产税赠与税都受不到了
【在 z******a 的大作中提到】
: 能这么卖么？ 求达人指教
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i******e
发帖数: 1720 | 20 Wow, I just read from somewhere else -
"
.....Even so, he still cannot avoid paying tax on the amount of depreciation
taken. However, if he has any carried passive losses accumulated, he may
be able to offset the income.
The only way for him to get out of this without paying income tax is to
die. If the value of this entire net estate is less than the estate tax
unified credit, then he escapes tax free.
"
【在 b******y 的大作中提到】
: 不能。否则遗产税赠与税都受不到了
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