S****e
发帖数: 931 | 1 Fact Sheet: Increasing Plutonium Storage and Usage at Livermore
Lab Endangers the Bay Area and Central Valley
The Department of Energy (DOE) plans to double the administrative limit for
plutonium to 3,080 pounds, which is the amount that
can be housed in Livermore Lab's plutonium building. DOE also plans to
double the amount that can be used in a process or room
from 44 to 88 pounds. These plans, announced in the final Site Wide
Environmental Impact Statement (SWEIS) on Livermore Lab
operations, would enable DOE to transport 1,540 pounds of additional
plutonium to the Lab. Workers will use this plutonium to
develop new manufacturing techniques for bomb cores (called pits), to
prototype new plutonium pits, to evaluate pits currently in the
arsenal and to support new plans to use plutonium in the National Ignition
Facility megalaser, a nuclear weapon design facility under
construction at the Lab. Pits are the generally softball-sized plutonium (
fission) spheres that sit inside modern nuclear weapons to
trigger thermonuclear explosions. The increase in plutonium activity at
Livermore Lab will support DOE's proposed factory, called
the Modern Pit Facility, being designed to produce hundreds of bomb cores
per year. Livermore Lab's plutonium use, storage,
transportation and waste disposal pose severe health and safety risks for
workers and the surrounding Livermore, San Francisco Bay
Area and Central Valley communities. Here are a few of the dangers we face:
HEALTH AND SAFETY: One microscopic particle of
plutonium, if inhaled, can cause lung cancer and numerous other
diseases. Weapons' grade plutonium has a radioactive half-life
of 24,000 years. Scientists often calculate a radioactive material's
hazardous life at ten half-lives. For plutonium, that is 240,000
years -- longer than human history. Much of the Lab's plutonium
is stored as oxides - fine shavings - that are easily dispersed in
the environment. Plutonium can enter the body through
inhalation, ingestion or an open wound. Growing children are
most at risk; plutonium is a "bone seeker," emitting radiation
from inside the body for years to come.
STORAGE: In certain forms and configurations, plutonium
is "pyrophoric," spontaneously igniting upon contact with
oxygen. If plutonium in larger amounts is packed too closely
together, or comes into contact accidentally, a "criticality" can
result in explosion and sudden release of radiation. An
examination of the Lab's recent history reveals systemic safety
deficiencies. In January 2005, the plutonium facility was placed
in "stand down" mode due to faulty gloveboxes, taped
ventilation ducts and other safety hazards. In March 2005, a
federal safety board cited the Lab for storing plutonium in paint
cans and food tins. In 1997, the plutonium facility was shut
down due to 25 criticality safety violations. Storage problems
are severe and chronic.
EARTHQUAKES: Livermore Lab sits near numerous faults,
including the Greenville and Los Positas faults. The Las Positas
fault zone is less than 200 feet from the site boundary. A 1980
quake on the Greenville fault cost the Lab millions in damages,
caused a radioactive tritium leak on site, and resulted in a ground
fissure opening up near the radioactive and toxic waste storage
areas. Storing plutonium in an aging facility near fault zones is
probably not a good idea. The final SWEIS for Livermore Lab
operations identified 108 buildings that need seismic upgrades.
TERRORISM / SABOTAGE: Experts have stated that
the plutonium within the Lab's crowded, 1.3 square mile site is
not secure and probably cannot be made secure from terrorist
attack or internal sabotage. A September 2005 DOE report said
that the complex suffered from a "low regard for security-set in
a deeply rooted culture of ingrained behavior, attitudes and
values." The Project on Government Oversight reviewed DOE
sites with special nuclear material and determined that the
plutonium at Livermore could not be adequately defended and
should be removed immediately. In light of these and other
reports, we are shocked by plans to double plutonium at the
Lab.
SURROUNDING POPULATIONS: While Livermore
was once mainly ranching, it is now a highly dense residential
city. Seven million people live within a fifty-mile radius of
Livermore Lab, and homes and apartment buildings are near
the gates. The plutonium facility is a mere 800 yards from the
nearest neighborhood. During a May 2004 hearing, a U.S.
Congressman said: "Considering the proximity of Livermore
to surrounding residential populations, shouldn't we remove and
consolidate these excess [plutonium] materials as soon as
possible?"
HUMAN ERROR: Incidents like Bhopal and Three Mile
Island remind us of the inevitability of human error. Although
the Lab has systems in place, when air monitors, alarms,
radiation sensors, worker training, packaging, or administrative
controls fail, releases can and do occur. In October 2003, twelve
workers were potentially exposed to airborne plutonium when
(1) a routine power outage occurred causing (2) fine particles
of plutonium to leak through a missing glovebox seal, and (3)
an alarm failed. The plutonium contamination was not
discovered for five days while workers continued to enter and
exit the room. In 1996, it was announced that the Lab could not
account for nearly 12 pounds of plutonium. Moreover, plutonium
has been found in Big Trees Park near the Lab at up to 1000
times the amount that can be attributed to global fallout.
OTHER PLANS: Plutonium is not the only health threat
from radiation at Livermore Lab. Large amounts of tritium
(radioactive hydrogen) have been released. In addition to the
plutonium, the Lab is planning to ramp up its activities with
tritium and acknowledges that the airborne releases will increase.
We CAN STOP THESE PLANS: Contact Tri-Valley
CAREs, 2582 Old First St., Livermore, CA 94551,
www.trivalleycares.org, for details | s**o
发帖数: 59 | 2 看了一些关于LLNL的报道， 感觉Livermore各种污染还很是个问题呢。 Tracy也是。
不过EPA
管不了DOE。 在Livermore买房子都要签waiver。 人家都想好了你以后不要来告我。
不过看看
EPA Superfund Site Livermore， 还有一些non-profit的advocate的网站统计， 感觉很
值得担心阿。 还有Pleasanton的Bernal area， 很显然被污染严重， 1994年居民vote
都不
允许那里开发， 现在还不是一样学校公园什么都有了。 cancer毕竟是个机会的事情。
人多了，
多几个有cancer的大家也不会意外就是了。。。
limit for
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: Fact Sheet: Increasing Plutonium Storage and Usage at Livermore
: Lab Endangers the Bay Area and Central Valley
: The Department of Energy (DOE) plans to double the administrative limit for
: plutonium to 3,080 pounds, which is the amount that
: can be housed in Livermore Lab's plutonium building. DOE also plans to
: double the amount that can be used in a process or room
: from 44 to 88 pounds. These plans, announced in the final Site Wide
: Environmental Impact Statement (SWEIS) on Livermore Lab
: operations, would enable DOE to transport 1,540 pounds of additional
: plutonium to the Lab. Workers will use this plutonium to
| d****n
发帖数: 2276 | 3 你这是吃果果的 黑 幸福屯啊
觉很
vote
【在 s**o 的大作中提到】
: 看了一些关于LLNL的报道， 感觉Livermore各种污染还很是个问题呢。 Tracy也是。
: 不过EPA
: 管不了DOE。 在Livermore买房子都要签waiver。 人家都想好了你以后不要来告我。
: 不过看看
: EPA Superfund Site Livermore， 还有一些non-profit的advocate的网站统计， 感觉很
: 值得担心阿。 还有Pleasanton的Bernal area， 很显然被污染严重， 1994年居民vote
: 都不
: 允许那里开发， 现在还不是一样学校公园什么都有了。 cancer毕竟是个机会的事情。
: 人多了，
: 多几个有cancer的大家也不会意外就是了。。。
| s**o
发帖数: 59 | 4 你说的是中文吗？ 我好像没看懂。。。
【在 d****n 的大作中提到】
: 你这是吃果果的 黑 幸福屯啊
:
: 觉很
: vote
| a******o
发帖数: 16625 | 5 只要空气和水没有被污染，应该是没事的。
70年代前美军的大气核试验那是杠杠的，中国也爆过钚弹，西北风把整个华北地区都刮
遍了。很多事情不知道也没事，知道了就会心烦。
觉很
vote
【在 s**o 的大作中提到】
: 看了一些关于LLNL的报道， 感觉Livermore各种污染还很是个问题呢。 Tracy也是。
: 不过EPA
: 管不了DOE。 在Livermore买房子都要签waiver。 人家都想好了你以后不要来告我。
: 不过看看
: EPA Superfund Site Livermore， 还有一些non-profit的advocate的网站统计， 感觉很
: 值得担心阿。 还有Pleasanton的Bernal area， 很显然被污染严重， 1994年居民vote
: 都不
: 允许那里开发， 现在还不是一样学校公园什么都有了。 cancer毕竟是个机会的事情。
: 人多了，
: 多几个有cancer的大家也不会意外就是了。。。
| s**o
发帖数: 59 | 6 问题说得就是水和土质污染阿。 空气没有具体提。 不过在周围park土壤里都检验到过
plutonium。
估计应该是空气传播的吧。 并且说radioactive的东西thousands of years还是会
active的
么。
DOE本来该开始2008投资150Million清理地下水污染， 原计划是2030年清理干净。 记
过这两年闹
budget cut, 人家也就不治理了。 不过市政府在违章， too big to be disciplined
啊。
【在 a******o 的大作中提到】
: 只要空气和水没有被污染，应该是没事的。
: 70年代前美军的大气核试验那是杠杠的，中国也爆过钚弹，西北风把整个华北地区都刮
: 遍了。很多事情不知道也没事，知道了就会心烦。
:
: 觉很
: vote
| d****n
发帖数: 2276 | 7 我是说, 你这么说, 谁还敢买幸福屯的房子啊.
什么样的cancer?
【在 s**o 的大作中提到】
: 你说的是中文吗？ 我好像没看懂。。。
| s**o
发帖数: 59 | 8 哦， 又读了两遍好像看懂了。 呵呵。 我是因为弟妹在LLNL工作所以有点替她担心。
她不住在
Livermore。 我自己离Livermore远着呢。
Quoted from EPA: (Don't want to believe it could be that bad, but hard
not to believe something is going on).
"The one-square-mile Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL) site
is an active multi-program research laboratory operated by Lawrence
Livermore National Security, LLC for the U.S. Department of Energy. A
number of research and support operations at LLNL handle, generate, or
manage hazardous materials that include radioactive wastes. Hazardous
waste treatment activities are carried out on site. The site first was
used as a Naval Air Station in the 1940s. In 1951, it was transferred to
the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission and was established as a nuclear
weapons and magnetic fusion energy research facility. In 1984, the
California Department of Health Services (CDHS) issued an Order for
Compliance to LLNL to provide alternative water supplies to residents
west of the facility, whose wells had been contaminated by hazardous
substances from LLNL. (Another separate and distinct NPL site, the
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (Site 300), is located 15 miles
east of LLNL and has its own web page.) There are approximately 50,000
people living within a 2-mile radius of the main Livermore site. It is
located about 45 miles east of San Francisco. Groundwater about 2 miles
west of the site in downtown Livermore is used as a municipal drinking
water source."
【在 d****n 的大作中提到】
: 你这是吃果果的 黑 幸福屯啊
:
: 觉很
: vote
| s**o
发帖数: 59 | 9 哪里是幸福屯？Pleasanton?
如果是我就不买啊。 我觉得看EPA的report， 从Tracy往西， 都别买了。 今年LLNL还
要加大他们
囤积的核材料，onsite, 新增加好多项目， 估计污染更严重了？
California State Department of Health统计检查结果是， 某种skin cancer, 和
brain
cancer机会增加吧。 好像是几率上升到每1000人， 一个cancer。
http://lpc1.clpccd.cc.ca.us/lpc/express/Newshome/11-14/radiatio
【在 d****n 的大作中提到】
: 我是说, 你这么说, 谁还敢买幸福屯的房子啊.
: 什么样的cancer?
| s**o
发帖数: 59 | 10 恩，越差东西越多：
http://www.rense.com/general75/hyd.htm
不过这种东西， 国家也只能quiet about it. 总不能兴师动众的把LLNL搬到沙漠里，
估计那样也没人去工作了。 好像看说今年LLNL budget 7.6多billion, 其中85%是用
来研究核武器和核实验。 只有2%用于清理环境和污染。 重点可显而知阿。 | | | s**********n
发帖数: 2343 | 11 The Bernal area posed the greatest problem. For more than thirty years, a "
laundry" in
downtown Pleasanton (on Ray and First Street) washed the nuclear clothing
from the LLNL,
the GE Vallecitos nuclear plant, and others. After the waste from the
laundry was diluted, it
was transported to the Sunol Avenue sewage treatment plant. The waste then
settled into
sludge and eventually ended up in areas of Bernal property, a 510-acre
parcel of land
hugging Highway 680 near the Pleasanton fairgrounds. The laundry was shut
down in
1994. However, radioactive waste lives on for thousands of years.
http://lpc1.clpccd.cc.ca.us/lpc/express/Newshome/11-14/radiatio
for
【在 S****e 的大作中提到】
: Fact Sheet: Increasing Plutonium Storage and Usage at Livermore
: Lab Endangers the Bay Area and Central Valley
: The Department of Energy (DOE) plans to double the administrative limit for
: plutonium to 3,080 pounds, which is the amount that
: can be housed in Livermore Lab's plutonium building. DOE also plans to
: double the amount that can be used in a process or room
: from 44 to 88 pounds. These plans, announced in the final Site Wide
: Environmental Impact Statement (SWEIS) on Livermore Lab
: operations, would enable DOE to transport 1,540 pounds of additional
: plutonium to the Lab. Workers will use this plutonium to
| s**o
发帖数: 59 | 12 yeah, and I wonder where they wash their nuclear clothing now after the
laundry was shut down.
years, a "
clothing
then
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】
: The Bernal area posed the greatest problem. For more than thirty years, a "
: laundry" in
: downtown Pleasanton (on Ray and First Street) washed the nuclear clothing
: from the LLNL,
: the GE Vallecitos nuclear plant, and others. After the waste from the
: laundry was diluted, it
: was transported to the Sunol Avenue sewage treatment plant. The waste then
: settled into
: sludge and eventually ended up in areas of Bernal property, a 510-acre
: parcel of land
| s**********n
发帖数: 2343 | 13 In 1999, an issue was raised of possible contamination of a portion of the
Western Area by
radionuclides during the period when the Western Area was used in part for
evaporation
ponds and a sludge drying bed associated with the former Pleasanton
Wastewater
Treatment Plan (PWTP). Such contamination could theoretically have occurred
as a
consequence of discharge of wastewater that might have subject to
contamination with
substances originating from the Lawrence Livermore Laboratory, through the
laundering of
uniforms of employees.
This issue was reviewed by City staff and referred to the California
Department of Health
Services (DOHS) for consideration, together with background studies and
analyses
documents prepared by specialists in the field of health physics would had
been retained
by the
San Francisco PUC, the owner of the Bernal Property in 1999. In a letter
dated September
20, 1999, DOHS concluded that, based on the sampling that had been done, “
it appears
that there is no immediate health hazard from radionuclides on the Bernal
property.”
21
18
California Department of Toxic Substances Control, Site Cleanup-Site
Mitigation and
Brownfields Reuse
Program Database (Calsites), Profile Report ID 01280050-Applied Biosystems (
formerly
Kaiser), reviewed on
19 October 2005 at http://www.dtsc.ca.gov/database/Calsites.
19
City of Pleasanton, Planning Commission Staff Report, Subject PAP-74 (
Appeal of Case
PDR-427), February
9, 2005.
20
City of Pleasanton, Planning Commission Minutes, February 9, 2005.
21
California Department of Health Services, communication to Mee Ling Tung,
Director,
Environmental
Health Services, Alameda County, from Tracy Barreau, Research Specialist,
and Marilyn C.
Underwood,
Ph.D., Staff Toxicologist, September 20, 1999, p. 1. Draft Environmental
Impact Report
Bernal Property Phase II Specific Plan
80
The studies were not found by the DOHS to be definitive. Therefore, the
Conditions of
Approval of Bernal Property Phase I development (Condition 38.(e))
required the property
owner to undertake a process of expert studies and review by responsible
health services
agencies to assess whether site conditions posed a potential threat to
public health and
safety. If so, a remediation plan was to be prepared under the supervision
of the Alameda
County Health Services Department, including a radiological study of the
site undertaken in
consultation with the Radiologic Health Branch of DOHS. The same condition
would be
applicable to the Phase II Specific Plan.
http://www.ci.pleasanton.ca.us/pdf/bernalEIR2.pdf
【在 s**o 的大作中提到】
: yeah, and I wonder where they wash their nuclear clothing now after the
: laundry was shut down.
:
: years, a "
: clothing
: then
| l******n
发帖数: 390 | 14 我靠，刚她妈的痛下决心要买East Dublin的房子，这这这...不是让我别扭吗。
East Dublin离那实验室只有7到8个miles左右，没想到那个实验室搞核的，让人疙応！！！没事到没事，有事那就是人命关天的大事。
【在 s**o 的大作中提到】
: 哪里是幸福屯？Pleasanton?
: 如果是我就不买啊。 我觉得看EPA的report， 从Tracy往西， 都别买了。 今年LLNL还
: 要加大他们
: 囤积的核材料，onsite, 新增加好多项目， 估计污染更严重了？
: California State Department of Health统计检查结果是， 某种skin cancer, 和
: brain
: cancer机会增加吧。 好像是几率上升到每1000人， 一个cancer。
: http://lpc1.clpccd.cc.ca.us/lpc/express/Newshome/11-14/radiatio
| s**********n
发帖数: 2343 | 15 现在是运到新墨西哥WIPP 或者 爱达活 INL, 说明这些脏衣服还是相当危险。
http://www.energy.ca.gov/nuclear/shipments.html
The waste being transported and disposed of at WIPP is called "transuranic
waste." This
type of waste has been generated from nuclear weapons production, research
and
development since the 1940s at federal facilities. The wastes consist of
such items as
laboratory clothing, tools, glove boxes, rubber gloves, glassware and air
filters and are
contaminated with small amounts of radioactive materials such as plutonium
and
americium, and small amounts of hazardous chemicals.
Most of the waste planned for transport in California is "contact-handled"
waste, which
means the radiation it emits is not very penetrating and does not require
lead or other
types of heavy shielding to protect workers or the public. These containers
can be handled
with minimum protective gear. However, the majority of shipments from GEV
will be
"remote-handled" waste which means the radiation emitted from the waste is
very
penetrating and therefore requires heavy shielding.
Inhalation and ingestion are the primary radiation hazards posed by this
waste. Even in
very small quantities, certain transuranic materials, such as plutonium, can
deliver
significant internal radiation doses if taken into the body.
Most of the transuranic waste in California is generated at LLNL. Initially,
until the spring of
1990, the LLNL waste was trucked to NTS for storage. However, since then,
transuranic
waste generated at LLNL is stored onsite until it can be transported to WIPP
or INL.
【在 s**o 的大作中提到】
: yeah, and I wonder where they wash their nuclear clothing now after the
: laundry was shut down.
:
: years, a "
: clothing
: then
| S**********r
发帖数: 1410 | 16 i guess people were looking at Pleasontan/Dublin area will start to consider
Evergreen instead.
！！！没事到没事，有事那就是人命关天的大事。
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】
: 我靠，刚她妈的痛下决心要买East Dublin的房子，这这这...不是让我别扭吗。
: East Dublin离那实验室只有7到8个miles左右，没想到那个实验室搞核的，让人疙応！！！没事到没事，有事那就是人命关天的大事。
| S**********r
发帖数: 1410 | 17 i guess people were looking at Pleasontan/Dublin area will start to consider
Evergreen instead.
！！！没事到没事，有事那就是人命关天的大事。
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】
: 我靠，刚她妈的痛下决心要买East Dublin的房子，这这这...不是让我别扭吗。
: East Dublin离那实验室只有7到8个miles左右，没想到那个实验室搞核的，让人疙応！！！没事到没事，有事那就是人命关天的大事。
| l******n
发帖数: 390 | 18 应该有胆大的；印人社区不知是否知道此事？这事要是广泛传开，那几个地的房事应该
会有不小影响，尤其这里又是地震频发地带，不过还好没海啸。
consider
【在 S**********r 的大作中提到】
: i guess people were looking at Pleasontan/Dublin area will start to consider
: Evergreen instead.
:
: ！！！没事到没事，有事那就是人命关天的大事。
| s**********n
发帖数: 2343 | 19 如果发生核灾难， 就livermore 离 evergreen 这三十英里的距离和中间这几座小山包
能顶什么用？
consider
【在 S**********r 的大作中提到】
: i guess people were looking at Pleasontan/Dublin area will start to consider
: Evergreen instead.
:
: ！！！没事到没事，有事那就是人命关天的大事。
| l******n
发帖数: 390 | 20 阁下住Dublin/Pleasanton一带？
大灾难应该区别不大；但地下水被慢性污染这类的灾难还是会有很大区别。
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】
: 如果发生核灾难， 就livermore 离 evergreen 这三十英里的距离和中间这几座小山包
: 能顶什么用？
:
: consider
| | | s**o
发帖数: 59 | 21 agree 地下水污染很难治理， 还何况他们根本就在拖延压根也没开始治理。 说道发展
核武器， 都是
把别的国家看的紧， 自己国家发展对环境和居民有哪些影响就睁一眼闭一眼了。
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】
: 阁下住Dublin/Pleasanton一带？
: 大灾难应该区别不大；但地下水被慢性污染这类的灾难还是会有很大区别。
| s**********n
发帖数: 2343 | 22 大家讨论LLNL , 阁下的evergreen就不用拿出来现了。
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】
: 阁下住Dublin/Pleasanton一带？
: 大灾难应该区别不大；但地下水被慢性污染这类的灾难还是会有很大区别。
| l******n
发帖数: 390 | 23 没住Evergreen，我在Sunnyvale租房住，正准备到Dublin买房，但听说这Lab的事有点
犹豫。
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】
: 大家讨论LLNL , 阁下的evergreen就不用拿出来现了。
| s**o
发帖数: 59 | 24 是值得慎重考虑的。 现在想想弟妹在lab工作， 期间生了两个小宝宝。 虽然最近几年
她每周只在lab
工作2-3天， 不过前几年都是天天在的。 我不敢跟她说， 万一她没想那么多， 生都
生了2个了。
也就这样了。 不过在网上看了看， 有人专门记录lab工作人员后来得cancer的，
passed away和
活着跟cancer斗争的。 我觉得看着挺揪心的。
另外，这个lab, 虽然打着旗号有很多其他科研， 可是基本上85%（至少funding上的分
配）都是
nuclear weapon的项目。 想想估计其他课题只是这人眼目而已吧。 另外这个lab很
大一部分是由
UC Berkeley支撑和掌控的， 估计也不可能搬家。 要继续有学者和科研人员在那里才
好。 所以也
一部分上说明了为什么这个lab有那么好的benefit和很competitive的工资。
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】
: 没住Evergreen，我在Sunnyvale租房住，正准备到Dublin买房，但听说这Lab的事有点
: 犹豫。
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