p******d
发帖数: 100 | 1 http://thenorthface.inticketing.com/events/154549
顺便推荐一下关于他的电影 Ultramarathon Man
另一部很励志的电影 Run The Sahara http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HidKMFClQUU by Matt Damon
I found both DVDs in my local library. Also the latest book by Dean
Karnazes: Run! |
f*******d
发帖数: 12693 | 2 呵呵，开个玩笑。你膜拜Dean还不如去拜LT100，人家第一次Leadville坚持下来了，
Dean跑一半逃跑了。
【在 p******d 的大作中提到】
: http://thenorthface.inticketing.com/events/154549
: 顺便推荐一下关于他的电影 Ultramarathon Man
: 另一部很励志的电影 Run The Sahara http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HidKMFClQUU by Matt Damon
: I found both DVDs in my local library. Also the latest book by Dean
: Karnazes: Run!
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p******d
发帖数: 100 | 3 我超佩服LT100和Serendipity大牛的。平时的小比赛都很少看到中国人的，他俩真太强
大了。
呵呵，对Dean也算不上膜拜。 He says he's an introvert learning to open up and
he's motivated by inspiring others to find their better selves. I can
very much relate to that. And the movies and books inspired my LG to start
running. We just ran a 10k together and and I'm happy for his new passion.
So seeing Dean would be nice to us personally. |
p***r
发帖数: 4859 | 4 嘿嘿，Dean最厉害比赛还是赢了 Badwater
【在 f*******d 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，开个玩笑。你膜拜Dean还不如去拜LT100，人家第一次Leadville坚持下来了，
: Dean跑一半逃跑了。
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L***0
发帖数: 1283 | 5 Dean suffered from brain swelling due to altitude reaction - apparently he
finished with a decent time in his third try, sub 24 I believe. Shit happens
in utlras, no big deal. In fact I was only epsilon away from DNF.
【在 f*******d 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，开个玩笑。你膜拜Dean还不如去拜LT100，人家第一次Leadville坚持下来了，
: Dean跑一半逃跑了。
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 6 Hope no serious shit happens in my first try.....
happens
【在 L***0 的大作中提到】
: Dean suffered from brain swelling due to altitude reaction - apparently he
: finished with a decent time in his third try, sub 24 I believe. Shit happens
: in utlras, no big deal. In fact I was only epsilon away from DNF.
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 7 he won Badwater? that's something huge..
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】
: 嘿嘿，Dean最厉害比赛还是赢了 Badwater
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d*********6
发帖数: 6115 | 8 虽然我没跑过100mile，但是我觉得你得有针对性地练一练。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: Hope no serious shit happens in my first try.....
:
: happens
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 9 嗯， 昨天晚上在网上研究了一下， 我前阵子的mileage基本够了，
芝马完了休息一周， 再准备4周， 主要是练热天跑和晚上跑， 再
就是刚吃完东西就跑。。。。
【在 d*********6 的大作中提到】
: 虽然我没跑过100mile，但是我觉得你得有针对性地练一练。
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L***0
发帖数: 1283 | 10 The biggest risk for you, since you have no ultra experience, is that your
joints could swell and when that happens there is not much you can do. I
would say that the most important aspect you need to prepare for right now
is the mental one. The mindset is very important in an ultra. Chances are
some shit is going to happen. Just do not think about quitting. If you can
make one more step, it means that you are still doing fine.
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 嗯， 昨天晚上在网上研究了一下， 我前阵子的mileage基本够了，
: 芝马完了休息一周， 再准备4周， 主要是练热天跑和晚上跑， 再
: 就是刚吃完东西就跑。。。。
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 11 嗯， 我昨天有看到这个， 说后50迈就是mental game. shit 肯定
会happen, 不要去想， 克服过去就好了， 俺准备多弄些Till I collapse
之类的MP3带上 :D
再就是多带些冰袋， ICEHOT， 泰诺。。。。爬也爬下来。。。
【在 L***0 的大作中提到】
: The biggest risk for you, since you have no ultra experience, is that your
: joints could swell and when that happens there is not much you can do. I
: would say that the most important aspect you need to prepare for right now
: is the mental one. The mindset is very important in an ultra. Chances are
: some shit is going to happen. Just do not think about quitting. If you can
: make one more step, it means that you are still doing fine.
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L***0
发帖数: 1283 | 12 You goal for the first 50 miles should be to minimize the impact of running
on your body. Keep this in mind: if you don't feel (relatively) good at mile
50, your chance of finishing would be slim. Just stay relaxed and easy -
the difficult part is in the last 20 miles.
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 嗯， 我昨天有看到这个， 说后50迈就是mental game. shit 肯定
: 会happen, 不要去想， 克服过去就好了， 俺准备多弄些Till I collapse
: 之类的MP3带上 :D
: 再就是多带些冰袋， ICEHOT， 泰诺。。。。爬也爬下来。。。
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 13 嗯，我再好好读读你和serendip的报告。。。
这个是elevation图， 6圈半， 我准备上坡的时候走， 下坡再跑，
每圈(15迈）用3.5-4小时， 如果没有意外就冲24， 有意外就慢慢
走好了。。。。
running
mile
【在 L***0 的大作中提到】
: You goal for the first 50 miles should be to minimize the impact of running
: on your body. Keep this in mind: if you don't feel (relatively) good at mile
: 50, your chance of finishing would be slim. Just stay relaxed and easy -
: the difficult part is in the last 20 miles.
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v****a
发帖数: 389 | 14 非常有同感。即使前50迈觉得很轻松，一点事没有，后面还是可能很艰难。反正前50迈
就当是郊游，吃饱喝足多散步。有体力可以很牛地来一个negative split 。
你针对100迈的训练时间只有2周。上太大运动量一定要慎重，千万别受伤了。
running
mile
【在 L***0 的大作中提到】
: You goal for the first 50 miles should be to minimize the impact of running
: on your body. Keep this in mind: if you don't feel (relatively) good at mile
: 50, your chance of finishing would be slim. Just stay relaxed and easy -
: the difficult part is in the last 20 miles.
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L***0
发帖数: 1283 | 15 My biggest lesson from Leadville is this: no matter HOW good you feel in the
first 50, or even 60 miles, don't push. Save everything for the last 20
miles (and you might find that you have just enough left).
Also, in the ultra, uphills only slows you down, downhills are what takes
you out. Be very careful on the downhills.
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，我再好好读读你和serendip的报告。。。
: 这个是elevation图， 6圈半， 我准备上坡的时候走， 下坡再跑，
: 每圈(15迈）用3.5-4小时， 如果没有意外就冲24， 有意外就慢慢
: 走好了。。。。
:
: running
: mile
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 16 多谢瓦哥指点， 我计划已经定好了， 最后4周的mileage
80：- 5 15 - - 30 30
50: - 5 15 - - 15 15
20: - 5 - 5 - 10 -
10: 5 5 - - - - 100
基本就是强化一周就开始taper了。。。。
【在 v****a 的大作中提到】
: 非常有同感。即使前50迈觉得很轻松，一点事没有，后面还是可能很艰难。反正前50迈
: 就当是郊游，吃饱喝足多散步。有体力可以很牛地来一个negative split 。
: 你针对100迈的训练时间只有2周。上太大运动量一定要慎重，千万别受伤了。
:
: running
: mile
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 17 嗯， 我研究了一下去年24小时左右完成的人每圈完成的时间，
基本尽量保持匀速吧， 当然慢慢会越来越慢。。。
下坡肯定也不会狂奔的， 就是jogging...
这个跑loop好点就是至少不用找路， 每5迈还能补给一下。。。
the
【在 L***0 的大作中提到】
: My biggest lesson from Leadville is this: no matter HOW good you feel in the
: first 50, or even 60 miles, don't push. Save everything for the last 20
: miles (and you might find that you have just enough left).
: Also, in the ultra, uphills only slows you down, downhills are what takes
: you out. Be very careful on the downhills.
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L***0
发帖数: 1283 | 18 Dean did win badwater, though his winning time was one hour slower than
Michael Wardian's time this year which placed 3rd. So I would say Dean had a
bit of luck - but of course winning badwater any year is badass.
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: he won Badwater? that's something huge..
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p***r
发帖数: 4859 | 19 Michael和Dean相比真是一个比赛狂。
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ouc_k310ulk
a
【在 L***0 的大作中提到】
: Dean did win badwater, though his winning time was one hour slower than
: Michael Wardian's time this year which placed 3rd. So I would say Dean had a
: bit of luck - but of course winning badwater any year is badass.
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o*******r
发帖数: 4921 | 20 所以这次爽死了，同时弄到了跟他们俩的合影，还有dean的签字。
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】
: Michael和Dean相比真是一个比赛狂。
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ouc_k310ulk
:
: a
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n**d
发帖数: 164 | 21 difference between Dean and Michael, or other elite ultrarunner is that Dean
knows how to market himself.
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】
: Michael和Dean相比真是一个比赛狂。
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ouc_k310ulk
:
: a
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o*******r
发帖数: 4921 | 22 嗯，麦克同学就是打手级别的。dean是老大级的。所以会写书才是王道啊。不会写的话
，找人代笔都好啊。
Dean
【在 n**d 的大作中提到】
: difference between Dean and Michael, or other elite ultrarunner is that Dean
: knows how to market himself.
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w*****3
发帖数: 1582 | 23 问个关于超马营养的问题，是不是跟全马比，超马主要是通过脂肪而不是糖原来提供能
量，所以准备的时候是不是应该相应的提高脂肪的储备，还有训练对脂肪能量的应用，
比方说空腹跑步？ |
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 24 人体的脂肪据说至少能提供100小时的能量， 不管你体脂多低。。。
Ultra主要是要训练跑步过程中吸收食物的能力， 如果糖原耗尽的话，
再有脂肪也没办法提供能量， 这就是撞墙的原因， 所以不是要练
空腹跑步， 而是要练饱腹跑步， 或者说边跑边吃的能力。。。
【在 w*****3 的大作中提到】
: 问个关于超马营养的问题，是不是跟全马比，超马主要是通过脂肪而不是糖原来提供能
: 量，所以准备的时候是不是应该相应的提高脂肪的储备，还有训练对脂肪能量的应用，
: 比方说空腹跑步？
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 25 en, finishing Badwater is already a huge accomplishment for
most people, not to mention win it...
a
【在 L***0 的大作中提到】
: Dean did win badwater, though his winning time was one hour slower than
: Michael Wardian's time this year which placed 3rd. So I would say Dean had a
: bit of luck - but of course winning badwater any year is badass.
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L***0
发帖数: 1283 | 26 正解。Ultra legend Yiannis Kouros就以能在跑步过程中吃掉大量calories著称。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 人体的脂肪据说至少能提供100小时的能量， 不管你体脂多低。。。
: Ultra主要是要训练跑步过程中吸收食物的能力， 如果糖原耗尽的话，
: 再有脂肪也没办法提供能量， 这就是撞墙的原因， 所以不是要练
: 空腹跑步， 而是要练饱腹跑步， 或者说边跑边吃的能力。。。
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p********y
发帖数: 5141 | 27 变叔这个可以向Dean学习一下，一边跑一边叫一下pizza delivery。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 人体的脂肪据说至少能提供100小时的能量， 不管你体脂多低。。。
: Ultra主要是要训练跑步过程中吸收食物的能力， 如果糖原耗尽的话，
: 再有脂肪也没办法提供能量， 这就是撞墙的原因， 所以不是要练
: 空腹跑步， 而是要练饱腹跑步， 或者说边跑边吃的能力。。。
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