g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 1 Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.) joined the growing crowd of Democrats endorsing
gay marriage Tuesday, announcing his support on his Facebook page.
Montanans believe in the right to make a good life for their families.
How they define a family should be their business and their business alone.
I'm proud to support marriage equality because no one should be able to tell
a Montanan or any American who they can love and who they can marry. - JT
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1057048/thumbs/r-JON-TESTER-GAY-MARRIAGE-large570.jpg?6 |
g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 2 Mark Begich
Sen. Mark Begich (D-Alaska) has released a statement fully endorsing same-
sex marriage.
Sen. Mark Begich (D-Alaska) has said little publicly about his views on
marriage equality. Until now.
On Monday night, the senator released a statement to Buzzfeed fully
endorsing same-sex marriage:
"I believe that same sex couples should be able to marry and should have the
same rights, privileges and responsibilities as any other married couple,"
Begich stated.
"Government should keep out of individuals' personal lives -- if someone
wants to marry someone they love, they should be able to. Alaskans are fed
up with government intrusion into our private lives, our daily business, and
in the way we manage our resources and economy."
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1055657/thumbs/s-MARK-BEGICH-large.jpg?6 |
g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 3 Mark Warner (D-Va.) Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) and Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.)
all announced that they were supportive of same-sex marriage rights. |
D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 4 成时髦了.
显然对自己的政治前途比较在乎的,都比较害怕自己不小心站到历史错误的一边.这不,
连狐狸台都有评论员(倒不是主持人)都放出话来说到下次总统大选,marriage equality
都不会成为议题,到时民共二党都会在"same page"了. 主持人竟然没有反驳! |
m******1
发帖数: 19713 | |
D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 6 Focus on the bright side of the subject.
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】
: 都跑出来搭顺风车了，什么玩艺儿
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m******1
发帖数: 19713 | 7 我知道啊，我就是cynical一下嘛。。
前几天Hillary公开支持同婚的时候，我想cynical来着，想了想又咽回去了。。
【在 D**S 的大作中提到】
: Focus on the bright side of the subject.
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D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 8 LOL
I was not impressed by Hilary Clinton's confirmed support of same sex
marriage.
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】
: 我知道啊，我就是cynical一下嘛。。
: 前几天Hillary公开支持同婚的时候，我想cynical来着，想了想又咽回去了。。
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m******1
发帖数: 19713 | 9 就是啊，居然比好多republican表态还晚，shame on her!
【在 D**S 的大作中提到】
: LOL
: I was not impressed by Hilary Clinton's confirmed support of same sex
: marriage.
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g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 10 不能这么说，很多人像HILLARY一样本来就支持平等权益，就差MARRIAGE这个名了，不
算搭顺风车.HILLARY更是做了很多实事。
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】
: 都跑出来搭顺风车了，什么玩艺儿
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D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 11 My feeling was that she did herself such a gross injustice by not having
sounded her support sooner. She had been so vocal about many equality issues
that I almost took it for granted that she already claimed same sex
marriage support long time ago!
【在 g********d 的大作中提到】
: 不能这么说，很多人像HILLARY一样本来就支持平等权益，就差MARRIAGE这个名了，不
: 算搭顺风车.HILLARY更是做了很多实事。
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g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 12 I understand that she had to be in line with Obama.
issues
【在 D**S 的大作中提到】
: My feeling was that she did herself such a gross injustice by not having
: sounded her support sooner. She had been so vocal about many equality issues
: that I almost took it for granted that she already claimed same sex
: marriage support long time ago!
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D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 13 I guess so, too.
Poor ex-SOS!
Walking the walk without getting credit.
【在 g********d 的大作中提到】
: I understand that she had to be in line with Obama.
:
: issues
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g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 14 consequence of being a loser.
【在 D**S 的大作中提到】
: I guess so, too.
: Poor ex-SOS!
: Walking the walk without getting credit.
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D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 15 No matter what, 2016 seems bound to be a much less interesting election year.
【在 g********d 的大作中提到】
: consequence of being a loser.
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g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 16 True from a gay point of view.
But a female president would be historical.
year.
【在 D**S 的大作中提到】
: No matter what, 2016 seems bound to be a much less interesting election year.
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D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 17 Obviously.
I implied the then subjects of presidential debates, etc, not the
presidential candidates themselves.
【在 g********d 的大作中提到】
: True from a gay point of view.
: But a female president would be historical.
:
: year.
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g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 18 Sen. Kay Hagan (D-N.C.) became the latest Democratic senator to endorse gay
marriage, announcing her switch Wednesday as the Supreme Court hears the
first oral arguments for the constitutionality of the Defense of Marriage
Act.
"I know there are strong feelings on both sides, and I have a great deal of
respect for their opinions," Hagan told the News & Observer. "But after much
thought and prayer on my part this is where I am today."
"After conversations I’ve had with family members, with people I go to
church with and with North Carolinians from all walks of life, I’ve come to
my own personal conclusion that we should not tell people who they can love
, or who they can marry," she added. "It’s time to move forward with this
issue." |
g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 19 Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) Is 'Evolving' On Marriage Equality
"I think you are seeing a change in attitude, change in tolerance, I guess,"
said Murkowski. "And an acceptance that what marriage should truly be about
is a lasting, loving, committed relationship with respect to the individual
… It may be that Alaska will come to revisit its position on gay marriage,
and as a policymaker I am certainly reviewing that very closely." |
g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 20 GOP Congressman, Does Not Support Gay Marriage Despite Having Gay Son
Rep. Matt Salmon (R-Ariz.) said Sunday that he did not support gay marriage
despite having a gay son, drawing a sharp contrast to another elected
Republican, Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio, who came out for gay marriage after
his son came out to him.
"I don't support gay marriage," Salmon told Phoenix station KTVK in an
interview that aired Sunday. "My son and I have had a lot of dialogue about
it. I will say this: you know, my son is by far one of the most important
people in my life. I love him more than I can say."
Salmon said he didn't believe his son chose to be gay. A host then asked why
he should be denied the right to marry if he didn't choose to be gay.
"My view is while I don't believe we should be vitriolic and try to enact
harmful policies, by the same token, I'm just not there as far as believing
in my heart that we should change 2,000 years of social policy in favor of a
redefinition of the family," he responded.
"It just means that I haven't evolved to that station," he continued. "Rob
Portman apparently has. I haven't."
Another Arizona Mormon, Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) said Sunday that he
thought it was "inevitable" that a Republican presidential candidate would
back gay marriage.
The Phoenix New Times reported in 2010 that Salmon's son, also named Matt,
was in a relationship with and shared a home with Kent Flake, the senator's
second cousin. |
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g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 21 再保守的人都有同性恋亲戚，所以同性婚姻势不可挡。不用担心中国，人性是一样的。 |
D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 22 I really wish this was a April 1st joke.
marriage
about
why
【在 g********d 的大作中提到】
: GOP Congressman, Does Not Support Gay Marriage Despite Having Gay Son
: Rep. Matt Salmon (R-Ariz.) said Sunday that he did not support gay marriage
: despite having a gay son, drawing a sharp contrast to another elected
: Republican, Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio, who came out for gay marriage after
: his son came out to him.
: "I don't support gay marriage," Salmon told Phoenix station KTVK in an
: interview that aired Sunday. "My son and I have had a lot of dialogue about
: it. I will say this: you know, my son is by far one of the most important
: people in my life. I love him more than I can say."
: Salmon said he didn't believe his son chose to be gay. A host then asked why
|
m******1
发帖数: 19713 | 23 兽父啊..
【在 D**S 的大作中提到】
: I really wish this was a April 1st joke.
:
: marriage
: about
: why
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m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 24 "It just means that I haven't evolved to that station," he continued. "Rob
Portman apparently has. I haven't."
我觉得这话说得很合理啊. 社会道德观的改变是需要过程的.
这个过程包括成年人原有道德观的进化, 以及下一代与上一代
之间道德观的差别.
作为一个持有旧道德观的人, 自己孩子的立场未必能使他立刻改变,
这个也是人之常情.
marriage
about
why
【在 g********d 的大作中提到】
: GOP Congressman, Does Not Support Gay Marriage Despite Having Gay Son
: Rep. Matt Salmon (R-Ariz.) said Sunday that he did not support gay marriage
: despite having a gay son, drawing a sharp contrast to another elected
: Republican, Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio, who came out for gay marriage after
: his son came out to him.
: "I don't support gay marriage," Salmon told Phoenix station KTVK in an
: interview that aired Sunday. "My son and I have had a lot of dialogue about
: it. I will say this: you know, my son is by far one of the most important
: people in my life. I love him more than I can say."
: Salmon said he didn't believe his son chose to be gay. A host then asked why
|
g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 25 同意。我看到的也是有半杯水了。
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】
: "It just means that I haven't evolved to that station," he continued. "Rob
: Portman apparently has. I haven't."
: 我觉得这话说得很合理啊. 社会道德观的改变是需要过程的.
: 这个过程包括成年人原有道德观的进化, 以及下一代与上一代
: 之间道德观的差别.
: 作为一个持有旧道德观的人, 自己孩子的立场未必能使他立刻改变,
: 这个也是人之常情.
:
: marriage
: about
|
g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 26 Finally, Bob Casey Backs Gay Marriage
Sen. Bob Casey (D-Pa.) announced his support for gay marriage Monday, at
last joining the growing number of Democrats to embrace marriage equality
over the last week.
"After much deliberation and after reviewing the legal, public policy and
civil-rights questions presented, I support marriage equality for same-sex
couples and believe that DOMA should be repealed," Casey said in an
exclusive statement to the Philadelphia Gay News.
"I began to focus on the issue of same-sex marriage much more intensely than
I had before,” he added, reflecting on the Supreme Court's consideration
of landmark gay marriage cases on California's Proposition 8 and the federal
Defense of Marriage Act.
Casey previously backed civil unions but stopped short of backing gay
marriage or even the repeal of DOMA. His office told The Huffington Post
twice last week the senator was "closely following the debate around DOMA."
A coalition of progressive groups in Pennsylvania intensified the pressure
on Casey by targeting his refusal to come around at a time when Democrats
from far more conservative states were flipping on the issue. The Huffington
Post reported on the groups' campaign, which advocates said stemmed from
the senator's appearance on numerous lists identifying the few Democratic
holdouts on gay marriage in the Senate.
Casey said the feedback from LGBT Pennsylvanians and their families gave him
the final push he needed.
"These stories had a substantial impact on my position on this issue," he
told PGN. "If two people of the same sex fall in love and want to marry, why
would our government stand in their way? At a time when many Americans
lament a lack of commitment in our society between married men and women,
why would we want less commitment and fewer strong marriages? If two people
of the same sex want to raise children, why would our government prevent
them from doing so, especially when so many children have only one parent or
none at all?"
Casey was comfortably reelected to a second six-year term in the 2012
election. Although gay marriage doesn't enjoy overwhelming support in
Pennsylvania, more residents are in favor of it (47 percent) than are
opposed (43 percent), according to recent polling. |
D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 27 Then one might wonder why he made his position public? He can continue to
evolve on his own unless he is ready to go public. Maybe he was asked about
his stance recently?
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】
: "It just means that I haven't evolved to that station," he continued. "Rob
: Portman apparently has. I haven't."
: 我觉得这话说得很合理啊. 社会道德观的改变是需要过程的.
: 这个过程包括成年人原有道德观的进化, 以及下一代与上一代
: 之间道德观的差别.
: 作为一个持有旧道德观的人, 自己孩子的立场未必能使他立刻改变,
: 这个也是人之常情.
:
: marriage
: about
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D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 28 Many teenaged gays and lesbians are kicked out of their family by their
parents each year. Many of these poor kids end up on the street while their
parents do not give a damn. These are all barbaric "parents" that should be
stripped of the right to be parents.
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】
: 兽父啊..
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m**n
发帖数: 9010 | 29 我不对该议员做整体评价 - 因为不了解.
我只是说他那句话很合乎我的观点.
about
【在 D**S 的大作中提到】
: Then one might wonder why he made his position public? He can continue to
: evolve on his own unless he is ready to go public. Maybe he was asked about
: his stance recently?
|
K*****y
发帖数: 312 | 30 对于一个去年刚刚连任的参议员来说，这根本不需要勇气， 真正勇敢的是那些面临着
连任竞选的红州参议员们
than
【在 g********d 的大作中提到】
: Finally, Bob Casey Backs Gay Marriage
: Sen. Bob Casey (D-Pa.) announced his support for gay marriage Monday, at
: last joining the growing number of Democrats to embrace marriage equality
: over the last week.
: "After much deliberation and after reviewing the legal, public policy and
: civil-rights questions presented, I support marriage equality for same-sex
: couples and believe that DOMA should be repealed," Casey said in an
: exclusive statement to the Philadelphia Gay News.
: "I began to focus on the issue of same-sex marriage much more intensely than
: I had before,” he added, reflecting on the Supreme Court's consideration
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g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 31 True.
【在 K*****y 的大作中提到】
: 对于一个去年刚刚连任的参议员来说，这根本不需要勇气， 真正勇敢的是那些面临着
: 连任竞选的红州参议员们
:
: than
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D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 32 Indeed
着连任竞选的红州参议员们
【在 K*****y 的大作中提到】
: 对于一个去年刚刚连任的参议员来说，这根本不需要勇气， 真正勇敢的是那些面临着
: 连任竞选的红州参议员们
:
: than
|
g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 33 Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.) became the latest Democrat to publicly support
marriage equality, announcing the news on his Facebook page Tuesday morning.
"As our society has changed and evolved, so too has the public's opinion on
gay marriage – and so has mine. I pray every day for God to grant me the
wisdom to do what is right. Through my prayers and conversations with my
family and countless friends and Delawareans, I've been reminded of the
power of one of my core values: the Golden Rule. It calls on us to treat
others as we want to be treated. That means, to me, that all Americans
ultimately should be free to marry the people they love and intend to share
their lives with, regardless of their sexual orientation, and that's why
today, after a great deal of soul searching, I'm endorsing marriage equality
." |
D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 34 How possible for Delaware to introduce same sex marriage bill sometime this
year?
morning.
on
share
【在 g********d 的大作中提到】
: Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.) became the latest Democrat to publicly support
: marriage equality, announcing the news on his Facebook page Tuesday morning.
: "As our society has changed and evolved, so too has the public's opinion on
: gay marriage – and so has mine. I pray every day for God to grant me the
: wisdom to do what is right. Through my prayers and conversations with my
: family and countless friends and Delawareans, I've been reminded of the
: power of one of my core values: the Golden Rule. It calls on us to treat
: others as we want to be treated. That means, to me, that all Americans
: ultimately should be free to marry the people they love and intend to share
: their lives with, regardless of their sexual orientation, and that's why
|
g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 35 "Carper's endorsement is particularly important as Delaware considers same-
sex marriage legislation. Although a marriage-equality bill has not yet been
introduced, the state Legislature is expected to consider such legislation
this year."
this
【在 D**S 的大作中提到】
: How possible for Delaware to introduce same sex marriage bill sometime this
: year?
:
: morning.
: on
: share
|
D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 36 Key word: THIS year
As far as I know, the Delawarean legislature is not in session the whole
year.
been
legislation
【在 g********d 的大作中提到】
: "Carper's endorsement is particularly important as Delaware considers same-
: sex marriage legislation. Although a marriage-equality bill has not yet been
: introduced, the state Legislature is expected to consider such legislation
: this year."
:
: this
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g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 37 Another Senator Supports Marriage Equality: Bill Nelson of Florida
And then there were six: Today Bill Nelson of Florida became the latest
Democratic U.S. senator to support marriage equality, leaving only six
holdouts among Dems in that chamber.
Nelson gave a statement to the Tampa Bay Times editorial board saying, in
part, “If The Lord made homosexuals as well as heterosexuals, why should I
discriminate against their civil marriage? I shouldn’t, and I won’t. So I
will add my name to the petition of senators asking the Supreme Court to
declare the law that prohibits gay marriage unconstitutional.”
Nelson had previously backed civil unions as an alternative to same-sex
marriage, but he arrived his new position after discussions with
constituents, clergy, and others, his spokesman Dan McLaughlin told the
Times.
“People say, ‘Why now?’” McLaughlin said. “Well, it’s because [of] the
cases that went before the Supreme Court and the public debate that has
ensued. During this discourse, Senator Nelson has heard from a lot of
constituents. The way he goes about his job is to always treat people with
civility and respect and hear what they have to say.”
Nelson’s announcement follows those of two other Democratic senators, Bob
Casey of Pennsylvania and Tom Carper of Delaware, and one Republican, Mark
Kirk of Illinois, in support of marriage equality earlier this week.
Out of the 53 Democrats in the Senate, the six remaining who have not
publicly backed marriage equality are Joe Donnelly of Indiana, Heidi
Heitkamp of North Dakota, Tim Johnson of South Dakota, Mary Landrieu of
Louisiana, Joe Manchin of West Virginia, and Mark Pryor of Arkansas.
Two independents who caucus with the Democrats, Bernie Sanders of Vermont
and Angus King of Maine, both support marriage equality. Besides Kirk, the
only Republican senator to endorse equal marriage rights for same-sex
couples is Rob Portman of Ohio. |
e***h
发帖数: 2791 | |
m******1
发帖数: 19713 | |
g********d
发帖数: 4174 | 40 3 to Go: Another Senate Democrat Says He Favors Marriage Equality
Sen. Tim Johnson was one of the last remaining holdouts in the Senate among
Democrats on marriage equality but announced today that he's "evolved."
Johnson is retiring at the end of this term as South Dakota's senator, and
his son Brendan is considered a possible candidate to replace him in 2014.
"After lengthy consideration, my views have evolved sufficiently to support
marriage equality legislation," he said in a statement released today. "
This position doesn't require any religious denomination to alter any of its
tenets; it simply forbids government from discrimination regarding who can
marry whom."
South Dakota's other senator, Republican John Thune, remains opposed to
marriage equality.
This means there are now 54 votes — including two Republicans — in favor
of marriage equality in the Senate. Only three Democrats remain opposed —
Sen. Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Sen. Mary
Landrieu of Louisiana.
The latest answer from Landrieu, who is up for reelection next year, sends a
conflicting message about where she stands. While Landrieu said her
personal view is that "people should love who they love and marry who they
want to marry," she is committed to representing her state's view instead. "
My state has a very strong constitutional amendment not only against gay
marriage but against gay partnerships. So I'm looking at the people of
Louisiana trying to represent their interests," she told CNN on Friday.
Pryor is also up for reelection in 2014 in a state not considered favorable
for Democrats and said on Friday that he's now "undecided" on marriage
equality.
Manchin won reelection to full term last year but is best remembered as the
senator who shot a gun in a campaign ad to show voters how different he is
from your typical Democrat. "I believe that a marriage is a union between
one man and one woman," Manchin said in a statement to Talking Points Memo
on Tuesday. "My beliefs are guided by my faith, and I support the Defense of
Marriage Act." |
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p***2
发帖数: 374 | 41 这个，其实作用不大了吧。DOMA现在也不指望国会repeal了，法官估计很快就废除那个
条款，marriage是州法范围，联邦也不太好要求每个州都承认同性婚姻。
真是墙倒众人推，看着高法反正也要推翻DOMA，不如选对边。 |
