q*******7
发帖数: 168 | 1 收到几个bank的面试都是这个职位, 主要monitor portfolio P&L, set up risk limit
and monitor risk limit, communicate with trader to enforce the risk limit,
and approval of new method.
面试感觉这类职位对quant和编程要求不严, 主要是communication和对product的理解.
请教一下:这类职位的前景如何, 一般career development path 是怎样的, 有机会成
为trader 或者portfolio manager 嘛?和model developer或者standard quant比较起
来,, 这类职位有什么优劣?
对这不太了解, 真心请教了 |
i****y
发帖数: 82 | 2 risk analyst非常无聊。不过可以成为以后的跳板。和quant没关系，基本不用什么
quant知识 |
f*******y
发帖数: 988 | 3 我看迟早会变成compliance的一部分
我隔壁的那个compliance，我是眼睁睁看着从一个文科生变成一个满嘴greek的人
【在 i****y 的大作中提到】
: risk analyst非常无聊。不过可以成为以后的跳板。和quant没关系，基本不用什么
: quant知识
|
h*******7
发帖数: 1481 | 4 几乎没有成为trader 或者portfolio manager 的机会。
想要成为trader 或者portfolio manager，最容易的捷径是首先成为trader 或者
portfolio manager的手下，也就是说能够直接Report给trader （也许是Trading Desk
Head）或者portfolio manager的位置。
limit
,
解.
【在 q*******7 的大作中提到】
: 收到几个bank的面试都是这个职位, 主要monitor portfolio P&L, set up risk limit
: and monitor risk limit, communicate with trader to enforce the risk limit,
: and approval of new method.
: 面试感觉这类职位对quant和编程要求不严, 主要是communication和对product的理解.
: 请教一下:这类职位的前景如何, 一般career development path 是怎样的, 有机会成
: 为trader 或者portfolio manager 嘛?和model developer或者standard quant比较起
: 来,, 这类职位有什么优劣?
: 对这不太了解, 真心请教了
|
e***z
发帖数: 7126 | 5 不明白trader这种风险大，底薪也比较低
万一不赚钱没奖金同时丢工作
一旦丢工作个两三次在圈子里没法混下去的职业
怎么现在还有那么多人趋之若鹜呐？
没见过不赚钱desk的trader 每天什么样子麽，还是都觉得自己无比聪明一旦touch
money
必然技压群雄一捅浆糊？
Desk
【在 h*******7 的大作中提到】
: 几乎没有成为trader 或者portfolio manager 的机会。
: 想要成为trader 或者portfolio manager，最容易的捷径是首先成为trader 或者
: portfolio manager的手下，也就是说能够直接Report给trader （也许是Trading Desk
: Head）或者portfolio manager的位置。
:
: limit
: ,
: 解.
|
h****e
发帖数: 2125 | 6 there are many many gamblers in this world...
【在 e***z 的大作中提到】
: 不明白trader这种风险大，底薪也比较低
: 万一不赚钱没奖金同时丢工作
: 一旦丢工作个两三次在圈子里没法混下去的职业
: 怎么现在还有那么多人趋之若鹜呐？
: 没见过不赚钱desk的trader 每天什么样子麽，还是都觉得自己无比聪明一旦touch
: money
: 必然技压群雄一捅浆糊？
:
: Desk
|
q*******7
发帖数: 168 | 7 那这种职位的发展会是什么样呢? 一直做risk analyst?还是容易改行做其他的? |
t*****3
发帖数: 878 | 8 Portfolio Manager是不是就是FUND MANAGER啊? |
h*******7
发帖数: 1481 | 9 你要觉得你比大投行/Hedge Fund 的Trader 底薪高，Expected Compensation 高，风
险低，比他们聪明，比他们牛，那我恭喜你，你一定是个心态很好，每天都很快乐的人！
【在 e***z 的大作中提到】
: 不明白trader这种风险大，底薪也比较低
: 万一不赚钱没奖金同时丢工作
: 一旦丢工作个两三次在圈子里没法混下去的职业
: 怎么现在还有那么多人趋之若鹜呐？
: 没见过不赚钱desk的trader 每天什么样子麽，还是都觉得自己无比聪明一旦touch
: money
: 必然技压群雄一捅浆糊？
:
: Desk
|
l****o
发帖数: 2909 | 10 You must be kidding me. Knowing the product is the msot important thing. Quant skills are far less important than the product knowledge.
One of my little friend, graduated from Yale University Undergraduate, successfully transferred from exotic interest rate market risk analyst and monitoring into a commodity trader, now earns more than 500k a year.
Desk
【在 h*******7 的大作中提到】
: 几乎没有成为trader 或者portfolio manager 的机会。
: 想要成为trader 或者portfolio manager，最容易的捷径是首先成为trader 或者
: portfolio manager的手下，也就是说能够直接Report给trader （也许是Trading Desk
: Head）或者portfolio manager的位置。
:
: limit
: ,
: 解.
|
|
|
h*******7
发帖数: 1481 | 11 "几乎没有" Means P(market risk analysts for trading become Traders / Portfolio Managers) is very small. It doesn't mean P(market risk analysts for trading become Traders / Portfolio Managers) = 0.
P(market risk analysts for trading become Traders / Portfolio Managers)
and P(Front office analysts for trading become Traders / Portfolio Managers),
which one is larger?
Front office analysts for trading don't know the product? You must be
kidding me!
Quant skills are far less important than the product knowledge.
successfully transferred from exotic interest rate market risk analyst and
monitoring into a commodity trader, now earns more than 500k a year.
【在 l****o 的大作中提到】
: You must be kidding me. Knowing the product is the msot important thing. Quant skills are far less important than the product knowledge.
: One of my little friend, graduated from Yale University Undergraduate, successfully transferred from exotic interest rate market risk analyst and monitoring into a commodity trader, now earns more than 500k a year.
:
: Desk
|
j****1
发帖数: 65 | 12 不试一把不甘心。。。
【在 e***z 的大作中提到】
: 不明白trader这种风险大，底薪也比较低
: 万一不赚钱没奖金同时丢工作
: 一旦丢工作个两三次在圈子里没法混下去的职业
: 怎么现在还有那么多人趋之若鹜呐？
: 没见过不赚钱desk的trader 每天什么样子麽，还是都觉得自己无比聪明一旦touch
: money
: 必然技压群雄一捅浆糊？
:
: Desk
|
q*******7
发帖数: 168 | 13 How about the probability
P(market risk analyst to front office risk analyst) compared to P(middilf
office/ back office risk analyst to front office)?
Bests |
J*****n
发帖数: 4859 | 14
Portfolio Managers) is very small. It doesn't mean P(market risk analysts
for trading become Traders / Portfolio Managers) = 0.
Managers),
and
say something about your sample size.
【在 h*******7 的大作中提到】
: "几乎没有" Means P(market risk analysts for trading become Traders / Portfolio Managers) is very small. It doesn't mean P(market risk analysts for trading become Traders / Portfolio Managers) = 0.
: P(market risk analysts for trading become Traders / Portfolio Managers)
: and P(Front office analysts for trading become Traders / Portfolio Managers),
: which one is larger?
: Front office analysts for trading don't know the product? You must be
: kidding me!
:
: Quant skills are far less important than the product knowledge.
: successfully transferred from exotic interest rate market risk analyst and
: monitoring into a commodity trader, now earns more than 500k a year.
|
n*****3
发帖数: 1584 | 15
Knowing the product?? so an under Knowing the product? better than other
senior with Quant skill for sure?
His success might be a unique case, just like the LZ said, this is a very
risky career. Can not agree more .
Quant skills are far less important than the product knowledge.
successfully transferred from exotic interest rate market risk analyst and
monitoring into a commodity trader, now earns more than 500k a year.
【在 l****o 的大作中提到】
: You must be kidding me. Knowing the product is the msot important thing. Quant skills are far less important than the product knowledge.
: One of my little friend, graduated from Yale University Undergraduate, successfully transferred from exotic interest rate market risk analyst and monitoring into a commodity trader, now earns more than 500k a year.
:
: Desk
|
