y***k
发帖数: 3 | 1 Anybody here familiar with the quantitative psychology? What is it about? Any
prerequisite math courses? Where can I find the rank of this major? How about
the future job market? Any kind of informatin is welcome!
Thanks a lot! | r******s
发帖数: 2155 | 2 Usually three domains: JDM, psychometrics, and math modeling.
Check this: http://quantrm2.psy.ohio-state.edu/
Other top schools including UIUC and UCLA.
Any
about
【在 y***k 的大作中提到】
: Anybody here familiar with the quantitative psychology? What is it about? Any
: prerequisite math courses? Where can I find the rank of this major? How about
: the future job market? Any kind of informatin is welcome!
: Thanks a lot!
| A***A
发帖数: 98 | 3 In the UC system, UC-Davis and UC-Santa Barbara also have quant programs.
Others (in addition to the list) include:
U Minnesota, UNC-CH, Bowling Green, Arizona St U, Notre Dame, GIT, USC, UVA,
U Oklahoma, U Kansas, UMO-Columbia, University of Washington, etc.
There are also a number of psyc phd programs that offer a "minor" in
quantitative psychology.
Programs vary in terms of their requirement, and I probably know a few of them
better than the others. The academic job market, in general, is qu
【在 r******s 的大作中提到】
: Usually three domains: JDM, psychometrics, and math modeling.
: Check this: http://quantrm2.psy.ohio-state.edu/
: Other top schools including UIUC and UCLA.
:
: Any
: about
| A***A
发帖数: 98 | 4 Quantitative psychology, or simply "quant," is both an approach to studying
psychological phenomena (in contrast with and/or in complement to the
qualitative approach), as well as a field of study of its own right. But
because most, if not all, mainstream psychological research conducted in the
US these days are heavily leaning towards using quantitative and statistical
methods, and indeed, if we define some one who uses quantitative methods to
study psychological principles as a "quantitative | y**a
发帖数: 10 | 5 I like the name" Kappa". Is it from decision consistency? | y**a
发帖数: 10 | 6 I feel that "quant psych" people are more interested in, like SEM,HLM, factor
analysis etc., than psychometrics, say, testing theory.
and
modeling
so
exactly
and
on
is
the
all
more
the
【在 A***A 的大作中提到】
: Quantitative psychology, or simply "quant," is both an approach to studying
: psychological phenomena (in contrast with and/or in complement to the
: qualitative approach), as well as a field of study of its own right. But
: because most, if not all, mainstream psychological research conducted in the
: US these days are heavily leaning towards using quantitative and statistical
: methods, and indeed, if we define some one who uses quantitative methods to
: study psychological principles as a "quantitative
| A***A
发帖数: 98 | 7 This is not entirely true.
In the last three decades the part of test theory that has grown the most is
undoubtedly Item Response Theory. Now, if we can agree on that, then let's
see what contribution psychometricians have put forth in comparison with that
from educational measurement researchers.
One simple fact: almost all software programs used to calibrate items are
written by R Darrell Bock and his students. As far as I can recall, the last
time I saw Bock, he was still calling himself a | A***A
发帖数: 98 | 8 This is both true and not entirely true.
Many newer quant training programs no longer have a test theory component to
it, which in my humble opinion is quite unfortunate.
Graduates from those programs tend not to know much about measurement, and
hence leave the impression that test theory is no longer a part of quant.
factor
studying
the
statistical
to
are
in
and
principles
into
i.e,
are
Since
【在 y**a 的大作中提到】
: I feel that "quant psych" people are more interested in, like SEM,HLM, factor
: analysis etc., than psychometrics, say, testing theory.
:
: and
: modeling
: so
: exactly
: and
: on
: is
| a*e
发帖数: 431 | 9 What conference do you quant people go to?
【在 A***A 的大作中提到】
: This is both true and not entirely true.
: Many newer quant training programs no longer have a test theory component to
: it, which in my humble opinion is quite unfortunate.
: Graduates from those programs tend not to know much about measurement, and
: hence leave the impression that test theory is no longer a part of quant.
:
: factor
: studying
: the
: statistical
| r******s
发帖数: 2155 | 10 factor analysis tradition to SEM are mostly fueled by psycholigists' research
starting from Spearman, Thurston, Joreskog, Bentler, Browne, etc.
that
last
【在 A***A 的大作中提到】
: This is not entirely true.
: In the last three decades the part of test theory that has grown the most is
: undoubtedly Item Response Theory. Now, if we can agree on that, then let's
: see what contribution psychometricians have put forth in comparison with that
: from educational measurement researchers.
: One simple fact: almost all software programs used to calibrate items are
: written by R Darrell Bock and his students. As far as I can recall, the last
: time I saw Bock, he was still calling himself a
| | | r******s
发帖数: 2155 | 11 SJDM is one that I used to go.
【在 a*e 的大作中提到】
: What conference do you quant people go to?
| A***A
发帖数: 98 | 12 Annual conference of the Psychometric Society
APA Division 5
Society of Multivariate Experimental Psychology
etc.
【在 r******s 的大作中提到】
: SJDM is one that I used to go.
| A***A
发帖数: 98 | 13 I also would go to statistics conferences.
【在 A***A 的大作中提到】
: Annual conference of the Psychometric Society
: APA Division 5
: Society of Multivariate Experimental Psychology
: etc.
| A***A
发帖数: 98 | 14 That is correct.
Spearman and his g-factor theory was really invented before its time. His
1904 paper is very modern in a lot of ways.
Karl Joreskog and Michael Browne are strictly speaking statisticians working
on models used in psychological settings. Of course they've made great
contributions to the field.
There is a clear influence from DN Lawley and Sir Godfrey Thomson on Karl
Joreskog for his interest in factor analysis. On the other hand, Joreskog's
advisor, Herman Wold, is also instru
【在 r******s 的大作中提到】
: factor analysis tradition to SEM are mostly fueled by psycholigists' research
: starting from Spearman, Thurston, Joreskog, Bentler, Browne, etc.
:
: that
: last
| y**a
发帖数: 10 | 15 Fortunately, you are lucky as you are in a program both focusing on
quantitative methods and test theory.
But
design
longitudinal
【在 A***A 的大作中提到】
: This is both true and not entirely true.
: Many newer quant training programs no longer have a test theory component to
: it, which in my humble opinion is quite unfortunate.
: Graduates from those programs tend not to know much about measurement, and
: hence leave the impression that test theory is no longer a part of quant.
:
: factor
: studying
: the
: statistical
| y**a
发帖数: 10 | 16 Thurstone Scaling (1925) placed scale values for test questions on same scale
as examinees, which share the similar idea with IRT in which proficiency
(theta) for each candidate and probability of correct response on a same
scale. From the perspective, psychometrics is built based on psychology.
manifest
Ledyard
Lord's
most
【在 A***A 的大作中提到】
: That is correct.
: Spearman and his g-factor theory was really invented before its time. His
: 1904 paper is very modern in a lot of ways.
: Karl Joreskog and Michael Browne are strictly speaking statisticians working
: on models used in psychological settings. Of course they've made great
: contributions to the field.
: There is a clear influence from DN Lawley and Sir Godfrey Thomson on Karl
: Joreskog for his interest in factor analysis. On the other hand, Joreskog's
: advisor, Herman Wold, is also instru
| c******y
发帖数: 114 | 17 This is very interesting...
ARIMA, pls introduce more about the IRT development in both psychology field
and education field...
And, what is the difference between psychometrician's job and educational
measurement researcher's job?
thanks.
that
last
【在 A***A 的大作中提到】
: This is not entirely true.
: In the last three decades the part of test theory that has grown the most is
: undoubtedly Item Response Theory. Now, if we can agree on that, then let's
: see what contribution psychometricians have put forth in comparison with that
: from educational measurement researchers.
: One simple fact: almost all software programs used to calibrate items are
: written by R Darrell Bock and his students. As far as I can recall, the last
: time I saw Bock, he was still calling himself a
| A***A
发帖数: 98 | 18 I probably know a bit more about IRT development in psyc than in ed
measurement, partly because all the IRT people that I know personally are in
psyc departments.
Darrell Bock (1997) has a very good paper on the history of IRT (note: not
Rasch modeling) in the winter issue of "Educational Measurement: Issues and
Practice." This should be an NCME publication, if I'm correct. He traces the
roots of IRT to Thurstone's (1925) paper on scaling. Thurstone was trying to
put the
Binet intelligence sc
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: This is very interesting...
: ARIMA, pls introduce more about the IRT development in both psychology field
: and education field...
: And, what is the difference between psychometrician's job and educational
: measurement researcher's job?
: thanks.
:
: that
: last
| a*e
发帖数: 431 | 19 ft. 写得真好，再admire一次。
the
to
at
provides
this
didn't
off
from
and
parameters.
space.
【在 A***A 的大作中提到】
: I probably know a bit more about IRT development in psyc than in ed
: measurement, partly because all the IRT people that I know personally are in
: psyc departments.
: Darrell Bock (1997) has a very good paper on the history of IRT (note: not
: Rasch modeling) in the winter issue of "Educational Measurement: Issues and
: Practice." This should be an NCME publication, if I'm correct. He traces the
: roots of IRT to Thurstone's (1925) paper on scaling. Thurstone was trying to
: put the
: Binet intelligence sc
| c******y
发帖数: 114 | 20 Thank you so much, ARIMA...
btw, why did not mark this post, BM? This is the best post I have ever read on
this board.
the
to
at
provides
this
didn't
off
from
and
parameters.
space.
【在 A***A 的大作中提到】
: I probably know a bit more about IRT development in psyc than in ed
: measurement, partly because all the IRT people that I know personally are in
: psyc departments.
: Darrell Bock (1997) has a very good paper on the history of IRT (note: not
: Rasch modeling) in the winter issue of "Educational Measurement: Issues and
: Practice." This should be an NCME publication, if I'm correct. He traces the
: roots of IRT to Thurstone's (1925) paper on scaling. Thurstone was trying to
: put the
: Binet intelligence sc
| | | r******s
发帖数: 2155 | 21 he sure knows his subject.
Admire
on
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: Thank you so much, ARIMA...
: btw, why did not mark this post, BM? This is the best post I have ever read on
: this board.
:
: the
: to
: at
: provides
: this
: didn't
| y***k
发帖数: 3 | 22 seems like i am the person who has asked the question and then checked out for
the answer after such a long time. Thanks a lot, Arima and restless for your
kind reply. They really helped.
them
about?
【在 A***A 的大作中提到】
: In the UC system, UC-Davis and UC-Santa Barbara also have quant programs.
: Others (in addition to the list) include:
: U Minnesota, UNC-CH, Bowling Green, Arizona St U, Notre Dame, GIT, USC, UVA,
: U Oklahoma, U Kansas, UMO-Columbia, University of Washington, etc.
: There are also a number of psyc phd programs that offer a "minor" in
: quantitative psychology.
: Programs vary in terms of their requirement, and I probably know a few of them
: better than the others. The academic job market, in general, is qu
| r******s
发帖数: 2155 | 23 My pleasure.
for
【在 y***k 的大作中提到】
: seems like i am the person who has asked the question and then checked out for
: the answer after such a long time. Thanks a lot, Arima and restless for your
: kind reply. They really helped.
:
: them
: about?
|
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