j**4
发帖数: 10425 | 1 this fucking country has to do something about mother fucking gun controls! | b*******1
发帖数: 747 | 2 枪版粉丝们继续说不是枪杀人，有枪更安全。
这个国家禁枪为什么这么难？ | E******t
发帖数: 660 | | H*******s
发帖数: 793 | 4 没那么简单。
在枪还没有大量流通的情况下，禁枪不是个坏办法（不考虑暴政的话）。
但现在枪的大量流通已经成了既成事实，禁枪只能造成普通人的软弱和犯罪分子的嚣张
。禁枪的法律只能限制普通人，犯罪分子根本不屑一顾。
【在 b*******1 的大作中提到】
: 枪版粉丝们继续说不是枪杀人，有枪更安全。
: 这个国家禁枪为什么这么难？
| l***c
发帖数: 1634 | 5 what kind of logic.is.this?
when there werent many guns, they say you need guns to protect.yourself from
tyranny.
now, they say you need it to protect against criminal?
【在 H*******s 的大作中提到】
: 没那么简单。
: 在枪还没有大量流通的情况下，禁枪不是个坏办法（不考虑暴政的话）。
: 但现在枪的大量流通已经成了既成事实，禁枪只能造成普通人的软弱和犯罪分子的嚣张
: 。禁枪的法律只能限制普通人，犯罪分子根本不屑一顾。
| H*******s
发帖数: 793 | 6 freedom comes at a price my friend. A price that not everyone is willing to
pay, unfortunately. I am not saying I like it, I'm just telling you the
situation as it is.
from
【在 l***c 的大作中提到】
: what kind of logic.is.this?
: when there werent many guns, they say you need guns to protect.yourself from
: tyranny.
: now, they say you need it to protect against criminal?
| l***c
发帖数: 1634 | 7 no, freedom doesn't have a price. To live in a society has a price; the
price is part of your freedom.
When man is in wilderness, he can kill, burn, or pillage whatever he wants.
However, when he lives in a society, he gives up the freedom and give in to
the Law.
That's what we are asking people to do here, give up the freedom to guns so
there will be no more such tragedies.
You might say gun control will only takes guns away from law-abiding
citizens, not criminals. As a result, only criminals have guns. That's BS.
Law enforcers still have gun.
Without gun control, it is impossible for law enforcers to differentiate who
is a law-abiding citizen and who is a criminal.
to
【在 H*******s 的大作中提到】
: freedom comes at a price my friend. A price that not everyone is willing to
: pay, unfortunately. I am not saying I like it, I'm just telling you the
: situation as it is.
:
: from
| H*******s
发帖数: 793 | 8 you are so naive, thinking law enforcers having a gun will be the solution
to everything. Do you also believe law enforcers can solve every crime,
track down every criminal? How would you know whether someone has a gun
before he uses it? Right now there are more non-military guns in US than
there are people.
More than 47% of people say they own a gun in their household. Do you even
understand the magnitude of the problem?
Freedom isn't free. Freedom is always paid in blood. Like I said, I don't
support gun ownership, but as for the current condition in US, banning guns
would only make the situation worse. There's nothing you can do right now to
make it better.
Just look at mexico if you want to see what happens when
.
to
so
【在 l***c 的大作中提到】
: no, freedom doesn't have a price. To live in a society has a price; the
: price is part of your freedom.
: When man is in wilderness, he can kill, burn, or pillage whatever he wants.
: However, when he lives in a society, he gives up the freedom and give in to
: the Law.
: That's what we are asking people to do here, give up the freedom to guns so
: there will be no more such tragedies.
: You might say gun control will only takes guns away from law-abiding
: citizens, not criminals. As a result, only criminals have guns. That's BS.
: Law enforcers still have gun.
| m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 9 too expensive to do so.
if you really want to ban gun, it has to be done in a federal level, it
makes it even harder.
it is all about cost, any should / shouldn't discussion is just some empty
talk to justify the result | l***c
发帖数: 1634 | 10 and you are so worldly that you want some random person to buy a gun to
shoot you and your kids.
To me, anyone who purchases a gun can turn into a killer. So, instead of 300
million potential killers, i rather deal with significantly less criminals.
47% of household with guns?
What is the point of gun control? people have to give up their guns.
even
guns
to
【在 H*******s 的大作中提到】
: you are so naive, thinking law enforcers having a gun will be the solution
: to everything. Do you also believe law enforcers can solve every crime,
: track down every criminal? How would you know whether someone has a gun
: before he uses it? Right now there are more non-military guns in US than
: there are people.
: More than 47% of people say they own a gun in their household. Do you even
: understand the magnitude of the problem?
: Freedom isn't free. Freedom is always paid in blood. Like I said, I don't
: support gun ownership, but as for the current condition in US, banning guns
: would only make the situation worse. There's nothing you can do right now to
| | | H*******s
发帖数: 793 | 11 no, i'm just mature enough to know that criminals are all over the place
anyway, and I will always be at a disadvantage regardless of whether there's
guns. As it is impossible for the government to eliminate all guns from
society, and it's impossible to always have the police right by my side to
protect me, it's better strategy for me to have a gun than not.
Your naivety lies in that you actually believe the government CAN
realistically remove most of the guns from society. You are even more naive
in believing that the police can protect you when the crime is on-going.They
'd like you to think they can, but they can't.
The world just doesn't work like how you think it should, my dear.
300
criminals.
【在 l***c 的大作中提到】
: and you are so worldly that you want some random person to buy a gun to
: shoot you and your kids.
: To me, anyone who purchases a gun can turn into a killer. So, instead of 300
: million potential killers, i rather deal with significantly less criminals.
: 47% of household with guns?
: What is the point of gun control? people have to give up their guns.
:
: even
: guns
: to
| j**4
发帖数: 10425 | 12 where the fuck did u come from?? did u fucking come from china?? are u
fucking telling me that u can get a fucking gun in china??!
when was the last time u see a fucking gun show in china??!
's
naive
They
【在 H*******s 的大作中提到】
: no, i'm just mature enough to know that criminals are all over the place
: anyway, and I will always be at a disadvantage regardless of whether there's
: guns. As it is impossible for the government to eliminate all guns from
: society, and it's impossible to always have the police right by my side to
: protect me, it's better strategy for me to have a gun than not.
: Your naivety lies in that you actually believe the government CAN
: realistically remove most of the guns from society. You are even more naive
: in believing that the police can protect you when the crime is on-going.They
: 'd like you to think they can, but they can't.
: The world just doesn't work like how you think it should, my dear.
| a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 13 Getting rid of the 2nd amendment is extremely hard, changing the
constitution needs a lot of votes. If the president is Democrat, the 2/3 of
the senate and house are all democrats, there might be a chance. It's
extremely sad to see all these tragedies happened, but realities aren't that
easy changed by emotions. | H*******s
发帖数: 793 | 14 what does china have to do with anything, friendo?
【在 j**4 的大作中提到】
: where the fuck did u come from?? did u fucking come from china?? are u
: fucking telling me that u can get a fucking gun in china??!
: when was the last time u see a fucking gun show in china??!
:
: 's
: naive
: They
| j******3
发帖数: 18319 | 15 太晚了，很难控制。现在急缺的是心理医生。
【在 j**4 的大作中提到】
: this fucking country has to do something about mother fucking gun controls!
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