a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 1 估计很多人看到的只是穷人富人代表，非常表面。看看两党的哲学，英文版的好点：
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Democrat_vs_Republican
中文百度也不错：
从思想取向层面来看，美国两大政党分别代表两种差别极大的政治哲学：民主党－－自
由主义；共和党－－保守主义。自由主义和保守主义在不同的国家里有不同的含义，即
使在美国也有不下几十种定义。一般说来，美国当代的自由主义理论推崇革新、容忍与
社会平等，主张观念、制度和法律应随社会环境之改变而变迁；而保守主义思想则强调
文化延续性，注重传统价值、社会稳定与宗教之作用。
在具体政洽领域，保守主义与自由主义的最大分歧莫过于“大政府”与“小政府”之争
。保守主义理论从维护个人自由这个基点出发，坚信政府权力之扩大即意味著个人自由
之缩小。这种理论认为，政府对经济的干预和对社会问题的涉人必定会危及美国文明的
根基－个人自由。更有甚者，保守主义理论还认为联邦政府的社会福利、高开支、高税
收、及保护少数民族权益等政策均不同程度的造成或深化了美国的社会经济问题，如生
产率下降，通货膨胀，中上阶级收入减少，商企界投资热情不高，懒人依赖政府救济等
等。
与此相反，自由主义理论认为，放任的资本主义经济导致了严重的贫富不均、高失业与
一系列其它问题，而高度发达的科技与经济发展并没有明显改变美国社会不平等现象，
如种族歧视，妇女权益得不到足够保护等。因此，自由主义理论深信，美国社会的急迫
问题不是个人权利受到侵犯，而是社会不平等没有得到纠正。同时，自由主义理论还认
为，美国诸多的社会经济问题如此之严重，如此
之深刻，非得政府出面参与解决不可。换言之，自由主义理论坚信政府权力不是造成美
国社会经济问题的原因，而是消除这些问题之重要手段。
由于保守主义与自由主义对大、小政府持不同意见，近几十年间，共和党和民主党在诸
如拨款、税收、政府调控经济、民权保障、枪支管制、环境保护等问题上明争暗斗，针
锋相对。美国两大政党关于政府权力大小之分歧在大选年显得最为突出。 1980年，罗
纳德·里根以“小府”，作为其竞选基调，猛烈抨击民主党的社会经济政策，认为自由
主义派的高开支，高税收及“福利社会”政策导致了高速货膨胀、高失业、高利率、高
国债与低速增长。1988年，乔治·布什挟里根保守主义当权八年之余威，再次祭起“小
政府”旗帜，信誓旦旦地向全国选民证， "Read My Lips No New Taxes"， 1992年，
民主党时来运转，比尔·克林顿利用美国经济不景气而布什政府应对无力之机，又向全
国选民开出沉寂了十二年的“大政府”药方，强调政府必须采取强有力措施，以帮助入
们渡过难关。振兴经济，走出萧条。从以上三例来看，，‘大政府，，与“小政府”的
药方均为有效，因为美国两大政党在政府权力与作用问题上早已界线分明，只要社会条
件与时机有利，争得中间势力同情，政治钟摆的方向将会很明显。
美国两大党关于大、小政府之争在国会立法中表现得同样激烈。尽管有议员跨党投票现
象，总的说来，共和党和民主党对与政府权力有关的议案的表决通常是营垒分明。克林
赖1993年当政后，其刺激经济的法案在参议院遭到共和党议员封杀，其联邦赤字减缩法
案也受到参众两院共和党议员一致抵制。在布什执政期间，民主党虽在参案两院占有优
势，成功地通过了几十个法案，但由于共和党占据白宫，布付利用总统权力将那些与“
大政府”有关的法案一一加以否决。四年期间，布什总共否决了近三十个国会两院所通
过之法案，只有关于政府对有线电视价格施加控制的一个法案后来又被两院以三分之二
多数通过成为法律，其余均为夭折。克林顿一入主白宫，民主党议员急忙又将被布什否
决的一些法案重新通过（如"Family Leave Bill")，交由民主党总统顺利签署。关于大
、小政府的党
派之争并不限于联邦国会，在美国五十州的州议会里，类似的情形同样存在。 |
i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 2 Both parties have liberal and conservatives.
You should take a look of this analysis:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article3/NewYork/32635439_0_tp.html
Also, calling socialist as liberal is probably not the right term to use. |
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 3 That's 国人观点。 You want to see facts, not 观点， and you believe the 观点
from people who is living in China? Great!
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Both parties have liberal and conservatives.
: You should take a look of this analysis:
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article3/NewYork/32635439_0_tp.html
: Also, calling socialist as liberal is probably not the right term to use.
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 4 现在这种极度两极分化的社会，再不左转就等着革命吧 |
j**4
发帖数: 10425 | 5 the economic gap is much bigger in china...
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
: 现在这种极度两极分化的社会，再不左转就等着革命吧
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Y*****2
发帖数: 38613 | |
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 7 You can't vote in China. Even people can, a lot of them can't be independent
and can not judge. That's why the US has the electoral college to begin
with long long time ago, even though everything think it's useless now.
【在 j**4 的大作中提到】
: the economic gap is much bigger in china...
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 8 共产党喜欢你么？
【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: 去
: 我喜欢共产党！
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Y*****2
发帖数: 38613 | 9 当然
我是党的好女儿
没有党没有我的今天啊
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 共产党喜欢你么？
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 10 这就对了，党花了那么多钱在你身上，就是让你长满翅膀，工作了纳税给美国。
是爱你就让你走吧的么？
【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: 当然
: 我是党的好女儿
: 没有党没有我的今天啊
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j**4
发帖数: 10425 | 11 one well connected family got rich and send their daughter overseas to
enrich united states... gotta love the communist party...
【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: 当然
: 我是党的好女儿
: 没有党没有我的今天啊
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j**4
发帖数: 10425 | 12 so what? ppl can still uprise in china...
independent
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: You can't vote in China. Even people can, a lot of them can't be independent
: and can not judge. That's why the US has the electoral college to begin
: with long long time ago, even though everything think it's useless now.
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i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 13 Sounds like you don't like 共产主义. Why do you think that 社会主义 is that
much better?
independent
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: You can't vote in China. Even people can, a lot of them can't be independent
: and can not judge. That's why the US has the electoral college to begin
: with long long time ago, even though everything think it's useless now.
|
Y*****2
发帖数: 38613 | 14 党可没花钱在我身上...
党给我的是知识和力量
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 这就对了，党花了那么多钱在你身上，就是让你长满翅膀，工作了纳税给美国。
: 是爱你就让你走吧的么？
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Y*****2
发帖数: 38613 | 15 胡说
我是标准的无产阶级
【在 j**4 的大作中提到】
: one well connected family got rich and send their daughter overseas to
: enrich united states... gotta love the communist party...
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 16 do you think your lover turned 180 degrees from right to left is just by
accident?
【在 j**4 的大作中提到】
: the economic gap is much bigger in china...
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 17 I don't like 共产主义 because it's absolute power, once you are on the top,
it's always on top. Every important decision about people's daily lives is
made only by 9 people. What if they are wrong? They need more people to join
in. I don't like the Obama care, either, but giving only these two choices,
you have no choice. Even you are republican, I am sure you don't like every
policy they make. BTW, it's not 社会主义 here.
that
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Sounds like you don't like 共产主义. Why do you think that 社会主义 is that
: much better?
:
: independent
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i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 18 In that case, you are actually a republican and you don't even know it.
Republican thinks that you, the Individuals, should exercise personal
responsibility and it is the governments role to hold them accountable even
with severe penalties. Laws are enacted to reflect the best interest of the
society as a whole.
O8 on the other hand wants to make that decision for you since you don't
know any better.
,
join
choices,
every
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: I don't like 共产主义 because it's absolute power, once you are on the top,
: it's always on top. Every important decision about people's daily lives is
: made only by 9 people. What if they are wrong? They need more people to join
: in. I don't like the Obama care, either, but giving only these two choices,
: you have no choice. Even you are republican, I am sure you don't like every
: policy they make. BTW, it's not 社会主义 here.
:
: that
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 19 haha.. wrong, a lot of republican's values I just don't agree. Even you are
registered as a republican, you can always vote for Democratic nominees. So
vote for what you believe. It doesn't matter who you vote for, what matters
is that you go to vote.
even
the
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: In that case, you are actually a republican and you don't even know it.
: Republican thinks that you, the Individuals, should exercise personal
: responsibility and it is the governments role to hold them accountable even
: with severe penalties. Laws are enacted to reflect the best interest of the
: society as a whole.
: O8 on the other hand wants to make that decision for you since you don't
: know any better.
:
: ,
: join
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i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 20 I have voted for good democrats (and a not so good one - Elliot Spitzer),
but I don't think O8 deserve my vote.
Wondering how many democrats here have the courage to look beyond their
party line and vote for republican candidates.
are
So
matters
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: haha.. wrong, a lot of republican's values I just don't agree. Even you are
: registered as a republican, you can always vote for Democratic nominees. So
: vote for what you believe. It doesn't matter who you vote for, what matters
: is that you go to vote.
:
: even
: the
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 21 No wonder that's what happened to Elliot Spitzer.. LOL..kidding.
In reality, you can't change that much in NY, it will go to O8.
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: I have voted for good democrats (and a not so good one - Elliot Spitzer),
: but I don't think O8 deserve my vote.
: Wondering how many democrats here have the courage to look beyond their
: party line and vote for republican candidates.
:
: are
: So
: matters
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r*******t
发帖数: 8550 | 22 I only knew in 2004 and 2008 there were lot of my republican coworkers did
not like Bush and voted for democrats.
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: I have voted for good democrats (and a not so good one - Elliot Spitzer),
: but I don't think O8 deserve my vote.
: Wondering how many democrats here have the courage to look beyond their
: party line and vote for republican candidates.
:
: are
: So
: matters
|
i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 23 Republicans have the courage to say Bush Jr. lied about Iraq and not vote
for him.
Do Democrats have the enough brain power to realize that O8 have wasted 4
critical 4 years and should step down?
【在 r*******t 的大作中提到】
: I only knew in 2004 and 2008 there were lot of my republican coworkers did
: not like Bush and voted for democrats.
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r*******t
发帖数: 8550 | 24 We are moving FORWARD with Obama.
Romney need to think with brain before he speaks anything.
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Republicans have the courage to say Bush Jr. lied about Iraq and not vote
: for him.
: Do Democrats have the enough brain power to realize that O8 have wasted 4
: critical 4 years and should step down?
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 25 O8 didn't waste 4 years, actually I think he did pretty good job to keep the
economy stable. It was TERRIBLE when Bush stepped down. The whole financial
system was just frozen. If the government didn't step in, it could be a
disaster. The Fed chairman Ben Bernanke is an expert in financial crisis and
he studies the great depression with his whole life. In great recession,
the government needs to SPEND a lot of money to bring the economy back into
track. And the government needs to borrow, if they can't collect a lot money
from desperate citizens/businesses.
Clinton is behind O8's back during the campaign and Bush is just hiding
somewhere in Texas and is not supporting his own party leader. Collin Powell
, one of Bush's powerful closed ally republicans, supports O8.
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Republicans have the courage to say Bush Jr. lied about Iraq and not vote
: for him.
: Do Democrats have the enough brain power to realize that O8 have wasted 4
: critical 4 years and should step down?
|
i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 26 I think we both agreed that O8 had spent a lot of money in the last 4 years,
but do you actually think the economy is now back on track!?
There are a number of options/programs in the past 4 years that O8 would
have done to get this economy going again and he didn't do it. Period.
Not sure what your reference on Collin Power is for. 90% of blacks (
including many republicans) supports O8 regardless what he did or didn't do.
the
financial
and
into
money
Powell
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: O8 didn't waste 4 years, actually I think he did pretty good job to keep the
: economy stable. It was TERRIBLE when Bush stepped down. The whole financial
: system was just frozen. If the government didn't step in, it could be a
: disaster. The Fed chairman Ben Bernanke is an expert in financial crisis and
: he studies the great depression with his whole life. In great recession,
: the government needs to SPEND a lot of money to bring the economy back into
: track. And the government needs to borrow, if they can't collect a lot money
: from desperate citizens/businesses.
: Clinton is behind O8's back during the campaign and Bush is just hiding
: somewhere in Texas and is not supporting his own party leader. Collin Powell
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 27 If it doesn't get worst, that means at least it's stable. It's all about the
level of your expectation. What number of options he had? Everyone in the
public only knows the amount of debt the country takes, but if you know and
agree with Keynesian economics and the components of GDP by expenditure,
there isn't any other good choices when consumption is low, investment is
low and net export is low, you only have one choice which is government
spending. Giving some background about GDP:
GDP (Y) is a sum of Consumption (C), Investment (I), Government Spending (G)
and Net Exports (X – M).
Y = C + I + G + (X − M)
I am glad I still remember these stuff.
Collin Powell is more conservative than Bush, what you are thinking is he
can give up his conservative believes over his race? OK, Bloomberg, he's a
Jew and once a republican, and he supports O8. Bush is white and republican
, does he endorse Romney?
years,
do.
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: I think we both agreed that O8 had spent a lot of money in the last 4 years,
: but do you actually think the economy is now back on track!?
: There are a number of options/programs in the past 4 years that O8 would
: have done to get this economy going again and he didn't do it. Period.
: Not sure what your reference on Collin Power is for. 90% of blacks (
: including many republicans) supports O8 regardless what he did or didn't do.
:
: the
: financial
: and
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 28 can you think straight and tell the difference between fact and opinion?
Bush lied about WMD is a fact, any ppl regardless of party should agree with
it.
Obama's performance is opinion, ppl always have different opinion.
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Republicans have the courage to say Bush Jr. lied about Iraq and not vote
: for him.
: Do Democrats have the enough brain power to realize that O8 have wasted 4
: critical 4 years and should step down?
|
l***c
发帖数: 1634 | 29 你怎么跟他说Macroeconomics了？
他像懂经济的人吗？
他的逻辑很简单：我交的税有一部分是给穷人黑人。 穷人黑人不干活凭什么拿我的钱
？就让他们饿死算了。
the
and
G)
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: If it doesn't get worst, that means at least it's stable. It's all about the
: level of your expectation. What number of options he had? Everyone in the
: public only knows the amount of debt the country takes, but if you know and
: agree with Keynesian economics and the components of GDP by expenditure,
: there isn't any other good choices when consumption is low, investment is
: low and net export is low, you only have one choice which is government
: spending. Giving some background about GDP:
: GDP (Y) is a sum of Consumption (C), Investment (I), Government Spending (G)
: and Net Exports (X – M).
: Y = C + I + G + (X − M)
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i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 30 Since you want to talk facts, here are some facts:
1) Unemployment is 7.9% last month - O8 says he would not seek reelection if
it was not down to 5.2%.
2) There are now over 46 million on food stamps and that number is not
getting lower. BTW, to the moron that thinks we are against food stamp, we
want to create jobs so people don't need food stamp, not that we shouldn't
give
it to the ones that need it.
The fact is that the middle class is hurting, and O8 wants to squeeze more
out of it.
If you consider that a job well done, then you should start thinking (
straight or not - just use your brain).
with
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
: can you think straight and tell the difference between fact and opinion?
: Bush lied about WMD is a fact, any ppl regardless of party should agree with
: it.
: Obama's performance is opinion, ppl always have different opinion.
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i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 31 If the economy is so stable, why did the Fed push out QE3?
Here is a quick list of things he could have done to improve the economy and
didn't do:
1) Give incentive to have natural gas stations replacing traditional gas
station - see your note on net export
2) Instead of giving money to home buyers that gamble on real estate and
lost, build & fix the infrastructure. Also, a few high speed train lines
would be a good start.
3) Instead of pumping money to solar companies that are going bankrupt,
invest in real alternative energy source - isn't a little more research
better than just handing out money?
4) Do away with Obamacare so small business can start hiring again.
JMHO.
the
and
G)
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: If it doesn't get worst, that means at least it's stable. It's all about the
: level of your expectation. What number of options he had? Everyone in the
: public only knows the amount of debt the country takes, but if you know and
: agree with Keynesian economics and the components of GDP by expenditure,
: there isn't any other good choices when consumption is low, investment is
: low and net export is low, you only have one choice which is government
: spending. Giving some background about GDP:
: GDP (Y) is a sum of Consumption (C), Investment (I), Government Spending (G)
: and Net Exports (X – M).
: Y = C + I + G + (X − M)
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l***c
发帖数: 1634 | 32 u are for a big government, buddy. and u are voting for republician?
apparently u dont.know.jack
and
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: If the economy is so stable, why did the Fed push out QE3?
: Here is a quick list of things he could have done to improve the economy and
: didn't do:
: 1) Give incentive to have natural gas stations replacing traditional gas
: station - see your note on net export
: 2) Instead of giving money to home buyers that gamble on real estate and
: lost, build & fix the infrastructure. Also, a few high speed train lines
: would be a good start.
: 3) Instead of pumping money to solar companies that are going bankrupt,
: invest in real alternative energy source - isn't a little more research
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i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 33 Jack went down with the Titanic. You should join him.
【在 l***c 的大作中提到】
: u are for a big government, buddy. and u are voting for republician?
: apparently u dont.know.jack
:
: and
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l***c
发帖数: 1634 | 34 who are u to say who deserves and who doesnt deserve food stamp?
u are not against food stamp but u want to do away with it?
on economics, what make u think romney can do a better job?
if
we
give
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Since you want to talk facts, here are some facts:
: 1) Unemployment is 7.9% last month - O8 says he would not seek reelection if
: it was not down to 5.2%.
: 2) There are now over 46 million on food stamps and that number is not
: getting lower. BTW, to the moron that thinks we are against food stamp, we
: want to create jobs so people don't need food stamp, not that we shouldn't
: give
: it to the ones that need it.
: The fact is that the middle class is hurting, and O8 wants to squeeze more
: out of it.
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 35 It's not about the poor/rich, but these facts that I just can't agree.
1. Republicans control NRA, and make a lot of profits from selling guns.
2. Republicans pro-military, look at the spending on military, it costs a
lot more than other sub-categories that they want to eliminate, especially
education. I believe a lot of parents want their kids to get great education
here. The worst is that they started war because of they want to control
oil. You never seen American go to wars in Africa.
3. They want to drill oil from Mexico gulf and Alaska so that they don't
need oil from middle east. But they don't want to invest in alternative
energy sources. 中国人说： 兔子不吃窝边草。 you know why.
4. Abortions. Even a woman is raped and she's pregnant but she can't abort.
A powerful republican clearly said that. Because they are so deep into their
religions and saying that's god's will. Do you agree with that? As many of
the Chinese are atheist, we just don't agree with that.
5. Personally, did you buy a house during 2008-2010 to get the 8K credit? or
install any of the energy efficient appliances for tax deduction?
6. How did the O8's policies hurt you in the pass four years?
if
we
give
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Since you want to talk facts, here are some facts:
: 1) Unemployment is 7.9% last month - O8 says he would not seek reelection if
: it was not down to 5.2%.
: 2) There are now over 46 million on food stamps and that number is not
: getting lower. BTW, to the moron that thinks we are against food stamp, we
: want to create jobs so people don't need food stamp, not that we shouldn't
: give
: it to the ones that need it.
: The fact is that the middle class is hurting, and O8 wants to squeeze more
: out of it.
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 36 Also, voters understand that there will be lots of unpredictables in the
future. Different situation will lead to different policies. President will
be advised with completely different strategies, but it is eventually up to
the president himself to make the decision. his decision relies largely on
his own personality. no matter how one person can act and hide his true self
from others, there will always be some sensible grannies or low IQ common
people who can detect a decent man from a liar. voters can believe obama to
be a man with a bottom line, but they cannot see the same in romney. |
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 37 1. on net export, that's the point Romney is saying about: crack down China,
because the trade imbalance is so big and make the US net export loss is
huge.
2. high speed train model doesn't work in the US, how much is the air ticket
from NYC to DC?? If the high speed train ticket is cost more than air
ticket, which one do you choose?
and
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: If the economy is so stable, why did the Fed push out QE3?
: Here is a quick list of things he could have done to improve the economy and
: didn't do:
: 1) Give incentive to have natural gas stations replacing traditional gas
: station - see your note on net export
: 2) Instead of giving money to home buyers that gamble on real estate and
: lost, build & fix the infrastructure. Also, a few high speed train lines
: would be a good start.
: 3) Instead of pumping money to solar companies that are going bankrupt,
: invest in real alternative energy source - isn't a little more research
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i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 38 Again, you are voting for O8 based on party line, not giving a fair judgment
on his performance of the last 4 years.
The things you note below (i.e. abortion, control of NRA, etc..) is for
extreme cases which both parties have. The abortion issue has more to do
with when you judge a baby (in the mommy's tommy or after it is born) is
consider a living being and need to be protected. As for gun control, we
believe the right to bear arms because the government is not able to take
the guns away from the bad guys - sadly the gun law proposed so far would
only take away guns from law abiding citizens.
Don't know about you, but the only benefit that I got from O8 is the 2%
payroll tax cut on social security. And guess what, unless you intend to
leave America in the near future, those handouts that he gave will be paid
by you and me.
education
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: It's not about the poor/rich, but these facts that I just can't agree.
: 1. Republicans control NRA, and make a lot of profits from selling guns.
: 2. Republicans pro-military, look at the spending on military, it costs a
: lot more than other sub-categories that they want to eliminate, especially
: education. I believe a lot of parents want their kids to get great education
: here. The worst is that they started war because of they want to control
: oil. You never seen American go to wars in Africa.
: 3. They want to drill oil from Mexico gulf and Alaska so that they don't
: need oil from middle east. But they don't want to invest in alternative
: energy sources. 中国人说： 兔子不吃窝边草。 you know why.
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i*****g
发帖数: 2564 | 39 1- He blames the trade imbalance on high FX rate for RMB vs. USD. Typical U
.S. politician not taken into account of the cheap labor cost.
2- Are you saying that if given a choice of high speed train (for the same
price if not lower), you would still go to the airport to take the shuttle?
BTW, why limit the train from NYC to DC only? Also, I am talking about
real high speed trains not just fast trains.
China,
ticket
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 1. on net export, that's the point Romney is saying about: crack down China,
: because the trade imbalance is so big and make the US net export loss is
: huge.
: 2. high speed train model doesn't work in the US, how much is the air ticket
: from NYC to DC?? If the high speed train ticket is cost more than air
: ticket, which one do you choose?
:
: and
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 40 Now you know why Bloomberg left Republican party, if you don't agree with
their principles, you just can't convince yourself as part of their group.
Money wise, if you check out how much they spend in the war in Iraq per day,
you won't even mention about those $ back to the people living here.
judgment
we
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: Again, you are voting for O8 based on party line, not giving a fair judgment
: on his performance of the last 4 years.
: The things you note below (i.e. abortion, control of NRA, etc..) is for
: extreme cases which both parties have. The abortion issue has more to do
: with when you judge a baby (in the mommy's tommy or after it is born) is
: consider a living being and need to be protected. As for gun control, we
: believe the right to bear arms because the government is not able to take
: the guns away from the bad guys - sadly the gun law proposed so far would
: only take away guns from law abiding citizens.
: Don't know about you, but the only benefit that I got from O8 is the 2%
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l***c
发帖数: 1634 | 41 obama did propose high speed train from new york to florida and new york to
chicago.
guess who killed it?
U
?
【在 i*****g 的大作中提到】
: 1- He blames the trade imbalance on high FX rate for RMB vs. USD. Typical U
: .S. politician not taken into account of the cheap labor cost.
: 2- Are you saying that if given a choice of high speed train (for the same
: price if not lower), you would still go to the airport to take the shuttle?
: BTW, why limit the train from NYC to DC only? Also, I am talking about
: real high speed trains not just fast trains.
:
: China,
: ticket
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