b***n
发帖数: 1210 | 1 不是原创, 翻译自本人最崇拜的数据男
对细节没兴趣的不用看, 本文中只提到OU一次, 还是最后. 谢谢
2002 Preseason, ND没排名, 2012 也是一样.
2002 一场比赛之后, ND爬到23, 2012年, 22.
2002 2场比赛之后, #20, 2012年: 也是#20
都是打锅炉工, 第四节都是17-17, 02年靠一个Pick Six(谢谢你Kyle Orton)赢得比赛(
24-17, 另外还仗了2个fumble return TD); 12年靠最后一脚飞狗送Purdue回家.
2002, 第三场比赛对#7 Michigan, 胜了之后升至#10; 2012, 对#10 MSU, 胜了之后也
升至#10
2002, 第4场比赛客场对MSU, 主力QB受伤, 外加比分落后, Walk-on 最后神来一扔, 竟
然赢了; 2012, 对Michigan, 主力QB由于是新人吓得有点腿软, 靠超级替补干掉对手.
2002, 4场比赛之后, ND上了SI封面, 2012, 也是一样
2002年横扫B10是9年以来第一次, 2012, 10年以来第一次
2002, 2012,都是4场之后bye week
2002年10月, ND半场3-7落后Stanford, 下半场翻盘; 2012年10月, ND半场3-10落后
Stanford, 下半场翻盘
2002年10月, 当年第一次BCS排名, ND第五, 2012年, 还是第五
2002年10月, ND使出吃奶的劲才力克山西球队AFA (21-14, 其实那年人排名不低的);
2012年10月, ND反败为胜前山西球队BYU(17-14)
2002年10月26日, #5 ND(作为double digit下狗)访问FSU, 酋长在之前的89场主场里只
输过5场,专家普遍认为纸老虎终于要现形了.
2012年10月27日, #5 ND(作为double digit下狗)访问OU, Sooners在之前的83场主场里
只输4场,专家普遍认为纸老虎终于要现形了.
2002年那场, ND对FSU上来就搞了个34-10...
2012年, .............................. | c**********o
发帖数: 1941 | | g*********d
发帖数: 8125 | 3 34-10 ND over OU!!!
NCAA want to see BAMA vs ND
OU fans take a shower and sleep la.
赛(
【在 b***n 的大作中提到】
: 不是原创, 翻译自本人最崇拜的数据男
: 对细节没兴趣的不用看, 本文中只提到OU一次, 还是最后. 谢谢
: 2002 Preseason, ND没排名, 2012 也是一样.
: 2002 一场比赛之后, ND爬到23, 2012年, 22.
: 2002 2场比赛之后, #20, 2012年: 也是#20
: 都是打锅炉工, 第四节都是17-17, 02年靠一个Pick Six(谢谢你Kyle Orton)赢得比赛(
: 24-17, 另外还仗了2个fumble return TD); 12年靠最后一脚飞狗送Purdue回家.
: 2002, 第三场比赛对#7 Michigan, 胜了之后升至#10; 2012, 对#10 MSU, 胜了之后也
: 升至#10
: 2002, 第4场比赛客场对MSU, 主力QB受伤, 外加比分落后, Walk-on 最后神来一扔, 竟
| b***n
发帖数: 1210 | 4 别这么酸吗, 02年后来崩盘了, 输BC, USC, 最后Gator碗吧, 大概, 被菲小河完爆
【在 g*********d 的大作中提到】
: 34-10 ND over OU!!!
: NCAA want to see BAMA vs ND
: OU fans take a shower and sleep la.
:
: 赛(
| s****h
发帖数: 3979 | 5 瞧瞧，瞧瞧！人家这正大光明的！
凭什么我鳄鱼饭YY就有人鄙视？
可怜我鳄fan的这些年的YY都是老茶杯--泛苦的悲剧。
想想当年还有YY 3负鳄鱼进NCG的，想想现在的大好形势，不让我们YY，你们有没有点
同情心？ | i***b
发帖数: 161 | 6 我来YY一把，shutout UGA，黑老大当场被愤怒的球迷storm入场殴打吐血。
在他啦哈希比赛前，Jimbo偷偷和Muschamp说看在大家都是Saban弟子和去年让你免遭尴
尬的份上手下留情，于是gator小胜fsu。
NCG对上干掉了巴马的LSU，老虎球员一想到十月初那场沼泽之战和惨败的SECCG，腿都
软了，我鳄顺利从迈阿密捧回了第四个水晶球。
比赛结束后甘城成了欢乐的海洋，众多WSN纷纷借机向小留女神表白，Muschamp携诸1st
round senior加盟NFL，Brent Pease扶正，五星球员纷纷commit我鳄，Urban Meyer抱
着半残的Miller痛哭。
【在 s****h 的大作中提到】
: 瞧瞧，瞧瞧！人家这正大光明的！
: 凭什么我鳄鱼饭YY就有人鄙视？
: 可怜我鳄fan的这些年的YY都是老茶杯--泛苦的悲剧。
: 想想当年还有YY 3负鳄鱼进NCG的，想想现在的大好形势，不让我们YY，你们有没有点
: 同情心？
| s****h
发帖数: 3979 | 7 你这YY得太不负责任了。
！！！
1st
【在 i***b 的大作中提到】
: 我来YY一把，shutout UGA，黑老大当场被愤怒的球迷storm入场殴打吐血。
: 在他啦哈希比赛前，Jimbo偷偷和Muschamp说看在大家都是Saban弟子和去年让你免遭尴
: 尬的份上手下留情，于是gator小胜fsu。
: NCG对上干掉了巴马的LSU，老虎球员一想到十月初那场沼泽之战和惨败的SECCG，腿都
: 软了，我鳄顺利从迈阿密捧回了第四个水晶球。
: 比赛结束后甘城成了欢乐的海洋，众多WSN纷纷借机向小留女神表白，Muschamp携诸1st
: round senior加盟NFL，Brent Pease扶正，五星球员纷纷commit我鳄，Urban Meyer抱
: 着半残的Miller痛哭。
| w******e
发帖数: 1621 | | B****0
发帖数: 283 | 9 文笔很不错。就是历来两强同年二次相遇，都是对半分。紫老虎窝着多大的火啊？要是
他们真Nov3斩了大象，亚特兰大的菠菜一定给紫老虎。
1st
【在 i***b 的大作中提到】
: 我来YY一把，shutout UGA，黑老大当场被愤怒的球迷storm入场殴打吐血。
: 在他啦哈希比赛前，Jimbo偷偷和Muschamp说看在大家都是Saban弟子和去年让你免遭尴
: 尬的份上手下留情，于是gator小胜fsu。
: NCG对上干掉了巴马的LSU，老虎球员一想到十月初那场沼泽之战和惨败的SECCG，腿都
: 软了，我鳄顺利从迈阿密捧回了第四个水晶球。
: 比赛结束后甘城成了欢乐的海洋，众多WSN纷纷借机向小留女神表白，Muschamp携诸1st
: round senior加盟NFL，Brent Pease扶正，五星球员纷纷commit我鳄，Urban Meyer抱
: 着半残的Miller痛哭。
| B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 10 说起你们对OU最耀眼的成就,
还是在50年代他们那个前无古人后无来者的47场连胜,
一前一后, 都是输给了圣母, ND NB.
赛(
【在 b***n 的大作中提到】
: 不是原创, 翻译自本人最崇拜的数据男
: 对细节没兴趣的不用看, 本文中只提到OU一次, 还是最后. 谢谢
: 2002 Preseason, ND没排名, 2012 也是一样.
: 2002 一场比赛之后, ND爬到23, 2012年, 22.
: 2002 2场比赛之后, #20, 2012年: 也是#20
: 都是打锅炉工, 第四节都是17-17, 02年靠一个Pick Six(谢谢你Kyle Orton)赢得比赛(
: 24-17, 另外还仗了2个fumble return TD); 12年靠最后一脚飞狗送Purdue回家.
: 2002, 第三场比赛对#7 Michigan, 胜了之后升至#10; 2012, 对#10 MSU, 胜了之后也
: 升至#10
: 2002, 第4场比赛客场对MSU, 主力QB受伤, 外加比分落后, Walk-on 最后神来一扔, 竟
| | | A**u
发帖数: 701 | 11 从第3场开始我就觉得今年的ND和02年的十分相似
如果真的赢了OU，那么正好和02年一样，再下一场输BC
ND前两场已经够有运气了，估计rp已然用光，周六被OU完爆 | b***n
发帖数: 1210 | 12 恩, 我知道你老一直把这个挂在嘴边的, 50年代我们不强, 但是搞了这个算是留名了.
51年到58年OU输了共3场比赛, 都是给ND的, 中间夹了个那个47场.
左臂刻1941.12.7, 右边刻1957.11.16的不在少数.
今天看新闻, 说有的人因为此不给里根投票, 还有人恨Lindsay Nelson...
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
: 说起你们对OU最耀眼的成就,
: 还是在50年代他们那个前无古人后无来者的47场连胜,
: 一前一后, 都是输给了圣母, ND NB.
:
: 赛(
| A**u
发帖数: 701 | 13 02年的时候ND赢FSU就是靠大概2分钟之内连抓对方几个turnover，快速得分，奠定胜局
。但是第4节被FSU连得两个TD，防守漏洞被人看得一清二楚，后面的比赛就不照了
今年的ND在上一场比赛中，已经被BYU指出了防守的致命弱点，第二节连丢两个TD，估
计OU的进攻教练会把ND的这个弱点发扬光大的 | A**u
发帖数: 701 | 14 这种事ND还干过一次，UCLA的88场连胜，也是ND站在两头
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball_winning_streaks
【在 b***n 的大作中提到】
: 恩, 我知道你老一直把这个挂在嘴边的, 50年代我们不强, 但是搞了这个算是留名了.
: 51年到58年OU输了共3场比赛, 都是给ND的, 中间夹了个那个47场.
: 左臂刻1941.12.7, 右边刻1957.11.16的不在少数.
: 今天看新闻, 说有的人因为此不给里根投票, 还有人恨Lindsay Nelson...
| d*****1
发帖数: 1837 | | b******l
发帖数: 758 | 16 OU-Notre Dame: Ire for the Irish — Why Oklahoma fans hate Notre Dame
Bill Saxon and his family drove home in the rain on Nov. 17, 1957, on the
lonely roads from Norman to Abilene, Texas, in those pre-turnpike days.
The 1951 OU graduate later would become a successful oil man. But in 1957,
Saxon sold drilling bits in the Texas oil fields. He lived in one of those
tract housing neighborhoods built for returning GIs.
That evening, an exhausted Saxon pulled up to his house, and there on the
door of his one-car garage, in dripping red paint, proclaimed the news from
the day before.
Irish 7, OU 0.
Fifty-five years later, Saxon still doesn't know who painted the score on
his garage. But he knows the team that inspired such vandalism.
Notre Dame ended OU's 47-game winning streak. And generations of Sooner fans
, some of whom were born after Nov. 16, 1957, haven't forgiven the Fighting
Irish.
Said Saxon, “We never liked 'em after that.”
* *
Jack Laffoon says he never voted for Ronald Reagan, not because of politics,
but because Reagan portrayed Notre Dame star George Gipp in “Knute Rockne,
All American.”
“I still remember my mother crying on that dark fall afternoon in 1957,”
said Laffoon, then a Tulsa grade schooler and now a retired Air Force man
living in Corinth, Texas. “A bunch of papist hooligans had stolen the game
from the mighty Sooners.”
Most college football powers invoke negative passion from other fan bases.
Notre Dame invokes more than most.
Long before The Longhorn Network was anything but a gleam in DeLoss Dodds'
eye, the Fighting Irish had their own NBC contract, first signed when the
Irish broke ranks with the College Football Association.
The much-maligned Bowl Championship Series makes special provisions for only
one school, Notre Dame.
Notre Dame's storied history has fostered decades of hype around a program
that once deserved it but no longer does.
So fans from Alabama and Ohio State and Texas muster plenty of resentment
concerning the Irish.
But OU fans have a particular bone to pick with Notre Dame.
The Irish rained on Camelot. They beat the Sooners 7-0 in 1957 at Owen Field
to end an epic winning streak. And in the five OU-Notre Dame games since,
the Sooners have not exacted revenge, having lost in 1961, 1962, 1966, 1968
and 1999.
Now the Sooners get another shot. They host Notre Dame on Saturday night,
the Irish's first visit to Norman in 46 years.
OU student Trevor Rogers, who was born 35 years after Notre Dame's historic
upset, credits his hatred of the Irish to his grandfather, who was a Marine
stationed in Okinawa, Japan, when the streak ended.
“He has recounted the story hundreds of times to me,” Rogers said. “I can
recite his account of what happened, where he watched, who he watched with,
what he ate and, I can do so with the same expressions and mannerisms he
displays when telling the story.
“That story has been ingrained into my DNA. I was raised to hate them, and
now I'm old enough to see the truth. Truth is, Notre Dame doesn't deserve
the recognition this day in football.”
* *
It's not like the Sooners dominated Notre Dame before 1957. OU thrashed the
Irish 40-0 in 1956, but the Sooners had lost to Notre Dame in 1952 and 1953.
In fact, between Oct. 13, 1951, and Oct. 11, 1958, OU lost three games. All
to Notre Dame.
Call it a hate-hate relationship Sooner fans have with the Golden Domers.
“Hate is a little too strong, but let's go with I am intensely interested
in the Sooners cleaning their clock,” said Richard Luttrell of Richardson,
Texas. “I'm a little too young to remember Nov. 16, 1957, but that date was
tattooed in my brain by my parents just like Dec. 7, 1941 — another day of
infamy.”
Luttrell might reject the concept of hate, but Oklahoma City School Board
member Phil Horning does not.
“That about captures it,” said Horning. “I was raised in Norman, and I
saw both those losses that book ended our 47-game streak. I simply never
forgave them.”
Horning plans to be in Norman on Saturday.
“I'll be there,” said Horning, the father of Norman Transcript sports
editor Clay Horning. “I want us to crush ‘em.”
Phil Horning echoed the memories of OU fans now 55 years strong, how
everyone in Memorial Stadium sat silent, seemingly unable to leave their
seats or believe that they had just seen the Sooners lose that 1957 game.
“Nobody could believe it,” Horning said. “It was terrible. Just dead
silence. I was about 16 years old, I was 6-feet tall, and I went home crying
like a baby.”
* *
Michael Irwin is a senior cash manager for ExxonMobil Corporation in Dallas.
He grew up an OU fan in upstate New York.
Irwin still can recite his access to the Sooners in the pre-Internet days of
the 1970s.
One or two televised games per season. Fifteen to 30 seconds of highlights
each Saturday during the Prudential College Scoreboard Show with Dave Diles.
Three lines of type and a box score in the Sunday paper.
“Do you remember what the Notre Dame fans had?” Irwin asked. “A one-hour
… replay hosted by Lindsey Nelson every Sunday morning! Aaaarrrrrrrgh!!!!”
Irwin said he's embarrassed that the jealousy, “born of youth,” continues
to color his perception even though he now has virtually unlimited access to
Sooner football.
“I still hope the Irish lose every week,” he said.
The truth is, the Irish inspire passion all across America. Positive and
negative. And that certain game in 1957 ignites the feelings of Sooner fans
even more so.
Laffoon, who remembers the tears of his mother, waxes eloquently about his
venom toward the Irish.
“The tears were not for the loss of a game alone,” Laffoon said. “The
tears were also for the perceived loss of respect our homeplace had suffered.
“The streak brought respect to a state devastated by the Dust Bowl and
besmirched by Steinbeck's portrayal of Okies … for 47 games, we were the
kings of the world.
“That was gone, wiped out, never to return and never to be repeated. I had
no choice but to instantly despise them and all of their ilk.”
Read more: http://newsok.com/ou-notre-dame-ire-for-the-irish-why-oklahoma-fans-hate-notre-dame/article/3721301#ixzz2A3INQeLI | A**u
发帖数: 701 | | o****3
发帖数: 5100 | 18 Hate doesn't give you a win.
We want OU to win but you have to acknolewdge that ND is a great team with
an excellent coach. They have the 2nd best defense in the country, lopsided
winning records against OU, and that 10 year story.
from
【在 b******l 的大作中提到】
: OU-Notre Dame: Ire for the Irish — Why Oklahoma fans hate Notre Dame
: Bill Saxon and his family drove home in the rain on Nov. 17, 1957, on the
: lonely roads from Norman to Abilene, Texas, in those pre-turnpike days.
: The 1951 OU graduate later would become a successful oil man. But in 1957,
: Saxon sold drilling bits in the Texas oil fields. He lived in one of those
: tract housing neighborhoods built for returning GIs.
: That evening, an exhausted Saxon pulled up to his house, and there on the
: door of his one-car garage, in dripping red paint, proclaimed the news from
: the day before.
: Irish 7, OU 0.
| l*****y
发帖数: 4887 | 19 呃
是说现在要开始whine我们主场要被Pitts羞辱？
还是说赛季最后会耻辱的被USC在西海岸打爆？
今年去不了BCS是去不了Gator那样的大bowl的
我宁愿输给OU吧，也比最后被USC打爆强，
早输早好，其实现在防守问题不少的，赢球就靠一口气
要防守搞不出来当年神奇的第三节，
或者哪怕搞出来得太早
都很可能输给懒得理穷死
赛(
【在 b***n 的大作中提到】
: 不是原创, 翻译自本人最崇拜的数据男
: 对细节没兴趣的不用看, 本文中只提到OU一次, 还是最后. 谢谢
: 2002 Preseason, ND没排名, 2012 也是一样.
: 2002 一场比赛之后, ND爬到23, 2012年, 22.
: 2002 2场比赛之后, #20, 2012年: 也是#20
: 都是打锅炉工, 第四节都是17-17, 02年靠一个Pick Six(谢谢你Kyle Orton)赢得比赛(
: 24-17, 另外还仗了2个fumble return TD); 12年靠最后一脚飞狗送Purdue回家.
: 2002, 第三场比赛对#7 Michigan, 胜了之后升至#10; 2012, 对#10 MSU, 胜了之后也
: 升至#10
: 2002, 第4场比赛客场对MSU, 主力QB受伤, 外加比分落后, Walk-on 最后神来一扔, 竟
| b***n
发帖数: 1210 | 20 不是这个意思, 历史不会重复的那么完美.
对OU还真不一定输. 现在的跑攻越来越可靠了, 尤其是到了最后几分钟拼内力的时候.
要的就是从头跑到尾, OU的前7看看那时顶不顶得住.
下狗又怎么样, WV是7分的上狗吧, 差不多最后输了7个TD...
【在 l*****y 的大作中提到】
: 呃
: 是说现在要开始whine我们主场要被Pitts羞辱？
: 还是说赛季最后会耻辱的被USC在西海岸打爆？
: 今年去不了BCS是去不了Gator那样的大bowl的
: 我宁愿输给OU吧，也比最后被USC打爆强，
: 早输早好，其实现在防守问题不少的，赢球就靠一口气
: 要防守搞不出来当年神奇的第三节，
: 或者哪怕搞出来得太早
: 都很可能输给懒得理穷死
:
| l*****y
发帖数: 4887 | 21 今年进攻什么样子大家都知道，
就是ground and pound
上半场一般跑不出来，等下半场人家累了才行
如果人家进攻时间长，防守休息得好，就没戏
扔球么，有能耐接的就一个半，Eifert是一个，Jones是半个
剩下全是废柴/半成品
上了Golson和Rees差别不大，Rees能多扔给Eifert几个
Golson能偶尔自己一跑
担心的是我们的防守
这两场感觉对手已经差不多搞明白我们防守怎么回事了
技术上说，大部分时间是4-man rush
所谓强，是DL上两侧运动能力强，中间胖子力量爆发力强
所谓变化，也就是除了DL上三个，另外一个push rush的方向
所谓今年的进步，就是其他LB的pass coverage意识
所以如果有pass protection能力强的TE/FB/RB帮忙pickup最后一个pass rush
能让WR有时间downfield，造成和二线的直接对抗
比赛就难看了
特别是如果QB有经验，能够找第二乃至第三目标
能够扔比较准的找到one on one
那就完了
.
【在 b***n 的大作中提到】
: 不是这个意思, 历史不会重复的那么完美.
: 对OU还真不一定输. 现在的跑攻越来越可靠了, 尤其是到了最后几分钟拼内力的时候.
: 要的就是从头跑到尾, OU的前7看看那时顶不顶得住.
: 下狗又怎么样, WV是7分的上狗吧, 差不多最后输了7个TD...
| o****3
发帖数: 5100 | 22 Good analysis. Eifert is probably counted as one and a half, maybe two. I
don't think we can cover him one on one.
ND probably wants to wear down OU by running through the throat and keep the
game close.
On defense, ND will try to use their front four to pressure Landre Jones who
tends to get rattled when pressured.If ND can do this, OU will be in a long
night. It is basically our O-Line vs ND's D-Line.
【在 l*****y 的大作中提到】
: 今年进攻什么样子大家都知道，
: 就是ground and pound
: 上半场一般跑不出来，等下半场人家累了才行
: 如果人家进攻时间长，防守休息得好，就没戏
: 扔球么，有能耐接的就一个半，Eifert是一个，Jones是半个
: 剩下全是废柴/半成品
: 上了Golson和Rees差别不大，Rees能多扔给Eifert几个
: Golson能偶尔自己一跑
: 担心的是我们的防守
: 这两场感觉对手已经差不多搞明白我们防守怎么回事了
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