c***n
发帖数: 314 | | G*********s
发帖数: 6786 | | m****e
发帖数: 255 | 3 Common senses tell us that JP and school officials knew something about the
crime long time ago. The inaction is enough to put them all away. The crime
is probably 95% factual but the cover-up revealed in the report is debatable
. Given the investigator's track record, I do think the report is unbiased.
But like I said earlier, JP and others must know something about the crime
because JS' retirement and the 2002 incident. They chose not to do anything
so they got what they deserved.
Again, it is easier to say than to do. If you were in their shoes, would you
act differently? | B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 4 我们一再听到有人质问"当时要是换了你们, 会怎么做!?"
这有什么难回答的?
我们这些人, 如果还是在草根阶层的, 碰到这种事,
难道还不是赶紧浑身哆嗦的打电话报警?
或者, 上司已经决定报警, 静静跟在后面看热闹就完了,
哪个还敢力排众议说, "不要了罢, 我们自己内部解决就好了"? 哪个敢?
我们这些人, 如果已经到了四大长老级别的最高层, 碰到这种事,
因为骨子里还是猥琐男, 想想自己的乌纱帽, 也会赶紧为自己开脱, 公事公办,
所以, 结果还是一样的: 还是会赶紧报警, 自己就干净了.
所以为PSU辩护的人理直气壮的问, 换了你, 会做不一样的事?
答案是 OF COURSE!! 倒不是因为我们比这四大长老更勇敢, 更正义,
而就是因为我们没他们那么胆大包天.
you
【在 m****e 的大作中提到】
: Common senses tell us that JP and school officials knew something about the
: crime long time ago. The inaction is enough to put them all away. The crime
: is probably 95% factual but the cover-up revealed in the report is debatable
: . Given the investigator's track record, I do think the report is unbiased.
: But like I said earlier, JP and others must know something about the crime
: because JS' retirement and the 2002 incident. They chose not to do anything
: so they got what they deserved.
: Again, it is easier to say than to do. If you were in their shoes, would you
: act differently?
| m****e
发帖数: 255 | 5 Again. Only presumption no facts.
To be in their shoe means you will have a lot of baggage. It is easier to
say than to do. Have you watched Rice on MSNBC? Do you think she cheated the
whole world about WMD along with Bush and other? Truth is never simple and
never think you can do better than the others before you have done it.
I do not support JP or anyone at PSU on this matter and I do not think that
their actions or inactions are justified. But based on your response, you
are biased as well. | c***n
发帖数: 314 | 6 他临死才退休会不会是因为这个吧?
另外那个搞男童的到底跟他什么关系,能眼睁睁的看着搞这么多年也没动作?
【在 G*********s 的大作中提到】
: 捂盖子
| m****e
发帖数: 255 | 7 I do not think JP and others knew exactly what JS did. But they did know
enough to start a formal investigation. Otherwise it is hard to explain JS'
retirement in 1998 and hard to explain why JS was banned from bringing boys
onto the main campus in 2002. These are strong signals retrospectively. | b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 8 都是说的轻巧，我肯定一身正气报告了。你拍照了吗？录音了？没有的话，警察，学校
领导信你还是信sandusky? 你愿意打一个libel官司吗？
the
and
that
【在 m****e 的大作中提到】
: Again. Only presumption no facts.
: To be in their shoe means you will have a lot of baggage. It is easier to
: say than to do. Have you watched Rice on MSNBC? Do you think she cheated the
: whole world about WMD along with Bush and other? Truth is never simple and
: never think you can do better than the others before you have done it.
: I do not support JP or anyone at PSU on this matter and I do not think that
: their actions or inactions are justified. But based on your response, you
: are biased as well.
| l*********U
发帖数: 210 | 9 扯蛋，都报警，密大也没那个丑闻了。
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
: 我们一再听到有人质问"当时要是换了你们, 会怎么做!?"
: 这有什么难回答的?
: 我们这些人, 如果还是在草根阶层的, 碰到这种事,
: 难道还不是赶紧浑身哆嗦的打电话报警?
: 或者, 上司已经决定报警, 静静跟在后面看热闹就完了,
: 哪个还敢力排众议说, "不要了罢, 我们自己内部解决就好了"? 哪个敢?
: 我们这些人, 如果已经到了四大长老级别的最高层, 碰到这种事,
: 因为骨子里还是猥琐男, 想想自己的乌纱帽, 也会赶紧为自己开脱, 公事公办,
: 所以, 结果还是一样的: 还是会赶紧报警, 自己就干净了.
: 所以为PSU辩护的人理直气壮的问, 换了你, 会做不一样的事?
| g*********d
发帖数: 8125 | 10 怎么说呢，如果密大校医院某医生拍的儿童毛片而且院长校长都知道并决定掩盖事实多
达10年之久前后受害者好几十个，基本上就能和你狮这个事情争争媒体眼球了。
还是那句话，在这种事情上每个人代表的都是自己的立场，没有必要做引申，好像密大
就特别反对你宾洲大似的。搞的你非要把两个magnitude完全不同的事情拉在一起让大
蓝表态。
过去的就过去了。听说你校校长干的不错，本来讨论的是4年ｄｅａｔｈ ｐｅｎａｌｔ
ｙ。如果真的那个样子10年都缓不过来。现在我看4，5年以后又是一条好汉
【在 l*********U 的大作中提到】
: 扯蛋，都报警，密大也没那个丑闻了。
| | | f*******e
发帖数: 280 | 11 这说到点子上了。一个小人物去举报大人物，又拿不出铁证，领导相信谁？再加上警察
的报告认为没什么大事，领导如何决定是明摆着的了。领导还有可能一再追问举报人：
“你肯定吗？”很多举报人这时都会犹豫了。
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 都是说的轻巧，我肯定一身正气报告了。你拍照了吗？录音了？没有的话，警察，学校
: 领导信你还是信sandusky? 你愿意打一个libel官司吗？
:
: the
: and
: that
| r***l
发帖数: 9084 | 12 当初joe和学校高层知道老头有这个问题，但不想公开，就强迫他退休，这个还算是
take了一些action。但退休后sandusky学校还有办公室，还可以使用football设施，领
孩子来侵犯,这个太过分了。
the
crime
debatable
.
anything
you
【在 m****e 的大作中提到】
: Common senses tell us that JP and school officials knew something about the
: crime long time ago. The inaction is enough to put them all away. The crime
: is probably 95% factual but the cover-up revealed in the report is debatable
: . Given the investigator's track record, I do think the report is unbiased.
: But like I said earlier, JP and others must know something about the crime
: because JS' retirement and the 2002 incident. They chose not to do anything
: so they got what they deserved.
: Again, it is easier to say than to do. If you were in their shoes, would you
: act differently?
| b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 13 既然要内部处理不家丑外扬，退休coach的待遇当然要比照其他退休教练。其他教练都有
办公室，可以用fb facility, 光sandusky没有不是不打自招吗。
有告诉sandusky不许带小孩来psu fb吧，他要违反这是sandusky的责任。我记得看了一
下victims, 在fb facility的基本都在98以前。2001出了这个事情后，只有2个victims
, 但都不是在psu facility. 有没有其他没有站出来的victims那就不知道了
【在 r***l 的大作中提到】
: 当初joe和学校高层知道老头有这个问题，但不想公开，就强迫他退休，这个还算是
: take了一些action。但退休后sandusky学校还有办公室，还可以使用football设施，领
: 孩子来侵犯,这个太过分了。
:
: the
: crime
: debatable
: .
: anything
: you
| r***l
发帖数: 9084 | 14 这话要是psu prez公开说...
都有
victims
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 既然要内部处理不家丑外扬，退休coach的待遇当然要比照其他退休教练。其他教练都有
: 办公室，可以用fb facility, 光sandusky没有不是不打自招吗。
: 有告诉sandusky不许带小孩来psu fb吧，他要违反这是sandusky的责任。我记得看了一
: 下victims, 在fb facility的基本都在98以前。2001出了这个事情后，只有2个victims
: , 但都不是在psu facility. 有没有其他没有站出来的victims那就不知道了
| T*********s
发帖数: 2987 | 15 Actively cover up is not inaction.
the
crime
debatable
.
anything
you
【在 m****e 的大作中提到】
: Common senses tell us that JP and school officials knew something about the
: crime long time ago. The inaction is enough to put them all away. The crime
: is probably 95% factual but the cover-up revealed in the report is debatable
: . Given the investigator's track record, I do think the report is unbiased.
: But like I said earlier, JP and others must know something about the crime
: because JS' retirement and the 2002 incident. They chose not to do anything
: so they got what they deserved.
: Again, it is easier to say than to do. If you were in their shoes, would you
: act differently?
| b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 16 那显然被拍死了
【在 r***l 的大作中提到】
: 这话要是psu prez公开说...
:
: 都有
: victims
| Y******e
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