c****K
发帖数: 997 | 1 你如果觉得栾童不那么严重，那么有组织有纪律有学校做依托的进行了30-40年，你还
觉得不严重吗？受害者不敢举报，或者举报了而没有人过问。这是个什么样的社会？
Penn State是个什么样的社会？
http://www.ydr.com/crime/ci_19283230?source=rss
1969—Jerry Sandusky starts his coaching career at Penn State University as
a defensive line coach.
1977—Jerry Sandusky founds The Second Mile. It begins as a group foster
home dedicated to helping troubled boys and grows into a charity dedicated
to helping children with absent or dysfunctional families.
January 1983—Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football'
s national champion for the 1982 season.
January 1987—Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football'
s national champion for the 1986 season.
1994—Boy known as Victim 7 in the report meets Sandusky through The Second
Mile program at about the age of 10.
1994-95—Boy known as Victim 6 meets Sandusky at a Second Mile picnic at
Spring Creek Park when he is 7 or 8 years old.
1995-96—Boy known as Victim 5, meets Sandusky through The Second Mile when
he is 7 or 8, in second or third grade.
1996-97—Boy known as Victim 4, at the age of 12 or 13, meets Sandusky while
he is in his second year participating in The Second Mile program.
1996-98—Victim 5 is taken to the locker rooms and showers at Penn State by
Sandusky when he is 8 to 10 years old.
Jan. 1, 1998—Victim 4 is listed, along with Sandusky's wife, as a member of
Sandusky's family party for the 1998 Outback Bowl.
1998—Victim 6 is taken into the locker rooms and showers when he is 11
years old. When Victim 6 is dropped off at home, his hair is wet from
showering with Sandusky. His mother reports the incident to the university
police, who investigate.
Detective Ronald Schreffler testifies that he and State College Police
Department Detective Ralph Ralston, with the consent of the mother of Victim
6, eavesdrop on two conversations the mother of Victim 6 has with Sandusky.
Sandusky says he has showered with other boys and Victim 6's mother tries
to make Sandusky promise never to shower with a boy again but he will not.
At the end of the second conversation, after Sandusky is told he cannot see
Victim 6 anymore, Schreffler testifies Sandusky says, "I understand. I was
wrong. I wish I could get forgiveness. I know I won't get it from you. I
wish I were dead."
Jerry Lauro, an investigator with the Pennsylvania Department of Public
Welfare, testifies he and Schreffler interviewed Sandusky, and that Sandusky
admits showering naked with Victim 6, admits to hugging Victim 6 while in
the shower and admits that it was wrong.
The case is closed after then-Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar
decides there will be no criminal charge.
June 1999—Sandusky retires from Penn State but still holds emeritus status.
Dec. 28, 1999—Victim 4 is listed, along with Sandusky's wife, as a member
of Sandusky's family party for the 1999 Alamo Bowl.
Summer 2000—Boy known as Victim 3 meets Sandusky through The Second Mile
when he is between seventh and eighth grade.
Fall 2000—A janitor named James Calhoun observes Sandusky in the showers of
the Lasch Football Building with a young boy, known as Victim 8, pinned up
against the wall, performing oral sex on the boy. He tells other janitorial
staff immediately. Fellow Office of Physical Plant employee Ronald Petrosky
cleans the showers at Lasch and sees Sandusky and the boy, who he describes
as being between the ages of 11 and 13.
Calhoun tells other physical plant employees what he saw, including Jay
Witherite, his immediate supervisor. Witherite tells him to whom he should
report the incident. Calhoun was a temporary employee and never makes a
report. Victim 8's identity is unknown.
March 1, 2002—A Penn State graduate assistant enters the locker room
at the Lasch Football Building. In the showers, he sees a naked boy, known
as Victim 2, whose age he estimates to be 10 years old, being subjected to
anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky. The graduate assistant tells his
father immediately.
March 2, 2002—In the morning, the graduate assistant calls Coach Joe
Paterno and goes to Paterno's home, where he reports what he has seen.
March 3, 2002—Paterno calls Tim Curley, Penn State Athletic Director to his
home the next day and reports a version of what the grad assistant had said.
March 2002—Later in the month the graduate assistant is called to a meeting
with Curley and Senior Vice President for Finance and Business Gary Schultz
. The grad assistant reports what he has seen and Curley and Schultz say
they will look into it.
March 27, 2002 (approximate)—The graduate assistant hears from Curley. He
is told that Sandusky's locker room keys are taken away and that the
incident has been reported to The Second Mile. The graduate assistant is
never questioned by university police and no other entity conducts an
investigation until the graduate assistant testifies in Grand Jury in
December 2010.
2005-2006—Boy known as Victim 1 says that meets Sandusky through The Second
Mile at age 11 or 12.
Spring 2007—During the 2007 track season, Sandusky begins spending time
with Victim 1 weekly, having him stay overnight at his residence in College
Township, Pa.
Spring 2008—Termination of contact with Victim 1 occurs when he is a
freshman in a Clinton County high school. After the boy's mother calls the
school to report sexual assault, Sandusky is barred from the school district
attended by Victim 1 from that day forward and the matter is reported to
authorities as mandated by law.
Early 2009—An investigation by the Pennsylvania attorney general begins
when a Clinton County, Pa. teen boy tells authorities that Sandusky has
inappropriately touched him several times over a four-year period.
September 2010—Sandusky retires from day-to-day involvement with The Second
Mile, saying he wants to spend more time with family and handle personal
matters.
Nov. 5, 2011—Sandusky is arrested and released on $100,000 bail after being
arraigned on 40 criminal counts.
Nov. 7, 2011—Pennsylvania Attorney General Linda Kelly says Paterno is not
a target of the investigation into how the school handled the accusations.
But she refuses to say the same for university President Graham Spanier.
Curley and Schultz, who have stepped down from their positions, surrender on
charges that they failed to alert police to complaints against Sandusky. |
l********e
发帖数: 2499 | 2 penn state的少数fan，自己学校出事儿了不feel ashamed，不去反思，先喊we are penn
state，反射弧很独到。 |
m********t
发帖数: 9426 | 3 这也太令人震惊了
他成立的这个program完全就是为了...fz
as
football'
【在 c****K 的大作中提到】
: 你如果觉得栾童不那么严重，那么有组织有纪律有学校做依托的进行了30-40年，你还
: 觉得不严重吗？受害者不敢举报，或者举报了而没有人过问。这是个什么样的社会？
: Penn State是个什么样的社会？
: http://www.ydr.com/crime/ci_19283230?source=rss
: 1969—Jerry Sandusky starts his coaching career at Penn State University as
: a defensive line coach.
: 1977—Jerry Sandusky founds The Second Mile. It begins as a group foster
: home dedicated to helping troubled boys and grows into a charity dedicated
: to helping children with absent or dysfunctional families.
: January 1983—Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football'
|
B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 4 And he legally adopted 6 kids. Holy smoke ...
【在 m********t 的大作中提到】
: 这也太令人震惊了
: 他成立的这个program完全就是为了...fz
:
: as
: football'
|
J********l
发帖数: 988 | 5 those facts indeed disturbing...
as
football'
【在 c****K 的大作中提到】
: 你如果觉得栾童不那么严重，那么有组织有纪律有学校做依托的进行了30-40年，你还
: 觉得不严重吗？受害者不敢举报，或者举报了而没有人过问。这是个什么样的社会？
: Penn State是个什么样的社会？
: http://www.ydr.com/crime/ci_19283230?source=rss
: 1969—Jerry Sandusky starts his coaching career at Penn State University as
: a defensive line coach.
: 1977—Jerry Sandusky founds The Second Mile. It begins as a group foster
: home dedicated to helping troubled boys and grows into a charity dedicated
: to helping children with absent or dysfunctional families.
: January 1983—Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football'
|
m********t
发帖数: 9426 | 6 这事情真的太大了
这比一时冲动犯罪严重多了
psu community为此蒙羞，这个流氓，应该被枪毙
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
: And he legally adopted 6 kids. Holy smoke ...
|
c****e
发帖数: 1984 | 7 看来大伙对这件事对NCAA的影响认识不足啊。 每个football program都要彻查啊。
college football要停两年了 |
c****e
发帖数: 1984 | 8 NCAA是什么样的社会？
as
football'
【在 c****K 的大作中提到】
: 你如果觉得栾童不那么严重，那么有组织有纪律有学校做依托的进行了30-40年，你还
: 觉得不严重吗？受害者不敢举报，或者举报了而没有人过问。这是个什么样的社会？
: Penn State是个什么样的社会？
: http://www.ydr.com/crime/ci_19283230?source=rss
: 1969—Jerry Sandusky starts his coaching career at Penn State University as
: a defensive line coach.
: 1977—Jerry Sandusky founds The Second Mile. It begins as a group foster
: home dedicated to helping troubled boys and grows into a charity dedicated
: to helping children with absent or dysfunctional families.
: January 1983—Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football'
|
o****3
发帖数: 5100 | 9 Joe must go。
我也是第一次读细节，如果这些都是事实的话，那psu简直就是一个黑社会。
不知道这些孩子们有没有父母，他们是不知道，还是不敢报案。
这么多事情，没有的时候什么都没有，一有，就全出来了。
as
football'
【在 c****K 的大作中提到】
: 你如果觉得栾童不那么严重，那么有组织有纪律有学校做依托的进行了30-40年，你还
: 觉得不严重吗？受害者不敢举报，或者举报了而没有人过问。这是个什么样的社会？
: Penn State是个什么样的社会？
: http://www.ydr.com/crime/ci_19283230?source=rss
: 1969—Jerry Sandusky starts his coaching career at Penn State University as
: a defensive line coach.
: 1977—Jerry Sandusky founds The Second Mile. It begins as a group foster
: home dedicated to helping troubled boys and grows into a charity dedicated
: to helping children with absent or dysfunctional families.
: January 1983—Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football'
|
c****e
发帖数: 1984 | 10 psu是个缩影而已，整个NCAA都是黑社会啊
【在 o****3 的大作中提到】
: Joe must go。
: 我也是第一次读细节，如果这些都是事实的话，那psu简直就是一个黑社会。
: 不知道这些孩子们有没有父母，他们是不知道，还是不敢报案。
: 这么多事情，没有的时候什么都没有，一有，就全出来了。
:
: as
: football'
|
|
|
c****K
发帖数: 997 | 11 都出了这样的事情了，还一帮人喊 “we are Penn State".... 的确，只能说
penn state很特别。
JoePa还出门接受学生的拥戴，唉。。这些都会成为penn state今后不愿提起的往事。
【在 m********t 的大作中提到】
: 这事情真的太大了
: 这比一时冲动犯罪严重多了
: psu community为此蒙羞，这个流氓，应该被枪毙
|
m********t
发帖数: 9426 | 12 看了看，这些孩子的家庭都是不完整的
可怜的娃
涉案人员应该终身监禁，然后被黑人....
【在 o****3 的大作中提到】
: Joe must go。
: 我也是第一次读细节，如果这些都是事实的话，那psu简直就是一个黑社会。
: 不知道这些孩子们有没有父母，他们是不知道，还是不敢报案。
: 这么多事情，没有的时候什么都没有，一有，就全出来了。
:
: as
: football'
|
f******o
发帖数: 4689 | 13 说的不错。
【在 J********l 的大作中提到】
: those facts indeed disturbing...
:
: as
: football'
|
m********t
发帖数: 9426 | 14 这么说不好，你不能因为一个人犯罪，就说他全家都是黑社会
当然，这个DC犯罪，也不能说整个psu football program犯罪
【在 c****e 的大作中提到】
: psu是个缩影而已，整个NCAA都是黑社会啊
|
c****e
发帖数: 1984 | 15 我是按他们逻辑说的。
【在 m********t 的大作中提到】
: 这么说不好，你不能因为一个人犯罪，就说他全家都是黑社会
: 当然，这个DC犯罪，也不能说整个psu football program犯罪
|
B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 16 哎, 这也是美国社会的劣根性:
我自己永远是被委屈的, 被冤枉的, 是对方/公众的反应太过分了,
我随时都要抬头挺胸, 而不是低头认错.
It's always us vs. world, never right vs. wrong.
【在 c****K 的大作中提到】
: 都出了这样的事情了，还一帮人喊 “we are Penn State".... 的确，只能说
: penn state很特别。
: JoePa还出门接受学生的拥戴，唉。。这些都会成为penn state今后不愿提起的往事。
|
l********e
发帖数: 2499 | 17 DC犯罪，program里的人包容，这次起诉的不止是一个sandusky
【在 m********t 的大作中提到】
: 这么说不好，你不能因为一个人犯罪，就说他全家都是黑社会
: 当然，这个DC犯罪，也不能说整个psu football program犯罪
|
c****e
发帖数: 1984 | 18 Joe is innocent until otherwise convicted or proved wrongdoing (我不是说
jerry) |
N*********n
发帖数: 3584 | 19 有案底的是从98年开始，你看看报告就是了
3-40年就是乱喷了。
as
football'
【在 c****K 的大作中提到】
: 你如果觉得栾童不那么严重，那么有组织有纪律有学校做依托的进行了30-40年，你还
: 觉得不严重吗？受害者不敢举报，或者举报了而没有人过问。这是个什么样的社会？
: Penn State是个什么样的社会？
: http://www.ydr.com/crime/ci_19283230?source=rss
: 1969—Jerry Sandusky starts his coaching career at Penn State University as
: a defensive line coach.
: 1977—Jerry Sandusky founds The Second Mile. It begins as a group foster
: home dedicated to helping troubled boys and grows into a charity dedicated
: to helping children with absent or dysfunctional families.
: January 1983—Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football'
|
o****3
发帖数: 5100 | 20 Sometimes, it is what you don't do
【在 c****e 的大作中提到】
: Joe is innocent until otherwise convicted or proved wrongdoing (我不是说
: jerry)
|
|
|
c****e
发帖数: 1984 | 21 sandusky 估计 convicted 没问题
几个人并不代表球队和整个program和学校
【在 l********e 的大作中提到】
: DC犯罪，program里的人包容，这次起诉的不止是一个sandusky
|
c****K
发帖数: 997 | 22 我觉得还是在校学生，尤其公立大学的，不长脑子。penn state的校友不会这样的，肯
定会让JoePa和校长走人的。
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
: 哎, 这也是美国社会的劣根性:
: 我自己永远是被委屈的, 被冤枉的, 是对方/公众的反应太过分了,
: 我随时都要抬头挺胸, 而不是低头认错.
: It's always us vs. world, never right vs. wrong.
|
b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 23 这里没人说joe pa/校长不需要下台吧。反感的是有人叫嚣要撤了fb program
你觉得哪个学校校友会，会建议取消fb program?
【在 c****K 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得还是在校学生，尤其公立大学的，不长脑子。penn state的校友不会这样的，肯
: 定会让JoePa和校长走人的。
|
c****e
发帖数: 1984 | 24 这个说的在理
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 这里没人说joe pa/校长不需要下台吧。反感的是有人叫嚣要撤了fb program
: 你觉得哪个学校校友会，会建议取消fb program?
|
J********l
发帖数: 988 | 25 你觉得NCAA会不会enforce2-3年的ban啊？
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 这里没人说joe pa/校长不需要下台吧。反感的是有人叫嚣要撤了fb program
: 你觉得哪个学校校友会，会建议取消fb program?
|
c****K
发帖数: 997 | 26 没有人“叫嚣”，是预测 --- penn state校友和下任校长为了和这30年彻底撇清关系
可能
采取的“极端”举动。
出事之后，为了damage control, 挽救损失，“矫枉过正”的措施是经常出现的。牺牲
的是
这一两年的球员，而下任校长是勇于作出这样的“牺牲”的。
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 这里没人说joe pa/校长不需要下台吧。反感的是有人叫嚣要撤了fb program
: 你觉得哪个学校校友会，会建议取消fb program?
|
o****3
发帖数: 5100 | 27 Why would NCAA be involved?
The players did not take money, coaches did not break the NCAA RULES.
【在 J********l 的大作中提到】
: 你觉得NCAA会不会enforce2-3年的ban啊？
|
b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 28 ok if you say your article was meant as a "prediction", fine.
big blue certainly doesn't share your view. he wants psu
fb shut down (later he backtracked and said he means 2-3 years).
the article you posted, from washington post, calls for
the END of psu football, permenantly. ("Penn State football should be
retired, permanently")
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/penn-state-
ld-be-retired-permanently/2011/11/07/gIQA9oiL0M_blog.html
that's by far the most radical article i've seen anywhere, and you chose to
post this one instead of others, maybe you can clarify the reason you did th
is.
【在 c****K 的大作中提到】
: 没有人“叫嚣”，是预测 --- penn state校友和下任校长为了和这30年彻底撇清关系
: 可能
: 采取的“极端”举动。
: 出事之后，为了damage control, 挽救损失，“矫枉过正”的措施是经常出现的。牺牲
: 的是
: 这一两年的球员，而下任校长是勇于作出这样的“牺牲”的。
|
l********e
发帖数: 2499 | 29 NCAA应该不会罚，校长和JoePa走人是跑不掉的。 |
b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 30 不在ncaa管辖范围。这个和football program没直接关系。
【在 J********l 的大作中提到】
: 你觉得NCAA会不会enforce2-3年的ban啊？
|
|
|
s****y
发帖数: 18685 | 31 这不跟球员犯罪一样么
该怎么判怎么判
as
football'
【在 c****K 的大作中提到】
: 你如果觉得栾童不那么严重，那么有组织有纪律有学校做依托的进行了30-40年，你还
: 觉得不严重吗？受害者不敢举报，或者举报了而没有人过问。这是个什么样的社会？
: Penn State是个什么样的社会？
: http://www.ydr.com/crime/ci_19283230?source=rss
: 1969—Jerry Sandusky starts his coaching career at Penn State University as
: a defensive line coach.
: 1977—Jerry Sandusky founds The Second Mile. It begins as a group foster
: home dedicated to helping troubled boys and grows into a charity dedicated
: to helping children with absent or dysfunctional families.
: January 1983—Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football'
|
c****e
发帖数: 1984 | 32 JoePa本来估计就要走人。
校长人也挺Nice,我当年在理发店和Spanier还聊过两句。10年以前的事情了。 |
m********t
发帖数: 9426 | 33
【在 c****e 的大作中提到】
: JoePa本来估计就要走人。
: 校长人也挺Nice,我当年在理发店和Spanier还聊过两句。10年以前的事情了。
|
c****K
发帖数: 997 | 34 permanently retire肯定是不现实的，5万人的学校没有football, 谁都不会
答应的，连学校的警察都不答应。
我看了她的标题，觉得penn state football为了表现和历史决裂自我惩罚两三年，
还是很有可能的。不算一个坏的选择。
我觉得后面两周，随着越来越的细节披露出来，penn state会天翻地覆的。
to
th
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: ok if you say your article was meant as a "prediction", fine.
: big blue certainly doesn't share your view. he wants psu
: fb shut down (later he backtracked and said he means 2-3 years).
: the article you posted, from washington post, calls for
: the END of psu football, permenantly. ("Penn State football should be
: retired, permanently")
: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/penn-state-
: ld-be-retired-permanently/2011/11/07/gIQA9oiL0M_blog.html
: that's by far the most radical article i've seen anywhere, and you chose to
: post this one instead of others, maybe you can clarify the reason you did th
|
m********t
发帖数: 9426 | 35 这事情真tm闹大了
period
【在 c****K 的大作中提到】
: permanently retire肯定是不现实的，5万人的学校没有football, 谁都不会
: 答应的，连学校的警察都不答应。
: 我看了她的标题，觉得penn state football为了表现和历史决裂自我惩罚两三年，
: 还是很有可能的。不算一个坏的选择。
: 我觉得后面两周，随着越来越的细节披露出来，penn state会天翻地覆的。
:
: to
: th
|
N*********n
发帖数: 3584 | 36 他哪里nice了,真正的伪君子啊
一出事就立刻unconditional support AD和VP
今天又在不和Joe Pa通气的情况下cancel PC。他要能比Joe Pa挨的时间更长而不被解
雇才是学校和校董会真正的耻辱
【在 c****e 的大作中提到】
: JoePa本来估计就要走人。
: 校长人也挺Nice,我当年在理发店和Spanier还聊过两句。10年以前的事情了。
|
b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 37 这个校长真是弱智到极点。比gordon gee还傻
【在 N*********n 的大作中提到】
: 他哪里nice了,真正的伪君子啊
: 一出事就立刻unconditional support AD和VP
: 今天又在不和Joe Pa通气的情况下cancel PC。他要能比Joe Pa挨的时间更长而不被解
: 雇才是学校和校董会真正的耻辱
|
T*U
发帖数: 22634 | |
c****e
发帖数: 1984 | |
h***i
发帖数: 1970 | 40 天主教在LA的案子赔了6个亿，这次不会PSU破产了吧。
【在 T*U 的大作中提到】
: penn state就是教会。
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l********e
发帖数: 2499 | 41 Gee那个关于bsu的评论也够绝的。。。
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 这个校长真是弱智到极点。比gordon gee还傻
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 42 那个评论老实说我觉得还行，说了很多bcs 想说的。我说他傻是跳出来挺tressel的那句
话。在ncaa调查进行时，事实没搞清前就盲目表态，太傻了
【在 l********e 的大作中提到】
: Gee那个关于bsu的评论也够绝的。。。
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c****K
发帖数: 997 | 43 Gordon Gee还算有借口，这个校长虽然we are penn state, 但应该对事件的严重性
有了很明确的信息了--- AD 和 VP 都逮捕了。 不知道他在想什么。
不过今天电视上还有个penn state的官员（女的）为AD/VP辩护呢。
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 这个校长真是弱智到极点。比gordon gee还傻
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l********e
发帖数: 2499 | 44 tatoo那个我一直觉得不是什么大事儿。是不对！但不至于罚那么恨。还会有什么追加
处罚吗？
你们那个posey这赛季还打的了不？
那句
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 那个评论老实说我觉得还行，说了很多bcs 想说的。我说他傻是跳出来挺tressel的那句
: 话。在ncaa调查进行时，事实没搞清前就盲目表态，太傻了
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 45 可以打最后一场还是2场好像。
【在 l********e 的大作中提到】
: tatoo那个我一直觉得不是什么大事儿。是不对！但不至于罚那么恨。还会有什么追加
: 处罚吗？
: 你们那个posey这赛季还打的了不？
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: 那句
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c****K
发帖数: 997 | 46 我想开始president为AD/VP辩护，心里想得是penn state大于地方检察官，psu的学生
校友都会站在他的背后，想把两个人救下来，把损失控制到最小。但事实一出来，校友
马上
反水，他也就傻眼了。没有昨天的表演，他也许能留下来，有了昨天，现在应该要一起
走人了。
【在 c****K 的大作中提到】
: Gordon Gee还算有借口，这个校长虽然we are penn state, 但应该对事件的严重性
: 有了很明确的信息了--- AD 和 VP 都逮捕了。 不知道他在想什么。
: 不过今天电视上还有个penn state的官员（女的）为AD/VP辩护呢。
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 47 一旦进入司法程序，就算校友都支持也没用。美国司法还是独立的。
casey anthony放出来，多少人骂啊。
【在 c****K 的大作中提到】
: 我想开始president为AD/VP辩护，心里想得是penn state大于地方检察官，psu的学生
: 校友都会站在他的背后，想把两个人救下来，把损失控制到最小。但事实一出来，校友
: 马上
: 反水，他也就傻眼了。没有昨天的表演，他也许能留下来，有了昨天，现在应该要一起
: 走人了。
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m*********e
发帖数: 944 | 48 这个校长走不走要Donors和Board说了算。 |
f******o
发帖数: 4689 | 49 那女的哪是官员，她就是AD的律师。
【在 c****K 的大作中提到】
: Gordon Gee还算有借口，这个校长虽然we are penn state, 但应该对事件的严重性
: 有了很明确的信息了--- AD 和 VP 都逮捕了。 不知道他在想什么。
: 不过今天电视上还有个penn state的官员（女的）为AD/VP辩护呢。
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 50 hahaha. 真的假的啊。coachK英语要提高啊。
【在 f******o 的大作中提到】
: 那女的哪是官员，她就是AD的律师。
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c****K
发帖数: 997 | 51 不知道是谁，就看了一眼，以为是Penn state的，因为昨天听他们校长挺AD/VP来着
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: hahaha. 真的假的啊。coachK英语要提高啊。
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