j****3
发帖数: 2836 | 1 http://www.chinadefenseobservation.com/?p=4243
China claims to have a working version of NASA’s impossible engine orbiting
the Earth
Scientists in China claim they’ve created a working prototype of the ‘
impossible’ reactionless engine – and they say they’re already testing it
in orbit aboard the Tiangong-2 space laboratory. And will use it in
satellites ‘imminently’.
The radical, fuel-free EmDrive recently stirred up controversy after a paper
published by a team of NASA researchers appeared to show they’d
successfully built the technology.
If the physics-defying concept is brought to reality, it’s said the engine
could get humans to Mars in just 10 weeks.
But now, scientists with the China Academy of Space Technology claim NASA’s
results ‘re-confirm’ what they’d already achieved, and have plans to
implement it in satellites ‘as quickly as possible.’
A fuel-free engine, described as ‘impossible’ to create, may now be a step
closer to reality, according to leaked Nasa documents. Pictured is a
prototype of the EMDrive
With no fuel to eject, the EmDrive would violate Newton’s third law, which
states that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
At a press conference in Beijing, however, researchers with Cast confirmed
the government has been funding research into the technology since 2010, and
claimed they’ve developed a device that’s already being tested in low-
Earth orbit, IBTimes UK reports.
It comes just a month after anonymous sources told IBTimes UK that tests on
the EmDrive were underway aboard Tiangong-2.
‘National research institutions in recent years have carried out a series
of long-term, repeated tests on the EmDrive,’ Dr Chen Yue, head of the
communication satellite division at Cast said at the press conference,
IBTimes UK reports.
‘NASA’s published test results can be said to re-confirm the technology.
We have successfully developed several specifications of multiple prototype
principles.
The NASA tests managed to generate powers of 1.2 millinewtons per kilowatt (
mN/Kw), a fraction of the current state of the art Hall ion thruster, which
can achieve a massive 60 mN/Kw (illustrated)
‘The establishment of an experimental verification platform to complete the
milli-level micro thrust measurement test, as well as several years of
repeated experiments and investigations into corresponding interference
factors, confirm that in this type of thruster, thrust exists.’
Cast is a subsidiary of the Chinese Aerospace Science and Technology
Corporation (CASC) and the manufacturer of Dong Fang Hong satellites.
According to Li Feng, chief designer of Cast’s communication satellite
division, the team has built a prototype that so far generates just a few
millinewtons of thrust, IBTimes UK reports. |
C**o
发帖数: 10373 | 2 扯鸡巴淡
盹盹盹
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【在 j****3 的大作中提到】
: http://www.chinadefenseobservation.com/?p=4243
: China claims to have a working version of NASA’s impossible engine orbiting
: the Earth
: Scientists in China claim they’ve created a working prototype of the ‘
: impossible’ reactionless engine – and they say they’re already testing it
: in orbit aboard the Tiangong-2 space laboratory. And will use it in
: satellites ‘imminently’.
: The radical, fuel-free EmDrive recently stirred up controversy after a paper
: published by a team of NASA researchers appeared to show they’d
: successfully built the technology.
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c*********l
发帖数: 3438 | 3 钱老科普一下是谁抄谁的
orbiting
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paper
【在 j****3 的大作中提到】
: http://www.chinadefenseobservation.com/?p=4243
: China claims to have a working version of NASA’s impossible engine orbiting
: the Earth
: Scientists in China claim they’ve created a working prototype of the ‘
: impossible’ reactionless engine – and they say they’re already testing it
: in orbit aboard the Tiangong-2 space laboratory. And will use it in
: satellites ‘imminently’.
: The radical, fuel-free EmDrive recently stirred up controversy after a paper
: published by a team of NASA researchers appeared to show they’d
: successfully built the technology.
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j****3
发帖数: 2836 | 4 独立研究，谁也没抄谁。不过中国研究的早，进度快，水平高，但以前一直保密不公开
。现在美国有了点初始成果，中国就公开自己的进度，让大家知道中国才是该领域的领
先者。
【在 c*********l 的大作中提到】
: 钱老科普一下是谁抄谁的
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B*********a
发帖数: 6244 | |
f******t
发帖数: 19544 | |
S***1
发帖数: 3140 | 7 科普一下吧
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paper
【在 j****3 的大作中提到】
: http://www.chinadefenseobservation.com/?p=4243
: China claims to have a working version of NASA’s impossible engine orbiting
: the Earth
: Scientists in China claim they’ve created a working prototype of the ‘
: impossible’ reactionless engine – and they say they’re already testing it
: in orbit aboard the Tiangong-2 space laboratory. And will use it in
: satellites ‘imminently’.
: The radical, fuel-free EmDrive recently stirred up controversy after a paper
: published by a team of NASA researchers appeared to show they’d
: successfully built the technology.
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e***d
发帖数: 8248 | 8 科普下霍尔推进器是什么东东？
哥只知道霍尔效应。
【在 B*********a 的大作中提到】
: 这个是霍尔推进器吧，很emdrive有屁关系
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C***S
发帖数: 1159 | 9 应该是欺骗我帝的猴版星球大战。我帝应该不会上当。 |
h**********c
发帖数: 4120 | 10 science channel好象介绍过，就是一个喇叭形的微波炉，吹
不知道是不是说一个东西。 |
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C***S
发帖数: 1159 | 11 就是微波在前窄后宽的腔体里来回震荡，就提供推力了。以后上了天以后，不用带燃料
了，微波炉一开，船就往前走。
【在 h**********c 的大作中提到】
: science channel好象介绍过，就是一个喇叭形的微波炉，吹
: 不知道是不是说一个东西。
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h**********c
发帖数: 4120 | 12 那就是了，science channel介绍过， title 好像是 how universe works
【在 C***S 的大作中提到】
: 就是微波在前窄后宽的腔体里来回震荡，就提供推力了。以后上了天以后，不用带燃料
: 了，微波炉一开，船就往前走。
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a******9
发帖数: 20431 | 13 这怎么解释和动量守恒的冲突
【在 C***S 的大作中提到】
: 就是微波在前窄后宽的腔体里来回震荡，就提供推力了。以后上了天以后，不用带燃料
: 了，微波炉一开，船就往前走。
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C***S
发帖数: 1159 | 14 暗物质无处不在，其实电磁波在推动以太前行。真空不空。
【在 a******9 的大作中提到】
: 这怎么解释和动量守恒的冲突
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h**********c
发帖数: 4120 | 15 是不是说脱离质量，能量也可以作用和反作用，瞎掰的。
【在 a******9 的大作中提到】
: 这怎么解释和动量守恒的冲突
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z**********e
发帖数: 22064 | 16 嘴炮，还不如阿三的ppt。
现在共产党在抄袭美国70年代拖垮苏联的“星球大战”计划。
美国今天通过“可靠渠道”透露美国在这方面有突破，明天通过“消息灵通人士”透露
美国在那个方面有进展。
苏联都信以为真，为了平衡美国的这些子虚乌有的“新突破新进展”，投入了大量的人
力物力in vain。
加上矬子领导的我国在南边扯苏联的蛋，最后是我国和美国像拔河一样把苏联给拉散架
了。 |
w*****7
发帖数: 4847 | |
D**s
发帖数: 6361 | 18 不是，中国起步不比美国晚
[在 Bodhidharma (达摩老祖) 的大作中提到：]
:这个是霍尔推进器吧，很emdrive有屁关系 |
D**s
发帖数: 6361 | 19 最新的paper貌似解释了，不冲突
[在 attain79 (蒙古国海军司令) 的大作中提到：]
:这怎么解释和动量守恒的冲突 |
T**********s
发帖数: 2135 | 20 名校杜克大学造假教授发来贺电
【在 z**********e 的大作中提到】
: 嘴炮，还不如阿三的ppt。
: 现在共产党在抄袭美国70年代拖垮苏联的“星球大战”计划。
: 美国今天通过“可靠渠道”透露美国在这方面有突破，明天通过“消息灵通人士”透露
: 美国在那个方面有进展。
: 苏联都信以为真，为了平衡美国的这些子虚乌有的“新突破新进展”，投入了大量的人
: 力物力in vain。
: 加上矬子领导的我国在南边扯苏联的蛋，最后是我国和美国像拔河一样把苏联给拉散架
: 了。
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z**********e
发帖数: 22064 | 21 这种造假有无消耗我军的人力物力？
【在 T**********s 的大作中提到】
: 名校杜克大学造假教授发来贺电
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h**********c
发帖数: 4120 | 22 你军是幼儿园里最大两只大象
【在 z**********e 的大作中提到】
: 这种造假有无消耗我军的人力物力？
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j****3
发帖数: 2836 | 23 是emdrive, 文章最后提到了霍尔推进器，只是比较两者当前的推力大小。
【在 B*********a 的大作中提到】
: 这个是霍尔推进器吧，很emdrive有屁关系
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i****n
发帖数: 2729 | 24 微波炉里是不是还可以顺便热个包子？
【在 C***S 的大作中提到】
: 就是微波在前窄后宽的腔体里来回震荡，就提供推力了。以后上了天以后，不用带燃料
: 了，微波炉一开，船就往前走。
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l***a
发帖数: 198 | 25 国内的确测过了，测量结果与NASA的也一致。但是测量方式有漏洞，没有考虑微波反射
，也没有考虑热效应。需要再测。 |
c****3
发帖数: 10787 | 26 TG是EM drive最早的赞助人，TG是典型的实用主义，灌水的科学家还在认为这是伪科学
，TG早就偷偷试验了。TG眼里没啥是伪科学，只要能工作就行。
orbiting
it
paper
【在 j****3 的大作中提到】
: http://www.chinadefenseobservation.com/?p=4243
: China claims to have a working version of NASA’s impossible engine orbiting
: the Earth
: Scientists in China claim they’ve created a working prototype of the ‘
: impossible’ reactionless engine – and they say they’re already testing it
: in orbit aboard the Tiangong-2 space laboratory. And will use it in
: satellites ‘imminently’.
: The radical, fuel-free EmDrive recently stirred up controversy after a paper
: published by a team of NASA researchers appeared to show they’d
: successfully built the technology.
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j******r
发帖数: 3327 | 27 没说试验成功。要再大几倍的推力才可用于卫星姿态调整。严格地说这次试验失败。不
过生意失败乃成功之母也过得去。
完全没有理论支持。严格地说和水变油差不多。水也可以变油的不是。
【在 S***1 的大作中提到】
: 科普一下吧
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: orbiting
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