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发帖数: 2883 | 1 有一个facebook网页叫 Free Peter Liang，我偶尔撞进去想支持一把，突然发现上面
有格里的表姐的留言，很蛮横很撒泼的一通乱骂。结果我就跟她对话了。开始好好说，
然后就辩论起来，然后又来了一个梁警官事件纽约知名的活动家，我一个人舌战群雄。
好像他们的气焰开始降低了。欢迎大家观战参与，至少点赞，也表示一下人多势众啊。
现在黑人的精英已经意识到他们掉进了陷阱，连夏普顿都改变立场说要梁不坐牢了，就
是下面以格里家人和这个活动家态度极其强硬。但是我的态度也很强硬。辩论得有理有
据。
买买提上那些就会在背后骂黑人的呢，哪去了？
https://www.facebook.com/FreePeterLiang | f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 2 顺便说一下，辩论着。。。我都觉得自己是半个刑侦专家了，感觉我对当时情景的分析
好像很有道理。总结了大家的讨论结果，重塑了当时现场。大家群策群力，应该可以说
服他们。 | f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 3 怪了，刚才本来想去看看有没有其他华人留言，结果发现格里表姐的那个留言以及下面
我所有跟她和那个知名活动家的对话都没有了！而且她另外两个我还没有打开过的留言
链接也都没有了。我想这不可能是华人网页管理者删的吧？因为明明是我赢了，到最后
她们两个都没有回复了的。再者，华人不会那么傻去删他们的留言？
是不是可以查什么 google cache 一类的东东查到？幸好我还在大多数帖子发出去后抄
录下来了一份。 | f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 4 我想会不会是她们终于意识到华人也不是他们原来以为那么好惹的？撤了？我的讨论贴
在此帖一份，大家看有没有问题？
We are very sorry for your loss of Akai and feel heart wrenching for what
happened. Liang of course has responsibility, but it was truly a tragic
accident. Please give a second thought on these facts: #1, the cops were
sent there patrolling, even if their superior told them not to do the
vertical patrol but they did, does such kind of act violate any police
policy and rule and so to ensure any consequence at law? #2, the police have
already acknowledged that patrolling with gun drawn in such dangerous
situation as an acceptable conduct. #3, after the accidental discharge,
Liang did NOT text his union rep, (as already clarified by the police). They
both did not immediately call for 911 and rend first aid to Gurley, because
as both Liang and his partner officer maintained that they did not realize
someone got shot by Liang’s bullet in the first few minutes.
I believe this story, because looking at the photo of the stairwell, the
stairs are deep, and each flight is separated by wall. Remember when Gurley
got shot by the bullet, he stumbled down on the stairs till 2 flights down
and then collapsed. So it was already 3 flights down from where Liang was.
Liang’s gun discharged when he was turning the handle of the door to enter
the stairwell, and it was dark, he might not even have time to see there
were 2 people one flight down moving, and in the panic of the gun fire, the
both officers failed to notice that Gurley stumbled away. Then even if the
officers could hear Gurley’s girlfriend yelling 3 flights down, they would
not have been able to relate that to Liang’s gun fire right away, because,
first they both knew that Liang was not aiming at anything to shoot, and the
chances that a randomly discharged bullet get ricocheted from wall to kill
someone are less than winning a 649, second, if Akai fell in their eye sight
, they would realize some one got shot, but Akai stumbled 2 flights down,
how could Liang immediately realize or even imagine that something that
remote would be related to him? So many 649 like odds occurred all together,
even if a veteran cop might not have been able to know right away what had
happened.
Here I also quot some one else' opinion: Liang did not deliberately fail to
come to Gurley’s aid. Had he knew that someone got shot by him, saving the
person’s life would have been much more important than the question of
whether to report the discharge of his gun to him for saving his fate,
because if someone got shot by him, whether he reported the gun discharge or
not, it would be known by his superior anyway, and he would be in a much
bigger trouble than losing his job. So he could not have chosen to ignore
the dying Gurley. Liang’s fault is that he didn’t want to report his
accidental discharge, but does that constitute a crime? I don't know the law
about that. But charging him manslaughter is likely overblown. | f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 5 The woman there was hysterical, yes, but I bet at the first minutes even
that woman did not realize Akai got shot. How many men who got shot in chest
would be able to run down 2 flights? Less than a chance for winning a 649.
And Liang the both were in a panic for gun discharge, were debating whether
to report the discharge so they were distracted. Even if they could hear
some yelling 3 flights down, how in hell they could relate that to
themselves? Yes he did a terrible job, but he did not do so intentionally.
He must be fired, for sure. But a manslaughter charge? ... we have to fight
for justice.
。。。
It was just few minutes later that they found out what had happened and then
called for help. For the few minutes' unintentional delay you are going to
get him a manslaughter charge? Give me some precedent case law. | f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 6 In situation like that pitch black stairwell, it is an officer's discretion
to put his finger on the trigger. And he might just unintentionally slipped
his finger there. What about the White officer who accidentally shot a Black
guy dead when patrolling a housing project? Did he get indicted for finger
on trigger? No. So you now want an Asian cop to be indicted for finger on
trigger? Because he is not White? Don't tell me you are not racist.
。。。
Ty Blizzy Black, I know you wanted all of them to go to jail and you did
fight for that. But that doesn't have nothing to do with us Chinese, because
what we are fighting against is not you, but the system. We want to be
treated equally by the system, just like you. If you want to stand for the
system, then you pick the fight with us. You have the right to fight the
system, and so do we. By the way, don't swear like a bitch. Maybe the
Chinese always look like someone you can push around? Maybe, but not always. | f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 7 How many Chinese have been killed by you Black people and ended up in
caskets? Most lately, Officer Liu. And within half year you guys pushed 2
Asian men into subway track for no reason, sent both of them to caskets. You
beat 2 Chinese young students dead, and you even protested before the court
for the killers' trial. We should have said at that time that "The Blacks
demand the White privilege when coming to killing the Chinese," and bitched
around like you, throwing many "fucks" at you, Don't you agree? Come on,
have some conscience. Do not bully the other minorities just because they
are more vulnerable than you are, because you yourself are also being
bullied.
And don't forget, Liang killed Gurley only by accident, but you guys killed
us for no reason or just for money. My best friend, an Indian guy, got
robbed and beat almost dead, just for $80, by a group of Black guys. He
barely survived, and now he will become blind any time bcause of the injury
he got from that brutal attack. Please... | f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 8 Now, when the Chinese complain it's racism because those White officers did
not get indicted for much more serious intentional killings or same
accidental killings but only did an Asian cop, some Black people commented
that "Chinese demand that they get same privilege as whites when it comes to
killing black men."
When the Black people complained that they are treated differently from
Whites by the system because of their race, we Chinese supported you.
But when the Chinese complained we are treated differently from the Whites
by the system because of our race, the Black people say the “Chinese
demanded same privilege as whites”.
Perhaps next time when the Black people complain that the White cops treat
them differently from the Whites, we Chinese should send the same comment
back – that the “Blacks demanded same privilege as whites”? | C******y
发帖数: 3249 | 9 轮子在这件事上，要跟台狗拼个鱼死网破啊。台狗认为这不是台湾人的事情，一定要把
Peter Liang 献出去给黑爹。 |
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