f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 1 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
, who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
然后我也去发了评论，没想到成了纽约时报编辑的14个pick之一，可见纽约时报有的编
辑还是有一定的同情的。然后我的评论后又一个很不错的黑人回复，非常聪明的黑人，
试图与华人社区沟通交好。我也回复了。如下。
我的评论：
What really angers the Chinese community is the inequality of criminal
justice. If the law is not “similarly situated, similarly treated”, then
it is not law. Then we have to be outraged. If the White officers who
committed much more egregious intended killings like in Garner’s case get
life time in prison sentence, then we would view the indictment of Liang’s
unintended accidental killing as justifiable. If the White officer who
accidentally shot an unarmed civilian dead when patrolling a NY’s housing
project in 2004 got indicted, then we would view the indictment of Liang as
justified. This is a most similar case to that of Liang. But no, they are
never indicted. So Liang is the only one singled out. Except that he is
Asian, what else can be the reason? He is made a scapegoat for those
officers because he is Asian. This is not law, but racism in criminal
justice.
黑人回复
We have common cause. Both our communities have common cause and reason to
unite our voices.
As an African-American, my heart not only goes out to the family of Akai
Gurley, but the family of Officer Liang. As I stated in my response I fear
this may be a tragic accident.
I greatly appreciate your comments and fully sympathize. And as I concluded
in my letter, I fear we both will be denied justice for the reasons you
enumerated.
Yours,
我的回复
Jeruvia, thank you so much for the understanding. My heart goes to Gurley's
family, and the Chinese community feels very sorry too. Some Black people
called this tragic accident a "modern day lynching", but we Chinese never
had any reason and intention to do that. Instead, we supported your civil
rights movement before, and now support your struggle for justice. Many
Black people don't realize that we are in the same boat, and we Chinese are
oppressed not less than you, such as in my case. Like you said, we both
will be denied justice. I believe this is not something Mr. Thomason did
alone. Whatever the outcome is, please let's not misunderstand each other. |
l******t
发帖数: 55733 | |
w**2
发帖数: 724 | 3 大赞！
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
|
v*******e
发帖数: 11604 | |
C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 5 煞笔。
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
|
m********a
发帖数: 12601 | 6 这个评论看comment的时候就还读了的，写得还不错 |
c****n
发帖数: 4129 | |
v*******e
发帖数: 11604 | 8 你这跳梁小丑
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: 煞笔。
:
: is
: Gurley
|
f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 9 谢谢你的鼓励。是你们大家的努力使得这个案子在华人世界被广泛传播，签名迅速达到
10万。你们的潜力很大，我非常钦佩。还是人多力量大啊。现在你们的努力这么快就有
效果了，向你们致意！大家继续努力。
就目前情况看我认为梁警官被判误杀罪机会不大了。
【在 v*******e 的大作中提到】
: 楼主，我对你太赞了。你是我们军版的脊梁骨。
|
C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 10 Let me tell you something. I do not see anything good about Peter Liang. He
must be a democrat from NYC
【在 v*******e 的大作中提到】
: 你这跳梁小丑
|
|
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f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 11 另外对那些认为只要出了事故死了人就该被判刑的，我给你们专门抄下来了今天纽约时
报上面一个黑人女医生的回复，她说如果出错死人就该判刑的话，那每天都有医生护士
出错致人死命，是不是也该判刑？为什么就是警察该？如下：
I am a physician, and while I am not discussing the particulars of this case
specifically, I wonder if people should be prosecuted for genuine mistakes.
In that case a number of folks in the medical profession - doctors, nurses
etc, would be criminally prosecuted. A number of fatal mistakes are made by
the medical profession everyday with patient deaths and no one is criminally
prosecuted. Why single out certain professions? |
C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 12 you are just dumb. This case is just a case of money. nobody care about his
very much. YOU ARE STUPID.
case
mistakes.
nurses
by
criminally
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 另外对那些认为只要出了事故死了人就该被判刑的，我给你们专门抄下来了今天纽约时
: 报上面一个黑人女医生的回复，她说如果出错死人就该判刑的话，那每天都有医生护士
: 出错致人死命，是不是也该判刑？为什么就是警察该？如下：
: I am a physician, and while I am not discussing the particulars of this case
: specifically, I wonder if people should be prosecuted for genuine mistakes.
: In that case a number of folks in the medical profession - doctors, nurses
: etc, would be criminally prosecuted. A number of fatal mistakes are made by
: the medical profession everyday with patient deaths and no one is criminally
: prosecuted. Why single out certain professions?
|
f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 13 我还有另外一个评论没有发出来，不知是纽约时报不想发还是他们已经关闭了评论。我
说的就是为什么白人意外出事故杀了亚裔不判刑：
Many people say that one should be held criminally accountable for even an
accidentally killing, I totally agree, on the condition that it is not for
the Asians only. But the reality appears that when Asians fall victim of
accidental killing, no one is criminally responsible, but when it’s the
other way around, like Liang, Asians would get double punishment. NYPD White
Officer Richard S. Neri accidentally fired and killed Timothy Stansbury
when patrolling a housing project, but did not get indicted. Here in Toronto
, a White police officer violated the traffic rule and accidentally killed a
Chinese elderly woman by his cruiser car on the sidewalk, he only paid a $
400 fine to the Chinese family. Also here in Toronto, a White young man
killed a Chinese woman pedestrian when racing on his bike on side walk,
police called it an accident, nothing happened to him. Another White man
also killed a Japanese man when biking on a side walk here in Toronto, and
only paid a small fine. |
v*******e
发帖数: 11604 | 14 谢谢你的努力
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢你的鼓励。是你们大家的努力使得这个案子在华人世界被广泛传播，签名迅速达到
: 10万。你们的潜力很大，我非常钦佩。还是人多力量大啊。现在你们的努力这么快就有
: 效果了，向你们致意！大家继续努力。
: 就目前情况看我认为梁警官被判误杀罪机会不大了。
|
C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 15 As far as I can tell. 99% people on this board do not know about this story.
Your are over stretching it.
White
Toronto
a
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 我还有另外一个评论没有发出来，不知是纽约时报不想发还是他们已经关闭了评论。我
: 说的就是为什么白人意外出事故杀了亚裔不判刑：
: Many people say that one should be held criminally accountable for even an
: accidentally killing, I totally agree, on the condition that it is not for
: the Asians only. But the reality appears that when Asians fall victim of
: accidental killing, no one is criminally responsible, but when it’s the
: other way around, like Liang, Asians would get double punishment. NYPD White
: Officer Richard S. Neri accidentally fired and killed Timothy Stansbury
: when patrolling a housing project, but did not get indicted. Here in Toronto
: , a White police officer violated the traffic rule and accidentally killed a
|
v*******e
发帖数: 11604 | 16 So what, he is Chinese, that's more important
He
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: Let me tell you something. I do not see anything good about Peter Liang. He
: must be a democrat from NYC
|
S*********g
发帖数: 24893 | 17 恕小弟不能苟同
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/Military/43262809.html
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
|
f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 18 谢谢。你们也去了啊？肯定也写了评论，我看了，有的华人写的相当好的评论。大家齐
心合力，让人知道我们华人也不是那么 expendable的。
【在 m********a 的大作中提到】
: 这个评论看comment的时候就还读了的，写得还不错
|
v*******e
发帖数: 11604 | 19 I care
his
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: you are just dumb. This case is just a case of money. nobody care about his
: very much. YOU ARE STUPID.
:
: case
: mistakes.
: nurses
: by
: criminally
|
C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 20 This case is a tragedy for both parties. Both are losers. Stop you stupid
fighting for nothing. I tell you the end of the story. The office will be
jailed for a short term.
【在 v*******e 的大作中提到】
: So what, he is Chinese, that's more important
:
: He
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O*******d
发帖数: 20343 | |
i***a
发帖数: 4718 | 22 这个也很好。
Yue Zhang New York Yesterday
More than 100,000 Chinese Americans stand behind Officer Peter Liang.
Margaret Chin and Cathay Dang are entirely wrong to pick Officer Liang's
case as an example of police brutality. Officer Liang is merely performing
his duty in a very dangerous environment and had no intention to shoot, let
alone kill anyone. There is eerie similarity between this case and the
shooting death of Timothy Stansbury Jr. that occurred in January 2004, when
Officer Richard S. Neri Jr. killed him on a roof of a housing project in the
middle of the night. A grand jury declined to indict Officer Neri in that
case on charges of criminally negligent homicide, declaring the event an
accident.
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
|
b****n
发帖数: 6896 | 23 谢谢LZ，你写得非常好。争取正义的同时，又避免被人利用与黑人冲突。 |
f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 24 又看到一个评论，我认为是所有评论中最深刻最中肯的，不知道是不是中国人写的。此
人简直是天才政治家的头脑，把问题的本质看得这么透 - 亚裔被人欺辱其实是亚裔自
己的问题：
He is obviously a scapegoat. I predicted this immediately after reading
about this incident. He is Asian, expendable, and comes from an immigrant
population that is indifferent and fearful of causing any waves. The Asian
politicians quoted in this article are pathetic. Until Asians stand up for
themselves and put their focus on social issues beyond wealth creation, they
will always be the unwitting victims in the racial power plays of this
country.
作者 ericcnsf
在 San Francisco |
f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 25 对，我及时回复，就是为了既要斗争，又要避免种族对抗。
【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢LZ，你写得非常好。争取正义的同时，又避免被人利用与黑人冲突。
|
i***a
发帖数: 4718 | 26 赞！
they
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 又看到一个评论，我认为是所有评论中最深刻最中肯的，不知道是不是中国人写的。此
: 人简直是天才政治家的头脑，把问题的本质看得这么透 - 亚裔被人欺辱其实是亚裔自
: 己的问题：
: He is obviously a scapegoat. I predicted this immediately after reading
: about this incident. He is Asian, expendable, and comes from an immigrant
: population that is indifferent and fearful of causing any waves. The Asian
: politicians quoted in this article are pathetic. Until Asians stand up for
: themselves and put their focus on social issues beyond wealth creation, they
: will always be the unwitting victims in the racial power plays of this
: country.
|
f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 27 对，这个也写的非常好，拿出100000人的数据，非常具有说服力！好像我还没有看到，
我正看到2/3的评论地方。
let
when
the
【在 i***a 的大作中提到】
: 这个也很好。
: Yue Zhang New York Yesterday
: More than 100,000 Chinese Americans stand behind Officer Peter Liang.
: Margaret Chin and Cathay Dang are entirely wrong to pick Officer Liang's
: case as an example of police brutality. Officer Liang is merely performing
: his duty in a very dangerous environment and had no intention to shoot, let
: alone kill anyone. There is eerie similarity between this case and the
: shooting death of Timothy Stansbury Jr. that occurred in January 2004, when
: Officer Richard S. Neri Jr. killed him on a roof of a housing project in the
: middle of the night. A grand jury declined to indict Officer Neri in that
|
Q***k
发帖数: 1419 | 28 赞
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
|
v*******e
发帖数: 11604 | 29 白宫签名的作用很大一部分是召唤、组织、鼓气、壮胆。上次如果没有得州陈独秀搞的
签名，反鸡毛也反不起来。 |
V******H
发帖数: 143 | 30 说别人傻逼很容易 你有本事写个跟楼主一样水平的也被pick的comment啊。像你这样的
现实中的loser我见多了 看到人比你牛逼你就去骂人。你自己认为你与众不同？错了，
网上看你 你才是tmd傻逼 网下看你你就是个彻头彻尾的loser 不愿意当华人就别来华
人论坛 你爹当年真应该把你射墙上
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: 煞笔。
:
: is
: Gurley
|
|
|
C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 31 finding a fuckable is way better than fucking on mitbbs.
【在 v*******e 的大作中提到】
: 白宫签名的作用很大一部分是召唤、组织、鼓气、壮胆。上次如果没有得州陈独秀搞的
: 签名，反鸡毛也反不起来。
|
f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 32 这个人说的应该成为我们所有华人的座右铭。我要把它翻译过来专门发个帖子。其实他
说的这一切就是我们华人所有的悲剧所在。
He is obviously a scapegoat. I predicted this immediately after reading
about this incident. He is Asian, expendable, and comes from an immigrant
population that is indifferent and fearful of causing any waves. The Asian
politicians quoted in this article are pathetic. Until Asians stand up for
themselves and put their focus on social issues beyond wealth creation, they
will always be the unwitting victims in the racial power plays of this
country. |
C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 33 I've post several posts about this. finding a fuckable is better than fuck
you keyboard.
【在 V******H 的大作中提到】
: 说别人傻逼很容易 你有本事写个跟楼主一样水平的也被pick的comment啊。像你这样的
: 现实中的loser我见多了 看到人比你牛逼你就去骂人。你自己认为你与众不同？错了，
: 网上看你 你才是tmd傻逼 网下看你你就是个彻头彻尾的loser 不愿意当华人就别来华
: 人论坛 你爹当年真应该把你射墙上
|
v*******e
发帖数: 11604 | 34 你是说你自己吧。我有家庭有小孩，有三个小孩，我关注中国人后代的生存环境，我
fight for creating a better places for our kids. 你有小孩吗，结婚了吗，有对
象吗？
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: I've post several posts about this. finding a fuckable is better than fuck
: you keyboard.
|
f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 35 又看了一下，那个回复我的黑人也有一个评论被Pick了。从其行文用词来看，绝非一般
黑人，应该是个黑人学者。聪明的黑人还是醒悟了。我们会化险为夷的可能性很大。 |
S*********g
发帖数: 24893 | 36 恕小弟不能苟同
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/Military/43262809.html
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 又看了一下，那个回复我的黑人也有一个评论被Pick了。从其行文用词来看，绝非一般
: 黑人，应该是个黑人学者。聪明的黑人还是醒悟了。我们会化险为夷的可能性很大。
|
I******I
发帖数: 14241 | 37 陈独秀哥无意之中推动了历史。
【在 v*******e 的大作中提到】
: 白宫签名的作用很大一部分是召唤、组织、鼓气、壮胆。上次如果没有得州陈独秀搞的
: 签名，反鸡毛也反不起来。
|
C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 38 interesting. how can you tell the poster is a black, not white, ?
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 又看了一下，那个回复我的黑人也有一个评论被Pick了。从其行文用词来看，绝非一般
: 黑人，应该是个黑人学者。聪明的黑人还是醒悟了。我们会化险为夷的可能性很大。
|
f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 39 对，我记得陈独秀哥。他这次恐怕没有出面了吧？还在板上吗？
【在 I******I 的大作中提到】
: 陈独秀哥无意之中推动了历史。
|
b********d
发帖数: 769 | 40 up!
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 41 I am against all petitions to the white house. You see most people here hate
Obama so much, but still hope Obama to help them. This is so weird.
【在 v*******e 的大作中提到】
: 你是说你自己吧。我有家庭有小孩，有三个小孩，我关注中国人后代的生存环境，我
: fight for creating a better places for our kids. 你有小孩吗，结婚了吗，有对
: 象吗？
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V******H
发帖数: 143 | 42 把名改了吧 别侮辱那个学校了 小loser
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: I've post several posts about this. finding a fuckable is better than fuck
: you keyboard.
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C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 43 I will reserve on my comments. but I do not like overstreching this story.
【在 V******H 的大作中提到】
: 把名改了吧 别侮辱那个学校了 小loser
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s*******t
发帖数: 838 | |
V******H
发帖数: 143 | 45 呵呵
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: I will reserve on my comments. but I do not like overstreching this story.
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k****m
发帖数: 4670 | 46 希望如此
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 又看了一下，那个回复我的黑人也有一个评论被Pick了。从其行文用词来看，绝非一般
: 黑人，应该是个黑人学者。聪明的黑人还是醒悟了。我们会化险为夷的可能性很大。
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f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 47 又看到一个高端评论：
if african, asian, and indigenous americans had forged alliances based in
our common american experiences, -exclusion, disenfranchisement, and
alienation at the federal level- long ago, we might have not only achieved
greater leverage within this system, but would have also provided much
needed bases for scholarly and critical analyses of america's historic race/
ethnicity issues. unfortunately, we fell for the divide and conquer tactics
that colonizers have historically employed with great success. |
m**********2
发帖数: 61 | |
l******r
发帖数: 18699 | 49 顶 你是条好汉
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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v*******e
发帖数: 11604 | 50 就是个平台发声而已，不用白不用。
hate
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: I am against all petitions to the white house. You see most people here hate
: Obama so much, but still hope Obama to help them. This is so weird.
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C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 51 you want Obama to help you if you post on that website. Obama do not help
racists. man.
【在 v*******e 的大作中提到】
: 就是个平台发声而已，不用白不用。
:
: hate
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h*h
发帖数: 18873 | |
b********d
发帖数: 769 | 53 这娃就是典型的倒洗澡水连盆里的孩子一起倒了。怎一个二字了得！
hate
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: I am against all petitions to the white house. You see most people here hate
: Obama so much, but still hope Obama to help them. This is so weird.
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v*******e
发帖数: 11604 | 54
He himself is a racist。别忘了obason们。
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: you want Obama to help you if you post on that website. Obama do not help
: racists. man.
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C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 55 Now Chinese-Americans, too, find themselves divided.
Some have hesitated, reluctant to find politics or racial discrimination in
the indictment of Officer Liang. Others have hailed the charges against him
as a means of improving relations between the police and all minorities. But
for some, the indictment is nothing less than the scapegoating of a young
officer whose parents may have to live without their only son — and a call
to arms for a minority group that has never been as politically active as
blacks or Hispanics.
【在 v*******e 的大作中提到】
:
: He himself is a racist。别忘了obason们。
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v*******e
发帖数: 11604 | 56 这是好事，因为以前没有divided，都被自恨外发女议员代表。如今我们不认同。
in
him
But
call
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: Now Chinese-Americans, too, find themselves divided.
: Some have hesitated, reluctant to find politics or racial discrimination in
: the indictment of Officer Liang. Others have hailed the charges against him
: as a means of improving relations between the police and all minorities. But
: for some, the indictment is nothing less than the scapegoating of a young
: officer whose parents may have to live without their only son — and a call
: to arms for a minority group that has never been as politically active as
: blacks or Hispanics.
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C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 57 whatever you say, I want Liang jailed.
【在 v*******e 的大作中提到】
: 这是好事，因为以前没有divided，都被自恨外发女议员代表。如今我们不认同。
:
: in
: him
: But
: call
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v*******e
发帖数: 11604 | 58 你自己的话送给你，不要在网上胡混了，赶快找个fuckable去吧。
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: whatever you say, I want Liang jailed.
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C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 59 good night.
【在 v*******e 的大作中提到】
: 你自己的话送给你，不要在网上胡混了，赶快找个fuckable去吧。
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T*******x
发帖数: 8565 | 60 感谢您的努力。
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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m********5
发帖数: 17667 | 61 赞！
华人要表态，站队
但我觉得其实没用，因为人太少，也太穷
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 62 又一个好贴，看看人家美国人把中国人的问题看得如此清楚 - 中国人不斗争，在这个
社会活不下去的。
Generally speaking, the Asian Community is at a severe disadvantage in our
grievance driven Society due to their inherent culture of pride, self
endurance, & compliance. They quietly go about their business educating
their children & working hard, all while building for the future.
You can rest assured that if this officer was of another minority that we
would be hearing screams of injustice. It's high time for the Asian
community to stand up for itself and stop being a doormat.
回复
Absolutely! It's about time Asians stand up for themselves and learn how to
bark back. You have to learn to override the oppressive nature that the
culture was instilled in you back in Asia. It's not an easy adjustment but
it's an absolute necessity to survive in this country. |
l*********u
发帖数: 19053 | 63 赞LZ!
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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m*******n
发帖数: 4186 | 64 ding，人民遭受不幸，主要问题来自他们自己
they
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 又看到一个评论，我认为是所有评论中最深刻最中肯的，不知道是不是中国人写的。此
: 人简直是天才政治家的头脑，把问题的本质看得这么透 - 亚裔被人欺辱其实是亚裔自
: 己的问题：
: He is obviously a scapegoat. I predicted this immediately after reading
: about this incident. He is Asian, expendable, and comes from an immigrant
: population that is indifferent and fearful of causing any waves. The Asian
: politicians quoted in this article are pathetic. Until Asians stand up for
: themselves and put their focus on social issues beyond wealth creation, they
: will always be the unwitting victims in the racial power plays of this
: country.
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v*******e
发帖数: 11604 | |
k****m
发帖数: 4670 | 66 再赞
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 又一个好贴，看看人家美国人把中国人的问题看得如此清楚 - 中国人不斗争，在这个
: 社会活不下去的。
: Generally speaking, the Asian Community is at a severe disadvantage in our
: grievance driven Society due to their inherent culture of pride, self
: endurance, & compliance. They quietly go about their business educating
: their children & working hard, all while building for the future.
: You can rest assured that if this officer was of another minority that we
: would be hearing screams of injustice. It's high time for the Asian
: community to stand up for itself and stop being a doormat.
: 回复
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b**k
发帖数: 163 | 67 写的很棒
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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C*****8
发帖数: 1139 | 68 大赞楼主的思想深度和文笔。
你是华人维权的楷模！
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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a***e
发帖数: 106 | 69 刘方刘方审听我
白鹭烟分光的的
微臣愿献尧人祝
庶俾亿龄禔景福
未知肝胆向谁是
朝来自觉承恩最
珮玉晨趋光景好
紫气红烟鲜的的
留与人间作奇特
应怜死节无门效
于中炼就长生药 |
w******r
发帖数: 3156 | 70 赞楼主
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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w***t
发帖数: 8175 | |
Y*******i
发帖数: 345 | |
x****y
发帖数: 3 | |
s*******1
发帖数: 16479 | 74 呸
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: 煞笔。
:
: is
: Gurley
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s*******1
发帖数: 16479 | |
s*******1
发帖数: 16479 | 76 感谢。
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢你的鼓励。是你们大家的努力使得这个案子在华人世界被广泛传播，签名迅速达到
: 10万。你们的潜力很大，我非常钦佩。还是人多力量大啊。现在你们的努力这么快就有
: 效果了，向你们致意！大家继续努力。
: 就目前情况看我认为梁警官被判误杀罪机会不大了。
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c*****d
发帖数: 6045 | 77 赞！
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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c*****d
发帖数: 6045 | 78 不管有没有用，最少也要发出自己的声音
【在 m********5 的大作中提到】
: 赞！
: 华人要表态，站队
: 但我觉得其实没用，因为人太少，也太穷
:
: is
: Gurley
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t****n
发帖数: 10724 | 79 好！
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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z****1
发帖数: 1103 | 80 做得好！点１万个赞。
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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z****1
发帖数: 1103 | 81 真能给别人归类。嘴巴皮子一张一合就是99% people啥也不知道。
几乎所有的wechat 群都在转梁警官的事件。专门讨论的群５００个名额几天就满了，
然后再继续开群。全美各地人马纷纷在当地媒体发言挺梁。各个华人组织和个人私下里
已经结成松散联盟，为今后的活动做准备。
经过几天的wechat flooding，暂时成立了一个大纽约地区的协调小组。统一行动会在
FB.com/freepeterliang发布。
这里是志愿者们的工作：
helpLiang.com
FB.com/freepeterliang
FB.com/groups/peter.liang
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Akai_Gurley
story.
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: As far as I can tell. 99% people on this board do not know about this story.
: Your are over stretching it.
:
: White
: Toronto
: a
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t*****g
发帖数: 5141 | 82 感谢楼主的用心。华人需要多一些你这样的热情和努力。不要理会那些loser自恨人士
的攻击。 |
n******y
发帖数: 126 | 83 一路坚持到现在不容易。谢谢楼主!赞，赞，赞！
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 又一个好贴，看看人家美国人把中国人的问题看得如此清楚 - 中国人不斗争，在这个
: 社会活不下去的。
: Generally speaking, the Asian Community is at a severe disadvantage in our
: grievance driven Society due to their inherent culture of pride, self
: endurance, & compliance. They quietly go about their business educating
: their children & working hard, all while building for the future.
: You can rest assured that if this officer was of another minority that we
: would be hearing screams of injustice. It's high time for the Asian
: community to stand up for itself and stop being a doormat.
: 回复
|
S*******n
发帖数: 410 | 84 超级赞楼主！
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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G******U
发帖数: 4211 | 85 感谢LZ的努力！从点滴做起。了不起。
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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w**********k
发帖数: 6250 | 86 傻逼
He
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: Let me tell you something. I do not see anything good about Peter Liang. He
: must be a democrat from NYC
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x****3
发帖数: 62 | 87 感谢楼主的努力。勿以善小而不为, 从点滴做起。维护华人利益。 |
n********n
发帖数: 2248 | 88 赞！
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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f******s
发帖数: 713 | |
t*****r
发帖数: 42 | |
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s*******1
发帖数: 16479 | 91 其实很多亚裔都知道这一点，但知道不等于肯站出来抗争。而肯站出来的华裔议员和华
裔人权组织头目们究竟出于什么目的以出卖自己族裔利益为己任真是不得而知
they
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 又看到一个评论，我认为是所有评论中最深刻最中肯的，不知道是不是中国人写的。此
: 人简直是天才政治家的头脑，把问题的本质看得这么透 - 亚裔被人欺辱其实是亚裔自
: 己的问题：
: He is obviously a scapegoat. I predicted this immediately after reading
: about this incident. He is Asian, expendable, and comes from an immigrant
: population that is indifferent and fearful of causing any waves. The Asian
: politicians quoted in this article are pathetic. Until Asians stand up for
: themselves and put their focus on social issues beyond wealth creation, they
: will always be the unwitting victims in the racial power plays of this
: country.
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h*****o
发帖数: 35 | 92 同意！
【在 v*******e 的大作中提到】
: 白宫签名的作用很大一部分是召唤、组织、鼓气、壮胆。上次如果没有得州陈独秀搞的
: 签名，反鸡毛也反不起来。
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l*******s
发帖数: 547 | 93 感动中，要大赞！
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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h*****o
发帖数: 35 | 94 赞楼主！另外只要去做就肯定有用！什么人太少太穷都是借口！
【在 m********5 的大作中提到】
: 赞！
: 华人要表态，站队
: 但我觉得其实没用，因为人太少，也太穷
:
: is
: Gurley
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a**i
发帖数: 178 | |
d*****t
发帖数: 7903 | 96 我直接把他屏蔽了，太污染视觉了，呵呵
【在 b********d 的大作中提到】
: 这娃就是典型的倒洗澡水连盆里的孩子一起倒了。怎一个二字了得！
:
: hate
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d****i
发帖数: 2346 | 97 大赞楼主！不知道用什么语音去支持你。希望像楼主这样有才有能力的人能领导组织华
人团结起来抗争，为我们子孙后代的利益努力。 |
d*****t
发帖数: 7903 | 98 建议lz把优秀评论汇集一下便于下载学习。
这种政治评论我们华人大部分都不太熟悉，这是个好机会。 |
G*****i
发帖数: 896 | 99 楼主写得很好, 这英文在这里绝对top 5%.
那个Calcat真是个attention whore... 真想吸引眼球去英文媒体现呗. |
z******3
发帖数: 1626 | 100 感谢武士的努力。前几天签名时才2千多，现在已经超10万了。很好。华人喜欢息事宁
人，在美国这地，一定要敢发出自己的声音，自己及族群的利益除了自己争取，别人是
不会考虑施舍到你的。 |
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h*********n
发帖数: 11319 | 101 多谢！别理那个傻逼troll就好
【在 z****1 的大作中提到】
: 真能给别人归类。嘴巴皮子一张一合就是99% people啥也不知道。
: 几乎所有的wechat 群都在转梁警官的事件。专门讨论的群５００个名额几天就满了，
: 然后再继续开群。全美各地人马纷纷在当地媒体发言挺梁。各个华人组织和个人私下里
: 已经结成松散联盟，为今后的活动做准备。
: 经过几天的wechat flooding，暂时成立了一个大纽约地区的协调小组。统一行动会在
: FB.com/freepeterliang发布。
: 这里是志愿者们的工作：
: helpLiang.com
: FB.com/freepeterliang
: FB.com/groups/peter.liang
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h*********n
发帖数: 11319 | 102 这个回帖是我近几天看到最精彩的评论
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 又一个好贴，看看人家美国人把中国人的问题看得如此清楚 - 中国人不斗争，在这个
: 社会活不下去的。
: Generally speaking, the Asian Community is at a severe disadvantage in our
: grievance driven Society due to their inherent culture of pride, self
: endurance, & compliance. They quietly go about their business educating
: their children & working hard, all while building for the future.
: You can rest assured that if this officer was of another minority that we
: would be hearing screams of injustice. It's high time for the Asian
: community to stand up for itself and stop being a doormat.
: 回复
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K*****2
发帖数: 9308 | 103 支持一下，但是nyt这种左逼媒体是没有前途的，它该反华的时候还是会反华，在上面
辛辛苦苦按照他们游戏规则码字的其实都很悲哀。
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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v***v
发帖数: 5504 | 104 ding, well done! and thank you!
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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d*****g
发帖数: 4364 | 105 做得好！！！
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
|
s*******1
发帖数: 16479 | 106 鼓掌。应该发出声音
【在 z****1 的大作中提到】
: 真能给别人归类。嘴巴皮子一张一合就是99% people啥也不知道。
: 几乎所有的wechat 群都在转梁警官的事件。专门讨论的群５００个名额几天就满了，
: 然后再继续开群。全美各地人马纷纷在当地媒体发言挺梁。各个华人组织和个人私下里
: 已经结成松散联盟，为今后的活动做准备。
: 经过几天的wechat flooding，暂时成立了一个大纽约地区的协调小组。统一行动会在
: FB.com/freepeterliang发布。
: 这里是志愿者们的工作：
: helpLiang.com
: FB.com/freepeterliang
: FB.com/groups/peter.liang
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l******1
发帖数: 1773 | 107 美国某些华裔议员是干啥吃的，照北边加拿大的那个女议员差太远了，人家就是明白的
帮中国人。 |
m******l
发帖数: 97 | 108 点赞！！！！！！
【在 z****1 的大作中提到】
: 真能给别人归类。嘴巴皮子一张一合就是99% people啥也不知道。
: 几乎所有的wechat 群都在转梁警官的事件。专门讨论的群５００个名额几天就满了，
: 然后再继续开群。全美各地人马纷纷在当地媒体发言挺梁。各个华人组织和个人私下里
: 已经结成松散联盟，为今后的活动做准备。
: 经过几天的wechat flooding，暂时成立了一个大纽约地区的协调小组。统一行动会在
: FB.com/freepeterliang发布。
: 这里是志愿者们的工作：
: helpLiang.com
: FB.com/freepeterliang
: FB.com/groups/peter.liang
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c******0
发帖数: 99 | 109 就是上来给楼主点赞的！！！！！！！！！！！！！！ |
s*********k
发帖数: 4144 | |
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y********e
发帖数: 1428 | 111 给楼主点个赞
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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w****n
发帖数: 25644 | 112 spt
is
Gurley
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 首先，祝贺大家的努力，华人的大签名活动以及各种抗议已经得到主流的注意，今天的
: 纽约时报发表文章专门说“梁警官事件华人社区分离的看法”，貌似很客观地报道了一
: 下华人的主流意见，而且允许评论。
: 400多评论，大多数认为梁警官是被当作了替罪羊。这不仅仅是我的观察，有人看了评
: 论也总结了：A lot of these comments are depressing with most viewing this
: situation through the lenses of whatever ethnic group they belong to with
: most of the sympathy going to the police officer because people think he is
: the hapless victim of scapegoating due to his ethnicity or the difficulty
: inherent in his job. There is relatively little sympathy going to Mr. Gurley
: , who is after all, dead. What about his parents and young daughter?
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d********g
发帖数: 11948 | 113 Cuz he's stated in his op that he's AA. Read w a bit patience before jumping
to conclusion.
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: interesting. how can you tell the poster is a black, not white, ?
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i******b
发帖数: 1780 | 114 It now looks that even you know democrat is no good.
He
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: Let me tell you something. I do not see anything good about Peter Liang. He
: must be a democrat from NYC
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M**********i
发帖数: 427 | 115 左边是犹黑，右边是白鬼。目前对华人来说，不左不右，平衡状态最好。左煤这次表面
帮华人实则反白人，但又不愿帮得太多，从编辑的Pick可以看得出。该反华的时候还是
会反华，这很正常，而且近几年左煤一直在反华。
【在 K*****2 的大作中提到】
: 支持一下，但是nyt这种左逼媒体是没有前途的，它该反华的时候还是会反华，在上面
: 辛辛苦苦按照他们游戏规则码字的其实都很悲哀。
:
: is
: Gurley
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p*****n
发帖数: 294 | 116 美国的法律体系是要尽量避免舆论影响审判，所以这么做没用，只是口头痛快。真想帮
忙的话就设立个基金捐款，像George Zimmerman trial那样做。 |
f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 117 看了这么多网友点赞，我感动高兴的都要流泪了。我感谢你们所有鼓励我的人，我们大
家一起努力，我绝对相信，这次我们能够赢。
华人在觉醒。终于在觉醒了！多么令人欣慰。
上面有网友建议的好，明天我就去把那些很有启发性的评论汇总起来。我还没有读完呢
。 |
o********2
发帖数: 6 | 118 楼主说得很好，英文也棒。谢谢努力！只有一点小建议，在公开场合，对黑人最好要用
African-American,不要用Black，因为很多黑人认为后者有歧视意义。 |
M**********i
发帖数: 427 | 119 其实，争议点是在，司法没有对梁和白人警察同等对待，而不是梁是否有错。所以，斗
争方向不能搞错。一个白人占大多数的司法体系必定会偏袒白人，我们的目标应该是:
司法机构多元化！警察机构貌似多元化，但亚裔，西裔警察总是被派到最危险的地方执
勤，这说明上层还是白人占多数。上次黑人打死两警察，一亚裔，一西裔，不知是否是
他一时找不到白警察的原因。 |
f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 120 谢谢你的提醒，我以后尽可能用African-American。有时候懒得打这么长的名，其实我
知道应该这样的。
我的英文照时间算这么二十来年了只能是一般，而且当时急着发帖，发了以后才发现一
些错误。谢谢褒奖！
【在 o********2 的大作中提到】
: 楼主说得很好，英文也棒。谢谢努力！只有一点小建议，在公开场合，对黑人最好要用
: African-American,不要用Black，因为很多黑人认为后者有歧视意义。
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f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 121 你说的太对了，“其实，争议点是在，司法没有对梁和白人警察同等对待，而不是梁是
否有错。所以，斗争方向不能搞错”
如果仅仅就梁警官案子就事论事，他们有的是理由。
【在 M**********i 的大作中提到】
: 其实，争议点是在，司法没有对梁和白人警察同等对待，而不是梁是否有错。所以，斗
: 争方向不能搞错。一个白人占大多数的司法体系必定会偏袒白人，我们的目标应该是:
: 司法机构多元化！警察机构貌似多元化，但亚裔，西裔警察总是被派到最危险的地方执
: 勤，这说明上层还是白人占多数。上次黑人打死两警察，一亚裔，一西裔，不知是否是
: 他一时找不到白警察的原因。
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f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 122 正是！我们所有华人都应该了解一下别人怎么看我们的，他们从他们的文化角度出发怎
么评价我们的，这样我们才会知己知彼，才会 when in Rome do as Romans do.
【在 h*********n 的大作中提到】
: 这个回帖是我近几天看到最精彩的评论
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f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 123 管它左还是右，反正它就是在美国无人不晓的美国政府的喉舌报。它的动向就是美国政
府的动向。没看见过那些媒体人说吗，其他美国媒体人明天早上起来第一件事就是看纽
约时报观察风向，然后顺风而动。
至于反华，美国不管是左派还是右派，都反华。这些就目前不是我们在梁警官事件的关
注中心了。我们当然要利用这样的平台来表达自己，影响公众舆论。
【在 K*****2 的大作中提到】
: 支持一下，但是nyt这种左逼媒体是没有前途的，它该反华的时候还是会反华，在上面
: 辛辛苦苦按照他们游戏规则码字的其实都很悲哀。
:
: is
: Gurley
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f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 124 左煤这次表面帮华人实则反白人？
他们白人自己反自己啊？不是，是他们想要表现的政治正确，自我标榜公正不阿吧了。
不要忘了这是所谓民主社会，这些媒体都会跟着大多数主流社会人的风走，以安抚公众
，造成公平的印象。比如在佛格森加纳事件，他们看到大多数人都谴责警察，不管这大
多数人是真心还是假意，说不定只是为了表现自己作为美国人的道德感正义心，那媒体
肯定就跟上了。当然其中很多美国人是真正的理想主义者，他们就是相信种族平等和公
正。上次我都给你们转贴过他们的评论，那是真正在同时帮助华人和黑人的。
所以，媒体这样做不是反白人，这是为了大多数白人的需要。道德感的需要。
【在 M**********i 的大作中提到】
: 左边是犹黑，右边是白鬼。目前对华人来说，不左不右，平衡状态最好。左煤这次表面
: 帮华人实则反白人，但又不愿帮得太多，从编辑的Pick可以看得出。该反华的时候还是
: 会反华，这很正常，而且近几年左煤一直在反华。
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z***e
发帖数: 1757 | |
s*******1
发帖数: 16479 | 126 是您在感动我们。深深感谢！亚裔必须团结，必须voice our opinion
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 看了这么多网友点赞，我感动高兴的都要流泪了。我感谢你们所有鼓励我的人，我们大
: 家一起努力，我绝对相信，这次我们能够赢。
: 华人在觉醒。终于在觉醒了！多么令人欣慰。
: 上面有网友建议的好，明天我就去把那些很有启发性的评论汇总起来。我还没有读完呢
: 。
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u*****l
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J*******p
发帖数: 1129 | 128
发信人: JourneyUp (异乡人), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: Re: 好消息，我挺梁警官的评论成了纽约时报编辑pick的评论了 (
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 24 23:36:19 2015, 美东)
发信人: JourneyUp (异乡人), 信区: Parenting
标 题: Re: 好消息，我挺梁警官的评论成了纽约时报编辑pick的评论了 (转载
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 24 00:12:36 2015, 美东)
is
赞！评论的很好！俺的也被pick了。
但是，你注意到吗？Among the 14 NYT picked comments, the one that got the
most thumb ups （156）from readers was based on false information
distributed by the media.
It goes like this: "According to information released by the prosecutor,
Officer Liag and his partner testified that immediately after the shooting,
they rendered no aid to Mr. Gurley. Rather, Officer Liang initially argued
about whether to call in the shooting and worried that he would be fired. He
then called his union rep. His failure to render aid figured into the
decision to charge him. The shooting may well have be an accident, but the
failure to immediate;y render aid to the man he had just shot was no
accident. No doubt in the shock of the moment the officer wasn't thinking
clearly, but it is telling that as Mr. Gurley literally lay dying, Officer
Liang's immediate thoughts were about the impact on his career and not on
the man he had just shot. Hard to see Officer Liang as a victim of
scapegoating here."
这一条comment 被NY Times 推荐，得到最多的thumb up（156），说明纽约时报还在歪
曲事实
，而且误传和谎言还被许多人当作真的接受。事实是：梁在开枪后发text 已经证实并
不是真的。
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/12/peter-liang-akai-gurle
Fliedner, the lead prosecutor in the case, did not mention the order in
court Wednesday. He did say, however, that another report by the Daily News
-- which claimed Liang texted his union representative right after the
shooting -- was false.
这篇文章的comment 已关闭，楼主英文好，继续给报纸写 Letter to Editor, 驳斥谎
言澄清真
相。
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 正是！我们所有华人都应该了解一下别人怎么看我们的，他们从他们的文化角度出发怎
: 么评价我们的，这样我们才会知己知彼，才会 when in Rome do as Romans do.
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J*******p
发帖数: 1129 | 129 你文笔挺好，写信给NY Times 的编辑吧。我这几天实在没那么多时间。另一个资料：
PBA spokesperson, Albert O’Leary, said in an email to BuzzFeed News, “The
Daily News story about the officer texting a union delegate does not appear
to be true. We have over 400 delegates but the ones that serve the area he
was working in did not receive any texts from him.”
写给 [email protected]
/* */ ，或 [email protected]
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f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 130 舆论压力没有用？你当你还活在中国啊，一个党的几个人说了算？老百姓不满镇压就行
了？
这是民主社会，同志。是大多数人的利益和意志在左右这个政府，而同时这个政府又不
得不顾及少数民族的利益和意志，因为这也是保证大多数人需要一个和睦社会的利益的
需要。民众怎么表现自己的利益和意志？那当然就是通过各种渠道发声，包括集会游行
，包括网络媒体。以此形成舆论压力，使得政府不得不不断地调整政策包括自我矫正，
来平衡各个族群之间的利益。法庭仅仅是这些斗争的最后盖棺定论的场所。法律程序根
本不能够起到决定性的作用。
当下发生的事件就是最好的例证。政府包庇了白人警察，因为这是美国主流大多数人白
人的利益。可是黑人不答应，发动了这半年来轰轰烈烈的斗争，为了什么？就是为了造
成对政府的舆论压力。如果不是黑人斗争的压力，白人主流根本就连一个替罪羊都不屑
于找。当然也不屑于搞什么 body camera 一类改革来限制警察暴力。你黑人爱怎么地
怎么地吧。
对华人不就是这样的吗？华人被一家一家的灭门，不要说找真凶，连个替罪羊都不屑于
找，直接就没了下文。或者是一个个莫名其妙地被自杀被意外死了，还连验尸报告都不
给你们。So what,你们华人爱怎么怎么地吧。为什么? 因为华人亚裔从来不像黑人老莫
那样斗争，都跟你一样，相信政府相信党，（Oops,怎么逆生长回中国了？）好吧你说
的是相信政府相信法院。我们不是这样几十年如一日下来的吗？
这样下去，你怎么肯定你就不会是下一个受害者呢？好吧，你说你跟我不一样，要对白
人绝对顺从，绝对臣服，绝对不说个不字。可是梁警官也没有啊。现在不也被当成替罪
羊了吗？好吧，你说你跟梁警官不一样，你绝对不当警察。可是你得开车上路啊，哪一
天你凑巧遇到车祸现场死了人，白人说是你干的，你不会住监狱里住几年啊？好吧，你
说你不开车，那你总得工作吧？哪天你的同事看你实在不爽，报告你性侵犯什么的，你
不做监狱这工作也保不住了吧？好吧，你不工作，有国内来的钱来逍遥，可是你总得上
街啊。有一天你在大街上走着，突然就被一个黑人把你推倒车轱辘下面去了不死也得残
了啊。。。
他们为什么敢？因为你自私懦弱，没有像黑人老莫那样通过斗争监督政府司法机构保护
自己的能力，所以你向所有的白人黑人担保了你是 expendable，可消费的，随便他们
怎么消费，没有任何后果。
难怪西谚曰，性格决定命运。
【在 p*****n 的大作中提到】
: 美国的法律体系是要尽量避免舆论影响审判，所以这么做没用，只是口头痛快。真想帮
: 忙的话就设立个基金捐款，像George Zimmerman trial那样做。
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f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 131 Wah,你的评论也被Pick了，我为我们华人的斗争骄傲！看样子我们的声音正在被听到。
你说这是不是一个形势开始向华人转向的一个征兆？
你是不是那个澄清事发之后梁没有text他的工会的评论？或者是哪一条？是不是那对中
国人理解最深刻的几条，比如我上面抄录的？我敬慕如滔滔江水 ：）
【在 J*******p 的大作中提到】
: 你文笔挺好，写信给NY Times 的编辑吧。我这几天实在没那么多时间。另一个资料：
: PBA spokesperson, Albert O’Leary, said in an email to BuzzFeed News, “The
: Daily News story about the officer texting a union delegate does not appear
: to be true. We have over 400 delegates but the ones that serve the area he
: was working in did not receive any texts from him.”
: 写给 [email protected]
: /* */ ，或 [email protected]
: /* */ 都可以。
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f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 132 澄清小梁走火后没有先联络警察工会是这个案子非常关键的一点，至关重要。因为从各
个媒体的评论来看，对梁责备最多的就是事发后不顾格里，忙着联系警察工会，哪怕那
些认为他被当替罪羊的都这么想。
我看到有个华人在那里一再澄清，一定就是你了吧。向你致敬！
还有既然我们已经澄清了，而且在那里要求了纽约时报公开澄清，他们如果置之不理，
你认为我写信去有用吗？我怀疑。。。
【在 J*******p 的大作中提到】
: 你文笔挺好，写信给NY Times 的编辑吧。我这几天实在没那么多时间。另一个资料：
: PBA spokesperson, Albert O’Leary, said in an email to BuzzFeed News, “The
: Daily News story about the officer texting a union delegate does not appear
: to be true. We have over 400 delegates but the ones that serve the area he
: was working in did not receive any texts from him.”
: 写给 [email protected]
: /* */ ，或 [email protected]
: /* */ 都可以。
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m******e
发帖数: 459 | |
T*******x
发帖数: 8565 | 134 再赞。
【在 J*******p 的大作中提到】
: 你文笔挺好，写信给NY Times 的编辑吧。我这几天实在没那么多时间。另一个资料：
: PBA spokesperson, Albert O’Leary, said in an email to BuzzFeed News, “The
: Daily News story about the officer texting a union delegate does not appear
: to be true. We have over 400 delegates but the ones that serve the area he
: was working in did not receive any texts from him.”
: 写给 [email protected]
: /* */ ，或 [email protected]
: /* */ 都可以。
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m**b
发帖数: 617 | 135 Support LZ!!!! Great work. |
J*******p
发帖数: 1129 | 136
我在最早评论的几个之中，是那个提到NYPD中亚裔比例明显低于人口中亚裔比例，以及
媒体对亚裔的漠视。发了以后过一段时间一看，已经400+ 评论，comment也关闭了。还
是你的好，与黑人读者有很好的互动。
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: Wah,你的评论也被Pick了，我为我们华人的斗争骄傲！看样子我们的声音正在被听到。
: 你说这是不是一个形势开始向华人转向的一个征兆？
: 你是不是那个澄清事发之后梁没有text他的工会的评论？或者是哪一条？是不是那对中
: 国人理解最深刻的几条，比如我上面抄录的？我敬慕如滔滔江水 ：）
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J*******p
发帖数: 1129 | 137
哦，那不是我。我是后来才看到那个得到最多读者点赞的comment，先反驳他，但是
comment已经关了。
我还是觉得写信有用，[email protected]
/* */ 是报纸公共关系部门，类似的读者信多了
，即使他们不发表，也得掂量掂量。
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 澄清小梁走火后没有先联络警察工会是这个案子非常关键的一点，至关重要。因为从各
: 个媒体的评论来看，对梁责备最多的就是事发后不顾格里，忙着联系警察工会，哪怕那
: 些认为他被当替罪羊的都这么想。
: 我看到有个华人在那里一再澄清，一定就是你了吧。向你致敬！
: 还有既然我们已经澄清了，而且在那里要求了纽约时报公开澄清，他们如果置之不理，
: 你认为我写信去有用吗？我怀疑。。。
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C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 138 Do not use this accident for your own gain. If you are for the good of Liang
, donate to him to fight for his best.
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 澄清小梁走火后没有先联络警察工会是这个案子非常关键的一点，至关重要。因为从各
: 个媒体的评论来看，对梁责备最多的就是事发后不顾格里，忙着联系警察工会，哪怕那
: 些认为他被当替罪羊的都这么想。
: 我看到有个华人在那里一再澄清，一定就是你了吧。向你致敬！
: 还有既然我们已经澄清了，而且在那里要求了纽约时报公开澄清，他们如果置之不理，
: 你认为我写信去有用吗？我怀疑。。。
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f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 139 看到了。你写的很好，似乎是华裔社区更深层次的问题。对，我最满意的是与黑人的互
动。
【在 J*******p 的大作中提到】
:
: 哦，那不是我。我是后来才看到那个得到最多读者点赞的comment，先反驳他，但是
: comment已经关了。
: 我还是觉得写信有用，[email protected]
: /* */ 是报纸公共关系部门，类似的读者信多了
: ，即使他们不发表，也得掂量掂量。
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f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 140 我的gain也是梁警官的gain，也是你的gain，你这个son of Da Sha Bi. What do you
think you are? 地上撒泡尿照照，你白人啊？你癞蛤蟆想吃天鹅肉。
Liang
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: Do not use this accident for your own gain. If you are for the good of Liang
: , donate to him to fight for his best.
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C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 141 I am against your stupid petitions to the white house. you think obama will
speak for you racists. go dream.
you
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 我的gain也是梁警官的gain，也是你的gain，你这个son of Da Sha Bi. What do you
: think you are? 地上撒泡尿照照，你白人啊？你癞蛤蟆想吃天鹅肉。
:
: Liang
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f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 142 狗眼看人低，你以为有谁真以为奥巴马要帮华人请愿说话啊？华人不过是造舆论罢了，
而且成功了。
还 "racist",人家打了你个大嘴巴子，你还说该打，你个贱X。
will
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: I am against your stupid petitions to the white house. you think obama will
: speak for you racists. go dream.
:
:
: you
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C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 143 what gain do you want to get for Perter Liang? 华人不过是造舆论罢了? You
want to 造舆论?
Shabi.
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 狗眼看人低，你以为有谁真以为奥巴马要帮华人请愿说话啊？华人不过是造舆论罢了，
: 而且成功了。
: 还 "racist",人家打了你个大嘴巴子，你还说该打，你个贱X。
:
: will
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h********0
发帖数: 12056 | |
f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 145 你已经被人bum FUCK了，你还要说你很爽咩？贱逼。
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: what gain do you want to get for Perter Liang? 华人不过是造舆论罢了? You
: want to 造舆论?
: Shabi.
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C****t
发帖数: 3813 | 146 what gain do you want to get for Perter Liang? dumb.
【在 f********4 的大作中提到】
: 你已经被人bum FUCK了，你还要说你很爽咩？贱逼。
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f********4
发帖数: 2883 | 147 fuck off idiot,贱逼
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】
: what gain do you want to get for Perter Liang? dumb.
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