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发帖数: 1137 | 1 以前看过quora的这个帖子
那还是3年前的帖子，有个貌似美国小白问：今天的伊拉克是不是比萨达姆在的时候更
安全。然后有个刚刚移民来美国的伊拉克小年轻的回帖被推了一千多次。
看了感觉米帝自作孽，潘朵拉盒子开了，仇美恐怖分子跟发豆芽一样。米帝以后苦头有
的吃。美国养了这么多think tank智囊，有屁个智慧。仁义不施而攻守之势易也，老祖
宗诚不我欺也。老将小将都值得看看。
http://www.quora.com/Iraq/Is-Iraq-a-safer-place-now-compared-to
Is Iraq a safer place now compared to what it was like during Saddam Hussein
's regime? And what does the future hold for the country?
Wael Al-Sallami, born and raised in Iraq.
I'm an Iraqi national. I was born in 1988, just four months before the end
of the Iraq-Iran war. I then survived the Iraq-Kuwait war and the American
attack as a 3 year old. I lived through the US-enforced sanctions that did
absolutely nothing to Saddam, although severely harmed Iraqis in so many
ways. And I finally survived yet another war in 2003 and went through the
horrific times that took the lives of so many good people.
But was it really safer back then? Did the Americans really help Iraqis? Was
it worse before 2003?! I think those are all misguided questions, and here'
s why:
Iraq was a really wealthy country back in the 80's, and even though it went
through an eight-year long war against Iran, its economy wasn't affected as
much as one would expect, and Saddam was able to rebuild much of what was
destroyed in a matter of months. But then Kuwait was lowering oil prices to
harm the Iraqi economy in a time we needed money the most.. Saddam tried to
talk them out of it on several occasions, but they didn't back out. So
Saddam came up with the idea that Kuwait was historically a part of Iraq,
and that he should claim it back!
While that claim is in fact historically true, it wasn't exactly right to
just go invade Kuwait and kill everyone there! But he did it anyways. The
result was that the US attacked Iraq, killing many of innocent people in the
process. The Iraqi people fought back fiercely but failed to defend
themselves against the US military might; however, fortunately for Saddam,
the US backed out at the last minute. They later enforced the sanctions that
left Iraq cut out from the rest of the world, and slowly killed the Iraqis!
At the time, my father was a Ph.D student, my mother was a teacher. I had a
little sister and an older brother. And since my father was a government
employee, they paid him while he studied. They paid him 8000 Dinars/month,
the equivalent of $4 at the time. My mother was paid 3000 Dinars/month, the
equivalent of $1.5. A family of 5 was living off of $5.5/month, and that was
the case for pretty much all low-level government employees during the 90's.
It took my father 4 years to finish his Ph.D in 1998. Those 4 years were by
far the worst I've lived, and I've lived through some serious crap, trust me.
After 1998, things started to get just a little bit better. Saddam was
sensing his end, and so he tried to make a few improvements in salaries and
services. He even tried to introduce a controlled-version of satellite TV as
well as wireless cellphones. However, he didn't have time to finish,
because in 2003, America struck again. This time with the intention of
removing Saddam from power, and yet again, killed thousands of innocent
Iraqis in the process. But there was a particular difference this time, the
Iraqi people weren't willing to fight back as hard. They just sat back while
the US Army took over.
And this is why this, and all similar questions, are misguided. Iraq was
safer and much wealthier back in the 80's, it was the United States that
made it so poor and horrible through the 1991 attack and more importantly,
the sanctions. And then, they came back in 2003 to save Iraqi people from
what they've done themselves after Iraqis had grown so sick of their way of
life, so much that they were OK with anyone coming in to change it!
And that, my friend, was the most hypocritical move in modern history! To
add insult to injury, the 2003 war didn't improve things much. It actually
made matters worse! Instead of people living really safely but extremely
poor, the picture flipped and people became somewhat wealthy, but safety was
gone with the wind. People had one Saddam to be afraid of, now they have
hundreds! They used to live safely by keeping their mouth shut, now they
couldn't even if they do. Iraqis were being killed for having the wrong
religion, the wrong place of birth, and a lot of the time, the wrong name.
2006 was worse than 1991 and 2003 combined. Militias took over, and it was
chaos.
After 2007, things started to get a little better. Babylon, the city I lived
in, was getting much safer, but Baghdad, and a few other cities, were still
dangerous. It took some time for them to become relatively stable. But
every now and then, we still got a few car bombings, suicide bombings, or at
least a few kidnappings here and there.
My father started making ~$3K/month, my mother about a quarter of that, and
we lived really comfortably financially. But so far, my brother has survived
one car bombing, and I about four, and that's only because we lived in a
safe city. Chances are I would have already lost a family member if we lived
in Baghdad.
So, there's your answer. I had the opportunity to visit the States for a few
months. I then helped found a startup in NYC upon returning to Iraq, and
finally went back to America for grad school. I now have many good friends
here, and I know how Americans are ashamed of what their country did to mine
. I personally don't blame Americans for all what I and other Iraqis have
been through, but facts remain facts, and a lot of Iraqis hate Americans for
what they did.
I believe that leadership is usually the party responsible for wars, so I
find it sad that no one can see that Americans shouldn't take all the blame,
or even find it in themselves to forgive them. After all, our leadership
also did horrible things to Kuwaitis back in 1991. | p*******9
发帖数: 1860 | 2 米犹智狼有大智慧。
比如1949年推手大陆沦陷，中国的崛起被推迟了至少60年，并且60年后也只能以插管吸
血的姿态崛起，无法威胁米犹。米犹坐享资本人才输入，十亿奴隶劳动成果。
搞乱敌国（世界上所有非美国的国家），米犹才能吸血。 | p********1
发帖数: 2785 | 3 扯什么鸟蛋
【在 p*******9 的大作中提到】
: 米犹智狼有大智慧。
: 比如1949年推手大陆沦陷，中国的崛起被推迟了至少60年，并且60年后也只能以插管吸
: 血的姿态崛起，无法威胁米犹。米犹坐享资本人才输入，十亿奴隶劳动成果。
: 搞乱敌国（世界上所有非美国的国家），米犹才能吸血。
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