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m*r
发帖数: 602
1
China's Superior Economic Model
The free-market fundamentalist economic model is being thrown onto the trash
heap of history.
By ANDY STERN
Andy Grove, the founder and chairman of Intel, provocatively wrote in
Businessweek last year that, "Our fundamental economic beliefs, which we
have elevated from a conviction based on observation to an unquestioned
truism, is that the free market is the best of all economic systems—the
freer the better. Our generation has seen the decisive victory of free-
market principles over planned economies. So we stick with this belief
largely oblivious to emerging evidence that while free markets beat planned
economies, there may be room for a modification that is even better."
The past few weeks have proven Mr. Grove's point, as our relations with
China, and that country's impact on America's future, came to the forefront
of American politics. Our inert Senate, while preparing for the super
committee to fail, crossed the normally insurmountable political divide to
pass legislation to address China's currency manipulation. Secretary of
State Hillary Clinton, former Gov. Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama
all weighed in with their views—ranging from warnings that China must "end
unfair discrimination" (Mrs. Clinton) to complaints that the U.S. has "been
played like a fiddle" (Mr. Romney) and that China needs to stop "gaming" the
international system (Mr. Obama).
As this was happening, I was part of a U.S.-China dialogue—a trip organized
by the China-United States Exchange Foundation and the Center for American
Progress—with high-ranking Chinese government officials, both past and
present. For me, the tension resulting from the chorus of American criticism
paled in significance compared to reading the emerging outline of China's
12th five-year plan. The aims: a 7% annual economic growth rate; a $640
billion investment in renewable energy; construction of six million homes;
and expanding next-generation IT, clean-energy vehicles, biotechnology, high
-end manufacturing and environmental protection—all while promoting social
equity and rural development.
Some Americans are drawing lessons from this. Last month, the China Daily
quoted Orville Schell, who directs the Center on U.S.-China Relations at the
Asia Society, as saying: "I think we have come to realize the ability to
plan is exactly what is missing in America." The article also noted that
Robert Engle, who won a Nobel Prize in 2003 for economics, has said that
while China is making five-year plans for the next generation, Americans are
planning only for the next election.
The world has been made "flat" by the technological miracles of Andy Grove,
Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. This has forced all institutions to confront what
is clearly the third economic revolution in world history. The Agricultural
Revolution was a roughly 3,000-year transition, the Industrial Revolution
lasted 300 years, and this technology-led Global Revolution will take only
30-odd years. No single generation has witnessed so much change in a single
lifetime.
The current debates about China's currency, the trade imbalance, our debt
and China's excessive use of pirated American intellectual property are
evidence that the Global Revolution—coupled with Deng Xiaoping's government
-led, growth-oriented reforms—has created the planet's second-largest
economy. It's on a clear trajectory to knock America off its perch by 2025.
As Andy Grove so presciently articulated in the July 1, 2010, issue of
Businessweek, the economies of China, Singapore, Germany, Brazil and India
have demonstrated "that a plan for job creation must be the number-one
objective of state economic policy; and that the government must play a
strategic role in setting the priorities and arraying the forces of
organization necessary to achieve this goal."
The conservative-preferred, free-market fundamentalist, shareholder-only
model—so successful in the 20th century—is being thrown onto the trash
heap of history in the 21st century. In an era when countries need to become
economic teams, Team USA's results—a jobless decade, 30 years of flat
median wages, a trade deficit, a shrinking middle class and phenomenal gains
in wealth but only for the top 1%—are pathetic.
This should motivate leaders to rethink, rather than double down on an
empirically failing free-market extremism. As painful and humbling as it may
be, America needs to do what a once-dominant business or sports team would
do when the tide turns: study the ingredients of its competitors' success.
While we debate, Team China rolls on. Our delegation witnessed China's
people-oriented development in Chongqing, a city of 32 million in Western
China, which is led by an aggressive and popular Communist Party leader—Bo
Xilai. A skyline of cranes are building roughly 1.5 million square feet of
usable floor space daily—including, our delegation was told, 700,000 units
of public housing annually.
Meanwhile, the Chinese government can boast that it has established in
Western China an economic zone for cloud computing and automotive and
aerospace production resulting in 12.5% annual growth and 49% growth in
annual tax revenue, with wages rising more than 10% a year.
For those of us who love this country and believe America has every asset it
needs to remain the No. 1 economic engine of the world, it is troubling
that we have no plan—and substitute a demonization of government and
worship of the free market at a historical moment that requires a rethinking
of both those beliefs.
America needs to embrace a plan for growth and innovation, with a
streamlined government as a partner with the private sector. Economic
revolutions require institutions to change and maybe make history, because
if they stick to the status quo they soon become history. Our great country,
which sparked and wants to lead this global revolution, needs a forward
looking, long-term economic plan.
The imperative for change is simple. As Andy Grove pointed out: "If we want
to remain a leading economy, we change on our own, or change will continue
to be forced upon us."
Mr. Stern was president of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU)
and is now a senior fellow at Columbia University's Richman Center.
m*r
发帖数: 602
2
原文在这里:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020463090457705649
Comments有1000多了。
p******u
发帖数: 14642
3
大部分的回复都在反对,问题是,用得着这么强烈的去反对么?如果真的是错的话。。。

【在 m*r 的大作中提到】
: 原文在这里:
: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020463090457705649
: Comments有1000多了。

A*****a
发帖数: 52743
4
文章是liberal观点,wsj的读者里保守派比较多

。。

【在 p******u 的大作中提到】
: 大部分的回复都在反对,问题是,用得着这么强烈的去反对么?如果真的是错的话。。。
k**1
发帖数: 1955
5
Fortunately this raticle was written by an white american. If it was
written by a chinese, you can guess what will happen.
My daughter came to US when she was 14, she compared high school education
between US highschool with a chinese school. Her teacher was so upset: How
can your chinese high school is better than US school even in some areas.
Americans need to learn from outside.
m**********n
发帖数: 27535
6
the greatest country on Earth 不需要 learn from outside

【在 k**1 的大作中提到】
: Fortunately this raticle was written by an white american. If it was
: written by a chinese, you can guess what will happen.
: My daughter came to US when she was 14, she compared high school education
: between US highschool with a chinese school. Her teacher was so upset: How
: can your chinese high school is better than US school even in some areas.
: Americans need to learn from outside.

G***G
发帖数: 16778
7
最后一个that指代什么?
For those of us who love this country and believe America has every asset it
needs to remain the No. 1 economic engine of the world, it is troubling
that we have no plan -- and substitute a demonization of government and
worship of the free market at a historical moment that requires a rethinking
of both those beliefs.
我们当中热爱祖国的人相信,美国要维持世界头号经济引擎地位,所需要的资产样样不
缺。但这些人忧心的是我们没有一个规划,有的只是对政府的妖魔化,对自由市场的膜
拜,而当前恰好又是一个要求反思这两种信条的历史时刻。

【在 k**1 的大作中提到】
: Fortunately this raticle was written by an white american. If it was
: written by a chinese, you can guess what will happen.
: My daughter came to US when she was 14, she compared high school education
: between US highschool with a chinese school. Her teacher was so upset: How
: can your chinese high school is better than US school even in some areas.
: Americans need to learn from outside.

e******e
发帖数: 3472
8
看不下去那些comments了,到处都是“天朝上国”的子民啊
H*********S
发帖数: 22772
9
现在的美国类似于清朝末年的中国,自认“天朝上邦”,任何跟美国不同的,就算不是
邪恶的,至少也是愚蠢可笑的。
现在部分美国人已经开始意识到,也许美国并不是一切真理的终极标准,但是要让广大
民众普遍有这种认识,并且seriously省视并着手解决自己的问题,还得再等一段时间。

【在 k**1 的大作中提到】
: Fortunately this raticle was written by an white american. If it was
: written by a chinese, you can guess what will happen.
: My daughter came to US when she was 14, she compared high school education
: between US highschool with a chinese school. Her teacher was so upset: How
: can your chinese high school is better than US school even in some areas.
: Americans need to learn from outside.

l*****i
发帖数: 20533
10
中国这样一个大穷国,有什么资格去给美国做老师?
至少等到中国富裕程度跟美国差不多了,如果中国还能高速发展,那美国学学还有点道
理。
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e******e
发帖数: 3472
11
如果那样的话,岂不是太晚了?得多傻的政府才能拥有这种心态啊

【在 l*****i 的大作中提到】
: 中国这样一个大穷国,有什么资格去给美国做老师?
: 至少等到中国富裕程度跟美国差不多了,如果中国还能高速发展,那美国学学还有点道
: 理。

O*******d
发帖数: 20343
12
美国体制的最大缺点,就是无作为的政府。 在野党的首要任务,就是要让在任总统一
事无成。
p******u
发帖数: 14642
13
跟土鳖当年封关闭国的态度一样一样,不过现在科技太发达,真想封闭还不太行

【在 m**********n 的大作中提到】
: the greatest country on Earth 不需要 learn from outside
p******u
发帖数: 14642
14
社会思维惯性注定米帝子民没个10年8年估计不会意识到自己多孤傲,多无知,多无理
取闹,米帝说自己思维多独立就是个美丽的扯

间。

【在 H*********S 的大作中提到】
: 现在的美国类似于清朝末年的中国,自认“天朝上邦”,任何跟美国不同的,就算不是
: 邪恶的,至少也是愚蠢可笑的。
: 现在部分美国人已经开始意识到,也许美国并不是一切真理的终极标准,但是要让广大
: 民众普遍有这种认识,并且seriously省视并着手解决自己的问题,还得再等一段时间。

p******u
发帖数: 14642
15
大清当年估计也这样看洋彪子的,但等西方在经济科技方面都超越了再玩洋务运动就太
晚了。

【在 e******e 的大作中提到】
: 如果那样的话,岂不是太晚了?得多傻的政府才能拥有这种心态啊
m*r
发帖数: 602
16
美国太民主了,即使有优秀的政治家也无法有效地改革。需要国家开始显著落后,且大
部分国民认识到自身不足才能改进,但这得需要多久啊?从这点看,美国的前途真的很
渺茫。

【在 p******u 的大作中提到】
: 大清当年估计也这样看洋彪子的,但等西方在经济科技方面都超越了再玩洋务运动就太
: 晚了。

c*****i
发帖数: 11737
17
这叫捧杀。 中国离真正的工业强国还有很长的路要走,不要中了敌人的糖衣炮弹。

trash

【在 m*r 的大作中提到】
: China's Superior Economic Model
: The free-market fundamentalist economic model is being thrown onto the trash
: heap of history.
: By ANDY STERN
: Andy Grove, the founder and chairman of Intel, provocatively wrote in
: Businessweek last year that, "Our fundamental economic beliefs, which we
: have elevated from a conviction based on observation to an unquestioned
: truism, is that the free market is the best of all economic systems—the
: freer the better. Our generation has seen the decisive victory of free-
: market principles over planned economies. So we stick with this belief

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