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TG 对媒体控制太差了,米帝有哪家报纸敢歌颂共产党?wikileaks advisory board
伊朗总统内贾德将来华参加上海世博会为什么中共会反wikileak?
伊朗遭制裁后内贾德仍访上海引关注WikiLeaks: China weary of North Korea behaving like 'spoiled child'
《外交政策杂志》2010世界十大恶人为什么上不了wikileaks,是因为美国政府屏蔽吗?
还是看看伊朗总统的发言吧,一个有尊严有信仰的民族a WikiLeak from China's embassy
内贾德舌战拉里金,美国老头屁滚尿流,频频搬出广告做挡箭牌政府官员:讨论Wikileak could endanger your job prospects ZZ
内贾德访谈全文翻译出来了(中英对照)。。。wikileak捅了米疣的G点,paypal也加入了
芮成钢回应争议:亚洲记者都很腼腆wikileaks最近爆出来有啥猛料啊,尤其相关中国的
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J***l
发帖数: 149
1
觉得美国政府是后台,现在正在打伏笔
放出一些东西让世界人民相信Wikileaks的真实性,但到现在为止现没有出现任何对美
国利益有损的信息
以后在关键时刻完全可以放出一些重要信息(不管真假)引起某国家或区域的经济危机
或挑拨起国家间的战争
就像美国现在的评级机构 完全可以受政府控制制造任何国家的债务危机
有可能吗
M*****8
发帖数: 17722
p****g
发帖数: 881
3
不错, 有人开始怀疑米帝特务密探警察操纵wiki了
Some on the Internet Start to Wonder—Is WikiLeaks for Real?
By Behrouz Saba | New America Media | December 02, 2010
The quarter of a million American diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks
reveal that American diplomats have a low opinion of the thuggish Italian
Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi. They call him “feckless.” Equally
underwhelming are the revelations that Nikolas Sarkozy is “temperamental”
and Muammar al-Gaddafi likes flamenco and blondes. What is more, some of
Iran’s Arab neighbors look to Tehran with fear and loathing, Afghan
politicians are corrupt, and American corporations lobby the Congress.
The global media is in a tizzy, repeating the same mundane, stale
information from 251,287 cables released by WikiLeaks, a media organization
that claims a loosely organized network of international contributors.
Curiously, such publications as The New York Times, Der Spiegel, The
Guardian, Le Monde and Spain’s El País have carried the leaks dutifully,
even though their well-policed pages are otherwise governed by highly
divergent philosophies, policies and practices. Even more curiously, all
news organizations repeat the same cherry-picked factoids that their ace
reporters apparently culled from the documents.
No wonder that some on the Internet believe WikiLeaks to be a “false flag”
operation—part of a Big Lie mounted by the American intelligence community.
Julian Assange, the curious-looking founder of WikiLeaks—a cross between
Casper the Friendly Ghost and Illya Kuryakin of the 1960s TV spy series The
Man from U.N.C.L.E.—has the kind of checkered, globe-trotting past that
makes him a prime recruit for intelligence services.
At the same time, most Americans quickly dismiss these charges, asking why
their government would covertly conspire to release information that is
potentially damaging to itself.
A closer look shows the many ways that these revelations bolster the status
quo in Washington. They mainly deflect public attention from far more urgent
issues—including a broken economy, dysfunctional governmental services,
Obama’s chimera of hope and change, and a general hollowing out of America
at its core, commensurate with its imperial reach.
More than that, the leaks characterize an increasingly unaccountable United
States as the “victim,” equate investigative journalism with treason, and
communicate without repercussion Washington’s frank opinion of world
leaders with whom it is less than pleased. (It doesn’t hurt the Obama
administration a bit for the world to know that certain Arab capitals are
just as opposed to the Ahmadinejad regime as Tel Aviv is.)
Anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of spy craft and the long
history of similar false-flag operations would never question the benefits
of such ruses to preserving many vested interests. This history includes the
Gulf of Tonkin report, the counterproductive “war on drugs,” and “
detection” of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, to name just a few.
Yet the majority of Americans would be hard pressed to name even one or two
agencies in the vast, well-funded intelligence apparatus that sucks up their
taxes while remaining virtually unanswerable to them and their elected
representatives.
In reality, the system is composed of 16 agencies whose existence is
verifiable and another six that are thought to act in total secrecy. Most
Americans know about the Central Intelligence Agency, but it is among the
smallest, least well-funded of the group, which is mostly under the Pentagon
command with a total annual budget of nearly $50 billion. The fact that the
State, Treasury and Energy departments also have covert operations will
come as a surprise to many Americans. Asking people on Main Street to define
the functions of the National Security Agency, the National Reconnaissance
Office or the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency is sure to invite
blank stares.
America’s covert machinery, easily the largest in world history, reaches
every corner of the globe, gathering, hiding, publishing or distorting
information to suit its own purposes. On its payroll are politicians and
artists, scions of noble families and common gangsters, visionaries,
crackpots, assassins and healers the world over.
It would not be surprising at all if WikiLeaks were being used by this
intelligence network to do its bidding, knowingly or otherwise. Surely this
would explain the almost comical spectacle of WikiLeaks “releasing” tons
of potentially damaging information while America’s entire intelligence
community merely whimpers like a whipped dog— as if the U.S. were not
capable of moving the website out of civilian reach and erasing it from
existence as easily as it introduced the Stuxnet virus to the computers of
an Iranian nuclear plant. (Overshadowed by the WikiLeaks’s non-news was the
Monday morning bombing in Tehran that killed one Iranian nuclear scientist
and injured another.)
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton must be trying hard to keep a straight
face as she “apologizes” for or otherwise “explains” the words of the
bad boys and girls of American diplomacy. Equally constrained must be
Attorney General Eric Holder, who speaks of an “active and ongoing criminal
investigation” of WikiLeaks. Sorely missing is a voice sufficiently
powerful within the government or major media to question this global
spectacle, which doesn’t pass the smell test on many levels.
p****g
发帖数: 881
4
傻逼TG要是学到米帝特务控制术一半的话就会这样做:
1。 国家级的新闻发布会上直接了当说‘米帝特务有嫌疑’
2。 米帝说no
3。 TG说没有调查就不知道真相
4。 米帝说木有
5。 TG再进一步: 说有证据掌握米帝特务嫌疑, 要求公开米帝特务资料给国际社会调查
6。 米帝说不可能
7。 Tg说米帝隐藏真相, 不透明
8。 米帝说绝无此事
9。 TG说需要直接介入米帝特务组织, 并举例米帝特务战争罪行, 要求阳光政策
10。 米帝o00000
11。 TG aaaaaaaa
。。。。。。
1000000。 米帝o00000
1000001。 TG aaaaaaaa
。。。。。。。如此几十万个回合口水仗, 把米帝定在战争,罪犯,阴谋,不透明,控制舆论的靶子上。
TG唯一需要做的就是不停地报道指责每次和米帝黑老大开会的时候都在新闻发布会上提
, 年年提, 月月提, 日日提,几百美金的成本给米帝头上扣屎盆子。
米帝特务组织本来就是恶行累累,臭名昭著。TG就拿
来当猴子耍耍玩, 逗逗乐。
这就是标准的米帝西洋骗术流氓手法搞米帝,日子长了, 自然相信的人越来
越多。尤其米帝恶棍在墙倒众人推的情况下。
J***l
发帖数: 149
5


I believe this
美国民众虽傻 但政府智库绝对世界第一 第二还差老远呢
从wikileaks公布中国领导对朝鲜半岛态度(时间巧合让人惊讶)和发起Google hack就
开始觉得不对劲了

【在 p****g 的大作中提到】
: 不错, 有人开始怀疑米帝特务密探警察操纵wiki了
: Some on the Internet Start to Wonder—Is WikiLeaks for Real?
: By Behrouz Saba | New America Media | December 02, 2010
: The quarter of a million American diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks
: reveal that American diplomats have a low opinion of the thuggish Italian
: Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi. They call him “feckless.” Equally
: underwhelming are the revelations that Nikolas Sarkozy is “temperamental”
: and Muammar al-Gaddafi likes flamenco and blondes. What is more, some of
: Iran’s Arab neighbors look to Tehran with fear and loathing, Afghan
: politicians are corrupt, and American corporations lobby the Congress.

a*********y
发帖数: 926
6
我觉得唯一有一个好
就是当事的政府知道究竟是不是这样
虽然咱们民众还是秉持怀疑的态度

【在 J***l 的大作中提到】
: 觉得美国政府是后台,现在正在打伏笔
: 放出一些东西让世界人民相信Wikileaks的真实性,但到现在为止现没有出现任何对美
: 国利益有损的信息
: 以后在关键时刻完全可以放出一些重要信息(不管真假)引起某国家或区域的经济危机
: 或挑拨起国家间的战争
: 就像美国现在的评级机构 完全可以受政府控制制造任何国家的债务危机
: 有可能吗

b*********d
发帖数: 3539
7
美帝在第二步的时候就已经开始升值压力,民族自治压力,人权压力,半岛无核压力了
。半夜党中央收到一封email,三个字:no z turn.

调查

【在 p****g 的大作中提到】
: 傻逼TG要是学到米帝特务控制术一半的话就会这样做:
: 1。 国家级的新闻发布会上直接了当说‘米帝特务有嫌疑’
: 2。 米帝说no
: 3。 TG说没有调查就不知道真相
: 4。 米帝说木有
: 5。 TG再进一步: 说有证据掌握米帝特务嫌疑, 要求公开米帝特务资料给国际社会调查
: 6。 米帝说不可能
: 7。 Tg说米帝隐藏真相, 不透明
: 8。 米帝说绝无此事
: 9。 TG说需要直接介入米帝特务组织, 并举例米帝特务战争罪行, 要求阳光政策

n****o
发帖数: 2339
8
从挑拨中朝的这一点看,其实是挑拨美国战略攻击朝鲜,那中国必然反击,所以其实是
挑拨中美关系。这么一来谁好处最多?
欧洲或者俄国。
如果美国想和朝鲜或者中国单挑,前两天北朝鲜打炮应该早就上了。所以美国没事泄这
个干吗。
从资料量上来说,不象是一个两个人泄露,没有一个强大的组织在后面,不太可能完成
。从截获那么大量的各大使馆资料说,可能只有俄国和法国英国有这个能力。
所以我个人感觉可能不是欧洲就是俄国,最大可能是俄国和欧洲合伙干的。

【在 J***l 的大作中提到】
: 觉得美国政府是后台,现在正在打伏笔
: 放出一些东西让世界人民相信Wikileaks的真实性,但到现在为止现没有出现任何对美
: 国利益有损的信息
: 以后在关键时刻完全可以放出一些重要信息(不管真假)引起某国家或区域的经济危机
: 或挑拨起国家间的战争
: 就像美国现在的评级机构 完全可以受政府控制制造任何国家的债务危机
: 有可能吗

J***l
发帖数: 149
9

会不会是这样:
美国不想打朝鲜 也害怕军演的时候事情激化 但美帝觉得朝鲜的嚣张是因为朝鲜以为
自己不管怎样都会有中国最后救火 所以公布出这样一段cable让朝鲜知道后果严重性啊

【在 n****o 的大作中提到】
: 从挑拨中朝的这一点看,其实是挑拨美国战略攻击朝鲜,那中国必然反击,所以其实是
: 挑拨中美关系。这么一来谁好处最多?
: 欧洲或者俄国。
: 如果美国想和朝鲜或者中国单挑,前两天北朝鲜打炮应该早就上了。所以美国没事泄这
: 个干吗。
: 从资料量上来说,不象是一个两个人泄露,没有一个强大的组织在后面,不太可能完成
: 。从截获那么大量的各大使馆资料说,可能只有俄国和法国英国有这个能力。
: 所以我个人感觉可能不是欧洲就是俄国,最大可能是俄国和欧洲合伙干的。

m*****5
发帖数: 23482
10
感觉这事情跟陈冠希当年差不多,扑朔迷离啊
L***n
发帖数: 6727
11
朝鲜跟中国没有渠道了?要靠看美国的小道消息决定中国的态度?

性啊

【在 J***l 的大作中提到】
:
: 会不会是这样:
: 美国不想打朝鲜 也害怕军演的时候事情激化 但美帝觉得朝鲜的嚣张是因为朝鲜以为
: 自己不管怎样都会有中国最后救火 所以公布出这样一段cable让朝鲜知道后果严重性啊

J***l
发帖数: 149
12

震摄朝鲜的同时还加深了朝对中以后任何态度的怀疑 让中也无退路

【在 L***n 的大作中提到】
: 朝鲜跟中国没有渠道了?要靠看美国的小道消息决定中国的态度?
:
: 性啊

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