S**********b
发帖数: 3142 | 1 http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2010/12/02/what-is-a-college-degree-worth-in-china
你们看了没？
那些到美国来念教育的 都是些什么烂人啊？
指责所有中国学生 almost useless, lack of creativity, only a little better
than the migrant workers?
这是打在所有在美的我们的脸上
那些在科技界辛苦奋斗出来的赢得的 一点 respect 也要被他们损伤
不记得当年德国人，或者说整个欧洲，想杀掉所有犹太人的时候，
大家看看那些文章，报纸，杂志，通篇所讲的就是
犹太人一无是处， lack of creativity! | h*******u
发帖数: 15326 | | D********n
发帖数: 1161 | 3 让他们哀号吧！让他们诅咒吧！
"让那些内外反动派在我们的面前发抖把，让他们说我们这也不行，那也不行吧。中国
人民不屈不挠地努力，必将稳步地达到自己的目的"。
请看下面的视频联结：
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTg5NTcwNTY=.html
【在 S**********b 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2010/12/02/what-is-a-college-degree-worth-in-china
: 你们看了没？
: 那些到美国来念教育的 都是些什么烂人啊？
: 指责所有中国学生 almost useless, lack of creativity, only a little better
: than the migrant workers?
: 这是打在所有在美的我们的脸上
: 那些在科技界辛苦奋斗出来的赢得的 一点 respect 也要被他们损伤
: 不记得当年德国人，或者说整个欧洲，想杀掉所有犹太人的时候，
: 大家看看那些文章，报纸，杂志，通篇所讲的就是
: 犹太人一无是处， lack of creativity!
| t*h
发帖数: 922 | | E*V
发帖数: 17544 | 5 午见到，他们是
【在 S**********b 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2010/12/02/what-is-a-college-degree-worth-in-china
: 你们看了没？
: 那些到美国来念教育的 都是些什么烂人啊？
: 指责所有中国学生 almost useless, lack of creativity, only a little better
: than the migrant workers?
: 这是打在所有在美的我们的脸上
: 那些在科技界辛苦奋斗出来的赢得的 一点 respect 也要被他们损伤
: 不记得当年德国人，或者说整个欧洲，想杀掉所有犹太人的时候，
: 大家看看那些文章，报纸，杂志，通篇所讲的就是
: 犹太人一无是处， lack of creativity!
| m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 6 高登常脸皮比wagmal都厚，值得学习
【在 t*h 的大作中提到】
: debaters里面有老熟人啊，黄亚生和高登常
| g*****1
发帖数: 666 | 7 对高等肠的评论最有喜感
Few Promising Opportunities
Updated December 3, 2010, 06:44 PM
Gordon G. Chang is the author of "The Coming Collapse of China" and a
columnist at Forbes.com.
Is a Chinese college degree important? It is if you want to shovel excrement
in Wenzhou. The prosperous city in Zhejiang province this year advertised
for college graduates to fill eight spots collecting “night soil.” More
than 1,100 of them applied for the jobs. In these circumstances, skipping
college to work as a migrant laborer looks like a smart career move.
It doesn’t take a college degree to figure out why blue-collar pay will
increase, while the salaries of degree-holders will go down. .So does
joining the People’s Liberation Army. It wasn’t long ago that the military
couldn’t attract degree-holders. No more. In 2009, 120,000 college
graduates joined the P.L.A. That was three times the number in the preceding
year and 12 times more than in 2006.
The People’s Liberation Army -- and the armies of night soil collectors --
have begun to attract college graduates because few promising opportunities
are available for them in other fields. These days, they'd even covet jobs
as domestic servants and nannies.
Experts say that salaries for college students generally rise after
graduation. Yet the pay prospects for migrants and blue-collar workers may
be even brighter. Why? Beijing’s poorly conceived population policies
created an extraordinary bulge in the work force, and the members of the
bulge are now retiring in great numbers.
As they retire, China’s work force will quickly shrink. The country has
been short of labor since 2004, and the number of workers will level off
soon. Chinese demographers think that will happen sometime between 2013 and
2016.
It doesn’t take a college degree to figure out that migrant and blue-collar
pay is set to increase. The pool of laborers that is shrinking the fastest
is at the bottom end of the wage scale. The number of college graduates,
however, has been soaring by about 30 percent a year this decade. The law of
supply and demand says that lower-rung pay packets will climb -- and the
salaries of degree-holders will fall.
Some say China’s dynamic economy will “upscale” so fast that bottom-tier
manufacturing will migrate to Vietnam and Bangladesh. Yes, outsourcing will
act as a brake on worker compensation, but the effect will not be great.
Companies will move out of China -- and lose the substantial advantages of
superb infrastructure and large networks of suppliers -- only after wages
have risen substantially and it becomes clear they will climb indefinitely.
For the foreseeable future, blue-collar wages will go up at a far greater
rate than higher-level compensation.
My wife and I stopped to talk to two peddlers outside the Foxconn plant in
Longhua this August. They had laid out a blanket on the sidewalk to display
their wares, balsa model kits. “The workers have lots of money,” said one
of them. They, on the other hand, did not. The pair, part of a bigger group
of street hawkers, had not sold many kits that week. One was a college
student in faraway Sichuan province, majoring in petroleum. The other hoped
to be an engineer. They said peddling was the best job they could find.
8 Readers' CommentsPost a comment » All CommentsHighlightsReader
RecommendationsReplies.8. blinded1
USA
December 3rd, 2010 5:17 pmWhat opportunity it could be if the country is to
collapse soon anyway?
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Reported .7. aha2010
nyc
December 3rd, 2010 3:07 pmI think it's same everywhere, regardless of
whether you are in China or in U.S. If you have an education that's
marketable, then you will have a job, maybe even a good one. If you studied
some non-marketable subject, then you get to be a waiter or paddler.
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Reported .6. PC
Brooklyn, NY
December 3rd, 2010 12:50 pmI think the major problem is that China is the
center of producing cheap goods and there are just too many white collar
graduates competing for these blue collar jobs. In the Chinese Media, the
government is trying to wean away from producing cheap goods. They are
targeting alternative energy, biotechnology, new generation information
technology, high-end equipment manufacturing, advanced materials and
alternative- fuel cars.
I also think that the Chinese government have to work with the universities
on promoting research for post grad students instead of putting them into
the job market. They have to also fund the Chinese government agencies on
doing research also.
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Reported .5. Unemployed Attorney
Boston, MA
December 3rd, 2010 12:12 pmIt's good to know that America can still export
our cultural capital. Seriously, substitute "America" for "China," "no jobs
whatsoever" for "migrant work," and add the phrase "buried under hundreds of
thousands of dollars of nondischargeable student loans," and this is an
article about the doomed Generation Yers who made the mistake of attending a
college not named Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn, Chicago, MIT, Stanford,
Columbia, Williams, or Wellesley, and therefore unworthy of employment these
days.
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Reported .4. Ben
Austin
December 3rd, 2010 12:09 pmWhy are American college students worth so much
more than a migrant laborer? Maybe the economic imbalance in the US is
misshaping our expectations and the Chinese experience is the new normal.
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Reported .3. RH
Washington, D.C.
December 3rd, 2010 11:47 amThat may be true, Ron, but we also have no
respect for blue collar work. What has happened to us that we've reached the
point that our college graduates would rather move back in with their
parents because they feel that they are above certain types of work? The
baby boomers have destroyed this country's work ethic, social fabric, and
ability to compromise to solve difficult problems.
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Reported .2. Ron Bannon
Newark, NJ
December 3rd, 2010 7:02 amAnd it's any different here? What's worse here, is
that Americans have no respect for being educated.
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Reported .1. Yu Weijie
Wuhan, China
December 3rd, 2010 3:27 amOh! As a Chinese college student, I am
experiencing the pressure of subsistence.
Recommend Recommended Recommended by 5 Readers | a********6
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【在 m**********n 的大作中提到】
: 高登常脸皮比wagmal都厚，值得学习
| t*****k
发帖数: 2547 | 9
【在 D********n 的大作中提到】
: 让他们哀号吧！让他们诅咒吧！
: "让那些内外反动派在我们的面前发抖把，让他们说我们这也不行，那也不行吧。中国
: 人民不屈不挠地努力，必将稳步地达到自己的目的"。
: 请看下面的视频联结：
: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTg5NTcwNTY=.html
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