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T****t
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美帝右派已经把这看成有利于中国人的提案了。 所以这下提案根本通不过的。
https://cis.org/North/View-Left-HR-1044-Trumps-Tax-Bill-Gift-Haves
View from the Left: HR 1044 is – like Trump’s Tax Bill – a Gift to the
Haves
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By David North on July 10, 2019
As a dyed-in-the wool, life-long, New Deal Democrat, I am equally opposed to
the GOP-backed Trump Tax Law as I am to the Democrat-backed HR 1044, the so
-called "Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2019", which seeks to
damage our nearly 100-year-old tradition of numerically-limited immigration.
The reason: both the tax bill and HR 1044 do exactly the same thing: they
bring unneeded additional benefits to the Haves, and provide no benefits to
the Have Nots.
As my colleague Jessica Vaughan wrote recently, House Democrats were trying
to move ahead the misnamed "Fairness to High Skilled Immigrants Act" on a
consensus calendar without hearings or committee votes. The bill would not
lift the total number of green cards issued, but it would speed up issuances
for people from nations sending us large number of immigrants, notably
those from China and from India, the second and fourth largest producers of
immigrants. Mexico is first, Cuba is third.
More precisely, currently no more than 7 percent of any category of
admissions may go to people from any one nation. The bill would eliminate
that ceiling, which has created large backlogs of would-be migrants from
China and India, in the employment-based groupings, and raise it to 15
percent in the family-based migration categories.
The bill favors four already lucky groups of Haves while disadvantaging
everyone else:
the high-tech industries that use the H-1B program to increase their already
high profits;
the big city (notably Manhattan) real estate developers in the EB-5 program;
rich Chinese in the same immigrant investor program; and
upper crust Indian nationals in the H-1B program.
The Winners and What They Win
Big Tech wins because it will allow a large number of Indian nationals who
are now on their payrolls as H-1B temporary workers to get green cards; this
will dampen down some of the unrest currently in H-1B ranks as Indian and
Chinese aliens with these visas have chafed at the length of time to the
green card. There are at least some reports that some H-1Bs have moved on to
Canada and other nations with shorter waiting periods.
Big City Developers win because the new law would, similarly, soothe the
anxieties of would be Chinese investors (who get a family-sized set of green
cards for their half-million dollar investment) and allow the users of the
EB-5 program to continue to raise most of their money in China, as opposed
to having to set up EB-5 attracting programs in other parts of the globe.
Rich Chinese seeking visas in the EB-5 program would be big winners, as they
would get their green cards much sooner, and in many cases avoid the
problem of their older children "aging out" of the program, as they reach
their 21st birthday.
Upper Crust Indians, i.e., those with enough money to get a college degree,
either there or here (with the system tilting toward those with U.S. masters
' degrees) would, similarly, have less waiting time in the H-1B status to
the issuance of green cards. Within the large class of Indians in the H-1B
program, those favored by this law are those also well-regarded by their
employers, otherwise they would not have filed for the green cards, so it is
not all H-1Bs who are getting a break, it is those that employers favor. (
There are no such complications in the EB-5 program, all EB-5 visa holders
from a given nation are treated the same.)
Partial Winners and Partial Losers
Would be family immigrants. The Declaration of Independence states that all
men are created equal; HR 1044 has a more nuanced view of would-be
immigrants, they fall into three categories:
fully favored: employment-based, would be migrants from China and India, and
a handful of Vietnamese investors;
partially favored: family-based would-be migrants from Mexico and the
Philippines;
never favored: all other would-be migrants from all over the world.
Largely overlooked is a distinction in the bill between the elimination of
the country of origin ceiling of 7 percent for the employment-based
categories, and the substitution of 15 percent for 7 percent among the
family-based migrants. This means that the Indians and the Chinese go to the
head of the line, squeezing out others, in the EB-categories, but there is
only a partial similar benefit for the backlogged folk from Mexico and the
Philippines (some of whom are now waiting for 24 years for the visas set
aside for the married sons and daughters of U.S. citizens.)
It doesn’t say so in so many words, or in neon lights, but HR 1044 says in
effect: Chinese, Indians and a few Vietnamese are more important than
Mexican Nationals and Filipinos, and all six groups are superior to all
other would-be immigrants. How any member of the Hispanic Caucus could vote
for such a bill – casting a group of Mexican Nationals as second-class non-
citizens, puzzles me.
HR 1044's provisions reminds me of the old country-of-origin system we had
in place prior to 1964, except that the old system tilted sharply against
Asia (and for Mexico) while the new one does exactly the reverse.
The Total Losers, and What they Lose
American Workers. Any program change that strengthens the H-1B program,
which has close to a million semi-indentured workers in it, means that fewer
citizens and green card holders are hired in these reasonably well-paying
jobs.
American Investors. The principal use of EB-5 funds is to provide what is
known in the trade as "mezzanine financing", that is loans without liens, to
big city real estate developers; routinely EB-5 investors get 1 or at most
2 percent for their money, while the market rate is as high as 10 percent.
So U.S. investors are being shunned in favor of EB-5 ones.
I must say that this is not a population to spend many tears on; these are
passive investors who probably do not know that they are being discriminated
against as they have many other investment opportunities. Though I have
been writing about EB-5 for years, it did not dawn on me until recently that
this was a group hurt by the program; it certainly is not an organized
group.
Would-be immigrants from the rest of the world. Generally, for every HR-1044
-favored would-be migrant who would get a visa faster there is a non-favored
would-be migrant who will have to wait much longer than previously. These
are in both employment-based and in family-based migrant categories, so if
you are an Argentinian, a Belizean, a Canadian or a Dane, or an Estonian or
a Fijian, and you have a green card visa waiting for you, HR-1044 will set
back your dreams for years.
Suggestion
Instead of either expanding the number of these visas, or juggling them in
the HR-1044 fashion, we should simply stop issuing new backlog-creating
visas until the backlogs have dissipated. This would not reduce overall
immigration – a useful goal, to be sure – but it would, over a decade,
reduce the backlogs considerably.
In addition – because some on the backlog lists have lost interest in
coming here -- we could further shorten the lists by offering those on them
$500 or $1,000 to get out of the queue.
L********e
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产党又给我们美华立功了?
x****o
发帖数: 29677
3
参议院有两党34位议员联署
里面有多位两党大佬,很多个committee的chair都在联署里面
另外跟风联署里有参院民主党秘书和竞选总统的加州哈里斯都联署,证明民主党风向就
是不反对
共和党著名的反移民大佬格老也同意了因为该法案加入了H1B的内容
联署的大佬们多来自中西部
什么叫过不了,现在是没有黑天鹅不出意外就能过
f********g
发帖数: 32
4
哈哈, 华人躺枪

to
so
immigration.

【在 T****t 的大作中提到】
: 美帝右派已经把这看成有利于中国人的提案了。 所以这下提案根本通不过的。
: https://cis.org/North/View-Left-HR-1044-Trumps-Tax-Bill-Gift-Haves
: View from the Left: HR 1044 is – like Trump’s Tax Bill – a Gift to the
: Haves
: FacebookTwitterRedditLinkedInEmailCopy LinkPrint
: By David North on July 10, 2019
: As a dyed-in-the wool, life-long, New Deal Democrat, I am equally opposed to
: the GOP-backed Trump Tax Law as I am to the Democrat-backed HR 1044, the so
: -called "Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2019", which seeks to
: damage our nearly 100-year-old tradition of numerically-limited immigration.

c******t
发帖数: 944
5
那还反对个屁

【在 x****o 的大作中提到】
: 参议院有两党34位议员联署
: 里面有多位两党大佬,很多个committee的chair都在联署里面
: 另外跟风联署里有参院民主党秘书和竞选总统的加州哈里斯都联署,证明民主党风向就
: 是不反对
: 共和党著名的反移民大佬格老也同意了因为该法案加入了H1B的内容
: 联署的大佬们多来自中西部
: 什么叫过不了,现在是没有黑天鹅不出意外就能过

V*******n
发帖数: 1
6
白皮严重低估了黄疮的傻逼程度。
x****o
发帖数: 29677
7

我老好心给大家提供一个思路吧
现在是靠反对不能阻止,那怎么办,就要支持,掺沙子
比如纽约著名的参议员民主党舒默,多喜欢非法移民啊
那么大家给舒默写信,不应该反对,反过来应该坚持增加绿卡名额,再加上非移最好,
这样掺了沙子的必死
这是唯一的出路

【在 c******t 的大作中提到】
: 那还反对个屁
w*p
发帖数: 16484
8
你这么牛咋只会在军版发表高见?

【在 x****o 的大作中提到】
:
: 我老好心给大家提供一个思路吧
: 现在是靠反对不能阻止,那怎么办,就要支持,掺沙子
: 比如纽约著名的参议员民主党舒默,多喜欢非法移民啊
: 那么大家给舒默写信,不应该反对,反过来应该坚持增加绿卡名额,再加上非移最好,
: 这样掺了沙子的必死
: 这是唯一的出路

c*********n
发帖数: 1282
9
这个法案没有改变移民总量,但降低了粪坑国的移民人数(阿三算粪坑吗?)。美国人
不在乎吧。
a***r
发帖数: 2677
10
其他国家的白大爷怎么办?
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l**p
发帖数: 6080
11
红脖子看到新闻里说中国人受益必定反对
所以大家不用太担心乌央乌央的烙印

【在 f********g 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈, 华人躺枪
:
: to
: so
: immigration.

r**m
发帖数: 446
12
这么搞,打电话给senator, 要求支持法案,说中国人的技术好,比如5G,有上千的
huawei工程师想移民美国帮助MAGA.

【在 l**p 的大作中提到】
: 红脖子看到新闻里说中国人受益必定反对
: 所以大家不用太担心乌央乌央的烙印

T****t
发帖数: 11162
13
给卢比奥发信,以中国人的名义支持着议案,说说中国大量科技者就靠着来美国效力了。
撸比奥 必然是 Over my dead body


: 我老好心给大家提供一个思路吧

: 现在是靠反对不能阻止,那怎么办,就要支持,掺沙子

: 比如纽约著名的参议员民主党舒默,多喜欢非法移民啊

: 那么大家给舒默写信,不应该反对,反过来应该坚持增加绿卡名额,再加上非移
最好,

: 这样掺了沙子的必死

: 这是唯一的出路



【在 x****o 的大作中提到】
:
: 我老好心给大家提供一个思路吧
: 现在是靠反对不能阻止,那怎么办,就要支持,掺沙子
: 比如纽约著名的参议员民主党舒默,多喜欢非法移民啊
: 那么大家给舒默写信,不应该反对,反过来应该坚持增加绿卡名额,再加上非移最好,
: 这样掺了沙子的必死
: 这是唯一的出路

h****g
发帖数: 11365
14
这个是正确的路线。目前先搞死再说。捧杀
N**********n
发帖数: 1
15
掺沙子技术是前十几年移民法案过不了的原因,你觉得这次会有区别吗

【在 x****o 的大作中提到】
:
: 我老好心给大家提供一个思路吧
: 现在是靠反对不能阻止,那怎么办,就要支持,掺沙子
: 比如纽约著名的参议员民主党舒默,多喜欢非法移民啊
: 那么大家给舒默写信,不应该反对,反过来应该坚持增加绿卡名额,再加上非移最好,
: 这样掺了沙子的必死
: 这是唯一的出路

k*****a
发帖数: 7389
16
大家快叫如婊出来,说这法案是中国政府安插更多间谍的背后操作,说不定可以扳回
t*******y
发帖数: 2570
17
高招!

了。

【在 T****t 的大作中提到】
: 给卢比奥发信,以中国人的名义支持着议案,说说中国大量科技者就靠着来美国效力了。
: 撸比奥 必然是 Over my dead body
:
:
: 我老好心给大家提供一个思路吧
:
: 现在是靠反对不能阻止,那怎么办,就要支持,掺沙子
:
: 比如纽约著名的参议员民主党舒默,多喜欢非法移民啊
:
: 那么大家给舒默写信,不应该反对,反过来应该坚持增加绿卡名额,再加上非移
: 最好,
:
: 这样掺了沙子的必死
:
: 这是唯一的出路

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