j*****1
发帖数: 75 | 1 一直有过敏性鼻炎,十几年了.13年去年开始有浓痰,咳嗽.去拍了CT,医生说所有鼻窦都
感染
了,14年7月初做了手术,一直吃 prednisome 和 amox- clav, 洗鼻子. 之后还是有感染
,医生还是开了prednisome 和 amox- clav. 11月去查没事了, 以为没有感染了. 12月
又开始有浓痰, 15年一月 查出positive for Klebsiella oxytoca. 医生让吃
augmentin , 还用topical tobramycin. 吃augmentin 的时候没痰了,也不头疼了,上星
期吃完了. 昨天又头疼. 不知道怎么办啊.
Klebsiella oxytoca 是不是很难杀死啊, 不知道会不会引起其他部位感染. 星期一准
备打电话给医生. | L*****i
发帖数: 237 | 2 Klebsiella oxytoca克雷伯氏菌是比较顽固的细菌，容易对抗生素产生耐药性。但它对
大蒜素敏感。民间用大蒜液治鼻炎有不错的效果，大蒜的抗菌作用非常好。可将大蒜一
瓣捣烂，用少许凉开水泡浸，制成大蒜液，然后滴入每个鼻孔２到３滴(可能会有一点
刺激，开始时先用稍稀的大蒜液，慢慢适应)，再用手压几下鼻翼使鼻孔内都能粘到大
蒜液。鼻腔粘膜毛细血管丰富，大蒜素随血液传到发炎的患部，产生抗菌消炎作用。如
果怕这种菌会感染到身体的其他部位，服用大蒜液也可预防，将生蒜切碎拌在粥里吃也
行。
【在 j*****1 的大作中提到】
: 一直有过敏性鼻炎,十几年了.13年去年开始有浓痰,咳嗽.去拍了CT,医生说所有鼻窦都
: 感染
: 了,14年7月初做了手术,一直吃 prednisome 和 amox- clav, 洗鼻子. 之后还是有感染
: ,医生还是开了prednisome 和 amox- clav. 11月去查没事了, 以为没有感染了. 12月
: 又开始有浓痰, 15年一月 查出positive for Klebsiella oxytoca. 医生让吃
: augmentin , 还用topical tobramycin. 吃augmentin 的时候没痰了,也不头疼了,上星
: 期吃完了. 昨天又头疼. 不知道怎么办啊.
: Klebsiella oxytoca 是不是很难杀死啊, 不知道会不会引起其他部位感染. 星期一准
: 备打电话给医生.
| c********p
发帖数: 322 | 3 Klebsiella is part of the normal flora in human nose, mouse and GI. You will
never get rid of it without causing severe side effect. So 1L please shut
up. If you cannot kill E coli completely, then you cannot kill Klebsiella
completely. It is the same principle.
If Klebsiella is the only thing that causes trouble, please check yourself
for other medical conditions that lowers your immune. Steroid happens to be
one of the things that could cause that. So does DM, chronic disease and so
on.
Infection and fluid accumulation are different problems. | B****J
发帖数: 586 | 4 说的好！
will
be
so
【在 c********p 的大作中提到】
: Klebsiella is part of the normal flora in human nose, mouse and GI. You will
: never get rid of it without causing severe side effect. So 1L please shut
: up. If you cannot kill E coli completely, then you cannot kill Klebsiella
: completely. It is the same principle.
: If Klebsiella is the only thing that causes trouble, please check yourself
: for other medical conditions that lowers your immune. Steroid happens to be
: one of the things that could cause that. So does DM, chronic disease and so
: on.
: Infection and fluid accumulation are different problems.
| L*****i
发帖数: 237 | 5 Allicin from garlic may not kill Klebsiella completely，however, bacterial
growth can be restrained by allicin without causing serious side effects.
will
be
so
【在 c********p 的大作中提到】
: Klebsiella is part of the normal flora in human nose, mouse and GI. You will
: never get rid of it without causing severe side effect. So 1L please shut
: up. If you cannot kill E coli completely, then you cannot kill Klebsiella
: completely. It is the same principle.
: If Klebsiella is the only thing that causes trouble, please check yourself
: for other medical conditions that lowers your immune. Steroid happens to be
: one of the things that could cause that. So does DM, chronic disease and so
: on.
: Infection and fluid accumulation are different problems.
| c********p
发帖数: 322 | 6 So you know nothing about medicine.
Let's say even if allicin does work on bacterial growth reduction.
Exactly what bacterial? How much allicin do you need. How much allicin each
split of garlic has. How much you can extract by putting garlic in water.
How often do you need to use it. How does it get into the sinus. Why only
one piece of garlic. Can I use two or three each time. Water soluble drug is
easily washed off and how do you maintain local concentration.
Anyone with basic medical knowledge knows not enough concentration means
useless. And how to maintain local concentration of drug is a million dollar
question.
So please shut up and read some professional medical books first.
[在 Lingzhi (灵芝) 的大作中提到：]
：Allicin from garlic may not kill Klebsiella completely，however, bacterial
：growth can be restrained by allicin without causing serious side effects.
：........... | L*****i
发帖数: 237 | 7 What I am talking about is an effective sinus home remedy. Garlic is food,it
's very safe.
each
is
dollar
【在 c********p 的大作中提到】
: So you know nothing about medicine.
: Let's say even if allicin does work on bacterial growth reduction.
: Exactly what bacterial? How much allicin do you need. How much allicin each
: split of garlic has. How much you can extract by putting garlic in water.
: How often do you need to use it. How does it get into the sinus. Why only
: one piece of garlic. Can I use two or three each time. Water soluble drug is
: easily washed off and how do you maintain local concentration.
: Anyone with basic medical knowledge knows not enough concentration means
: useless. And how to maintain local concentration of drug is a million dollar
: question.
| c********p
发帖数: 322 | 8 Do you have legit research or statistical results to prove that it is
effective. And if you do, you will be able to answer the questions I asked
before. Those are general questions any medication or treatment will provide
before it goes to the public.
And you still cannot answer the questions I asked. Say something useful
please.
Just read some professional medical books please. It is not that hard. So I
was right, you know nothing about medicine. Please stop pretending you know
anything.
I get it that you want to promote traditional medicine and you make it seem
like you are an expert on that. Then please go back to China and practice
your traditional medicine there. They need expert like you badly. Chinese
relational medicine is banned by FDA for a reason, your previous posts are
exactly why.
[在 Lingzhi (灵芝) 的大作中提到：]
：What I am talking about is an effective sinus home remedy. Garlic is food,
it's very safe.
：
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