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MedicalCareer版 - Medicine is not a science?
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b*******s
发帖数: 954
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记得豆角在面试时遇到过类似的问题。
看到UTMB的M.D.& Ph.D. program的mission statement,
http://www.utmb.edu/mdphd/curriculum/ProgramPhilosophy.html
里面讲到 "medicine is not a science"
"Medicine is not a science. Medicine is a practical endeavor whose
objective is to do the best for the patient. While obtaining knowledge is
frequently necessary, knowledge in itself is never the goal of medicine.
In fact, the good clinician must always balance the benefits of diagnostic
testing against the costs, time and risks that come with it. Because of
the need to act before it is too late, uncertainty must be tolerated. The
clinician must have a basic knowledge of the broad scope of medical
science, but rarely has time to go into great depth."
很困惑,大家讨论一下吗?
r*********s
发帖数: 1027
2
说的很对啊。医学发展的过程,是探索科学的过程。但医生最终是要治人,不仅仅是治
病。

【在 b*******s 的大作中提到】
: 记得豆角在面试时遇到过类似的问题。
: 看到UTMB的M.D.& Ph.D. program的mission statement,
: http://www.utmb.edu/mdphd/curriculum/ProgramPhilosophy.html
: 里面讲到 "medicine is not a science"
: "Medicine is not a science. Medicine is a practical endeavor whose
: objective is to do the best for the patient. While obtaining knowledge is
: frequently necessary, knowledge in itself is never the goal of medicine.
: In fact, the good clinician must always balance the benefits of diagnostic
: testing against the costs, time and risks that come with it. Because of
: the need to act before it is too late, uncertainty must be tolerated. The

A*******s
发帖数: 9638
3
Modern western Medicine is science. You only believe what you have seen.
All assumptions could end up wth wrong diagnosis. It happens all the time.
Chinese medicine is not science.
s*******w
发帖数: 1879
4
催稿!!!!!!!
ps: medicine is indeed no-science.

【在 r*********s 的大作中提到】
: 说的很对啊。医学发展的过程,是探索科学的过程。但医生最终是要治人,不仅仅是治
: 病。

A*******s
发帖数: 9638
5
God cures the human; Doctor treats the disease.

【在 r*********s 的大作中提到】
: 说的很对啊。医学发展的过程,是探索科学的过程。但医生最终是要治人,不仅仅是治
: 病。

A*******s
发帖数: 9638
6
In christianity, knowledge is sin.
Enough has been said.
y*c
发帖数: 247
7
I think it depends on how you interpret the definition and scope of medicine
. If you think medicine only involve in diagnosis and treatment, medicine is
probably not science. It only uses the results of scientific studies. If
you think medicine also includes understanding the underlying mechanism of
diseases and study about the effectiveness of medication and treatment, I
think medicine is science.
M****R
发帖数: 32
8
Modern western Medicine is scientific, but still is not science.
The essence of medicine is to service.
But science is for nothing, it is its own reward, just like virtue is its
own reward.

【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: Modern western Medicine is science. You only believe what you have seen.
: All assumptions could end up wth wrong diagnosis. It happens all the time.
: Chinese medicine is not science.

r*********s
发帖数: 1027
9
好啊好啊,我加油。主要是一上网东逛西逛就顾不上填坑了

【在 s*******w 的大作中提到】
: 催稿!!!!!!!
: ps: medicine is indeed no-science.

r*********s
发帖数: 1027
10
是啊。
科学技术只是一方面,最终的关键是用户体验。

【在 M****R 的大作中提到】
: Modern western Medicine is scientific, but still is not science.
: The essence of medicine is to service.
: But science is for nothing, it is its own reward, just like virtue is its
: own reward.

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A*******s
发帖数: 9638
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Medicine is the science and art of healing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicine
我想这么说比较好: medicine is not only the science。
记得我做resident时, 医院院长最爱说的就是, Patients coming to hospital are
not for physicians but hospital services.
这么说有他的道理。 但没有医生到医院去, 他的医院开得下去吗?
这帮老家伙其实就是别出心裁, 语不惊人死不休。 不要太认真了。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science
k********n
发帖数: 756
12
Medicine is purely evidence based. Science is the enterprise in the form of
testable explanation and predictions.
Medicine is not science. If someone practice medicine with scientific rigor,
he will be hated by residents and laughed by his collegues although be
loved by medical students.
k********n
发帖数: 756
13
We treat the patient

【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: God cures the human; Doctor treats the disease.
m********4
发帖数: 607
14
It may be helpful to have a clear concept first.
(1) What is science?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science
(2) What is art?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Is_Art%3F
(3) What is medicine?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicine
s********o
发帖数: 3319
15
发现fiona居然没有跳这个坑,这么好的辩论的话题 LOL
R******f
发帖数: 32
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Medicine is a science based art form. It got the elements of both science and
art. It is like the blind man and the elephant. Science and art are not
exclusive. :-)
Full disclosure: No offense to anyone. It is just a metaphor. No one is
blind here.

【在 m********4 的大作中提到】
: It may be helpful to have a clear concept first.
: (1) What is science?
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science
: (2) What is art?
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Is_Art%3F
: (3) What is medicine?
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicine

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