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发帖数: 5829 | 1 关于医生的工作和生活及其他--写给Dr.逆风和其他CMG
Dr.逆风，
快乐医生是社区医院的DEPT椅子，MASHENGLI也算前辈了，而且他们俩都是内科从业
早多年的了，说话大概还是比你有资格和更接近现实，至少比你看的经历的事多多了。
确实，你看到的目前，只是大的ACADEMIC单位的现实，我在UC做科研时的老板--器
官移植外科医生，才拿20万，每日为GRANT和文章挠头。他跟我说，若去挣钱的话拿
75万到一个米没问题，可人家不去，当然，他老婆是放射科医生，有米了。
霍普金斯外科病理主任，那是全世界都闻名的牛头，外面给2个米，人家就是不去，
拿的银子跟俺的才毕业没多久的同行差不多。你比吗？比什么？银子数？那不气死
了？
这完全取决于个人，在大学单位的除极个别外，挣得都比非ACADEMIC少多了，但这是
愿打愿挨的事情。我自己现在也就接近20万吧，比俺同班毕业到公司或PRIVATE GROUP的
少很多，有的是我挣的4倍！我无所谓，时不时有猎头会打电话给我：30万出头，接
不接？俺没兴趣。俺一般就说：有一个米的你再来骚扰我吧--堵回去。
钱，这事到一定程度，就是数字而已，没有本质差别 | M*2
发帖数: 45 | | c********n
发帖数: 4762 | 3 有时不是用钱作为标准的, 但是没有钱是万万不能的, 你拿的是20万,学校不还给你买
的保险吗, 这是很大的开支. 20万其实也是比你要辛苦的过的RESEARCH PROFESSOR的2
倍甚至2.5倍.
退一步讲, 如果你的工资和RESEARCH PROFESSOR一样高(中国80年代), 你还会在美国考
医生吗?
所以你现在的选择是基于金钱(俗了点)和兴趣的平衡.
BY THE WAY, 30万出去(自己买保险,工作时间长, 没有自由,更高的OBAMA的TAX)真比不
上20万在学校(学校的保险和律师, 10% retirement match, tuition discount for
spouse and children 等等).
LZ还是我的偶像, 你家的人都好牛啊.
我喜欢做医生, 我也喜欢钱. | U******u
发帖数: 5829 | 4 没有钱是万万不能的,true, I love money too, although I don't get million$,
but good enough for me and my family.
yeah, $200k maybe similar to many private group which offer $300-400K.
BTW, BOS: our Univ/hosp offer much better retirement: 11.5% (Univ)/24.5% (
Hosp) for clinicians, for those hosp plan only doc, that means, get 1/4 more
salary $.
hohoho.......
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【在 c********n 的大作中提到】
: 有时不是用钱作为标准的, 但是没有钱是万万不能的, 你拿的是20万,学校不还给你买
: 的保险吗, 这是很大的开支. 20万其实也是比你要辛苦的过的RESEARCH PROFESSOR的2
: 倍甚至2.5倍.
: 退一步讲, 如果你的工资和RESEARCH PROFESSOR一样高(中国80年代), 你还会在美国考
: 医生吗?
: 所以你现在的选择是基于金钱(俗了点)和兴趣的平衡.
: BY THE WAY, 30万出去(自己买保险,工作时间长, 没有自由,更高的OBAMA的TAX)真比不
: 上20万在学校(学校的保险和律师, 10% retirement match, tuition discount for
: spouse and children 等等).
: LZ还是我的偶像, 你家的人都好牛啊.
| a*********d
发帖数: 2763 | 5 thanks for the encouraging picture, i do need some light at the tunnel to
motivate myself. attendings here are so busy it is just pain in the neck to
find them staffing, and i have bunch of teams chasing me for magic answers..
. should just do the hospitalist, calling consult, 7 on and 7 off, hehe. | e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 6 You don't want to be bored with bread and butter cases only, right? The
beginning of a fellowship isn't easy because people let you play an expert's role. With your dedication and hard work, you'll eventually become a true expert in your field. By that time you'll be much more confident and comfortable.
【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: thanks for the encouraging picture, i do need some light at the tunnel to
: motivate myself. attendings here are so busy it is just pain in the neck to
: find them staffing, and i have bunch of teams chasing me for magic answers..
: . should just do the hospitalist, calling consult, 7 on and 7 off, hehe.
| U******u
发帖数: 5829 | 7 true, especially for those--academic oriented, or ambitious for something
guys,
easy job with big money may not be interesting, but, boring!
in pathology, if going to diagnostic company, I can easily earn $300+k/yr,
but if ask me to sgin those cases which need me only a scan with one second,
daily so boring job, I never go that $300k/yr job.
When I had my IV for job in a big Cancer center, Chair told me similar story
got $350k/yr w/ bonus, after 2 yrs, he couldn't do it any more and back to
aca | a**e
发帖数: 5094 | 8 刚开始做consult都这感觉
to
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【在 a*********d 的大作中提到】
: thanks for the encouraging picture, i do need some light at the tunnel to
: motivate myself. attendings here are so busy it is just pain in the neck to
: find them staffing, and i have bunch of teams chasing me for magic answers..
: . should just do the hospitalist, calling consult, 7 on and 7 off, hehe.
| p***0
发帖数: 22 | 9 医生是真正的主流职业。作为一个普通人可能没有更好的职业了。真正辛苦的人很少，
但那多是挣大钱的主。要是只瞄２０W，DAMN EASY！BEST LIFE STYLE YOU CAN EXPECT
IF YOU JUST WANT TO HAVE AN ORDINARY LIFE。
The working load is far less than postdoc in a lab or an employee in Walmart
.You will have plenty of sparetime if not too greedy. Above all, you have
the freedom to change at any time if dislike. The real harsh time is in the
training, limited to 3-6 yrs only. But the importance for trainee is
needless to mention. As a fellow, I used to see 20-30 inhouse p |
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