n*****e
发帖数: 40 | 1 我个人感觉挺好的，老公觉得有没有不是什么big deal，大家觉得呢？有什么优缺点？
比如朝向重要吗？下雨会不会进水？冬天的暖气费用会不会很贵？新手开始看房，多谢
啦。 |
g*k
发帖数: 1797 | 2 住在东部地区的时候没见过walk out，来到中西部地区才见。Realtor说有walkout的房
子好卖，她还解释说当孩子长大了，有了自己的想法，会希望住在basement，然后有个
walkout，差不多他就是独立了。不过有小小孩的得管住那扇门。朝向感觉还是挺重要
的，要是朝北那就终年见不到阳光了，因为walkout的另外一边通常是在地下的。暖气
费用什么的不是很清楚，如果你有zoning的可能会好一些吧。
不过我们最终买的没有walkout，不是不喜欢，是没找到。 |
S**********s
发帖数: 2033 | 3 据说walkout能给房子增值。但是一般walkout basement的房子地形一般是个坡，我们
的agent说，从风水来讲，这个坡的方向要冲着房子来，这样的话下雨的话，水都冲着
房子来了。
不过很想问大家，如果basement连walkup都没有，你们会买这个房子吗？ |
t**s
发帖数: 1393 | 4 没有缺点，只有优点
另外，点名批评楼上的 agent，动辄往风水上扯:) |
h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 5 两边都是WO的话，房子都是在高点，把这种agent fire掉吧。
【在 S**********s 的大作中提到】
: 据说walkout能给房子增值。但是一般walkout basement的房子地形一般是个坡，我们
: 的agent说，从风水来讲，这个坡的方向要冲着房子来，这样的话下雨的话，水都冲着
: 房子来了。
: 不过很想问大家，如果basement连walkup都没有，你们会买这个房子吗？
|
p*****e
发帖数: 16417 | 6 我也觉得有没有不是什么big deal。
【在 n*****e 的大作中提到】
: 我个人感觉挺好的，老公觉得有没有不是什么big deal，大家觉得呢？有什么优缺点？
: 比如朝向重要吗？下雨会不会进水？冬天的暖气费用会不会很贵？新手开始看房，多谢
: 啦。
|
k**a
发帖数: 131 | 7 个人觉得walk out的好，空气好，光线足，地下室的基本能当房间使用了。
【在 n*****e 的大作中提到】
: 我个人感觉挺好的，老公觉得有没有不是什么big deal，大家觉得呢？有什么优缺点？
: 比如朝向重要吗？下雨会不会进水？冬天的暖气费用会不会很贵？新手开始看房，多谢
: 啦。
|
l*****g
发帖数: 3084 | 8 walkout 的房子，地基不好坐稳
【在 n*****e 的大作中提到】
: 我个人感觉挺好的，老公觉得有没有不是什么big deal，大家觉得呢？有什么优缺点？
: 比如朝向重要吗？下雨会不会进水？冬天的暖气费用会不会很贵？新手开始看房，多谢
: 啦。
|
m*****u
发帖数: 19562 | 9 aglee!!!
【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: walkout 的房子，地基不好坐稳
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g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 10 Compare to what, full basement? partial basement? no basement? walk up
basement? craw space? slab?
Hard to tell you 优缺点 if I do not know what you try to compare?
【在 n*****e 的大作中提到】
: 我个人感觉挺好的，老公觉得有没有不是什么big deal，大家觉得呢？有什么优缺点？
: 比如朝向重要吗？下雨会不会进水？冬天的暖气费用会不会很贵？新手开始看房，多谢
: 啦。
|
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T*U
发帖数: 22634 | 11 冬天夏天都耗电。
【在 n*****e 的大作中提到】
: 我个人感觉挺好的，老公觉得有没有不是什么big deal，大家觉得呢？有什么优缺点？
: 比如朝向重要吗？下雨会不会进水？冬天的暖气费用会不会很贵？新手开始看房，多谢
: 啦。
|
H****3
发帖数: 618 | 12 俺们是walkout地下室，感觉挺好
也给房子增值 |
s**********d
发帖数: 36899 | 13 basement boy啊，长大了还赖在家里不走，被父母赶到地下室去住。
东部有的是walkout，有的地方不适合有basement，有的话都是walkout。
【在 g*k 的大作中提到】
: 住在东部地区的时候没见过walk out，来到中西部地区才见。Realtor说有walkout的房
: 子好卖，她还解释说当孩子长大了，有了自己的想法，会希望住在basement，然后有个
: walkout，差不多他就是独立了。不过有小小孩的得管住那扇门。朝向感觉还是挺重要
: 的，要是朝北那就终年见不到阳光了，因为walkout的另外一边通常是在地下的。暖气
: 费用什么的不是很清楚，如果你有zoning的可能会好一些吧。
: 不过我们最终买的没有walkout，不是不喜欢，是没找到。
|
h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 14 我这里新小区80个lot，剩下的多是靠大路或者不是WO的。
【在 p*****e 的大作中提到】
: 我也觉得有没有不是什么big deal。
|
h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 15 不是WO容易有地下室漏水的问题
【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: walkout 的房子，地基不好坐稳
|
s**********d
发帖数: 36899 | 16
嗯，我们那有basement的话都是walkout，比没有的同样房子贵几万。
【在 H****3 的大作中提到】
: 俺们是walkout地下室，感觉挺好
: 也给房子增值
|
g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 17 Not really, depending on where you live. If you live in New Orleans, no
matter where you did a basement, you will have water problem. Somearea, you
will never have water problem.
Location makes a big difference.
【在 h*d 的大作中提到】
: 不是WO容易有地下室漏水的问题
|
g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 18 It cost money to dig a basement, so it should cost more because the more
material and labor involved.
【在 s**********d 的大作中提到】
:
: 嗯，我们那有basement的话都是walkout，比没有的同样房子贵几万。
|
h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 19 NO的房子一般没有地下室吧。我是说对比FB/LO和WO
you
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Not really, depending on where you live. If you live in New Orleans, no
: matter where you did a basement, you will have water problem. Somearea, you
: will never have water problem.
: Location makes a big difference.
|
h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 20 it depends on the site, not exactly how you dig it.
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: It cost money to dig a basement, so it should cost more because the more
: material and labor involved.
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g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 21 I thought you are comparing a house with basement with a house without a
basement.
Anysite is possible to dig a basement, although a slopped site is easier to
dig for a walk out basement.
【在 h*d 的大作中提到】
: it depends on the site, not exactly how you dig it.
|
h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 22 it only make sense to compare LO/FB to WO in the same region.
there is zoning and developer decides if a site can be LO/FB or WO, if you
dig it into WO, you will have problem and wont be approved by developer or
the city, as far as I know. well, unless you can dig around the entire area
and change all the zoning, like in simcity...
to
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: I thought you are comparing a house with basement with a house without a
: basement.
: Anysite is possible to dig a basement, although a slopped site is easier to
: dig for a walk out basement.
|
m***y
发帖数: 14763 | 23 New England这边basement能walkout算是个plus |
g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 24 Zoning in the area I live is like residential, mixed residential-commercial,
commercial, industrial and special. Within residential zoning there are sub
zoning that determine what kind of house you can build, such as RS-1 is for
single family, you can not build a multi family unit, I have never heard of
zoning can determine if you can dig for a basement or not.
But I do not know the laws of the area you live, you could be right.
Anyone else here can share your local zoning laws.
area
【在 h*d 的大作中提到】
: it only make sense to compare LO/FB to WO in the same region.
: there is zoning and developer decides if a site can be LO/FB or WO, if you
: dig it into WO, you will have problem and wont be approved by developer or
: the city, as far as I know. well, unless you can dig around the entire area
: and change all the zoning, like in simcity...
:
: to
|
R**R
发帖数: 3318 | 25
这平地上挖的basement 没有walkout.
没basement: ok.
有basement: better，
有walkout basement: best.
【在 S**********s 的大作中提到】
: 据说walkout能给房子增值。但是一般walkout basement的房子地形一般是个坡，我们
: 的agent说，从风水来讲，这个坡的方向要冲着房子来，这样的话下雨的话，水都冲着
: 房子来了。
: 不过很想问大家，如果basement连walkup都没有，你们会买这个房子吗？
|
R**R
发帖数: 3318 | 26 谁说的？
【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: walkout 的房子，地基不好坐稳
|
R**R
发帖数: 3318 | 27
Walkout 不是走水的。地下室漏不漏水和WO没关系。
【在 h*d 的大作中提到】
: 不是WO容易有地下室漏水的问题
|
l*****g
发帖数: 3084 | 28 walkout level的地基不容易做稳
如果是walkup stair的没问题。
【在 R**R 的大作中提到】
: 谁说的？
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h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 29 I probably used the wrong word here as I dont know as much as you do. but
from what I observe locally, those lot types cannot be changed easily
FB/LO/WO all have basements, so it's not about whether you can dig a basement or not.
commercial,
sub
for
of
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Zoning in the area I live is like residential, mixed residential-commercial,
: commercial, industrial and special. Within residential zoning there are sub
: zoning that determine what kind of house you can build, such as RS-1 is for
: single family, you can not build a multi family unit, I have never heard of
: zoning can determine if you can dig for a basement or not.
: But I do not know the laws of the area you live, you could be right.
: Anyone else here can share your local zoning laws.
:
: area
|
h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 30 FB has the full basement underground, LO has basement mostly underground as
well. WO is on a slope, so the water can go pass the house, that's my
understanding, it could be wrong.
【在 R**R 的大作中提到】
:
: Walkout 不是走水的。地下室漏不漏水和WO没关系。
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g***w
发帖数: 742 | 31 我也比较喜欢带walkout basement
万一将来经济出了问题，把下面一层租出去，互不打搅 |
R**R
发帖数: 3318 | 32
想法有问题。
应该是万一将来孩子多了，有地儿玩儿，经济会越来越好。
【在 g***w 的大作中提到】
: 我也比较喜欢带walkout basement
: 万一将来经济出了问题，把下面一层租出去，互不打搅
|
g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 33 Let me share with you my experience.
I have a relative flat lot, but when I build my house, I hired a excavation
company to dig the basement and change the grading (slope a little bit) A
lot of dirt was digged up and pushed around to make the current landscape. (
this have nothing to do with the pond I dig up if you read my other posts
before, that was done a year later).
So, right now, I have 3 levels of basement, top level is what you call walk
out, front half is half under dirt, back half is
【在 n*****e 的大作中提到】
: 我个人感觉挺好的，老公觉得有没有不是什么big deal，大家觉得呢？有什么优缺点？
: 比如朝向重要吗？下雨会不会进水？冬天的暖气费用会不会很贵？新手开始看房，多谢
: 啦。
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h********y
发帖数: 3778 | 34 holy...敬仰下。。。最深的地方挖了54 ft!
excavation
(
walk
level
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Let me share with you my experience.
: I have a relative flat lot, but when I build my house, I hired a excavation
: company to dig the basement and change the grading (slope a little bit) A
: lot of dirt was digged up and pushed around to make the current landscape. (
: this have nothing to do with the pond I dig up if you read my other posts
: before, that was done a year later).
: So, right now, I have 3 levels of basement, top level is what you call walk
: out, front half is half under dirt, back half is
|
h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 35 自己买地自己整这种太牛了，不过自己挖了这么深，雨水不会聚集到这块原来是平地，
现在凹下去的地方么？
【在 h********y 的大作中提到】
: holy...敬仰下。。。最深的地方挖了54 ft!
:
: excavation
: (
: walk
: level
|
g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 36 I have 16 sump pumps and 14 independent air exchanges planed strategically.
Plus most of the rain water is collected to water my garden.
【在 h*d 的大作中提到】
: 自己买地自己整这种太牛了，不过自己挖了这么深，雨水不会聚集到这块原来是平地，
: 现在凹下去的地方么？
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h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 37 你这个情况在这里算独一份了吧，一般开发商搞出来的地皮都不让改grade了，这么多
sump pump还是因为水多吧，多大的地？万一断电都有battery backup还是有generator
？这么多sump pump还是说明这种平地挖出来的地下室容易有水的问题啊，正常walk
out感觉水可以顺着坡流到后面地势低的地方。
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: I have 16 sump pumps and 14 independent air exchanges planed strategically.
: Plus most of the rain water is collected to water my garden.
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g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 38
Just in case, cheap extra insurance, some pump never run, only 2 pumps run
when there is lots of rain.
万一断电都有battery backup还是有generator
I have a mirco turbine generator, no battery back up, too much on going cost
to replace after a few years.
【在 h*d 的大作中提到】
: 你这个情况在这里算独一份了吧，一般开发商搞出来的地皮都不让改grade了，这么多
: sump pump还是因为水多吧，多大的地？万一断电都有battery backup还是有generator
: ？这么多sump pump还是说明这种平地挖出来的地下室容易有水的问题啊，正常walk
: out感觉水可以顺着坡流到后面地势低的地方。
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h********y
发帖数: 3778 | 39 显然是高端的custom home了。
虽然说大部分人买的都是tract home,但也应该让俺们开开眼界看看不一样的是不？
gezhi就是开发商他怕who啊，哈哈
这样的房子肯定有generator萨～
是有水的问题，挖basement都会有这个问题需要解决的，解决好就成啦
generator
【在 h*d 的大作中提到】
: 你这个情况在这里算独一份了吧，一般开发商搞出来的地皮都不让改grade了，这么多
: sump pump还是因为水多吧，多大的地？万一断电都有battery backup还是有generator
: ？这么多sump pump还是说明这种平地挖出来的地下室容易有水的问题啊，正常walk
: out感觉水可以顺着坡流到后面地势低的地方。
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h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 40 living版以前有car dealer, broker,原来还有land developer，种类真是丰富啊。不
过LO/FB比WO可能多些水的问题引起的basement leak应该还是占得住脚的。
【在 h********y 的大作中提到】
: 显然是高端的custom home了。
: 虽然说大部分人买的都是tract home,但也应该让俺们开开眼界看看不一样的是不？
: gezhi就是开发商他怕who啊，哈哈
: 这样的房子肯定有generator萨～
: 是有水的问题，挖basement都会有这个问题需要解决的，解决好就成啦
:
: generator
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g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 41 Not really 高端, the whole house was build for less than $400K years ago
without counting the lot cost.
【在 h********y 的大作中提到】
: 显然是高端的custom home了。
: 虽然说大部分人买的都是tract home,但也应该让俺们开开眼界看看不一样的是不？
: gezhi就是开发商他怕who啊，哈哈
: 这样的房子肯定有generator萨～
: 是有水的问题，挖basement都会有这个问题需要解决的，解决好就成啦
:
: generator
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h********y
发帖数: 3778 | 42 呃我是瞎说的，gezhi老大不要打我
我是觉得他房子方面的知识很全，大小细节都知道
这个跟living版很对口啊
【在 h*d 的大作中提到】
: living版以前有car dealer, broker,原来还有land developer，种类真是丰富啊。不
: 过LO/FB比WO可能多些水的问题引起的basement leak应该还是占得住脚的。
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h********y
发帖数: 3778 | 43 高端是说质量好配备全，至于cost不高那是你滴本事～
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Not really 高端, the whole house was build for less than $400K years ago
: without counting the lot cost.
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s********0
发帖数: 37 | 44 地下室有walkout的话安全问题是一个大问题，你住楼上，要是楼下被人break in你也
不知道 |
h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 45 看啥地方了，我这里builder同一个house model，在三个小区，分别是$460K, $390K,
$350K... $400k光是房子，发些图看看？
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Not really 高端, the whole house was build for less than $400K years ago
: without counting the lot cost.
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h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 46 自己买地搞construction loan建房子貌似很麻烦，需要很多时间和精力，搞完了很多
东西多半就知道了，我这里builder很讨厌，很多option都不给，也不让你随便换。
【在 h********y 的大作中提到】
: 呃我是瞎说的，gezhi老大不要打我
: 我是觉得他房子方面的知识很全，大小细节都知道
: 这个跟living版很对口啊
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g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 47 You are kind of right, this house took me six years to design and 2 years
built. That is what inspired me to start my business, since I was really
having trouble finding custom high end stuff at a reasonable cost, so I
decided to open own factory and copy nice stuff at afforable price.
【在 h*d 的大作中提到】
: 自己买地搞construction loan建房子貌似很麻烦，需要很多时间和精力，搞完了很多
: 东西多半就知道了，我这里builder很讨厌，很多option都不给，也不让你随便换。
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h********y
发帖数: 3778 | 48 就算是有的builder肯的，都暴贵呀。这种customize,肯定是暴利滴~
【在 h*d 的大作中提到】
: 自己买地搞construction loan建房子貌似很麻烦，需要很多时间和精力，搞完了很多
: 东西多半就知道了，我这里builder很讨厌，很多option都不给，也不让你随便换。
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g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 49 I am not really a land developer, the only house I build from start to
finish is my own, I did help a lot of people build their own too.
【在 h*d 的大作中提到】
: living版以前有car dealer, broker,原来还有land developer，种类真是丰富啊。不
: 过LO/FB比WO可能多些水的问题引起的basement leak应该还是占得住脚的。
|
m***y
发帖数: 14763 | 50 这都什么烂区啊 治安差成这样 就别买啦
【在 s********0 的大作中提到】
: 地下室有walkout的话安全问题是一个大问题，你住楼上，要是楼下被人break in你也
: 不知道
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m***y
发帖数: 14763 | 51 这话说得也太猛了
【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: walkout level的地基不容易做稳
: 如果是walkup stair的没问题。
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R**R
发帖数: 3318 | 52 Please let us know when you will have a party next time.
excavation
(
walk
level
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Let me share with you my experience.
: I have a relative flat lot, but when I build my house, I hired a excavation
: company to dig the basement and change the grading (slope a little bit) A
: lot of dirt was digged up and pushed around to make the current landscape. (
: this have nothing to do with the pond I dig up if you read my other posts
: before, that was done a year later).
: So, right now, I have 3 levels of basement, top level is what you call walk
: out, front half is half under dirt, back half is
|
R**R
发帖数: 3318 | 53 现在赶紧拉关系。I may need you help to build my next house.
I am thinking that I am going to buy a farm 当孩子上大学后。We don't have to
pay so much tax.
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: I am not really a land developer, the only house I build from start to
: finish is my own, I did help a lot of people build their own too.
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g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 54 You plan to come?
【在 R**R 的大作中提到】
: Please let us know when you will have a party next time.
:
: excavation
: (
: walk
: level
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g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 55 Where I live now used to be farm, that is how I got it cheap. I got the land
from a beef farmer. You will not believe this I put a contingency of
finding natural gas as part of my contract since I am more interested in
buying the mineral rights of the land. I search for over 4 years for this
land, finally found one, I was kind of lucky. I had plan to build my 孩子 a
place to live when they get older, but not sure if they want to or not. I
got 160 acres, I might consider sell you a 10 to 20 acre lo
【在 R**R 的大作中提到】
: 现在赶紧拉关系。I may need you help to build my next house.
: I am thinking that I am going to buy a farm 当孩子上大学后。We don't have to
: pay so much tax.
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R**R
发帖数: 3318 | 56 YES.
登门求教
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: You plan to come?
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g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 57 I think you are much better in building (making things) for your house, 求教
is too strong, more like 切磋. We can learn from each other.
【在 R**R 的大作中提到】
: YES.
: 登门求教
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a****l
发帖数: 8211 | 58 太景仰了!160 acre!三层地下室!花了八年造房子!自己地里开天然气!太震撼人心了!
land
a
to
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Where I live now used to be farm, that is how I got it cheap. I got the land
: from a beef farmer. You will not believe this I put a contingency of
: finding natural gas as part of my contract since I am more interested in
: buying the mineral rights of the land. I search for over 4 years for this
: land, finally found one, I was kind of lucky. I had plan to build my 孩子 a
: place to live when they get older, but not sure if they want to or not. I
: got 160 acres, I might consider sell you a 10 to 20 acre lo
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S**********s
发帖数: 2033 | 59 敬仰啊...你这个就叫地主了，家大业大。
land
a
to
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Where I live now used to be farm, that is how I got it cheap. I got the land
: from a beef farmer. You will not believe this I put a contingency of
: finding natural gas as part of my contract since I am more interested in
: buying the mineral rights of the land. I search for over 4 years for this
: land, finally found one, I was kind of lucky. I had plan to build my 孩子 a
: place to live when they get older, but not sure if they want to or not. I
: got 160 acres, I might consider sell you a 10 to 20 acre lo
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h********y
发帖数: 3778 | 60 holy...totally speechless...
land
a
to
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Where I live now used to be farm, that is how I got it cheap. I got the land
: from a beef farmer. You will not believe this I put a contingency of
: finding natural gas as part of my contract since I am more interested in
: buying the mineral rights of the land. I search for over 4 years for this
: land, finally found one, I was kind of lucky. I had plan to build my 孩子 a
: place to live when they get older, but not sure if they want to or not. I
: got 160 acres, I might consider sell you a 10 to 20 acre lo
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h********y
发帖数: 3778 | 61 我也想买个农场，自己种菜种果树养鸡，争取过几年能买
钓鱼就暂时不敢想了，咩有那么大的地。。。
land
a
to
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Where I live now used to be farm, that is how I got it cheap. I got the land
: from a beef farmer. You will not believe this I put a contingency of
: finding natural gas as part of my contract since I am more interested in
: buying the mineral rights of the land. I search for over 4 years for this
: land, finally found one, I was kind of lucky. I had plan to build my 孩子 a
: place to live when they get older, but not sure if they want to or not. I
: got 160 acres, I might consider sell you a 10 to 20 acre lo
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g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 62 Oh, no need to, I am just a average poor person looking for the cheapest way
to live out my dream.
【在 h********y 的大作中提到】
: holy...totally speechless...
:
: land
: a
: to
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g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 63 There are lots of farm for sale, from a few acres to over 1000 acres. Just
decide what you want, and work toward your dream, anything is possible. The
guy sold me the farm actually have lots for sale. He wanted to divide into
smaller lots and sell, but I need enough road frontage to dig a natural gas
well, so I about a the front lots and back lots have no access to them, so I
got them a dirt cheap price.
Farm have very low tax rates, and there are lots of subsidy you can get,
some even pay you f
【在 h********y 的大作中提到】
: 我也想买个农场，自己种菜种果树养鸡，争取过几年能买
: 钓鱼就暂时不敢想了，咩有那么大的地。。。
:
: land
: a
: to
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h********y
发帖数: 3778 | 64 hand
让我得到了鼓励 :P
way
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Oh, no need to, I am just a average poor person looking for the cheapest way
: to live out my dream.
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h********y
发帖数: 3778 | 65 en, winery is very good business ah $$$$$$$
what about utility (electricity, natural gas etc) availability?
I know you can dig a well and use septic tank if public water or sewer is
not available
The
gas
I
bottles
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: There are lots of farm for sale, from a few acres to over 1000 acres. Just
: decide what you want, and work toward your dream, anything is possible. The
: guy sold me the farm actually have lots for sale. He wanted to divide into
: smaller lots and sell, but I need enough road frontage to dig a natural gas
: well, so I about a the front lots and back lots have no access to them, so I
: got them a dirt cheap price.
: Farm have very low tax rates, and there are lots of subsidy you can get,
: some even pay you f
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s********0
发帖数: 37 | 66
顶尖的区，一样存在安全隐患，烂区也不是每个房子都会被break in
【在 m***y 的大作中提到】
: 这都什么烂区啊 治安差成这样 就别买啦
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g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 67 I have dug a water well and natural gas well (which is the main reason I
choose this land).
I also have a large pond filled with water now.
I do not use public water or sewer (I am just too far out for them to reach)
I am hooked up to electric grid, but most of my electricity is generated by
micro turbine and a few wind turbines.
According to my calculations, I have enough gas to last well over 200 years
(that is if none of my neighbors begin to sell them, so far so good, but I
keep my fingers c
【在 h********y 的大作中提到】
: en, winery is very good business ah $$$$$$$
: what about utility (electricity, natural gas etc) availability?
: I know you can dig a well and use septic tank if public water or sewer is
: not available
:
: The
: gas
: I
: bottles
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w*******g
发帖数: 9932 | 68 看见神仙了. 你搞什么专业的? 地质勘探?
reach)
by
years
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: I have dug a water well and natural gas well (which is the main reason I
: choose this land).
: I also have a large pond filled with water now.
: I do not use public water or sewer (I am just too far out for them to reach)
: I am hooked up to electric grid, but most of my electricity is generated by
: micro turbine and a few wind turbines.
: According to my calculations, I have enough gas to last well over 200 years
: (that is if none of my neighbors begin to sell them, so far so good, but I
: keep my fingers c
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g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 69 No, business. I know nothing about 地质勘探 until I am begin to plan to
build my house, I learned from internet and talking to a few wildcat
drillers.
My contract allow me to test drill on the land before I bought it.
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: 看见神仙了. 你搞什么专业的? 地质勘探?
:
: reach)
: by
: years
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w*******g
发帖数: 9932 | 70 住那么偏僻的地方干嘛 另外你drill不需要政府批准吗
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: No, business. I know nothing about 地质勘探 until I am begin to plan to
: build my house, I learned from internet and talking to a few wildcat
: drillers.
: My contract allow me to test drill on the land before I bought it.
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g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 71 That is only place I can afford at that time. Yes, you need to apply for a
permit.
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: 住那么偏僻的地方干嘛 另外你drill不需要政府批准吗
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h********y
发帖数: 3778 | 72 这简直是太牛了，还有natural gas well,micro turbine,wind turbine
基本上是0 utility bill,只septic tank & well有维护费用
找有natural gas的地是不是还蛮难的？你消息一定蛮灵通滴～
reach)
by
years
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: I have dug a water well and natural gas well (which is the main reason I
: choose this land).
: I also have a large pond filled with water now.
: I do not use public water or sewer (I am just too far out for them to reach)
: I am hooked up to electric grid, but most of my electricity is generated by
: micro turbine and a few wind turbines.
: According to my calculations, I have enough gas to last well over 200 years
: (that is if none of my neighbors begin to sell them, so far so good, but I
: keep my fingers c
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g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 73 Not really, there are a lot public maps out there to help you get started,
but you still need to a little luck.
I know from the beginning I can control all the living cost except utility,
so that is why I started looking.
【在 h********y 的大作中提到】
: 这简直是太牛了，还有natural gas well,micro turbine,wind turbine
: 基本上是0 utility bill,只septic tank & well有维护费用
: 找有natural gas的地是不是还蛮难的？你消息一定蛮灵通滴～
:
: reach)
: by
: years
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h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 74 how do you get internet? a friend of mine living on a ranch using t-mobile
for his wireless internet.
,
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Not really, there are a lot public maps out there to help you get started,
: but you still need to a little luck.
: I know from the beginning I can control all the living cost except utility,
: so that is why I started looking.
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h********y
发帖数: 3778 | 75 对啦，wind turbine花费大概几何？
我想起来前几天看到我们local的一对builder夫妇建的0 energy概念房，
发电是用的Wind turbine
说明我们这里是可以利用风力资源的，虽然太阳能资源是差了点。。。
reach)
by
years
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: I have dug a water well and natural gas well (which is the main reason I
: choose this land).
: I also have a large pond filled with water now.
: I do not use public water or sewer (I am just too far out for them to reach)
: I am hooked up to electric grid, but most of my electricity is generated by
: micro turbine and a few wind turbines.
: According to my calculations, I have enough gas to last well over 200 years
: (that is if none of my neighbors begin to sell them, so far so good, but I
: keep my fingers c
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R**R
发帖数: 3318 | 76 No bad. I will be glad to be your neighbour.
I should start to think about and make a long term plan now.
land
a
to
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Where I live now used to be farm, that is how I got it cheap. I got the land
: from a beef farmer. You will not believe this I put a contingency of
: finding natural gas as part of my contract since I am more interested in
: buying the mineral rights of the land. I search for over 4 years for this
: land, finally found one, I was kind of lucky. I had plan to build my 孩子 a
: place to live when they get older, but not sure if they want to or not. I
: got 160 acres, I might consider sell you a 10 to 20 acre lo
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a****l
发帖数: 8211 | 77 好象买地还是很花钱的.我们这里农田的价格基本上是一万刀per acre,所以实在是买不
起上百acre的地啊.我们这里的土里土气的老农民都是上千acre的,牛的狠,说都是祖上
一两百年前传下来的,否则现在要买这么一个农场就太难了.
The
gas
I
bottles
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: There are lots of farm for sale, from a few acres to over 1000 acres. Just
: decide what you want, and work toward your dream, anything is possible. The
: guy sold me the farm actually have lots for sale. He wanted to divide into
: smaller lots and sell, but I need enough road frontage to dig a natural gas
: well, so I about a the front lots and back lots have no access to them, so I
: got them a dirt cheap price.
: Farm have very low tax rates, and there are lots of subsidy you can get,
: some even pay you f
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h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 78 以前认识农民说他们那里地不是太贵，但是搞一个农场需要的农用设施花的钱太多，农
产品卖不了大价钱，不合算。
【在 a****l 的大作中提到】
: 好象买地还是很花钱的.我们这里农田的价格基本上是一万刀per acre,所以实在是买不
: 起上百acre的地啊.我们这里的土里土气的老农民都是上千acre的,牛的狠,说都是祖上
: 一两百年前传下来的,否则现在要买这么一个农场就太难了.
:
: The
: gas
: I
: bottles
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s**********d
发帖数: 36899 | 79
另外你的title得允许你干。买地时偏的大一些的一般都没有HOA，
但仍然可能有一些title restriction。
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: 住那么偏僻的地方干嘛 另外你drill不需要政府批准吗
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s**********d
发帖数: 36899 | 80
小农场都亏本，上千acre的才赚钱。但投入相当大，也得雇不少
seasonal workers。
【在 h*d 的大作中提到】
: 以前认识农民说他们那里地不是太贵，但是搞一个农场需要的农用设施花的钱太多，农
: 产品卖不了大价钱，不合算。
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h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 81 是啊，朋友说加州墨墨在农场干，也就~$2/hour，可能都不到，中西部一下子就没有竞
争力了。
【在 s**********d 的大作中提到】
:
: 小农场都亏本，上千acre的才赚钱。但投入相当大，也得雇不少
: seasonal workers。
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m***y
发帖数: 14763 | 82 You don't need to go that far to 顶尖的区. The average towns here don't have
any break-in for years.
【在 s********0 的大作中提到】
:
: 顶尖的区，一样存在安全隐患，烂区也不是每个房子都会被break in
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m***y
发帖数: 14763 | 83 True, 小农场都亏本, but it's still about the cheapest way to hold a big
chunk of land : )
【在 s**********d 的大作中提到】
:
: 小农场都亏本，上千acre的才赚钱。但投入相当大，也得雇不少
: seasonal workers。
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p*****e
发帖数: 7299 | 84 葛厂长这个可以媲美那个著名的第比利斯印刷所了。。。
excavation
(
walk
level
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Let me share with you my experience.
: I have a relative flat lot, but when I build my house, I hired a excavation
: company to dig the basement and change the grading (slope a little bit) A
: lot of dirt was digged up and pushed around to make the current landscape. (
: this have nothing to do with the pond I dig up if you read my other posts
: before, that was done a year later).
: So, right now, I have 3 levels of basement, top level is what you call walk
: out, front half is half under dirt, back half is
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q**l
发帖数: 505 | 85 恩，这个贴子让我大开眼界。
好奇问一下：那个gas well咋用的？自己建一个小gas factory？ |
g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 86 Once the well is drilled, you just need a well head and add some scent to
the gas, so you will know when it is leaking. You will need a regulator just
normal gas supply. It is not that hard, I payed someone to set the whole
thing up.
【在 q**l 的大作中提到】
: 恩，这个贴子让我大开眼界。
: 好奇问一下：那个gas well咋用的？自己建一个小gas factory？
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g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 87 Microwave.
【在 h*d 的大作中提到】
: how do you get internet? a friend of mine living on a ranch using t-mobile
: for his wireless internet.
:
: ,
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g*****9
发帖数: 4125 | 88 Most of the electricity is generated by the natural gas turbine, wind
turbine is for testing purpose for me right now.
Just to give you some idea, a 2.2 kw unit will cost about $450. It can work
with only 0.5 mph wind, but works best between 5 to 35 mph wind.
【在 h********y 的大作中提到】
: 对啦，wind turbine花费大概几何？
: 我想起来前几天看到我们local的一对builder夫妇建的0 energy概念房，
: 发电是用的Wind turbine
: 说明我们这里是可以利用风力资源的，虽然太阳能资源是差了点。。。
:
: reach)
: by
: years
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R**R
发帖数: 3318 | 89 自己有上下水，天然气，电，你要再种地，养鸡，养鸭，养牛羊，和外界就没关系了。
$450 for a 2.2 kw unit, it is not bad. How big the size?
work
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Most of the electricity is generated by the natural gas turbine, wind
: turbine is for testing purpose for me right now.
: Just to give you some idea, a 2.2 kw unit will cost about $450. It can work
: with only 0.5 mph wind, but works best between 5 to 35 mph wind.
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h********y
发帖数: 3778 | 90 nod,就是我梦想中的生活。
【在 R**R 的大作中提到】
: 自己有上下水，天然气，电，你要再种地，养鸡，养鸭，养牛羊，和外界就没关系了。
: $450 for a 2.2 kw unit, it is not bad. How big the size?
:
: work
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R**R
发帖数: 3318 | 91 nnd, 现实生活太残酷。
【在 h********y 的大作中提到】
: nod,就是我梦想中的生活。
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h********y
发帖数: 3778 | 92 没事儿，你搬去跟葛老大做邻居就实现啦！
以单爷你的知识,skills和兴趣，一定也可以的
【在 R**R 的大作中提到】
: nnd, 现实生活太残酷。
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h********y
发帖数: 3778 | 93 FYI:I just googled residential wind turbine,
here is an FAQ for it on AWEA website (American Wind Energy Association):
http://www.awea.org/faq/rsdntqa.html
Usually 5k-15kw would be required
It says a lot size of 1 acre or more is desirable.
mine is not even 0.5 acre.:-( Gotta look at something else.
【在 R**R 的大作中提到】
: 自己有上下水，天然气，电，你要再种地，养鸡，养鸭，养牛羊，和外界就没关系了。
: $450 for a 2.2 kw unit, it is not bad. How big the size?
:
: work
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R**R
发帖数: 3318 | 94 对，问问他用living in 长工吗。房子都不用买了。
【在 h********y 的大作中提到】
: 没事儿，你搬去跟葛老大做邻居就实现啦！
: 以单爷你的知识,skills和兴趣，一定也可以的
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