T**J 发帖数: 3340 | 1 BSO之3, 自己装的Hood - 1。
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/Living/31527269.html
书接上文,上次说道管道准备好了,这次说钻孔作挂机器的准备。
AK2100AS的设计有问题,用4个螺丝挂在柜子底下,但是,前边的2个螺丝位置被风扇壳
基本完全挡住了,根本无法拧螺丝,最好的办法就是在柜底打孔用螺栓挂;后2个螺丝
倒是好拧,没啥问题。再就是随机的螺丝/垫片,我建议不要用,太单薄了。
先把机器拆箱,拿纸壳做个模板,把开口的洞挖出来,4个挂点和穿电线的孔标出来。
我的柜底板是内凹的,另用快递的大信封做了个小模板挖洞。
另外,说明书里标的那个开口到墙的距离好像是错的,反正我是自己做的模板,根本没
看说明书。
模板用胶带贴在柜底,洞的圈用铅笔画;挂点我用大头针扎了一下,图上后边2个挂点
位置上的就是大头针,前2个位置一定好尽量准确,后2个标不标无所谓;穿电线孔不需
要多精确,差不多就成。
标好之后就是开洞了,开洞要用电钻/电锯,钻这个大家都知道,锯要用Reciprocating
Saw。先在圆环上随便一点钻个孔,孔大小要能伸进去Rec |
T**J 发帖数: 3340 | 2 然后就是钻前边2个挂螺杆的洞,AK2100AS的挂点相当靠2侧,首先拿出来我的新18V
wireless,结果18V太胖了靠不到孔的位置,又找出我以前修车的那个110v来,这个瘦
点,刚好;这东西好像是我至少5年前修车过程中需要,就近在学校旁的当铺买的used
,也就10刀左右吧,那盒钻头也是差不多时候买的,大概是HF的山寨品质,好像$5还是
$6,反正这十几刀的东西做这个足够了。地上那个深蓝色的是moving pad,搬家时买的
,平常室内活时我就铺地上了。
先用细钻头打一个贯穿孔,至于用多细的钻头取决于你柜底梁的厚度,细钻头也短,我
盒子里最细的1/16就不够长打不穿,我这个是用3/32打的。这个孔其实主要是练手用的
,毕竟挂点离侧板太近,稍微向侧板方向打斜了就有拧不上螺帽/垫片的可能,老手就
不需要了。打好这个空检查上边开口位置确认可以装上垫片/螺帽,就可以换钻头打打
孔了。
孔需要多大?这个要取决于螺杆有多粗,其实还是和你柜底梁的厚度有关,我需要螺杆
长3"的,在HD找了半天,3"厂最细的也是#10-32,这对hood来说已经很粗了,足购强壮
,再粗的恐怕就要比hood挂点的孔 |
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d**b 发帖数: 211 | 4 等3
【在 d**b 的大作中提到】 : 这个要严重感谢一下了
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f*****t 发帖数: 576 | 5 同感谢!!
【在 d**b 的大作中提到】 : 这个要严重感谢一下了
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h******2 发帖数: 102 | 6 DIY Installtion by all of us Zephyr AS 2100 fans on this BBO is wrong. The
default designed by Zephyr is to first screw the 4 long wood screws provided
by Zephyr to the cabinet bottom. Then lift the hood so that the the screws
are inserted in the 4 round holes on the hood and slide the hood back to
make screws sit in the rectanglar slots.
I got this from my superhandy friend after I installed mine using bolts (
what a pain) |
T**J 发帖数: 3340 | 7 文科生把?你要知道纸上谈兵和实际操作之间的距离,估计zhphyr design这个工序的就
和你类似。
1、准确的定位4个木螺丝的位置是一个有相当难度的工作,zephyr连个模板纸都不给,
这要达到一次定位精确(注意,这个精确的要求可不低)那可不是给人干的活,你以为
打家都是机器人呀。
2、一旦预拧的螺丝位置偏几毫米或者斜了,拆下来调整位置那更是严重复杂的事情,要
知道偏1cm好办,偏1mm那可以是只有半个孔不到,先把原来的孔堵上,还得需要时间干
,再重新拧木螺丝......
这种design貌似轻巧的一句话说起来太简单的“拧4个木螺丝”,实际上的工作量可不这
么轻巧。我以前在auto版,修车的manual zutozone等店里常见的某版本俗称“害死你”
,就是类似你这样design,“拧下某螺丝”之类。
3、就算木螺丝拧好了(对了,拧螺丝时别忘了垫片),你觉得2个人举起这么重的机器
,在无法目视的情况下让螺丝头/垫片准确的落到大孔里是个简单的事么?这恐怕不是给
人DIY的,需要经过zephyr专业培训的安装人员。
至于我设计的这个螺栓发,那是完全针对生手DIY的,关键点就在前边2个
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : DIY Installtion by all of us Zephyr AS 2100 fans on this BBO is wrong. The : default designed by Zephyr is to first screw the 4 long wood screws provided : by Zephyr to the cabinet bottom. Then lift the hood so that the the screws : are inserted in the 4 round holes on the hood and slide the hood back to : make screws sit in the rectanglar slots. : I got this from my superhandy friend after I installed mine using bolts ( : what a pain)
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T**J 发帖数: 3340 | 8 继续说zephyr design这个工序,哪怕是你已经把螺丝/垫片对到孔里了,接下来还有问
题。
4、考虑到要挂4个孔,预拧上去的螺丝恐怕要留很大一段在外头,挂上了后还得继续拧
紧把?后2个好办,前2个呢?fan壳挡着,而且随机带的那螺丝头巨小,要拧紧可不容
易。至于你说可以用那种蛇皮杆的螺丝刀,我只能说没试过的没有发言权,那东西很难
用,主要是顶不住螺丝。
在我的方法里这个就简单了,螺帽从上边拧,下边的头拿螺丝刀卡一下就可以了。
5、千辛万苦拧好了,现在,问题又来了。zhphyr design这个工序是对上去,然后把
hood向前推挂住的,这样以来,hood后面和墙留下了相当宽的缝。
我的方法显然不会出现这种情况。
的就
,要
不这
你”
【在 T**J 的大作中提到】 : 文科生把?你要知道纸上谈兵和实际操作之间的距离,估计zhphyr design这个工序的就 : 和你类似。 : 1、准确的定位4个木螺丝的位置是一个有相当难度的工作,zephyr连个模板纸都不给, : 这要达到一次定位精确(注意,这个精确的要求可不低)那可不是给人干的活,你以为 : 打家都是机器人呀。 : 2、一旦预拧的螺丝位置偏几毫米或者斜了,拆下来调整位置那更是严重复杂的事情,要 : 知道偏1cm好办,偏1mm那可以是只有半个孔不到,先把原来的孔堵上,还得需要时间干 : ,再重新拧木螺丝...... : 这种design貌似轻巧的一句话说起来太简单的“拧4个木螺丝”,实际上的工作量可不这 : 么轻巧。我以前在auto版,修车的manual zutozone等店里常见的某版本俗称“害死你”
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T**J 发帖数: 3340 | 9 其实这也不怪你,高分低能是教育的错,大家基本都是国内幼儿园到大学上出来的,读
书读得就是这模式,能力都体现在考试上了,考语言能比人家说母语的强。别说这类工
序/工艺上的问题,就是更纸面一些的设计搞个鸡/蛋问题出来的也很常见。
provided
screws
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : DIY Installtion by all of us Zephyr AS 2100 fans on this BBO is wrong. The : default designed by Zephyr is to first screw the 4 long wood screws provided : by Zephyr to the cabinet bottom. Then lift the hood so that the the screws : are inserted in the 4 round holes on the hood and slide the hood back to : make screws sit in the rectanglar slots. : I got this from my superhandy friend after I installed mine using bolts ( : what a pain)
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h******2 发帖数: 102 | 10 All I said was that was default design by Zephyr. That is why they did not
give space to use screwdriver from under the hood. I agree with you it is a
bad installation design. BTW, my superhandy friend is a real expert in home
improvement. He is even better than some pros.
I used similar method as you did. I still had a hard time because I used 2
strengthing wood strips screwed to the cabinet bottom and one hole just
missed the wood strip.
I donot see how you could do it 100% by urself. To a roo |
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T**J 发帖数: 3340 | 11 放心,你会看到我是如何一个人装的。有图有真相不是。
对了,mamual上有如何装呀,BBS上是我说的建议用螺栓挂,就是因为我读了manual后发
现这方法不是给正常人干的。你不会先看bbs装完了再看manual把?
a
home
holes
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : All I said was that was default design by Zephyr. That is why they did not : give space to use screwdriver from under the hood. I agree with you it is a : bad installation design. BTW, my superhandy friend is a real expert in home : improvement. He is even better than some pros. : I used similar method as you did. I still had a hard time because I used 2 : strengthing wood strips screwed to the cabinet bottom and one hole just : missed the wood strip. : I donot see how you could do it 100% by urself. To a roo
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T**J 发帖数: 3340 | 12 而且我设计的这工序特别适合新手DIY,工序的关键部分有相当大的容错能力。
a
home
holes
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : All I said was that was default design by Zephyr. That is why they did not : give space to use screwdriver from under the hood. I agree with you it is a : bad installation design. BTW, my superhandy friend is a real expert in home : improvement. He is even better than some pros. : I used similar method as you did. I still had a hard time because I used 2 : strengthing wood strips screwed to the cabinet bottom and one hole just : missed the wood strip. : I donot see how you could do it 100% by urself. To a roo
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h******2 发帖数: 102 | 13 Did I say your way is bad? remind you that I used the same method as you did
. It might be a good idea to keep a open mind. When I told my superhandy
friend how I did and was told my way might be wrong, I was not convinced
either. By lookingagain at the shapes of the 4 installation holes on the
hood, I was convinced that they were designed for sliding installation (
though a bad one).
Zephyr does have bad design for AS2100. Another example is the wire box
under transformer and the way the trans |
T**J 发帖数: 3340 | 14 你第一句话不就是说“DIY Installtion by all of us Zephyr AS 2100 fans on this
BBO is wrong.”?现在版上装的就是用我说的螺栓法呀。
还是说我误解了你这句话的意思?
did
in
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : Did I say your way is bad? remind you that I used the same method as you did : . It might be a good idea to keep a open mind. When I told my superhandy : friend how I did and was told my way might be wrong, I was not convinced : either. By lookingagain at the shapes of the 4 installation holes on the : hood, I was convinced that they were designed for sliding installation ( : though a bad one). : Zephyr does have bad design for AS2100. Another example is the wire box : under transformer and the way the trans
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h******2 发帖数: 102 | 15 that was it. I used bolts becuase u said so in your original posts long time
ago. Thanks for that. I did not pay much attention to who posted the
original suggesting bolts.
I am not a handyman at all but my friend really is. Wish he will not get mad
when I tell him what you said about him (kidding) |
T**J 发帖数: 3340 | 16 大哥,回帖请带原贴,我已经看晕了。
time
mad
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : that was it. I used bolts becuase u said so in your original posts long time : ago. Thanks for that. I did not pay much attention to who posted the : original suggesting bolts. : I am not a handyman at all but my friend really is. Wish he will not get mad : when I tell him what you said about him (kidding)
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h******2 发帖数: 102 | 17 that starting sens was a bad one. What I really meant was that it was wrong
by Zephyr design. |
h******2 发帖数: 102 | 18 that starting sens was a bad one. What I really meant was that it was wrong
by Zephyr design. |
T**J 发帖数: 3340 | 19 ft,你这一个“all”可以把我也打倒网里了,你回我的贴这么这一“all”,这不是当
着和尚骂秃子么。
wrong
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : that starting sens was a bad one. What I really meant was that it was wrong : by Zephyr design.
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h******2 发帖数: 102 | 20 ur way is still wrong by Zephyr (lol) |
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S*******l 发帖数: 2747 | 21 flexible 的长杆螺丝刀我试了,根本没用
顶不住螺丝,稍微用点力就滑
【在 T**J 的大作中提到】 : 继续说zephyr design这个工序,哪怕是你已经把螺丝/垫片对到孔里了,接下来还有问 : 题。 : 4、考虑到要挂4个孔,预拧上去的螺丝恐怕要留很大一段在外头,挂上了后还得继续拧 : 紧把?后2个好办,前2个呢?fan壳挡着,而且随机带的那螺丝头巨小,要拧紧可不容 : 易。至于你说可以用那种蛇皮杆的螺丝刀,我只能说没试过的没有发言权,那东西很难 : 用,主要是顶不住螺丝。 : 在我的方法里这个就简单了,螺帽从上边拧,下边的头拿螺丝刀卡一下就可以了。 : 5、千辛万苦拧好了,现在,问题又来了。zhphyr design这个工序是对上去,然后把 : hood向前推挂住的,这样以来,hood后面和墙留下了相当宽的缝。 : 我的方法显然不会出现这种情况。
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l*****k 发帖数: 5933 | 22 多谢,等待更多BSO
有点疑问
为什么这个油烟机不同时设计一个可以装在后墙(STUD)的支撑呢?
如果只考虑CFM大,选用哪个牌子比较好?
【在 T**J 的大作中提到】 : BSO之3, 自己装的Hood - 1。 : http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/Living/31527269.html : 书接上文,上次说道管道准备好了,这次说钻孔作挂机器的准备。 : AK2100AS的设计有问题,用4个螺丝挂在柜子底下,但是,前边的2个螺丝位置被风扇壳 : 基本完全挡住了,根本无法拧螺丝,最好的办法就是在柜底打孔用螺栓挂;后2个螺丝 : 倒是好拧,没啥问题。再就是随机的螺丝/垫片,我建议不要用,太单薄了。 : 先把机器拆箱,拿纸壳做个模板,把开口的洞挖出来,4个挂点和穿电线的孔标出来。 : 我的柜底板是内凹的,另用快递的大信封做了个小模板挖洞。 : 另外,说明书里标的那个开口到墙的距离好像是错的,反正我是自己做的模板,根本没 : 看说明书。
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l******e 发帖数: 12192 | 23 其实是可以的,这个已经在版上讨论过了。
1. 外面两个螺丝是挂的,里面两个可以用长螺丝刀,当然pilot hole是预先打好的。
2. 两个人没问题。呵呵
的就
,要
不这
你”
【在 T**J 的大作中提到】 : 文科生把?你要知道纸上谈兵和实际操作之间的距离,估计zhphyr design这个工序的就 : 和你类似。 : 1、准确的定位4个木螺丝的位置是一个有相当难度的工作,zephyr连个模板纸都不给, : 这要达到一次定位精确(注意,这个精确的要求可不低)那可不是给人干的活,你以为 : 打家都是机器人呀。 : 2、一旦预拧的螺丝位置偏几毫米或者斜了,拆下来调整位置那更是严重复杂的事情,要 : 知道偏1cm好办,偏1mm那可以是只有半个孔不到,先把原来的孔堵上,还得需要时间干 : ,再重新拧木螺丝...... : 这种design貌似轻巧的一句话说起来太简单的“拧4个木螺丝”,实际上的工作量可不这 : 么轻巧。我以前在auto版,修车的manual zutozone等店里常见的某版本俗称“害死你”
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T**J 发帖数: 3340 | 25 感兴趣的人不多,还不如灌水热闹,有空我在继续发把。
【在 l*****k 的大作中提到】 : 多谢,等待更多BSO : 有点疑问 : 为什么这个油烟机不同时设计一个可以装在后墙(STUD)的支撑呢? : 如果只考虑CFM大,选用哪个牌子比较好?
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T**J 发帖数: 3340 | 26 你说啥?我的就是前2个挂,后2个拧木螺丝呀。2个人是可以,我的,是一个人装的。
【在 l******e 的大作中提到】 : 其实是可以的,这个已经在版上讨论过了。 : 1. 外面两个螺丝是挂的,里面两个可以用长螺丝刀,当然pilot hole是预先打好的。 : 2. 两个人没问题。呵呵 : : 的就 : ,要 : 不这 : 你”
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T**J 发帖数: 3340 | 27 ft,我算是.............原来你的“wrong”是这个意思。害我敲了n多字。
【在 h******2 的大作中提到】 : ur way is still wrong by Zephyr (lol)
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