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s******n
发帖数: 518
1
王伟著,看懂世界格局的第一本书——大国博弈,贵州人民出版社,2016.07,第71页:
一直到1937年卢沟桥事变爆发那一年,当时美国对日本出口超过28亿美元,其中60%是
石油和钢材,这些都是在战争时期最基础的战略物资。……那个时候日本几乎成了美国
钢铁最大的买家。在当时,美国厂商为了保证日本客户的需求,连纽约各地的废电梯都
来不及拆迁直接运到日本了,在侵华战争的前三年,日本军队所消耗的燃油70%来自于
美国。某种程度上说,美国是日本侵华过程中最大的帮凶。
盎格鲁——萨克逊民族操纵世界的一贯策略就是“分而治之”。比如说在非洲挑动部落
战争以贩卖奴隶,在南亚推动印巴分治以及长期对立,西亚地区策划巴以分治以及阿以
长期对立。抗日战争只不过是这一系列操控世界的布局之一罢了。当时,美国一方面大
量的向日本出口军火和战略物资来挑唆日本侵华消耗日本国力,另一方面又向中国提供
“飞虎队”等雇佣兵捞取好处并加强对中国的控制,最终让谁也摆脱不了他们这个主子
。这一点并不太高明,只不过被今天的主流媒体有意地遮蔽了,反而将美国说成是中国
人的恩主。
B**********y
发帖数: 3855
2
豆瓣读书上,有关于这作者一系列书一些很深刻的评论。
我就不摘录了转贴了。。。
s******n
发帖数: 518
3
from wiki:
Through the 1930s, Japan's military needed imported oil for airplanes and
warships. It was dependent at 90% on imports, 80% of it coming from the
United States.[31] Furthermore, the vast majority of this oil import was
oriented towards the Navy and the military.[32] America opposed Tokyo's
expansionist policies in China and Indochina and in 1940–41 decided to stop
supplying the oil Japan was using for military expansion against American
allies. On July 26, 1940 the U.S. government passed the Export Control Act,
cutting oil, iron and steel exports to Japan.[31] This containment policy
was seen by Washington as a warning to Japan that any further military
expansion would result in further sanctions. However, Tokyo saw it as a
blockade to counter Japanese military and economic strength. Accordingly, by
the time the United States enforced the Export Act, Japan had stockpiled
around 54 million barrels of oil.[33] Washington imposed a full oil embargo
imposed on Japan in July 1941.[33]

【在 B**********y 的大作中提到】
: 豆瓣读书上,有关于这作者一系列书一些很深刻的评论。
: 我就不摘录了转贴了。。。

s******n
发帖数: 518
4
According to the claim that "Through the 1930s, Japan's military needed
imported oil for airplanes and warships. It was dependent at 90% on imports,
80% of it coming from the United States", 72% oil imports were from USA.
王伟 's book is correct in this part, at least
a***u
发帖数: 4334
5
属实,真特么自恨。
而且找不到洋大爷来演老色棍陈纳德,于是找了一个米华冒充米军装逼,嗷嗷嗷乱爆阴
文。王力宏还算有点气节,和假洋鬼子说中文,哈哈。
苏联送给蒋梅毒的几百架飞机,1000空军志愿军,几千专家技术员,都被喂狗了,哈哈。

【在 s******n 的大作中提到】
: According to the claim that "Through the 1930s, Japan's military needed
: imported oil for airplanes and warships. It was dependent at 90% on imports,
: 80% of it coming from the United States", 72% oil imports were from USA.
: 王伟 's book is correct in this part, at least

a***u
发帖数: 4334
6
30年代可是米国排华的高潮期,同时也排日,麻痹的在米国眼里看来,小黄人都几把差
不多,Asian自相残杀真是vely vely funny,当然要发一笔战争财了。
一直等到元首占领巴黎,维系政府成立,东方殖民地管不住了,日军挺近法属印度支那
,米国才坐不住了,搞了一个Hull备忘录,基本原则就是提出日本绝对不可能接受的条
件,迫使日本开战。麻痹的日本一退再退,首先是准备退出越南,然后准备退出中国,
为此还lay off了米国点名批评的外交家松冈洋右,米国还是咄咄逼人,不可丝毫让步
。永野修身海军大元帅说得非常明确了:战也是死,不站也是死,与其不战丧失国魂死
,不如战而死。
前辈和洋鬼子为了尊严浴血奋战,虽败犹荣,麻痹的不肖子孙却成为了爬行类动物,跪
舔洋大爷,真是我大东亚之殇啊。
当然蒋梅毒是一朵奇葩,和日本打了那么多年仗,都没有对日宣战,日本奇袭珍珠湾之
后,梅毒说日本居然袭击我友邦,实在忍无可忍,宣战了。LOL。

stop
,

【在 s******n 的大作中提到】
: from wiki:
: Through the 1930s, Japan's military needed imported oil for airplanes and
: warships. It was dependent at 90% on imports, 80% of it coming from the
: United States.[31] Furthermore, the vast majority of this oil import was
: oriented towards the Navy and the military.[32] America opposed Tokyo's
: expansionist policies in China and Indochina and in 1940–41 decided to stop
: supplying the oil Japan was using for military expansion against American
: allies. On July 26, 1940 the U.S. government passed the Export Control Act,
: cutting oil, iron and steel exports to Japan.[31] This containment policy
: was seen by Washington as a warning to Japan that any further military

B**********y
发帖数: 3855
7
美国当时是中立国,说句不好听的是发战争财的。
到1940年开始,美日两国的局面关系是什么一个状态?
既然你会找wiki,我就不帮你引珍珠港事件了。
中国当时的国力不行,自己没有空军,是不是事实?
至于美国大兵是不是中国抗战里救世主,从来没有这个靶子,你自己立自己打。
zf喜欢翻民国的历史,确实不太愿意翻自己的历史;
这个御用文人竭力散布的阴谋论,和捧在位者臭脚的行为,令人不齿。
国内现在一方面在民间极度鼓动反美反西方,另一方面政府却又死舔美国,各种的妥协
贸易;是怎么一种分裂的精神?
当然啦,建立民众对外敌对恐惧心理,对内高压控制管理;
这种套路,各国政客一直还是用得很顺手,也很管用的。

stop
,

【在 s******n 的大作中提到】
: from wiki:
: Through the 1930s, Japan's military needed imported oil for airplanes and
: warships. It was dependent at 90% on imports, 80% of it coming from the
: United States.[31] Furthermore, the vast majority of this oil import was
: oriented towards the Navy and the military.[32] America opposed Tokyo's
: expansionist policies in China and Indochina and in 1940–41 decided to stop
: supplying the oil Japan was using for military expansion against American
: allies. On July 26, 1940 the U.S. government passed the Export Control Act,
: cutting oil, iron and steel exports to Japan.[31] This containment policy
: was seen by Washington as a warning to Japan that any further military

a***u
发帖数: 4334
8
擦,老将真是三句话不离反共啊。有人写了一本讲述真正的历史的书,又被老将归为产
党的阴谋。
人列出了那么多干货,你倒是反驳哪条写错了啊,不要和台湾一个搞笑节目一样,最后
一句话总是,一切都是阿共仔的阴谋啊,lol。

【在 B**********y 的大作中提到】
: 美国当时是中立国,说句不好听的是发战争财的。
: 到1940年开始,美日两国的局面关系是什么一个状态?
: 既然你会找wiki,我就不帮你引珍珠港事件了。
: 中国当时的国力不行,自己没有空军,是不是事实?
: 至于美国大兵是不是中国抗战里救世主,从来没有这个靶子,你自己立自己打。
: zf喜欢翻民国的历史,确实不太愿意翻自己的历史;
: 这个御用文人竭力散布的阴谋论,和捧在位者臭脚的行为,令人不齿。
: 国内现在一方面在民间极度鼓动反美反西方,另一方面政府却又死舔美国,各种的妥协
: 贸易;是怎么一种分裂的精神?
: 当然啦,建立民众对外敌对恐惧心理,对内高压控制管理;

B**********y
发帖数: 3855
9
讲几句不同意见就是老将,反贡啦!
有人骂他写的是秽史,见人见智了。
歌仔神,你一天捧天皇和女团的,你以为骂几句就不会挂牌子游街啦?晚啦。

【在 a***u 的大作中提到】
: 擦,老将真是三句话不离反共啊。有人写了一本讲述真正的历史的书,又被老将归为产
: 党的阴谋。
: 人列出了那么多干货,你倒是反驳哪条写错了啊,不要和台湾一个搞笑节目一样,最后
: 一句话总是,一切都是阿共仔的阴谋啊,lol。

a***u
发帖数: 4334
10
嗯,天皇陛下要退休了,本来打算平成三十年结束的时候退休,现在拖到明年5月1日传
位皇太子。
明年日本改元,计划今年下半年公布新年号,懂中华文化的索南们可以预测一下。

【在 B**********y 的大作中提到】
: 讲几句不同意见就是老将,反贡啦!
: 有人骂他写的是秽史,见人见智了。
: 歌仔神,你一天捧天皇和女团的,你以为骂几句就不会挂牌子游街啦?晚啦。

s******n
发帖数: 518
s******n
发帖数: 518
12
Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler : The Astonishing True Story of the
American Financiers Who Bankrolled the Nazis
The contribution made by American capitalism to German war preparations can
only be described as phenomenal. It was certainly crucial to German military
capabilities...Not only was an influential sector of American business
aware of the nature of Naziism, but for its own purposes aided Naziism
wherever possible (and profitable) - with full knowledge that the probable
outcome would be war involving Europe and the United States'. Penetrating a
cloak of falsehood, deception and duplicity, Professor Antony C. Sutton
reveals one of the most remarkable but unreported facts of the Second World
War: that key Wall Street banks and American businesses supported Hitler's
rise to power by financing and trading with Nazi Germany. Carefully tracing
this closely guarded secret through original documents and eyewitness
accounts, Sutton comes to the unsavoury conclusion that the catastrophic
Second World War was extremely profitable for a select group of financial
insiders. He presents a thoroughly documented account of the role played by
J.P. Morgan, T.W.
Lamont, the Rockefeller interests, General Electric Company, Standard Oil,
National City Bank, Chase and Manhattan banks, Kuhn, Loeb and Company,
General Motors, the Ford Motor Company, and scores of others in helping to
prepare the bloodiest, most destructive war in history. This classic study,
first published in 1976 - the third volume of a trilogy - is reproduced here
in its original form. The other volumes in the series study the 1917 Lenin-
Trotsky Revolution in Russia and the 1933 election of Franklin D. Roosevelt
in the United States.
a**e
发帖数: 8800
13
你要理解,这是清华。
清华的整个历史,恐怕只有建国到文革结束那30年不把美国当救世主。

【在 s******n 的大作中提到】
: Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler : The Astonishing True Story of the
: American Financiers Who Bankrolled the Nazis
: The contribution made by American capitalism to German war preparations can
: only be described as phenomenal. It was certainly crucial to German military
: capabilities...Not only was an influential sector of American business
: aware of the nature of Naziism, but for its own purposes aided Naziism
: wherever possible (and profitable) - with full knowledge that the probable
: outcome would be war involving Europe and the United States'. Penetrating a
: cloak of falsehood, deception and duplicity, Professor Antony C. Sutton
: reveals one of the most remarkable but unreported facts of the Second World

y***k
发帖数: 1078
14
这个片子本来可以格调高不少。其实美国飞行员的情节还好,那个传教士和一群孤儿还
有基督教歌曲真是不敢恭维。那些情节狗血还出戏,
很破坏整体风格。还不如多表现一下西南联大学生。
话说有人可以拍一下宗璞的《野葫芦引》啊,直接描写西南联大生活的。
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