h**********e
发帖数: 13 | 1 请教版上的前辈，如何在通过patent bar之后，找到patent agent 或是 tech
specialist 的职位。
说来惭愧，我已在两年前注册成为patent agent，可是到现在还是不能找到相关的职位
，电话面试有过一些，但是最后都是不了了之。到现在我只是做过一些volunteer的
prior art searching 和technical document review。
networking的同行都说关键是要有JD。
可是要是连门槛都跨不进，JD又能增加多大就业的可能性？
请教大家你们是如何说服law firm开始你们的patent agent／tech specialist 的职业
生涯的。对了，我的专业是Bio。谢谢 |
L**P
发帖数: 3792 | 2 其他不好回答，但是一点是肯定的
如果是bio的，如果jd不是什么名校的，那么“networking的同行都说关键是要有JD"就
是害人胡扯了。就你的特殊情况和此领域的特殊情况，随便拿个非名校jd，只会让你的
条件更差，因为jd不会让你增加此方面工作能力，还得让firm给你更多工资，你是老板
会选谁？
【在 h**********e 的大作中提到】
: 请教版上的前辈，如何在通过patent bar之后，找到patent agent 或是 tech
: specialist 的职位。
: 说来惭愧，我已在两年前注册成为patent agent，可是到现在还是不能找到相关的职位
: ，电话面试有过一些，但是最后都是不了了之。到现在我只是做过一些volunteer的
: prior art searching 和technical document review。
: networking的同行都说关键是要有JD。
: 可是要是连门槛都跨不进，JD又能增加多大就业的可能性？
: 请教大家你们是如何说服law firm开始你们的patent agent／tech specialist 的职业
: 生涯的。对了，我的专业是Bio。谢谢
|
D******D
发帖数: 1022 | 3 我的专业是Bio.
There are just very few positions in the bio and chem right now. So the firm
can
be extremely picky hiring people in those fields. My former firm get rid of
anybody who did not have three year law firm experience in the first round
resume selection. It is just tough time for your major right now and it is
unlikely to change in the foreseeable future.
【在 h**********e 的大作中提到】
: 请教版上的前辈，如何在通过patent bar之后，找到patent agent 或是 tech
: specialist 的职位。
: 说来惭愧，我已在两年前注册成为patent agent，可是到现在还是不能找到相关的职位
: ，电话面试有过一些，但是最后都是不了了之。到现在我只是做过一些volunteer的
: prior art searching 和technical document review。
: networking的同行都说关键是要有JD。
: 可是要是连门槛都跨不进，JD又能增加多大就业的可能性？
: 请教大家你们是如何说服law firm开始你们的patent agent／tech specialist 的职业
: 生涯的。对了，我的专业是Bio。谢谢
|
h**********e
发帖数: 13 | 4 谢谢你的回复。我也是觉得如果连工作经验都没有，再多读3年书，除了增加自己的投
资，并不能有效的增加被雇佣的几率。所以来版上请教前辈们。如何找到第一份工作，
我看到的job posting都是要多年的工作经验。 可是这个工作经验是在工作中积累的，
没有工作当然没有经验了。请前辈们share你们的经验，如何走出第一步呢？谢谢
【在 L**P 的大作中提到】
: 其他不好回答，但是一点是肯定的
: 如果是bio的，如果jd不是什么名校的，那么“networking的同行都说关键是要有JD"就
: 是害人胡扯了。就你的特殊情况和此领域的特殊情况，随便拿个非名校jd，只会让你的
: 条件更差，因为jd不会让你增加此方面工作能力，还得让firm给你更多工资，你是老板
: 会选谁？
|
h**********e
发帖数: 13 | 5 Thank you for the insider's information. I understand this is a tough market
and have prepared for it. There are still newbies getting into the field,
right? I don't want to give it all up so easily after looking for a position
for nearly two years and just wonder if there are some tips and experience
from more experienced agents/attorneys.
firm
of
round
【在 D******D 的大作中提到】
: 我的专业是Bio.
: There are just very few positions in the bio and chem right now. So the firm
: can
: be extremely picky hiring people in those fields. My former firm get rid of
: anybody who did not have three year law firm experience in the first round
: resume selection. It is just tough time for your major right now and it is
: unlikely to change in the foreseeable future.
|
D******D
发帖数: 1022 | 6 There are no real tricks to get positions, like I said there are just not
many openings in your field. After two years searching, you should know
better than anyone else.
And I think you simply have two choices if you still want to break into the
law. First, just keep looking hopefully some firm will hire you. Second,
gamble your money on law school, hopefully with good school and JD you can
get intern and full time job.
【在 h**********e 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢你的回复。我也是觉得如果连工作经验都没有，再多读3年书，除了增加自己的投
: 资，并不能有效的增加被雇佣的几率。所以来版上请教前辈们。如何找到第一份工作，
: 我看到的job posting都是要多年的工作经验。 可是这个工作经验是在工作中积累的，
: 没有工作当然没有经验了。请前辈们share你们的经验，如何走出第一步呢？谢谢
|
D******D
发帖数: 1022 | 7 There are still newbies getting into the field, right?
For sure. Does that mean you can get those positions? Do you really know
those newbies' background? I remembered there is a lucky bastard here, who
got offers from multiple prestigious firms simply because his Ph.D boss is a
good friend with a managing partner of a top firm. So other persons'
successful stories really have no impact what so ever on yourself. Well, at
least that is my opinion.
market
position
experience
【在 h**********e 的大作中提到】
: Thank you for the insider's information. I understand this is a tough market
: and have prepared for it. There are still newbies getting into the field,
: right? I don't want to give it all up so easily after looking for a position
: for nearly two years and just wonder if there are some tips and experience
: from more experienced agents/attorneys.
:
: firm
: of
: round
|
L**P
发帖数: 3792 | 8 Yes to your question: There are still newbies getting into the field, right?
But you can also flip the coin to see the other side:
There are far too many newbies who CANNOT get into the field, right?
So, others' stories do not really help you unless you know exactly what
their strengths are.
Finally, if you want to gamble on a JD, better to gamble only on top JD. A
non-top JD will not help you by statistics.
a
at
【在 D******D 的大作中提到】
: There are still newbies getting into the field, right?
: For sure. Does that mean you can get those positions? Do you really know
: those newbies' background? I remembered there is a lucky bastard here, who
: got offers from multiple prestigious firms simply because his Ph.D boss is a
: good friend with a managing partner of a top firm. So other persons'
: successful stories really have no impact what so ever on yourself. Well, at
: least that is my opinion.
:
: market
: position
|
z**********i
发帖数: 12276 | 9 找到了，最终？
【在 h**********e 的大作中提到】
: 请教版上的前辈，如何在通过patent bar之后，找到patent agent 或是 tech
: specialist 的职位。
: 说来惭愧，我已在两年前注册成为patent agent，可是到现在还是不能找到相关的职位
: ，电话面试有过一些，但是最后都是不了了之。到现在我只是做过一些volunteer的
: prior art searching 和technical document review。
: networking的同行都说关键是要有JD。
: 可是要是连门槛都跨不进，JD又能增加多大就业的可能性？
: 请教大家你们是如何说服law firm开始你们的patent agent／tech specialist 的职业
: 生涯的。对了，我的专业是Bio。谢谢
|
