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o*****c
发帖数: 241
1
要hedge还是short的抓紧了。FYI
heihei
a******g
发帖数: 1538
2
偶像发话了,我减5%
S******n
发帖数: 617
3
I love this pump, hahaha

【在 o*****c 的大作中提到】
: 要hedge还是short的抓紧了。FYI
: heihei

h*9
发帖数: 38
4
mark, hehe :-)

【在 o*****c 的大作中提到】
: 要hedge还是short的抓紧了。FYI
: heihei

o*****c
发帖数: 241
5
even for long-term investor, you need to hedge your risk. hehe

【在 S******n 的大作中提到】
: I love this pump, hahaha
o*****c
发帖数: 241
6
when maket is on dope, you have to control your risk.
but it is always exciting to counter the market. :D
I would like to bet 3% for next several days.

【在 a******g 的大作中提到】
: 偶像发话了,我减5%
a******g
发帖数: 1538
7
俺认为现在short-squeeze的还不够,要一直到triple witching day为止,但是还是希
望你是对的

【在 o*****c 的大作中提到】
: when maket is on dope, you have to control your risk.
: but it is always exciting to counter the market. :D
: I would like to bet 3% for next several days.

c****o
发帖数: 32446
8
老大不是汗牛了吗(虽然他放我们鸽子,现在都没写点啥来解释为啥牛了),所以俺们
还是先hold再说
s********n
发帖数: 1962
9
Look, guys, right now any dip is a good chance to buy.
And DON'T even think about shorting finance.
Don't ask me how long it will last though -- could be two weeks, could be
two months, could be six months. God knows.

【在 a******g 的大作中提到】
: 俺认为现在short-squeeze的还不够,要一直到triple witching day为止,但是还是希
: 望你是对的

a******g
发帖数: 1538
10
这么看牛啊,给点理由

【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: Look, guys, right now any dip is a good chance to buy.
: And DON'T even think about shorting finance.
: Don't ask me how long it will last though -- could be two weeks, could be
: two months, could be six months. God knows.

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s********n
发帖数: 1962
11
This is a big one.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/090312/meltdown_accounting_rule.html
But it's not even the only one. Other reasons need more word to explain.
It's more about bonds ratings.
Overall, the market is in an extreme depress-release mood.
To be sure, yes, we are still in a long-term bear market. But don't
be too smart.

【在 a******g 的大作中提到】
: 这么看牛啊,给点理由
f****t
发帖数: 1063
12

if value down, don't book it.
if value up, book it.
So never down, what a creative idea!
and this one would even become a better investment choice:
http://www.tiaa-cref.org/performance/retirement/profiles/1009.html
no risk at all for it!

【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: This is a big one.
: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/090312/meltdown_accounting_rule.html
: But it's not even the only one. Other reasons need more word to explain.
: It's more about bonds ratings.
: Overall, the market is in an extreme depress-release mood.
: To be sure, yes, we are still in a long-term bear market. But don't
: be too smart.

a**n
发帖数: 2431
13
Could you say say bond rating...
Not quite get this point

【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: This is a big one.
: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/090312/meltdown_accounting_rule.html
: But it's not even the only one. Other reasons need more word to explain.
: It's more about bonds ratings.
: Overall, the market is in an extreme depress-release mood.
: To be sure, yes, we are still in a long-term bear market. But don't
: be too smart.

b****e
发帖数: 460
14
So, if I have something worth $0.01, and I have 1 thousand pieces of it. And
someone trade one of it for $1000 per piece. I can book my asset from $10
to $1,000,000 forever?

【在 f****t 的大作中提到】
:
: if value down, don't book it.
: if value up, book it.
: So never down, what a creative idea!
: and this one would even become a better investment choice:
: http://www.tiaa-cref.org/performance/retirement/profiles/1009.html
: no risk at all for it!

f****t
发帖数: 1063
15
yes sir :)

And

【在 b****e 的大作中提到】
: So, if I have something worth $0.01, and I have 1 thousand pieces of it. And
: someone trade one of it for $1000 per piece. I can book my asset from $10
: to $1,000,000 forever?

d******e
发帖数: 143
16
any recommend for hedge? buy sp500 put?
how about those 2x 3x ETF's option?

【在 o*****c 的大作中提到】
: even for long-term investor, you need to hedge your risk. hehe
i******l
发帖数: 828
17
赞赌技高超
(我老对原作者观点持谨慎支持态度。)

【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: Look, guys, right now any dip is a good chance to buy.
: And DON'T even think about shorting finance.
: Don't ask me how long it will last though -- could be two weeks, could be
: two months, could be six months. God knows.

S******n
发帖数: 617
18
Bears are waiting for them to revoke the mark-to-market.
The market could shoot the moon!

【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: This is a big one.
: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/090312/meltdown_accounting_rule.html
: But it's not even the only one. Other reasons need more word to explain.
: It's more about bonds ratings.
: Overall, the market is in an extreme depress-release mood.
: To be sure, yes, we are still in a long-term bear market. But don't
: be too smart.

k****t
发帖数: 12697
o*****c
发帖数: 241
20
ES stop is at 773.75. wish it can hold below it today, but the trade looks
like a loser.

【在 a******g 的大作中提到】
: 偶像发话了,我减5%
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805
21
Strong resistance around 780-800. And I think we'll see a downleg late
in the week not just a pullback. We may revisit low in 2 weeks.

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K****D
发帖数: 30533
22
hehe, days like this can be real tests for one's belief on the
"stop" strategy.
Because I don't like the feeling of losing small amount for many times,
I never liked stops.

【在 o*****c 的大作中提到】
: ES stop is at 773.75. wish it can hold below it today, but the trade looks
: like a loser.

o*****c
发帖数: 241
23
WTF, stopped out almost exactly at the high tick.
you may don't care 5%,10% or even bigger loss in your own account, but I
have to care my rice bowl even though i got f*cked up this time.

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: hehe, days like this can be real tests for one's belief on the
: "stop" strategy.
: Because I don't like the feeling of losing small amount for many times,
: I never liked stops.

o*****c
发帖数: 241
24
i hoped it pulled back a lot too, but sh*t happens...
SPX
K****D
发帖数: 30533
25
Seems the stop still worked, hehe.

【在 o*****c 的大作中提到】
: WTF, stopped out almost exactly at the high tick.
: you may don't care 5%,10% or even bigger loss in your own account, but I
: have to care my rice bowl even though i got f*cked up this time.

p******h
发帖数: 1783
26
现在看来stop还是不错的,借问一下大牛,止损点通常设多少?是按百分比来么?

do is go over there and pick it up. I do nothing in the meantime."

【在 o*****c 的大作中提到】
: WTF, stopped out almost exactly at the high tick.
: you may don't care 5%,10% or even bigger loss in your own account, but I
: have to care my rice bowl even though i got f*cked up this time.

o*****c
发帖数: 241
27
sigh...

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Seems the stop still worked, hehe.
o*****c
发帖数: 241
28
it depends on your trade type whether it is long-term(1-3 months), short-
term(2-5 days) or scalping. Volatility is also a factor to consider. when
VIX is 80, you should not set your swing trades with 2% stop, which was ok
when VIX is 20-30.
lots of other factors are considered too. I use 3% right now.
another way is to adjust your trade size to hedge some risk in high vol
period.

【在 p******h 的大作中提到】
: 现在看来stop还是不错的,借问一下大牛,止损点通常设多少?是按百分比来么?
:
: do is go over there and pick it up. I do nothing in the meantime."

p******h
发帖数: 1783
29
多谢。你现在的3%针对的是多长的term? 不论个股,就指数而言

【在 o*****c 的大作中提到】
: it depends on your trade type whether it is long-term(1-3 months), short-
: term(2-5 days) or scalping. Volatility is also a factor to consider. when
: VIX is 80, you should not set your swing trades with 2% stop, which was ok
: when VIX is 20-30.
: lots of other factors are considered too. I use 3% right now.
: another way is to adjust your trade size to hedge some risk in high vol
: period.

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