M*******n 发帖数: 10087 | 1 比如说yosemite,或者黄石
听说现在熊很多,不带睡不着觉啊。
或者带刀可以么? |
T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 2 federal public land 应该可以吧 |
x****0 发帖数: 902 | 3 是national park code和local code的交集,国家公园的禁令几年前expire了,
不过加州这样的州的国家公园还是不行,遇到熊吃人只能肉搏。。。
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】 : federal public land 应该可以吧
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z**z 发帖数: 436 | 4 我上课说国家公园里的range office是不行的。 |
D****g 发帖数: 1551 | 5 那是因为国家公园里的range office联邦政府的建筑物.
【在 z**z 的大作中提到】 : 我上课说国家公园里的range office是不行的。
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f******9 发帖数: 23 | 6 野外可以 建築物就不行, 遇到熊帶pepper spray 比較有效 |
x****i 发帖数: 729 | 7 一般是可以的,就算违反公园的规定,也至少不违法。还是查查公园的细则,没专门写
出来禁止带武器的就可以带,当然,你要有在当地有效的CCW。可以打电话去问问。
【在 M*******n 的大作中提到】 : 比如说yosemite,或者黄石 : 听说现在熊很多,不带睡不着觉啊。 : 或者带刀可以么?
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c********g 发帖数: 530 | 8 带shotgun呢
感觉对熊还是长的更有效
【在 x****i 的大作中提到】 : 一般是可以的,就算违反公园的规定,也至少不违法。还是查查公园的细则,没专门写 : 出来禁止带武器的就可以带,当然,你要有在当地有效的CCW。可以打电话去问问。
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c********g 发帖数: 530 | 9 带shotgun呢
感觉对熊还是长的更有效
【在 x****i 的大作中提到】 : 一般是可以的,就算违反公园的规定,也至少不违法。还是查查公园的细则,没专门写 : 出来禁止带武器的就可以带,当然,你要有在当地有效的CCW。可以打电话去问问。
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c********g 发帖数: 530 | 10 带shotgun呢
感觉对熊还是长的更有效
【在 x****i 的大作中提到】 : 一般是可以的,就算违反公园的规定,也至少不违法。还是查查公园的细则,没专门写 : 出来禁止带武器的就可以带,当然,你要有在当地有效的CCW。可以打电话去问问。
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x****i 发帖数: 729 | 11 自己考虑带不带把。实际来说,根本不用考虑这种小概率事件,遇到熊?有经验的猎人
专门去猎熊,花几天时间也不见得能找到一头,哪是那么容易遇到的啊。您去的是国家
公园,又不是原始森林,以本人经验来说,你白天能远距离的看到动物就不错了,大型
动物不会离人太近。如果不在野外camping、帐篷过夜,我个人是不会带武器的,太麻
烦,顶多带把刀作为工具、砍个手杖啊啥的。
【在 c********g 的大作中提到】 : 带shotgun呢 : 感觉对熊还是长的更有效
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 12 2010年通过了一个法案,规定NP里面原本有资格持枪的人可以合法持枪
依据这个法案,如果你本身在所在州有合法持枪的身份,就可以
各个np官网基本都有weapon/firearms这一页,陈述这个事情,
而且多数会同时给出所在州的相关法律
比如yosemite的:
http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/weapons.htm
需要注意的是像加州比较坑爹,根据相关法律,可以carry,但是,
Weapons/Firearms
Firearms
As of February 22, 2010, a federal law allows people who can legally possess
firearms under applicable federal, state, and local laws, to legally
possess firearms in this park.
It is the responsibility of visitors to understand and comply with all
applicable state, local, and federal firearms laws before entering this park
. As a starting point, visit the California Attorney General's website.
Federal law also prohibits firearms in certain facilities in this park;
those places are marked with signs at all public entrances.
Discharging a firearm for any reason is illegal.
注意最后一句。能带不能开,这tmd不是烧火棍么。
下面是黄石的相关内容:
网页:
http://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/management/lawsandpolicies.htm
关于weapons & firearms的:
Firearms in Parks
As of February 22, 2010, a new federal law allows people who can legally
possess firearms under applicable federal, state, and local laws, to legally
possess firearms in this park.
The Credit Card Accountability Responsibility and Disclosure Act of 2009,
was enacted May 22, 2009 and will become effective February 22, 2010.
Section 512 of this law; Protecting Americans from Violent Crimes,
supersedes the uniform treatment of firearm possession in the national park
system outside Alaska under the regulations found at 36 C.F.R. 2.4.
It is the responsibility of visitors to understand and comply with all
applicable state, local, and federal firearms laws before entering this park
. Yellowstone encompasses parts of Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho. Each state
has different regulations and these are listed below.
Federal law also prohibits firearms in certain facilities in this park (such
as visitor centers, government offices, etc.); those places are marked with
signs at all public entrances. Hunting and discharge of firearms remain
prohibited in Yellowstone National Park.
Firearms should not be considered a wildlife protection strategy. Bear spray
and other safety precautions are the proven methods for preventing bear and
other wildlife interactions.
Wyoming
Open Carry Allowed
Handgun = Yes
Rifle = Yes
In Vehicle = Yes
Age Requirement = None
Concealed Carry Allowed - Permit Required for Non-Residents
Person = Yes
Vehicle = Yes
State Reciprocity = 23 states
Age Requirement = 21 years of age
Links to Wyoming State Firearms Information
Concealed Weapons
State Reciprocity
Relevant Wyoming Firearm Statutes
Montana
Open Carry Allowed
Handgun = Yes
Rifle = Yes
In Vehicle = Yes
Age Requirement = 14
Concealed Carry Allowed - Permit Required
Person = Yes
Vehicle = Yes
State Reciprocity = 40 States
Age Requirement = 18
Links to Montana State Firearms Information
Concealed Weapons
State Reciprocity
Montana Firearm Statutes
Idaho
Open Carry
Handgun = Yes
Rifle = Yes
In Vehicle = Yes
Age Requirement = 18
Concealed Carry Allowed - Permit Required
Person = Yes
Vehicle = Yes
State Reciprocity = 46 States
Links to Idaho State Firearms Information
Concealed Weapons
State Reciprocity
Relevant Idaho Firearm Statutes
顺便,这个条文的通过也很有趣,其实是在一个完全不相干的法案
(Credit Card Accountability Responsibility and Disclosure Act of 2009)
里面以搭车(unrelated rider)的形式通过的,关于这点wiki这么说:
Amendment on guns in national parks[edit]
Gun rights advocates in the Senate, led by Tom Coburn (R-Okla) added an
unrelated rider to the bill to prevent the Secretary of the Interior from
enforcing any regulation that would prohibit an individual from possessing a
firearm in any unit of the National Park System or the National Wildlife
Refuge System.[6][7] The Senate passed the amendment 67-29.[8][9]
This amendment overturns a Reagan-era policy prohibiting firearms from being
carried in national parks. The George W. Bush administration had attempted
to implement a similar policy through the rulemaking process just before
leaving office, but the change was struck down by a federal judge. The
provision has been heavily criticized by environmentalists, anti-gun groups,
and park supporters, including the Coalition of National Park Service
Retirees, but it was heavily applauded by gun rights groups.[9][10]
【在 M*******n 的大作中提到】 : 比如说yosemite,或者黄石 : 听说现在熊很多,不带睡不着觉啊。 : 或者带刀可以么?
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K******c 发帖数: 619 | 13 遇到棕熊,shotgun也不见得有用;遇到黑熊,哈两声就吓跑了 |
x****0 发帖数: 902 | 14 对付两种熊共同的一招:不要掉头就跑,。。。
远离mamabear,跟带小孩的妈妈一样,勇气值战斗力都指数增加。。。
【在 K******c 的大作中提到】 : 遇到棕熊,shotgun也不见得有用;遇到黑熊,哈两声就吓跑了
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l*****t 发帖数: 3117 | 15 我知道猎熊不容易找到熊。
根本不用考虑这种小概率事件?我去黄石没看到狼,熊看到了多次,直接就在trail边
上。
【在 x****i 的大作中提到】 : 自己考虑带不带把。实际来说,根本不用考虑这种小概率事件,遇到熊?有经验的猎人 : 专门去猎熊,花几天时间也不见得能找到一头,哪是那么容易遇到的啊。您去的是国家 : 公园,又不是原始森林,以本人经验来说,你白天能远距离的看到动物就不错了,大型 : 动物不会离人太近。如果不在野外camping、帐篷过夜,我个人是不会带武器的,太麻 : 烦,顶多带把刀作为工具、砍个手杖啊啥的。
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p*******s 发帖数: 157 | |
a***x 发帖数: 26368 | 17 那太难找了,呜呜。。。。
【在 p*******s 的大作中提到】 : 不是说带个比自己跑的慢的同伴最重要吗?
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K******c 发帖数: 619 | 18 你这自黑的真是惨无人道啊
【在 a***x 的大作中提到】 : 那太难找了,呜呜。。。。
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a***x 发帖数: 26368 | 19 这叫对自己了解。。。。
顺便np旅游求携带。。。。
【在 K******c 的大作中提到】 : 你这自黑的真是惨无人道啊
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c********g 发帖数: 530 | 20 又研究了一下,这个yosemite和sequoia/kings 都禁止bear spray, 不带枪,晚上熊来
了,只有和熊练习拳击了
【在 x****i 的大作中提到】 : 自己考虑带不带把。实际来说,根本不用考虑这种小概率事件,遇到熊?有经验的猎人 : 专门去猎熊,花几天时间也不见得能找到一头,哪是那么容易遇到的啊。您去的是国家 : 公园,又不是原始森林,以本人经验来说,你白天能远距离的看到动物就不错了,大型 : 动物不会离人太近。如果不在野外camping、帐篷过夜,我个人是不会带武器的,太麻 : 烦,顶多带把刀作为工具、砍个手杖啊啥的。
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