B****r
发帖数: 1737 | |
o**d
发帖数: 3080 | |
C*******d
发帖数: 15836 | 3 哇，这么真没得说了。连政府都承认有zombie了，大家还是真的往这方面准备一下。我
也得吧我的猎枪好好拾掇一下。 |
W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 4 我看了半天，也没有发现“连政府都承认有zombie了”。。。
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: 哇，这么真没得说了。连政府都承认有zombie了，大家还是真的往这方面准备一下。我
: 也得吧我的猎枪好好拾掇一下。
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m********n
发帖数: 802 | 5 请问saiga的那个shotgun怎么样。 朋友说糙的很啊。
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: 哇，这么真没得说了。连政府都承认有zombie了，大家还是真的往这方面准备一下。我
: 也得吧我的猎枪好好拾掇一下。
|
t******8
发帖数: 2803 | 6 很好玩的。现在买基本上都是09年以后造的批次，三个导气孔，多数都可以正常cycle
鸟弹。我比较喜欢用federal，觉得winchester不大合适。
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】
: 请问saiga的那个shotgun怎么样。 朋友说糙的很啊。
|
C*******d
发帖数: 15836 | 7 "If zombies did start roaming the streets, CDC would conduct an
investigation much like any other disease outbreak. CDC would provide
technical assistance to cities, states, or international partners dealing
with a zombie infestation. This assistance might include consultation, lab
testing and analysis, patient management and care, tracking of contacts, and
infection control (including isolation and quarantine). "
这个CDC可是实打实的最权威的政府疾病控制部门了。连它都对僵尸病毒提出了非常具
体的应对措施和对民众的应对建议，这其实是一个很严重的动向了。其实几年前就已经
研究出有这种病毒，一旦染病人将无法控制自己的行为。而动物的僵尸病毒也被早前发
现了。现在各种激素，环境污染，毒品，核辐射等等威胁人类，我觉得真正的出现僵尸
离我们可能真不是太远。
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: 我看了半天，也没有发现“连政府都承认有zombie了”。。。
|
W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 8 “其实几年前就已经研究出有这种病毒”能给出这个病毒的名字吗？
and
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: "If zombies did start roaming the streets, CDC would conduct an
: investigation much like any other disease outbreak. CDC would provide
: technical assistance to cities, states, or international partners dealing
: with a zombie infestation. This assistance might include consultation, lab
: testing and analysis, patient management and care, tracking of contacts, and
: infection control (including isolation and quarantine). "
: 这个CDC可是实打实的最权威的政府疾病控制部门了。连它都对僵尸病毒提出了非常具
: 体的应对措施和对民众的应对建议，这其实是一个很严重的动向了。其实几年前就已经
: 研究出有这种病毒，一旦染病人将无法控制自己的行为。而动物的僵尸病毒也被早前发
: 现了。现在各种激素，环境污染，毒品，核辐射等等威胁人类，我觉得真正的出现僵尸
|
t******8
发帖数: 2803 | 9 http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/67049-cdc-warns-abou
我喜欢他们后来关于political correctness的讨论。
“Ahem, excuse me. Not Zombies, but Undead Americans or Living Impaired.
Sorry for my loose use of the Z word. I pray nobody was offended.”
“Just give liberals time, soon they will be out trying to get the zombi...I
mean undead Americans votes. ” |
C*******d
发帖数: 15836 | 10 嗯tofu应该是这方面的专家了，因为他有这只枪。我对这种枪的了解是非常少的。普遍
来讲，这种枪一般可能存在的问题就是进退子弹，有些弱得散弹没有足够的压力供弹。
但是如果选择合适的子弹可靠性应该还是可以的。
对于我个人来讲，我还是更喜欢泵动的猎枪，因为它更简单，也应该更可靠。当然，如
果考虑火力，那还是saiga的那个shotgun要猛的多，尤其是配上大弹鼓的时候，基本上
就是超级杀器，枪林弹雨。
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】
: 请问saiga的那个shotgun怎么样。 朋友说糙的很啊。
|
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C*******d
发帖数: 15836 | 11 http://www.fvza.org/zscience1.html
你可以搜“zombie virus"得到更多的链接。我感觉这个zombie近年来已经远远超过了
猜想和传说的范畴，越来越跟现实接近了。
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: “其实几年前就已经研究出有这种病毒”能给出这个病毒的名字吗？
:
: and
|
m********n
发帖数: 802 | 12 推荐一个泵动的吧。 请示我不懂有什么区别。
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: 嗯tofu应该是这方面的专家了，因为他有这只枪。我对这种枪的了解是非常少的。普遍
: 来讲，这种枪一般可能存在的问题就是进退子弹，有些弱得散弹没有足够的压力供弹。
: 但是如果选择合适的子弹可靠性应该还是可以的。
: 对于我个人来讲，我还是更喜欢泵动的猎枪，因为它更简单，也应该更可靠。当然，如
: 果考虑火力，那还是saiga的那个shotgun要猛的多，尤其是配上大弹鼓的时候，基本上
: 就是超级杀器，枪林弹雨。
|
C*******d
发帖数: 15836 | 13 美国最普遍的价廉物美而且信誉不错的应该是Mossberg 500和Remington 870。后者据
说保险设计不人性化。我用的是Mossberg 500。我个人不建议没有枪托的猎枪，因为射
击起来不好控制。家庭防卫很多人建议买00buck散弹，我用的也是这种。
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】
: 推荐一个泵动的吧。 请示我不懂有什么区别。
|
t******8
发帖数: 2803 | 14 不敢当，还是TMR等前辈领入门的。
现在倒没发现可靠性是个大问题。我不用#7 1/2以下的子弹，而且永远保持导气管和气
孔的清洁，所以比较有信心。要出问题应该还是在弹夹上。
S-12的用途主要是娱乐和应对社会崩溃(heaven forbid it happens in my
lifetime)。镇宅还是想买泵动猎枪，不是可靠性考虑，而是万一使用后法律上的
问题。貌似还没有S-12杀人的案例出现，不想和武士刀一样被抓把柄。
另外作为镇宅子弹长期保存还有待验证。因为霰弹比较软，所以如果弹夹装满会担心
它们变成椭圆形，另外不能把弹夹长期插在闭合的枪栓下，第一发子弹顶着枪栓会变
形。
变成发烧友的话改装S-12其实最后花费会不少。美国造的的弹夹要30块钱，20发的弹
鼓要100块钱，keepshooting.com的5发弹夹倒便宜，买了两个还没寄到。
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: 嗯tofu应该是这方面的专家了，因为他有这只枪。我对这种枪的了解是非常少的。普遍
: 来讲，这种枪一般可能存在的问题就是进退子弹，有些弱得散弹没有足够的压力供弹。
: 但是如果选择合适的子弹可靠性应该还是可以的。
: 对于我个人来讲，我还是更喜欢泵动的猎枪，因为它更简单，也应该更可靠。当然，如
: 果考虑火力，那还是saiga的那个shotgun要猛的多，尤其是配上大弹鼓的时候，基本上
: 就是超级杀器，枪林弹雨。
|
t******8
发帖数: 2803 | 15 想买个二手mossberg，不知道200块钱能否拿下
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: 美国最普遍的价廉物美而且信誉不错的应该是Mossberg 500和Remington 870。后者据
: 说保险设计不人性化。我用的是Mossberg 500。我个人不建议没有枪托的猎枪，因为射
: 击起来不好控制。家庭防卫很多人建议买00buck散弹，我用的也是这种。
|
q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 16 wtf...
【在 B****r 的大作中提到】
: 大家要抓紧备战，不是我忽悠，是Federal CDC说的。
: http://emergency.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp
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m****s
发帖数: 10867 | 17 M500? 200块钱要看运气
【在 t******8 的大作中提到】
: 想买个二手mossberg，不知道200块钱能否拿下
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C*******d
发帖数: 15836 | 18 我在Dick Sports打折买的Mossberg 500带两个管：28“鹿管和24“Rifled管，也才～
250块钱。200块钱买一般的二手Mossberg 500应该没问题，除非你说得二手的是个高级
的Mossberg。
【在 t******8 的大作中提到】
: 想买个二手mossberg，不知道200块钱能否拿下
|
C*******d
发帖数: 15836 | 19 有道理！你提到的子弹变形我也有这个担心。前不久不是某位本版兄弟提到连金属壳的
步枪子弹长期在弹匣压着都可能变形吗？这个问题对猎枪弹应该更严重。因为我后面有
半自动攻击步枪坐镇来预防大规模攻击，所以个人认为泵动猎枪对我来说应该足够了。
说到法律问题，这个我觉得应该如果枪和弹都合法，问题应该不大，除非你把来犯之敌
轰的四分五裂：）
【在 t******8 的大作中提到】
: 不敢当，还是TMR等前辈领入门的。
: 现在倒没发现可靠性是个大问题。我不用#7 1/2以下的子弹，而且永远保持导气管和气
: 孔的清洁，所以比较有信心。要出问题应该还是在弹夹上。
: S-12的用途主要是娱乐和应对社会崩溃(heaven forbid it happens in my
: lifetime)。镇宅还是想买泵动猎枪，不是可靠性考虑，而是万一使用后法律上的
: 问题。貌似还没有S-12杀人的案例出现，不想和武士刀一样被抓把柄。
: 另外作为镇宅子弹长期保存还有待验证。因为霰弹比较软，所以如果弹夹装满会担心
: 它们变成椭圆形，另外不能把弹夹长期插在闭合的枪栓下，第一发子弹顶着枪栓会变
: 形。
: 变成发烧友的话改装S-12其实最后花费会不少。美国造的的弹夹要30块钱，20发的弹
|
W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 20 刚才查了一下CDC， NIH， HHS，zombies还是属于2012一类的东西。
and
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: "If zombies did start roaming the streets, CDC would conduct an
: investigation much like any other disease outbreak. CDC would provide
: technical assistance to cities, states, or international partners dealing
: with a zombie infestation. This assistance might include consultation, lab
: testing and analysis, patient management and care, tracking of contacts, and
: infection control (including isolation and quarantine). "
: 这个CDC可是实打实的最权威的政府疾病控制部门了。连它都对僵尸病毒提出了非常具
: 体的应对措施和对民众的应对建议，这其实是一个很严重的动向了。其实几年前就已经
: 研究出有这种病毒，一旦染病人将无法控制自己的行为。而动物的僵尸病毒也被早前发
: 现了。现在各种激素，环境污染，毒品，核辐射等等威胁人类，我觉得真正的出现僵尸
|
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C*******d
发帖数: 15836 | 21 这个是National Geographic的材料：
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/10/1001027-rabies-
细菌侵入蚂蚁进而控制蚂蚁的行动也几年前就被证实了。
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: 刚才查了一下CDC， NIH， HHS，zombies还是属于2012一类的东西。
:
: and
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W********t
发帖数: 8514 | 22 我还是先关心一下我们家今天的晚饭吧。。。
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: 这个是National Geographic的材料：
: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/10/1001027-rabies-
: 细菌侵入蚂蚁进而控制蚂蚁的行动也几年前就被证实了。
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C*******d
发帖数: 15836 | 23 然！这个的确是大家都要更关心的更急切的问题：）
【在 W********t 的大作中提到】
: 我还是先关心一下我们家今天的晚饭吧。。。
|
U******u
发帖数: 5829 | 24
worry too much on zombie!!!
it's kind of joke or alternative word for "" lal. more concern car accidents
, robbery or ilegal attack, home accidency--fire, injuries, poison, etc are
more common and frequently-seeing issues and do need seriously face them,
rather to be too naive after watching those junky horry movies!!!
At least I'm not stupid enough to watch those junky movies.....hehehe.....
read following from CDC!!!
Social Media: Preparedness 101: Zombie Apocalypse
The following was originally posted on CDC Public Health Matters Blog on May
16th, 2011 by Ali S. Khan.
There are all kinds of emergencies out there that we can prepare for. Take a
zombie apocalypse for example. That’s right, I said z-o-m-b-i-e a-p-o-c-a-
l-y-p-s-e. You may laugh now, but when it happens you’ll be happy you read
this, and hey, maybe you’ll even learn a thing or two about how to prepare
for a real emergency.
A Brief History of Zombies
We’ve all seen at least one movie about flesh-eating zombies taking over (
my personal favorite is Resident Evil), but where do zombies come from and
why do they love eating brains so much? The word zombie comes from Haitian
and New Orleans voodoo origins. Although its meaning has changed slightly
over the years, it refers to a human corpse mysteriously reanimated to serve
the undead. Through ancient voodoo and folk-lore traditions, shows like the
Walking Dead were born.
A couple dressed as zombies - Danny Zucco and Sandy Olsson from the movie
Grease walking in the annual Toronto Zombie Walk.
In movies, shows, and literature, zombies are often depicted as being
created by an infectious virus, which is passed on via bites and contact
with bodily fluids. Harvard psychiatrist Steven Schoolman wrote a (fictional
) medical paper on the zombies presented in Night of the Living Dead and
refers to the condition as Ataxic Neurodegenerative Satiety Deficiency
Syndrome caused by an infectious agent. The Zombie Survival Guide identifies
the cause of zombies as a virus called solanum. Other zombie origins shown
in films include radiation from a destroyed NASA Venus probe (as in Night of
the Living Dead), as well as mutations of existing conditions such as
prions, mad-cow disease, measles and rabies.
The rise of zombies in pop culture has given credence to the idea that a
zombie apocalypse could happen. In such a scenario zombies would take over
entire countries, roaming city streets eating anything living that got in
their way. The proliferation of this idea has led many people to wonder “
How do I prepare for a zombie apocalypse?”
Well, we’re here to answer that question for you, and hopefully share a few
tips about preparing for real emergencies too!
Better Safe than Sorry
Some of the supplies for your emergency kit.
So what do you need to do before zombies…or hurricanes or pandemics for
example, actually happen? First of all, you should have an emergency kit in
your house. This includes things like water, food, and other supplies to get
you through the first couple of days before you can locate a zombie-free
refugee camp (or in the event of a natural disaster, it will buy you some
time until you are able to make your way to an evacuation shelter or utility
lines are restored). Below are a few items you should include in your kit,
for a full list visit the CDC Emergency page.
Water (1 gallon per person per day)
Food (stock up on non-perishable items that you eat regularly)
Medications (this includes prescription and non-prescription meds)
Tools and Supplies (utility knife, duct tape, battery powered radio, etc.)
Sanitation and Hygiene (household bleach, soap, towels, etc.)
Clothing and Bedding (a change of clothes for each family member and
blankets)
Important documents (copies of your driver’s license, passport, and birth
certificate to name a few)
First Aid supplies (although you’re a goner if a zombie bites you, you can
use these supplies to treat basic cuts and lacerations that you might get
during a tornado or hurricane)
Once you’ve made your emergency kit, you should sit down with your family
and come up with an emergency plan. This includes where you would go and who
you would call if zombies started appearing outside your door step. You can
also implement this plan if there is a flood, earthquake, or other
emergency.
Family members meeting by their mailbox. You should pick two meeting places,
one close to your home and one farther away.
Identify the types of emergencies that are possible in your area. Besides a
zombie apocalypse, this may include floods, tornadoes, or earthquakes. If
you are unsure contact your local Red Cross chapter for more information.
Pick a meeting place for your family to regroup in case zombies invade your
home…or your town evacuates because of a hurricane. Pick one place right
outside your home for sudden emergencies and one place outside of your
neighborhood in case you are unable to return home right away.
Identify your emergency contacts. Make a list of local contacts like the
police, fire department, and your local zombie response team. Also identify
an out-of-state contact that you can call during an emergency to let the
rest of your family know you are ok.
Plan your evacuation route. When zombies are hungry they won’t stop until
they get food (i.e., brains), which means you need to get out of town fast!
Plan where you would go and multiple routes you would take ahead of time so
that the flesh eaters don’t have a chance! This is also helpful when
natural disasters strike and you have to take shelter fast.
Never Fear – CDC is Ready
Get a Kit, Make a Plan, Be Prepared
If zombies did start roaming the streets, CDC would conduct an investigation
much like any other disease outbreak. CDC would provide technical
assistance to cities, states, or international partners dealing with a
zombie infestation. This assistance might include consultation, lab testing
and analysis, patient management and care, tracking of contacts, and
infection control (including isolation and quarantine). It’s likely that an
investigation of this scenario would seek to accomplish several goals:
determine the cause of the illness, the source of the infection/virus/toxin,
learn how it is transmitted and how readily it is spread, how to break the
cycle of transmission and thus prevent further cases, and how patients can
best be treated. Not only would scientists be working to identify the cause
and cure of the zombie outbreak, but CDC and other federal agencies would
send medical teams and first responders to help those in affected areas (I
will be volunteering the young nameless disease detectives for the field
work).
To learn more about what CDC does to prepare for and respond to emergencies
of all kinds, visit:
http://emergency.cdc.gov/cdc/orgs_progs.asp
To learn more about how you can prepare for and stay safe during an
emergency visit:
http://emergency.cdc.gov/
To download a badge like the one above that you can add to your social
networking profile, blog, website, or email signature visit:
http://emergency.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies.asp
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: 哇，这么真没得说了。连政府都承认有zombie了，大家还是真的往这方面准备一下。我
: 也得吧我的猎枪好好拾掇一下。
|
M*******n
发帖数: 1165 | 25 CDC...之前干的都是正经事啊，估计是这个blogger的兴趣吧，这个Ali Khan |
T******g
发帖数: 21328 | |
a*******d
发帖数: 4846 | 27 似乎pistol子弹没有这个担忧，估计主要还是因为pistol
经常去靶场打，因而子弹不会在弹夹中呆太长时间。
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: 有道理！你提到的子弹变形我也有这个担心。前不久不是某位本版兄弟提到连金属壳的
: 步枪子弹长期在弹匣压着都可能变形吗？这个问题对猎枪弹应该更严重。因为我后面有
: 半自动攻击步枪坐镇来预防大规模攻击，所以个人认为泵动猎枪对我来说应该足够了。
: 说到法律问题，这个我觉得应该如果枪和弹都合法，问题应该不大，除非你把来犯之敌
: 轰的四分五裂：）
|
C*******d
发帖数: 15836 | 28 嗯，应该是这样。好像比较好的Practice是如果不经差打靶的话定期的（2-3个星期）
把弹夹和其中的子弹轮
换，以避免这种事情。
【在 a*******d 的大作中提到】
: 似乎pistol子弹没有这个担忧，估计主要还是因为pistol
: 经常去靶场打，因而子弹不会在弹夹中呆太长时间。
|
a*******d
发帖数: 4846 | 29 同意。特别是家里值班的pistol一般是JHP子弹的，老打JHP
不便宜，也不现实。
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，应该是这样。好像比较好的Practice是如果不经差打靶的话定期的（2-3个星期）
: 把弹夹和其中的子弹轮
: 换，以避免这种事情。
|
C*******d
发帖数: 15836 | 30 是这样！
【在 a*******d 的大作中提到】
: 同意。特别是家里值班的pistol一般是JHP子弹的，老打JHP
: 不便宜，也不现实。
|
