c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 1 in my own humble opinion: as asians, if you are shorter than 5:10 (USA men's
average height), it looks better to add some weights, ideally muscle, but if
not, both muscle and fat, works too.
Guys can't be both lower BMI and short, whereas gals should have lower BMI
no
matter how tall she is.
those passionable runners, as elite athletes, are indeed having lower BMI
and
body fat percentage, they maintain that for better performance, but as a
group: asian men in USA, we need to bulk up especially if you are short. | b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 2 LZ系ABC?
's
if
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: in my own humble opinion: as asians, if you are shorter than 5:10 (USA men's
: average height), it looks better to add some weights, ideally muscle, but if
: not, both muscle and fat, works too.
: Guys can't be both lower BMI and short, whereas gals should have lower BMI
: no
: matter how tall she is.
: those passionable runners, as elite athletes, are indeed having lower BMI
: and
: body fat percentage, they maintain that for better performance, but as a
: group: asian men in USA, we need to bulk up especially if you are short.
| w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 3 my reply to LZ was deleted by dai. I'm curious about what sleepingbag
replied which was also deleted.:)
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: LZ系ABC?
:
: 's
: if
| b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 4 yeah, i saw your reply. couldn't believe dai deleted it.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: my reply to LZ was deleted by dai. I'm curious about what sleepingbag
: replied which was also deleted.:)
| R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 5 how short r u, just curious..
's
if
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: in my own humble opinion: as asians, if you are shorter than 5:10 (USA men's
: average height), it looks better to add some weights, ideally muscle, but if
: not, both muscle and fat, works too.
: Guys can't be both lower BMI and short, whereas gals should have lower BMI
: no
: matter how tall she is.
: those passionable runners, as elite athletes, are indeed having lower BMI
: and
: body fat percentage, they maintain that for better performance, but as a
: group: asian men in USA, we need to bulk up especially if you are short.
| R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 6 Honestly, freedom of speech is not that easy, I can understand dai..
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: yeah, i saw your reply. couldn't believe dai deleted it.
| d*i
发帖数: 9453 | 7 睡袋的帖子我没有删，有些是他自己删的。
讨论问题归讨论问题，公开版面发言最好不要夹带有人身攻击的词语。
要不然讨论也没办法继续下去，大家都吵架去了。
比如你可以重新回一帖，同样的意思，更心平气和一些。
谢谢配合。
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: my reply to LZ was deleted by dai. I'm curious about what sleepingbag
: replied which was also deleted.:)
| g***l
发帖数: 18555 | | R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 9 嗯， 俺其实同意这个， 肌肉也不是那么容易长的。。
不过也看什么目的， 有的人喜欢用大肌肉武装自己，
增强自信心， 有的人不需要这些外表的东西， 更看重
的是实用性。。
各人喜欢就好， 没必要说亚洲人就非要变成body-builder..
【在 g***l 的大作中提到】
: 肌肉再大也不算大，因为基数就小，可以放开了练。
| c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 10 i am 5. 10, 165lb now, a very competitive athlete in multi-sports..
being too muscular indeed deferred my sports performance when i pumped up
to 182lb, back to 2009 when i focused on tennis (15 hours a week) w/o
much weight lifting, my weight went to 152lb, i could see 6 packs.
Maybe due to the fact i have seen so many asians short and skinny, we could
not change our height, but we could change our size, right?
The culture at USA is the bigger, the better, even though i don't agree with
it
that much, at least we need to follow the mainstream, right?
we can do a survey among all the gals here: if one guy is 5.6, do you think
he is more attractive when he is 140 lb or 120 lb considering he has the
same body fat percentage?
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: how short r u, just curious..
:
: 's
: if
| | | b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 11 I agree with you. I was quite attractive when my BMI was 26 a few years ago.
No w I am married and going to have two kids soon, I need to get my BMI
down to 20 to become less attractive. :)
could
with
think
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: i am 5. 10, 165lb now, a very competitive athlete in multi-sports..
: being too muscular indeed deferred my sports performance when i pumped up
: to 182lb, back to 2009 when i focused on tennis (15 hours a week) w/o
: much weight lifting, my weight went to 152lb, i could see 6 packs.
: Maybe due to the fact i have seen so many asians short and skinny, we could
: not change our height, but we could change our size, right?
: The culture at USA is the bigger, the better, even though i don't agree with
: it
: that much, at least we need to follow the mainstream, right?
: we can do a survey among all the gals here: if one guy is 5.6, do you think
| R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 12 Actually if a guy has confidence, his sex appeal is not the only
thing he cares.
My point is the leaner the better, and muscle has to be useful
(for you, it is tennis), not just for show business. Meanwhile,
there are still lots of girls like Bruce Lee type of figure, so
you may have your opinion, but you are not the standard, and
require everyone to follow your standard.
could
with
think
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: i am 5. 10, 165lb now, a very competitive athlete in multi-sports..
: being too muscular indeed deferred my sports performance when i pumped up
: to 182lb, back to 2009 when i focused on tennis (15 hours a week) w/o
: much weight lifting, my weight went to 152lb, i could see 6 packs.
: Maybe due to the fact i have seen so many asians short and skinny, we could
: not change our height, but we could change our size, right?
: The culture at USA is the bigger, the better, even though i don't agree with
: it
: that much, at least we need to follow the mainstream, right?
: we can do a survey among all the gals here: if one guy is 5.6, do you think
| R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 13 see, that's called confidence :)
btw: two kids? @@
ago.
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: I agree with you. I was quite attractive when my BMI was 26 a few years ago.
: No w I am married and going to have two kids soon, I need to get my BMI
: down to 20 to become less attractive. :)
:
: could
: with
: think
| c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 14 twins? congrat.s, you will enjoy being daddy..
ago.
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: I agree with you. I was quite attractive when my BMI was 26 a few years ago.
: No w I am married and going to have two kids soon, I need to get my BMI
: down to 20 to become less attractive. :)
:
: could
: with
: think
| b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 15 thanks. i mean i already have a baby, and is expecting another one in 5
months.
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: twins? congrat.s, you will enjoy being daddy..
:
: ago.
| c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 16 Confidence alone is not enough, yes, i am just talking about my opinion, as
i said IMHO, i don't need others to follow, BTW, Bruce was not light-
weighted
at all, he was about 140lb as 5.7.
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: Actually if a guy has confidence, his sex appeal is not the only
: thing he cares.
: My point is the leaner the better, and muscle has to be useful
: (for you, it is tennis), not just for show business. Meanwhile,
: there are still lots of girls like Bruce Lee type of figure, so
: you may have your opinion, but you are not the standard, and
: require everyone to follow your standard.
:
: could
: with
| c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 17 Some athletes, like runners, they could enjoy their accomplishments
when they reach their full running potential, so there is a trade-off
from their body images... This is a personal issue, as a whole
asian american group, i would rather see more built-up asians.
Asian women are proportionally represented in public media of USA,
how about asian men? | R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 18 Who cares the so called public media of USA. You may win
respect from all kinds of ways, not just from the body.
Olympic is not beauty pageant, Fitness is not just show
business..
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: Some athletes, like runners, they could enjoy their accomplishments
: when they reach their full running potential, so there is a trade-off
: from their body images... This is a personal issue, as a whole
: asian american group, i would rather see more built-up asians.
: Asian women are proportionally represented in public media of USA,
: how about asian men?
| R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 19 BMI 21, way too skinny by your standard.
as
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: Confidence alone is not enough, yes, i am just talking about my opinion, as
: i said IMHO, i don't need others to follow, BTW, Bruce was not light-
: weighted
: at all, he was about 140lb as 5.7.
| c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 20 that is true, so i said there is a trade-off, some sports, in order to
achieve our own potential, enjoy the peak of ourselves, we need to damage
the image, let alone health. This is applied to individuals.
But as a whole, it is another business, after you have lived in this country
for a long time, you would start to realize asian men are not proportionally
represented, they exist, but public media think they are not.
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: Who cares the so called public media of USA. You may win
: respect from all kinds of ways, not just from the body.
: Olympic is not beauty pageant, Fitness is not just show
: business..
| | | c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 21 not really, even though it is at the end of the other range... guys below 5.
10
should maintain BMI at least 20...
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: BMI 21, way too skinny by your standard.
:
: as
| R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 22 Honestly, that's more about culture or even politics,
not so much business with the body fiture.
Fat Asian are still Asian..
And I dont live to please the others..
country
proportionally
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: that is true, so i said there is a trade-off, some sports, in order to
: achieve our own potential, enjoy the peak of ourselves, we need to damage
: the image, let alone health. This is applied to individuals.
: But as a whole, it is another business, after you have lived in this country
: for a long time, you would start to realize asian men are not proportionally
: represented, they exist, but public media think they are not.
| R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 23 Again, that's your standard, which is BS to me..
Anyway, I understand what you mean, but still,
it's just personal favorite, you dont need to
require everyone looks the same as you.
5.
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: not really, even though it is at the end of the other range... guys below 5.
: 10
: should maintain BMI at least 20...
| w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 24 "at least we need to follow the mainstream, right?"
No, not at all.
And if you think you can attract American woman by just being muscular, you'
d be dead wrong. Women like
men that are classy, well mannered, and chivalrous. Both my wife and her
sister think that overly muscular
short men are gross, because they just look like they are trying to cover up
their shortness with muscles, and
guess what, women aren't that stupid. Even if you had muscles you'd still be
short.
Quite the opposite an example, Haile Grebrselassie stands 5'5. To those who truly know him, he is a giant.
could
with
think
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: i am 5. 10, 165lb now, a very competitive athlete in multi-sports..
: being too muscular indeed deferred my sports performance when i pumped up
: to 182lb, back to 2009 when i focused on tennis (15 hours a week) w/o
: much weight lifting, my weight went to 152lb, i could see 6 packs.
: Maybe due to the fact i have seen so many asians short and skinny, we could
: not change our height, but we could change our size, right?
: The culture at USA is the bigger, the better, even though i don't agree with
: it
: that much, at least we need to follow the mainstream, right?
: we can do a survey among all the gals here: if one guy is 5.6, do you think
| z********0
发帖数: 9013 | 25 Congs!
You're fine now.
But how about your bros who are still single? :D
ago.
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: I agree with you. I was quite attractive when my BMI was 26 a few years ago.
: No w I am married and going to have two kids soon, I need to get my BMI
: down to 20 to become less attractive. :)
:
: could
: with
: think
| b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 26 overly muscular short men look shorter too.
you'
up
be
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: "at least we need to follow the mainstream, right?"
: No, not at all.
: And if you think you can attract American woman by just being muscular, you'
: d be dead wrong. Women like
: men that are classy, well mannered, and chivalrous. Both my wife and her
: sister think that overly muscular
: short men are gross, because they just look like they are trying to cover up
: their shortness with muscles, and
: guess what, women aren't that stupid. Even if you had muscles you'd still be
: short.
| z********0
发帖数: 9013 | 27 <20 的也是少数了吧，我感觉。。。
在 chen91 (win) 的大作中提到: 】
5. | b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 28 for asian short men, Bruce Lee will be a good model, just my opinion
【在 z********0 的大作中提到】
: Congs!
: You're fine now.
: But how about your bros who are still single? :D
:
: ago.
| S*********g
发帖数: 7653 | 29
还是挺多
不是runner，就是我们这里的好多小本，都110多斤，100多斤左右，从来也不锻炼
【在 z********0 的大作中提到】
: <20 的也是少数了吧，我感觉。。。
: 在 chen91 (win) 的大作中提到: 】
: 5.
| R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 30 运动员也是少数， 美国不肥胖的人群也是少数， so?
who cares so called freaking mainstream, what I believe
is what really matters.
【在 z********0 的大作中提到】
: <20 的也是少数了吧，我感觉。。。
: 在 chen91 (win) 的大作中提到: 】
: 5.
| | | z********0
发帖数: 9013 | 31 这个现象挺有意思的。
他们肯定也不会节食啥的吧。 为啥这么瘦？ 肌肉特别少吧。那代谢也不会特别高。吃
的热量去哪里了？
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
:
: 还是挺多
: 不是runner，就是我们这里的好多小本，都110多斤，100多斤左右，从来也不锻炼
| R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 32 I think the most important thing to attract girls is personality,
or say chemistry.
If someone are good at sports/singing/dancing, even talking,
he will be as hot as Black stars here.
And indeed, one looks taller when skinnier..
you'
up
be
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: "at least we need to follow the mainstream, right?"
: No, not at all.
: And if you think you can attract American woman by just being muscular, you'
: d be dead wrong. Women like
: men that are classy, well mannered, and chivalrous. Both my wife and her
: sister think that overly muscular
: short men are gross, because they just look like they are trying to cover up
: their shortness with muscles, and
: guess what, women aren't that stupid. Even if you had muscles you'd still be
: short.
| z********0
发帖数: 9013 | 33 你说的和我说的没啥关系。
我要说的是： LZ说asian给人的印象是瘦，而按他的标准，瘦的又是少数，所以逻辑上
不是很通顺。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 运动员也是少数， 美国不肥胖的人群也是少数， so?
: who cares so called freaking mainstream, what I believe
: is what really matters.
| R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 34 其实胖瘦无所谓， 对男的来说， 精神面貌， 谈吐重要的多。。
【在 z********0 的大作中提到】
: 你说的和我说的没啥关系。
: 我要说的是： LZ说asian给人的印象是瘦，而按他的标准，瘦的又是少数，所以逻辑上
: 不是很通顺。
| d*i
发帖数: 9453 | 35 很多时候第一印象还是比较重要的，
不过具体怎么才能加分，我觉得得看是要找中国mm还是白女了。
如果是找中国mm，恐怕还是瘦点好，当然也不能太皮包骨，
但是过于bulky了很难有人要，谈吐面貌再好也没戏。
咱版上的那个谁谁谁就是最好的例证，呵呵。
换成追白女，我觉得恰恰反过来，太瘦弱的，大部分直接被pass了，
连表现的机会都没有。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 其实胖瘦无所谓， 对男的来说， 精神面貌， 谈吐重要的多。。
| z********0
发帖数: 9013 | 36 这个。。。男人说了不算，得女ID来说 ：D
不过LZ没说胖瘦是first priority, 只是说太瘦了不好看，不主流啥的
你呢，说你不care mainstream, 这也OK，没啥
但是你们是在各说各的。。。。
王欢喜的一个说法却是直接针对LZ的，就是说女人不喜欢矮胖的。
（我就稍稍总结一下各方的说法哈，大家就同一命题交火好了，不要把火力分散了）
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 其实胖瘦无所谓， 对男的来说， 精神面貌， 谈吐重要的多。。
| z********0
发帖数: 9013 | 37 谁谁谁？ 戴总给俺们新人讲讲版上的掌故吧。。。。 ：D
【在 d*i 的大作中提到】
: 很多时候第一印象还是比较重要的，
: 不过具体怎么才能加分，我觉得得看是要找中国mm还是白女了。
: 如果是找中国mm，恐怕还是瘦点好，当然也不能太皮包骨，
: 但是过于bulky了很难有人要，谈吐面貌再好也没戏。
: 咱版上的那个谁谁谁就是最好的例证，呵呵。
: 换成追白女，我觉得恰恰反过来，太瘦弱的，大部分直接被pass了，
: 连表现的机会都没有。
| m******i
发帖数: 9479 | 38 支持dai总……
【在 d*i 的大作中提到】
: 很多时候第一印象还是比较重要的，
: 不过具体怎么才能加分，我觉得得看是要找中国mm还是白女了。
: 如果是找中国mm，恐怕还是瘦点好，当然也不能太皮包骨，
: 但是过于bulky了很难有人要，谈吐面貌再好也没戏。
: 咱版上的那个谁谁谁就是最好的例证，呵呵。
: 换成追白女，我觉得恰恰反过来，太瘦弱的，大部分直接被pass了，
: 连表现的机会都没有。
| N****O
发帖数: 4202 | 39 You wife is white?
you'
up
be
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: "at least we need to follow the mainstream, right?"
: No, not at all.
: And if you think you can attract American woman by just being muscular, you'
: d be dead wrong. Women like
: men that are classy, well mannered, and chivalrous. Both my wife and her
: sister think that overly muscular
: short men are gross, because they just look like they are trying to cover up
: their shortness with muscles, and
: guess what, women aren't that stupid. Even if you had muscles you'd still be
: short.
| R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 40 第一印象主要其实就是谈吐和精神面貌， 你说追白女，
太廋弱的会被直接pass就是偏见了哈， 俺以前一个特廋的
哥们儿随便追, 关键是你话得说利索了 ：）
其实特想看LZ这个运动健将奔一个。。
【在 d*i 的大作中提到】
: 很多时候第一印象还是比较重要的，
: 不过具体怎么才能加分，我觉得得看是要找中国mm还是白女了。
: 如果是找中国mm，恐怕还是瘦点好，当然也不能太皮包骨，
: 但是过于bulky了很难有人要，谈吐面貌再好也没戏。
: 咱版上的那个谁谁谁就是最好的例证，呵呵。
: 换成追白女，我觉得恰恰反过来，太瘦弱的，大部分直接被pass了，
: 连表现的机会都没有。
| | | d*i
发帖数: 9453 | 41 lz以前奔过，你错过了:)
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 第一印象主要其实就是谈吐和精神面貌， 你说追白女，
: 太廋弱的会被直接pass就是偏见了哈， 俺以前一个特廋的
: 哥们儿随便追, 关键是你话得说利索了 ：）
: 其实特想看LZ这个运动健将奔一个。。
| N****O
发帖数: 4202 | 42 支持你~我觉得140lb更吸引人。我知道你说的是针对普通黄种男人的身高，不是针对黄
种男人中偏矮的。而且你说的也不是特别bulky那种肌肉。
could
with
think
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: i am 5. 10, 165lb now, a very competitive athlete in multi-sports..
: being too muscular indeed deferred my sports performance when i pumped up
: to 182lb, back to 2009 when i focused on tennis (15 hours a week) w/o
: much weight lifting, my weight went to 152lb, i could see 6 packs.
: Maybe due to the fact i have seen so many asians short and skinny, we could
: not change our height, but we could change our size, right?
: The culture at USA is the bigger, the better, even though i don't agree with
: it
: that much, at least we need to follow the mainstream, right?
: we can do a survey among all the gals here: if one guy is 5.6, do you think
| R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 43 LZ也是男的啊， 他为啥就能代表主流？ 说实话， 好看不好看，
完全是各人口味， 萝卜白菜， 各有所爱而已。。
【在 z********0 的大作中提到】
: 这个。。。男人说了不算，得女ID来说 ：D
: 不过LZ没说胖瘦是first priority, 只是说太瘦了不好看，不主流啥的
: 你呢，说你不care mainstream, 这也OK，没啥
: 但是你们是在各说各的。。。。
: 王欢喜的一个说法却是直接针对LZ的，就是说女人不喜欢矮胖的。
: （我就稍稍总结一下各方的说法哈，大家就同一命题交火好了，不要把火力分散了）
| R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 44 可以大尺度再来一次。。
【在 d*i 的大作中提到】
: lz以前奔过，你错过了:)
| c******t
发帖数: 1733 | 45 呼唤细节，"那个谁谁谁"
【在 d*i 的大作中提到】
: 很多时候第一印象还是比较重要的，
: 不过具体怎么才能加分，我觉得得看是要找中国mm还是白女了。
: 如果是找中国mm，恐怕还是瘦点好，当然也不能太皮包骨，
: 但是过于bulky了很难有人要，谈吐面貌再好也没戏。
: 咱版上的那个谁谁谁就是最好的例证，呵呵。
: 换成追白女，我觉得恰恰反过来，太瘦弱的，大部分直接被pass了，
: 连表现的机会都没有。
| S*********g
发帖数: 7653 | 46
呼唤欢喜GG来回答，哈哈：）
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】
: You wife is white?
:
: you'
: up
: be
| m******t
发帖数: 1088 | 47 一直在版上，从来没删过。
http://www.mitbbs.com/bbsdoc1/Fitness_450_0.html
470左右
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 可以大尺度再来一次。。
| z*****a
发帖数: 9790 | 48 lz本人还是很强的，我记得，不用质疑
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 第一印象主要其实就是谈吐和精神面貌， 你说追白女，
: 太廋弱的会被直接pass就是偏见了哈， 俺以前一个特廋的
: 哥们儿随便追, 关键是你话得说利索了 ：）
: 其实特想看LZ这个运动健将奔一个。。
| z*****a
发帖数: 9790 | 49 好象是soccer版某id，回国相亲的故事
【在 c******t 的大作中提到】
: 呼唤细节，"那个谁谁谁"
| c******t
发帖数: 1733 | 50 那个胖哥呀，我还以为说瓜叔
肥猫有一年没来了吧，回国找小三了？
【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】
: 好象是soccer版某id，回国相亲的故事
| | | z*****a
发帖数: 9790 | 51 我就是lz说得short+skinny的类型，哪里有胆子找小三
【在 c******t 的大作中提到】
: 那个胖哥呀，我还以为说瓜叔
: 肥猫有一年没来了吧，回国找小三了？
| z********0
发帖数: 9013 | 52 那按LZ说法，更得回国找了，哈哈！
【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】
: 我就是lz说得short+skinny的类型，哪里有胆子找小三
| c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 53 no Baozi la? Dai mm, it is on top 10 in sports... | d*i
发帖数: 9453 | 54 你再奔一个吧，给你发包子～
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: no Baozi la? Dai mm, it is on top 10 in sports...
| u******a
发帖数: 7843 | 55 看着比例很好...而且是照片里最有精神的一人. 这多少磅啊?
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: no Baozi la? Dai mm, it is on top 10 in sports...
| z********0
发帖数: 9013 | 56 是树状的那个？ ：D
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: no Baozi la? Dai mm, it is on top 10 in sports...
| c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 57 180lb at that time...
【在 u******a 的大作中提到】
: 看着比例很好...而且是照片里最有精神的一人. 这多少磅啊?
| u******a
发帖数: 7843 | 58 我觉着, 视觉上, 5'10'', 180lb是比较理想的体重了...
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 180lb at that time...
| R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 59 missed, 其实光谈体重意义不大， 关键看BF%多少， 俺当年
大肚子的时候也接近180lb了。。
【在 u******a 的大作中提到】
: 我觉着, 视觉上, 5'10'', 180lb是比较理想的体重了...
| d*i
发帖数: 9453 | 60 版面上还有张旧的
http://mitbbs.com/article1/Fitness/31475697_3_0.html
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: missed, 其实光谈体重意义不大， 关键看BF%多少， 俺当年
: 大肚子的时候也接近180lb了。。
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