j****n 发帖数: 32 | 1 http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/25/trump-administration-green-card-hurdle-242050
Immigration authorities will require an in-person interview for certain
applicants for green cards, a change likely to slow the process of obtaining
one.
The new requirement, which was confirmed Friday by a spokesman for the U.S.
Citizenship and Immigration Services, will apply to anyone moving from an
employment-based visa to lawful permanent residency. Visa holders who are
family members of refugees or people who receive asylum will also be
required to undergo an in-person interview when they apply for provisional
status, a stage that precedes receiving a green card, according to USCIS.
The added interview workload will almost certainly lengthen wait times from
green card applications. As of June 30, the office was processing
applications received more than six months earlier, according to a tracking
tool on the agency’s website.
Stephen Legomsky, USCIS chief counsel from 2011 to 2013, said it’s
difficult to say whether the interviews will be worth the effort.
“It probably does add some marginal value,” he said, “but whether that
value is enough to offset that additional work is hard to say.”
Langston said the agency plans to take measures to speed up the interview
process, including increased training and streamlining operations.
The agency did not provide details about where the interviews would take
place. |
f*******1 发帖数: 522 | 2 这什么意思?EB based Visa 是说从异国签证过来的?还是所有的?如果所有的都需要
面试,那可就漫长了。 |
j****n 发帖数: 32 | 3 就是指EB23吧?
【在 f*******1 的大作中提到】 : 这什么意思?EB based Visa 是说从异国签证过来的?还是所有的?如果所有的都需要 : 面试,那可就漫长了。
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f*******1 发帖数: 522 | 4 那他们有这么多面试官?现在面试的占多大比例?1/10?刚搜索这条新闻的关键字,没
发现其它网站登。
实际上,挨个面试效果或许适得其反,因为人多了,反倒导致面试的质量降低。
【在 j****n 的大作中提到】 : 就是指EB23吧?
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j****n 发帖数: 32 | 5 现在面试占很少数吧,这下麻烦了。。。
【在 f*******1 的大作中提到】 : 那他们有这么多面试官?现在面试的占多大比例?1/10?刚搜索这条新闻的关键字,没 : 发现其它网站登。 : 实际上,挨个面试效果或许适得其反,因为人多了,反倒导致面试的质量降低。
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f*******1 发帖数: 522 | 6 如果每个人都要面试,至少会延后一年或两年批准。这将是立竿见影的延迟。
而且按这个报道,他们并没有给时间表,什么时候开始增加面试官人手?培训?这些都
没做呢。而且这样的话,对他们的人力资源也是一个重新调配的过程,要在field
office增配人手,或者把几个中心的审批者分布到各个local office,这个过程容易么?
【在 j****n 的大作中提到】 : 现在面试占很少数吧,这下麻烦了。。。
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j****n 发帖数: 32 | 7 “An email sent to some USCIS staffers from acting Director James McCament
said the new policy will take effect Oct. 1.”
说是10月1号开始生效。。。
么?
【在 f*******1 的大作中提到】 : 如果每个人都要面试,至少会延后一年或两年批准。这将是立竿见影的延迟。 : 而且按这个报道,他们并没有给时间表,什么时候开始增加面试官人手?培训?这些都 : 没做呢。而且这样的话,对他们的人力资源也是一个重新调配的过程,要在field : office增配人手,或者把几个中心的审批者分布到各个local office,这个过程容易么?
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n******1 发帖数: 3756 | 8 这篇文章没有复制完整,链接的文章有些内容没有了,说十月开始
估计又一片混乱了 |
n******1 发帖数: 3756 | 9 这个消息应该是确切了,politico是比较有影响力的网站 |
x***4 发帖数: 1815 | 10 trump要玩死eb,没争议了吧,现在立法未开始,就搞各种各样的行政手段让你生不如
死。
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】 : 这篇文章没有复制完整,链接的文章有些内容没有了,说十月开始 : 估计又一片混乱了
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j****n 发帖数: 32 | 11 这里还有一篇相关的:
DHS to Require Interviews for More Than 100,000 Visa Holders:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/dhs-require-interviews-more-100-000-
visa-holders-n796126
“A DHS official who spoke on the condition of anonymity said the new policy
may be expanded to include other populations, such as students and green-
card holders, that do not currently require interviews to change status. The
increase could expand the number of interviews conducted to more than a
million a year, the official said.”
【在 f*******1 的大作中提到】 : 那他们有这么多面试官?现在面试的占多大比例?1/10?刚搜索这条新闻的关键字,没 : 发现其它网站登。 : 实际上,挨个面试效果或许适得其反,因为人多了,反倒导致面试的质量降低。
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l**c 发帖数: 360 | 12 晕死,排期在原来基础上再增加两年。
obtaining
.
【在 j****n 的大作中提到】 : http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/25/trump-administration-green-card-hurdle-242050 : Immigration authorities will require an in-person interview for certain : applicants for green cards, a change likely to slow the process of obtaining : one. : The new requirement, which was confirmed Friday by a spokesman for the U.S. : Citizenship and Immigration Services, will apply to anyone moving from an : employment-based visa to lawful permanent residency. Visa holders who are : family members of refugees or people who receive asylum will also be : required to undergo an in-person interview when they apply for provisional : status, a stage that precedes receiving a green card, according to USCIS.
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y******g 发帖数: 257 | 15 我記得婚姻綠卡和入籍公民都要面試吧。不算其它,就單這些人加起來就100多萬,加
個10萬可能uscis沒多大感覺吧。 |
S*******n 发帖数: 10009 | 16 公民面试根本就是不同的机构。如果要加到那边也只能排最后。
【在 y******g 的大作中提到】 : 我記得婚姻綠卡和入籍公民都要面試吧。不算其它,就單這些人加起來就100多萬,加 : 個10萬可能uscis沒多大感覺吧。
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s*****d 发帖数: 214 | 17 川粉MAGA,哈哈,活该
【在 j********2 的大作中提到】 : 我只能说没拿卡的川粉真是呵呵呵
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c********1 发帖数: 220 | 18 必须得让这个鸟人下台!没做一件好事,就会倒浆糊。MB什么都不懂,还吹牛,当选民
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x***4 发帖数: 1815 | 19 认真地问,有什么事大家可以做把他赶下台?
【在 c********1 的大作中提到】 : 必须得让这个鸟人下台!没做一件好事,就会倒浆糊。MB什么都不懂,还吹牛,当选民 : 是傻子!
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l***l 发帖数: 2448 | 20 EB = employment based
EB1,2,3都要面试?
【在 j****n 的大作中提到】 : 就是指EB23吧?
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s*******i 发帖数: 406 | 21 应该是针对空降的老印吧。Trump一直痛恨ICC抢了美国人饭碗的老印。估计ICC这回要
哭了。
老中都是正经过来拿学位走EB的,真没必要担心。 |
h****g 发帖数: 11365 | 22 如果针对烙印的话,直接把境外申请停掉就可以了,或者专门出台法律收拾icc
【在 s*******i 的大作中提到】 : 应该是针对空降的老印吧。Trump一直痛恨ICC抢了美国人饭碗的老印。估计ICC这回要 : 哭了。 : 老中都是正经过来拿学位走EB的,真没必要担心。
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l****h 发帖数: 793 | 23 疮粉:疮普只是针对非法移民,疮普只是针对难民,疮普只是针对烙印,疮普只是针对
ICC。。。
疮粉真可爱,要是只针对ICC,方法多的是。
有卡的疮粉是人品问题,无卡的疮粉是智商问题。
【在 s*******i 的大作中提到】 : 应该是针对空降的老印吧。Trump一直痛恨ICC抢了美国人饭碗的老印。估计ICC这回要 : 哭了。 : 老中都是正经过来拿学位走EB的,真没必要担心。
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f*******1 发帖数: 522 | 24 如果针对烙印,应该是H1B和DOL发perm的问题,而不是到移民局面试的问题。
【在 s*******i 的大作中提到】 : 应该是针对空降的老印吧。Trump一直痛恨ICC抢了美国人饭碗的老印。估计ICC这回要 : 哭了。 : 老中都是正经过来拿学位走EB的,真没必要担心。
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w*********o 发帖数: 3030 | 25 If this really goes into action, better pray you are interviewing in an
immigrant friendly blue city.
This would be less like a citizenship interview with defined US and personal
history questions, but more like a visa interview.
In reality, how many EB1 are at Einstein level and not padded in someway?
And how many employment based EB2/3 sponsor did actually go through rigorous
job postings and interviewing citizens for the position? It will be too
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w*********o 发帖数: 3030 | 26 On another thought, if this policy can stop dumb dumbs like you dragging
down the average IQ of Chinese American, maybe it can do some good in a dire
situation.
"Trump一直痛恨ICC抢了美国人饭碗的老印。" Looks like the crap you have been
self-feeding yourself did go to your brain.
【在 s*******i 的大作中提到】 : 应该是针对空降的老印吧。Trump一直痛恨ICC抢了美国人饭碗的老印。估计ICC这回要 : 哭了。 : 老中都是正经过来拿学位走EB的,真没必要担心。
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f*******1 发帖数: 522 | 27 这个跟签证还是有区别吧?
签证可以无理由拒签,但这个应该不会,毕竟人都在这里了,而且很多还呆了许多年。
只不过我觉得这个行政措施是不是执行的太突然了,这么大一个变动,需要移民局的很
大变动才是,不可能连个缓冲的时间都没有,马上执行必然会造成短期内很大的
processing delay,因为他们还没有准备好应对这个改变。
personal
rigorous
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】 : If this really goes into action, better pray you are interviewing in an : immigrant friendly blue city. : This would be less like a citizenship interview with defined US and personal : history questions, but more like a visa interview. : In reality, how many EB1 are at Einstein level and not padded in someway? : And how many employment based EB2/3 sponsor did actually go through rigorous : job postings and interviewing citizens for the position? It will be too : much trouble for employer to sponsor that.
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w*********o 发帖数: 3030 | 28 For EB1/EB2 HIW, the reason might be one is not as good as one claimed.
For employer sponsored EB, the reason might be the company didn't interview
enough citizen applicants for the position. The company would have to spend
much more to justify sponsoring greencard.
"人都在这里了,而且很多还呆了许多年。" the Dreamers have the same argument.
They are young labor force, actually grew up and were educated in US.
【在 f*******1 的大作中提到】 : 这个跟签证还是有区别吧? : 签证可以无理由拒签,但这个应该不会,毕竟人都在这里了,而且很多还呆了许多年。 : 只不过我觉得这个行政措施是不是执行的太突然了,这么大一个变动,需要移民局的很 : 大变动才是,不可能连个缓冲的时间都没有,马上执行必然会造成短期内很大的 : processing delay,因为他们还没有准备好应对这个改变。 : : personal : rigorous
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f*******1 发帖数: 522 | 29 要卡你,有的是办法,但我觉得美国政府各部门各司其职,Perm的批准是劳工部的事情
,如果USCIS面试质疑Perm的有效性(比如面试的美国公民不够多),那这个就是越权
了。已经批准的perm,移民局应该予以承认。
interview
spend
.
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】 : For EB1/EB2 HIW, the reason might be one is not as good as one claimed. : For employer sponsored EB, the reason might be the company didn't interview : enough citizen applicants for the position. The company would have to spend : much more to justify sponsoring greencard. : "人都在这里了,而且很多还呆了许多年。" the Dreamers have the same argument. : They are young labor force, actually grew up and were educated in US.
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h****1 发帖数: 87 | 30 这个应该不会10月1号立即落实,nbc的那篇新闻里说“Langston said the newly
required interviews would be phased in over many months, giving the agency
time to increase its staff.” 我对这句话的理解是,从新财年开始小范围推广
interview,逐步扩大到所有eb类别。
另外新闻里还提到,除了eb今后还会推广到其他visa类别:Carter Langston, a
spokesperson for USCIS, told POLITICO that the categories of visas that
require interviews will expand in the future, calling it “an incremental
expansion.” 这个incremental也是逐步推广的意思。
至于排期是否会收到影响,多大影响,我觉得完全看床铺政府如何操作执行了,这里面
有很大的discretionary power。
【在 f*******1 的大作中提到】 : 这个跟签证还是有区别吧? : 签证可以无理由拒签,但这个应该不会,毕竟人都在这里了,而且很多还呆了许多年。 : 只不过我觉得这个行政措施是不是执行的太突然了,这么大一个变动,需要移民局的很 : 大变动才是,不可能连个缓冲的时间都没有,马上执行必然会造成短期内很大的 : processing delay,因为他们还没有准备好应对这个改变。 : : personal : rigorous
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f*******1 发帖数: 522 | 31 你的解读make sense
【在 h****1 的大作中提到】 : 这个应该不会10月1号立即落实,nbc的那篇新闻里说“Langston said the newly : required interviews would be phased in over many months, giving the agency : time to increase its staff.” 我对这句话的理解是,从新财年开始小范围推广 : interview,逐步扩大到所有eb类别。 : 另外新闻里还提到,除了eb今后还会推广到其他visa类别:Carter Langston, a : spokesperson for USCIS, told POLITICO that the categories of visas that : require interviews will expand in the future, calling it “an incremental : expansion.” 这个incremental也是逐步推广的意思。 : 至于排期是否会收到影响,多大影响,我觉得完全看床铺政府如何操作执行了,这里面 : 有很大的discretionary power。
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p**********y 发帖数: 381 | 32 你这纯属瞎猜。我是员工又不是HR, 我哪知道公司面了多少citizen.
interview
spend
.
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】 : For EB1/EB2 HIW, the reason might be one is not as good as one claimed. : For employer sponsored EB, the reason might be the company didn't interview : enough citizen applicants for the position. The company would have to spend : much more to justify sponsoring greencard. : "人都在这里了,而且很多还呆了许多年。" the Dreamers have the same argument. : They are young labor force, actually grew up and were educated in US.
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w*********o 发帖数: 3030 | 33 移民局 is not questioning the 劳工部's decision, it is questioning the
accuracy of the information provided to the 劳工部 in this case. Anyway, it
is still a news report, not publicized policy. If it is really publicized,
there might be enough immigrant lawyers request clarification.
It is just sad to see that majority of the Chinese yellow dump ass kissers
are actually first generation from mainland China, not second generation, or
from outside mainland. They are in some way destroying the reputation of
Chinese mainland China.
【在 f*******1 的大作中提到】 : 要卡你,有的是办法,但我觉得美国政府各部门各司其职,Perm的批准是劳工部的事情 : ,如果USCIS面试质疑Perm的有效性(比如面试的美国公民不够多),那这个就是越权 : 了。已经批准的perm,移民局应该予以承认。 : : interview : spend : .
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w*********o 发帖数: 3030 | 34 Yes. I am guessing. But it is something the goverment can request from a
company for each individual case. How many company would want to take that
cost or legal responsibility?
【在 p**********y 的大作中提到】 : 你这纯属瞎猜。我是员工又不是HR, 我哪知道公司面了多少citizen. : : interview : spend : .
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h****1 发帖数: 87 | 35 NBC那篇新闻里提到消息是来自“An internal agency memo seen by NBC News”,
USCIS发言人确认了消息:Carter Langston, a spokesman for U.S. Citizenship and
Immigration Services, which is a part of DHS, confirmed the memo.
it
,
or
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】 : 移民局 is not questioning the 劳工部's decision, it is questioning the : accuracy of the information provided to the 劳工部 in this case. Anyway, it : is still a news report, not publicized policy. If it is really publicized, : there might be enough immigrant lawyers request clarification. : It is just sad to see that majority of the Chinese yellow dump ass kissers : are actually first generation from mainland China, not second generation, or : from outside mainland. They are in some way destroying the reputation of : Chinese mainland China.
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p**********y 发帖数: 381 | 36 不明白你的意思,你是说公司被要求提供证据找不到citizen, 公司不愿给?
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】 : Yes. I am guessing. But it is something the goverment can request from a : company for each individual case. How many company would want to take that : cost or legal responsibility?
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p**********y 发帖数: 381 | 37 文章明明说的是慢慢expand, 就说明一开始还是有很多人不用面试
【在 S*******n 的大作中提到】 : 公民面试根本就是不同的机构。如果要加到那边也只能排最后。
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M**Q 发帖数: 14 | 38 已经招进来的,公司估计还得给,不给岂不是违法了?
但是折腾几次,公司为了省那么多麻烦事儿,就不招H1-B了。其实现在很多公司甚至大
学都已经这个样子了。
【在 p**********y 的大作中提到】 : 不明白你的意思,你是说公司被要求提供证据找不到citizen, 公司不愿给?
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M**Q 发帖数: 14 | 39 自己安慰自己是可以的,但事情显然是越来越糟的。即便开始不面很多人,但是也会增
加很多工作量,制定制度,建立规则,培训人员等等,影响批卡的进度几乎是肯定的。
【在 p**********y 的大作中提到】 : 文章明明说的是慢慢expand, 就说明一开始还是有很多人不用面试
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s*******i 发帖数: 406 | 40 如果是这样的话必然民主党会跳出来说这是歧视。
具体可以参考当初对几个高危国家签证禁令。
即使Trump真打算停掉ICC境外申请民主党也不会同意的。更别提出台法律了。
【在 h****g 的大作中提到】 : 如果针对烙印的话,直接把境外申请停掉就可以了,或者专门出台法律收拾icc
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l****h 发帖数: 793 | 41 疮粉真牛b,这么明显对中国EB不利的政策都还能洗地。你懂什么叫歧视么?停掉ICC不
是针对某个种族,不是针对某个国家,不是针对某个宗教,不是针对某个性别,跟他的
穆斯林禁令相比根本算不上歧视。穆斯林禁令都能被床铺辩护成不是歧视,停掉ICC算
个p啊。会有很多人跳出来反对停掉ICC,但不会用歧视这个理由。如果床铺有一天要彻
底停掉EB,疮粉照样可以洗地。
【在 s*******i 的大作中提到】 : 如果是这样的话必然民主党会跳出来说这是歧视。 : 具体可以参考当初对几个高危国家签证禁令。 : 即使Trump真打算停掉ICC境外申请民主党也不会同意的。更别提出台法律了。
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s*****n 发帖数: 72 | 42 非常支持,某些别有用心的人还在不停的洗地,必须好好批判,以免让其在这里蒙蔽大
家。
:疮粉真牛b,这么明显对中国EB不利的政策都还能洗地。你懂什么叫歧视么?停掉ICC
不是针对某个种族,不是针对某个国家,不是针对某个宗教,不是针对某个性别,跟他
的穆斯林禁令相比根本算不上歧视。穆斯林禁令都能被床铺辩护成不是歧视,停掉ICC算
:个p啊。会有很多人跳出来反对停掉ICC,但不会用歧视这个理由。如果床铺有一天要
彻底停掉EB,疮粉照样可以洗地。 |
S*******u 发帖数: 727 | 43 要停掉ICC很容易,不让那些ICC 的人申请H1B就可以了,不让一人申请都多份H1B就是。
这些天天洗地的疮粉就等这被床铺给骂”你也配信赵“
ICC
ICC算
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】 : 非常支持,某些别有用心的人还在不停的洗地,必须好好批判,以免让其在这里蒙蔽大 : 家。 : : :疮粉真牛b,这么明显对中国EB不利的政策都还能洗地。你懂什么叫歧视么?停掉ICC : 不是针对某个种族,不是针对某个国家,不是针对某个宗教,不是针对某个性别,跟他 : 的穆斯林禁令相比根本算不上歧视。穆斯林禁令都能被床铺辩护成不是歧视,停掉ICC算 : :个p啊。会有很多人跳出来反对停掉ICC,但不会用歧视这个理由。如果床铺有一天要 : 彻底停掉EB,疮粉照样可以洗地。
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b****h 发帖数: 2105 | 44 真天真,深蓝就把eb当人看了?非法的和难民都忙不过来,几万eb当不了个零头。eb
are fucked up from both aisles.
personal
rigorous
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】 : If this really goes into action, better pray you are interviewing in an : immigrant friendly blue city. : This would be less like a citizenship interview with defined US and personal : history questions, but more like a visa interview. : In reality, how many EB1 are at Einstein level and not padded in someway? : And how many employment based EB2/3 sponsor did actually go through rigorous : job postings and interviewing citizens for the position? It will be too : much trouble for employer to sponsor that.
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e*******2 发帖数: 847 | 45 到现在还有人会选择红的。就算非法移民有肉吃,我只有有汤吃也甘愿。现在红的上来
,还没把非法移民怎么样了,棍棍都打在合法移民头上
: 真天真,深蓝就把eb当人看了?非法的和难民都忙不过来,几万eb当不了个零头
。eb
: are fucked up from both aisles.
: personal
: rigorous
【在 b****h 的大作中提到】 : 真天真,深蓝就把eb当人看了?非法的和难民都忙不过来,几万eb当不了个零头。eb : are fucked up from both aisles. : : personal : rigorous
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E*****7 发帖数: 48 | 46 运气怎么这么差 早点办绿卡就好了 拖拖拖 拖死自己 |
o*******2 发帖数: 229 | 47 仔细读了NBC和polotico网站上的文章,觉得USCIS的人也是困惑面试是否Offset the
effort。想知道USCIS具体会怎么处理面试, 想看到USCIS的官方的文章(10月就实施,
哪里找那么多人手,这个不太现实吧)。现在backlog这么久, 面试不加快效率不是雪
上添霜吗?唉, 真是人为刀俎。 |
b****h 发帖数: 2105 | 48 醒醒吧,还友好。亚细通过的都是深蓝。民主党和共和党要的是选票,合法移民在两者
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l****h 发帖数: 793 | 49 黄皮疮粉的一个特点是待在蓝州反AA,反亚裔细分,拼死拼活要挤进google这样的左臂
公司,还要娃挤哈佛这样的左臂学校,可是打死也不愿意去红州。
【在 b****h 的大作中提到】 : 醒醒吧,还友好。亚细通过的都是深蓝。民主党和共和党要的是选票,合法移民在两者 : 眼里就是屎
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y******g 发帖数: 257 | 50 我只关心一个问题,会不会影响每年的发卡数量。如果一开始pending个半年,但是一
年名额都能给完,我觉得对后来者问题还不大。 |
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x**8 发帖数: 1939 | 51 如果不面试就不能发卡,uscis人手又不足,不能按时完成面试,
那么发卡数量必然会不足,
Trump的目标已经明确说了:减少移民数量,
面试就是达到目的的手段,
【在 y******g 的大作中提到】 : 我只关心一个问题,会不会影响每年的发卡数量。如果一开始pending个半年,但是一 : 年名额都能给完,我觉得对后来者问题还不大。
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e*******r 发帖数: 281 | 52
一开始肯定挺大影响的。到时候来不及面试怎么会发卡。
看看现在485的pending时间多长,基本要等1年后再次current才可能可以绿,因为第一
次current根本不在process time里面。这下的process time更长了呗
等积累了一段时间的面试面好的backlog后又回恢复正常的处理时间的,但是那个时候
大家已经都多等了额外的时间了
【在 y******g 的大作中提到】 : 我只关心一个问题,会不会影响每年的发卡数量。如果一开始pending个半年,但是一 : 年名额都能给完,我觉得对后来者问题还不大。
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x**8 发帖数: 1939 | 53 细分vs被赶走,哪个危害大?
我现在想把华裔的疮粉都细分出来,
【在 b****h 的大作中提到】 : 醒醒吧,还友好。亚细通过的都是深蓝。民主党和共和党要的是选票,合法移民在两者 : 眼里就是屎
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e*******r 发帖数: 281 | 54
反AA和反细分与中国人住在什么州有关系吗?
要改变一个企业的风气,有什么比打入内部更好的了?如果google里面都是中国人他还
能反华不成?
打死不去红州是谁下的结论?如果真是这个样子,难道不是说明去红州对华人更不利?
难道这个是华人的不对?
【在 l****h 的大作中提到】 : 黄皮疮粉的一个特点是待在蓝州反AA,反亚裔细分,拼死拼活要挤进google这样的左臂 : 公司,还要娃挤哈佛这样的左臂学校,可是打死也不愿意去红州。
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x**8 发帖数: 1939 | 55 只有在蓝州,华人才有生存之地,
如果蓝州变成红州,华人的生存会受到威胁,
【在 e*******r 的大作中提到】 : : 反AA和反细分与中国人住在什么州有关系吗? : 要改变一个企业的风气,有什么比打入内部更好的了?如果google里面都是中国人他还 : 能反华不成? : 打死不去红州是谁下的结论?如果真是这个样子,难道不是说明去红州对华人更不利? : 难道这个是华人的不对?
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e*******r 发帖数: 281 | 56
有时候我很不能理解trump粉。。。估计他们都是绿卡或是公民了吧
【在 x**8 的大作中提到】 : 只有在蓝州,华人才有生存之地, : 如果蓝州变成红州,华人的生存会受到威胁,
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x***4 发帖数: 1815 | 57 生活中见到无数有卡的川粉:
选之前,都是大喊,trump是打击非移,鼓励合法移民的,还经常那精选时候的一句话
做文章。
选完之后,就开始说人太多了,不要挤了。
骗子!
【在 e*******r 的大作中提到】 : : 有时候我很不能理解trump粉。。。估计他们都是绿卡或是公民了吧
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e*******r 发帖数: 281 | 58
华人还是远远不够多啊,看看拉丁美洲过来的抱团抱的。
人多才有选票才被政客正视。华裔本来人就少还自己内斗,就算将来人更少,更是国内
的少数派,谁会帮助华人的利益?
【在 x***4 的大作中提到】 : 生活中见到无数有卡的川粉: : 选之前,都是大喊,trump是打击非移,鼓励合法移民的,还经常那精选时候的一句话 : 做文章。 : 选完之后,就开始说人太多了,不要挤了。 : 骗子!
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b****h 发帖数: 2105 | 59 说到点子上了。
版上这些极左极右的人都没看到华人自身的利益
选票才是王道
【在 e*******r 的大作中提到】 : : 华人还是远远不够多啊,看看拉丁美洲过来的抱团抱的。 : 人多才有选票才被政客正视。华裔本来人就少还自己内斗,就算将来人更少,更是国内 : 的少数派,谁会帮助华人的利益?
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x**8 发帖数: 1939 | 60 选票的数量足够多才是王道,
疮粉现在就叫嚣要断绝未来华人的新移民,这个就是华裔的败类,害群之马,
如果有人还试图美化这种观点,应该等同败类,
【在 b****h 的大作中提到】 : 说到点子上了。 : 版上这些极左极右的人都没看到华人自身的利益 : 选票才是王道
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w*********o 发帖数: 3030 | 61 Sorry, based on your posts in this thread, I highly doubt your definition of
华人自身的利益 is anywhere near the reality.
And there are apparent issues exhibited by your posts. On one hand, you seem
to think the community of Chinese American is too small, thus ignored. On
the other hand, you somehow bought into the snake oil that the
identification of smaller Asian group is specially designed to suppress
Chinese American.
Pick a side, are you ignored or targeted? You can't have both as excuses.
【在 b****h 的大作中提到】 : 说到点子上了。 : 版上这些极左极右的人都没看到华人自身的利益 : 选票才是王道
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p******6 发帖数: 147 | 62 华人人少所以利益被美国政客无视, 同时华人中的有些白痴希望后来的华人再少一点。
华人选票少, 但目前占的资源多, 所以利益被无视, 同时被针对性的压迫, 不是很
正常嘛
你要是还读不懂, 简单说, 就是你声音小所以好事没你份坏事你顶缸。 好事ignore
, 坏事target, 明白了吗?
: Sorry, based on your posts in this thread, I highly doubt your
definition of
: 华人自身的利益 is anywhere near the reality.
: And there are apparent issues exhibited by your posts. On one
hand,
you seem
: to think the community of Chinese American is too small, thus
ignored
. On
: the other hand, you somehow bought into the snake oil that the
: identification of smaller Asian group is specially designed to
suppress
: Chinese American.
: Pick a side, are you ignored or targeted? You can't have both as
excuses.
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】 : Sorry, based on your posts in this thread, I highly doubt your definition of : 华人自身的利益 is anywhere near the reality. : And there are apparent issues exhibited by your posts. On one hand, you seem : to think the community of Chinese American is too small, thus ignored. On : the other hand, you somehow bought into the snake oil that the : identification of smaller Asian group is specially designed to suppress : Chinese American. : Pick a side, are you ignored or targeted? You can't have both as excuses.
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w*********o 发帖数: 3030 | 63 Yeh yeh, the whole world is out to get you. If this kind of A Q thinking
would make your live your life easier, go ahead.
It most likely would fall on dead ears, but I will still say it once. None
of current US/state policy or proposed US/state policy is designed to
benefit or target Chinese Americans. Anyone tell you otherwise is either
selling you snake oil or unaware of their horse face. Any impact on Chinese
American community is or will be the byproduct of the polices. So far, the
only policy direct targeting Chinese American is the abolished Chinese
exclusion act.
There is no way to predict the impact of detailed data collection on
subgroup of asian americans. But the direct reason for other asian american
group to push for that is because they don't want to be associated with
Chinese Americans, especially Chinese from mainland China. You think you are
not loud enough to advance your interest? Maybe you should ask some asain
american to see how much they trust Chinese from mainland as a community.
Do you really think by protesting louder others would let you take a even
bigger share of the pie?
点。
ignore
【在 p******6 的大作中提到】 : 华人人少所以利益被美国政客无视, 同时华人中的有些白痴希望后来的华人再少一点。 : 华人选票少, 但目前占的资源多, 所以利益被无视, 同时被针对性的压迫, 不是很 : 正常嘛 : 你要是还读不懂, 简单说, 就是你声音小所以好事没你份坏事你顶缸。 好事ignore : , 坏事target, 明白了吗? : : : Sorry, based on your posts in this thread, I highly doubt your : definition of : : 华人自身的利益 is anywhere near the reality. : : And there are apparent issues exhibited by your posts. On one
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x***4 发帖数: 1815 | 64 真是明白人!
Chinese
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】 : Yeh yeh, the whole world is out to get you. If this kind of A Q thinking : would make your live your life easier, go ahead. : It most likely would fall on dead ears, but I will still say it once. None : of current US/state policy or proposed US/state policy is designed to : benefit or target Chinese Americans. Anyone tell you otherwise is either : selling you snake oil or unaware of their horse face. Any impact on Chinese : American community is or will be the byproduct of the polices. So far, the : only policy direct targeting Chinese American is the abolished Chinese : exclusion act. : There is no way to predict the impact of detailed data collection on
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b****h 发帖数: 2105 | 65 请问你是美国白宫任什么职位?
None
你凭什么保证?
你先说说亚细法案是不是有损华人利益。
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f*******1 发帖数: 12 | 66 he seems to dislike any sorts of immigrants, :) |
p******6 发帖数: 147 | 67 当你没有声音的时候,即便你是被误伤的,也没人care。
你不用抠target的字眼, 事实是, 你路过踩了狗尾巴会担心狗咬你一口, 但踩了蚂
蚁就无所谓了。 而且下次你看到一只蚂蚁占了一张好野餐桌, 会顺手把它拂去。
是的, eb移民是误伤, 但细分呢?
: Yeh yeh, the whole world is out to get you. If this kind of A Q
thinking
: would make your live your life easier, go ahead.
: It most likely would fall on dead ears, but I will still say it once.
None
: of current US/state policy or proposed US/state policy is designed to
: benefit or target Chinese Americans. Anyone tell you otherwise is
either
: selling you snake oil or unaware of their horse face. Any impact on
Chinese
: American community is or will be the byproduct of the polices. So far,
the
: only policy direct targeting Chinese American is the abolished Chinese
: exclusion act.
: There is no way to predict the impact of detailed data collection on
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】 : Yeh yeh, the whole world is out to get you. If this kind of A Q thinking : would make your live your life easier, go ahead. : It most likely would fall on dead ears, but I will still say it once. None : of current US/state policy or proposed US/state policy is designed to : benefit or target Chinese Americans. Anyone tell you otherwise is either : selling you snake oil or unaware of their horse face. Any impact on Chinese : American community is or will be the byproduct of the polices. So far, the : only policy direct targeting Chinese American is the abolished Chinese : exclusion act. : There is no way to predict the impact of detailed data collection on
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p******6 发帖数: 147 | 68 最后, 不是我觉得怎样, 美国这地方就是声音大的分到的多。。
: Yeh yeh, the whole world is out to get you. If this kind of A Q
thinking
: would make your live your life easier, go ahead.
: It most likely would fall on dead ears, but I will still say it once.
None
: of current US/state policy or proposed US/state policy is designed to
: benefit or target Chinese Americans. Anyone tell you otherwise is
either
: selling you snake oil or unaware of their horse face. Any impact on
Chinese
: American community is or will be the byproduct of the polices. So far,
the
: only policy direct targeting Chinese American is the abolished Chinese
: exclusion act.
: There is no way to predict the impact of detailed data collection on
【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】 : Yeh yeh, the whole world is out to get you. If this kind of A Q thinking : would make your live your life easier, go ahead. : It most likely would fall on dead ears, but I will still say it once. None : of current US/state policy or proposed US/state policy is designed to : benefit or target Chinese Americans. Anyone tell you otherwise is either : selling you snake oil or unaware of their horse face. Any impact on Chinese : American community is or will be the byproduct of the polices. So far, the : only policy direct targeting Chinese American is the abolished Chinese : exclusion act. : There is no way to predict the impact of detailed data collection on
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e*******r 发帖数: 281 | 69
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to
I agree. This is fact.
【在 p******6 的大作中提到】 : 最后, 不是我觉得怎样, 美国这地方就是声音大的分到的多。。 : : : Yeh yeh, the whole world is out to get you. If this kind of A Q : thinking : : would make your live your life easier, go ahead. : : It most likely would fall on dead ears, but I will still say it once. : None : : of current US/state policy or proposed US/state policy is designed to : : benefit or target Chinese Americans. Anyone tell you otherwise is : either
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