s**********n 发帖数: 72 | 1 是不是用了ap就不再是h1b身份了?
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f*****s 发帖数: 219 | 3 又来伸手党了
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【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】 : 是不是用了ap就不再是h1b身份了? : 这样有什么风险么?
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f*****s 发帖数: 219 | 4 有AOS不就行了
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【在 b*********r 的大作中提到】 : lp没有H4了
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s**********n 发帖数: 72 | 6 Hi guys, any input would be appreciated.
I spoke to my lawyer and I asked him about the significance of applying for
EAD along with my H1 extension which is coming up in a few months. I asked
him why is it important to also have EAD on hand along with H1, I mean what
is the point of it, since I have work auth for 3 years under h1 anyways, so
why waste money on EAD.
Well in his response, aisde from his answer to my question, some thing every
strange and bizarre came out at least for me, and that is that if you enter
the usa showing the AP Papers at port of entry and not your h1b visa stamp,
that means you are no longer under H1B status and there MUST HAVE EAD TO
WORK IN THE USA AT ALL TIME until you re-invoke your H1B either by
reentering USA on H1B stamped visa on your passport or to apply for
extension which will automatically put you back in H1B Status.
He said that AP is a "Ghost status" as understood by the attorney general
that allows you to stay in the usa under extraordinary circumstances and
must be treated like it own visa type.
The upsetting thing is that if this is true, it puts me out of status
despite the fact that my H1B is still active and doesn’t expire till sep 30
09, as my ead, which I never used or cared for since I only worked for my
sponsoring employee, expired 6 months ago and I never felt a need to renew
it as I had no use for it.
any one came across this and think if it might affedt my pending i-485?
http://www.trackitt.com/usa-discussion-forums/i485-eb/338054051 |
s**********n 发帖数: 72 | 7 http://www.trackitt.com/usa-discussion-forums/i485-eb/338054051
fuck, 有ap还不如没有。规则这么复杂,h1b多简单
Let me tell you about my case. I had H1B, I travel a whole lot to Canada, so
I use to come back on AP, everything went fine. Now I got H1 extended, did
not get it stamped but if you visit Canada within 30 days, you can enter US
back without visa its called AVR. Now AVR is also applicable for AP, that
means within 30 days if you are coming back, they will not reprocess that 1
hour of AP processing that they do. My AP was just expiring in 2 days, but I
had the new H1B extension, and actually I went to Canada so that they will
put this new I-94 of H1 on my passport. But to my surprise, the IO were just
not ready to do, they said H1B petition has been approved in error. I
insisted that it's not and this new H1B I-94 should be used. It took 8
officers to come to one conclusion and that is once AP parolee status I-94
is given, they will not change to H1B status, and if they do, my GC will be
abandoned. Anyways, I was told if I had come just 2 days after, I would not
have been allowed to enter US. I sighed relief, and said put what ever you
want, just let me in.
I came back, m wife driving license was expiring , so we went to DMV to to
get it in Michigan. To our surprise, we can not get license as our I-94 says
Parolee and it is a temporary status. It's really a nightmare situation.
Her license has expired and is past 2 months and she can not drive as the
system is screwed.
Bottom line is that it is better to be safe than sorry. These things are all
in Grey area, I had checked some answers of Murthy lawyer where she said
that you can go out on AP and continue to work on H1B, although she did
mention that it comes in Grey area, and that was why I was doing so much
travel to Canada as my in-laws live there. But seems like that Grey area got
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a****r 发帖数: 4965 | 8 请看看这篇文章,你就明白了。
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/EB23/32255909_3.html
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】 : 是不是用了ap就不再是h1b身份了? : 这样有什么风险么?
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o******t 发帖数: 1994 | 9 既然觉得这么复杂你就别用了。我知道有人觉得H1B签证比AP省事,不奇怪人们有各种
想法,既然如此就别花钱申请AP还有EAD,胆小的最好别用这些福利了,因为后果不堪
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m********1 发帖数: 681 | 10 Why do you bother to apply GC? Leave it for people in need.
Just use your h1b forever. Reapply it every 3 years, and you definitely can
travel with h1b for sure. Very simple for idiots.
fuck, 有ap还不如没有。规则这么复杂,h1b多简单
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】 : http://www.trackitt.com/usa-discussion-forums/i485-eb/338054051 : fuck, 有ap还不如没有。规则这么复杂,h1b多简单 : Let me tell you about my case. I had H1B, I travel a whole lot to Canada, so : I use to come back on AP, everything went fine. Now I got H1 extended, did : not get it stamped but if you visit Canada within 30 days, you can enter US : back without visa its called AVR. Now AVR is also applicable for AP, that : means within 30 days if you are coming back, they will not reprocess that 1 : hour of AP processing that they do. My AP was just expiring in 2 days, but I : had the new H1B extension, and actually I went to Canada so that they will : put this new I-94 of H1 on my passport. But to my surprise, the IO were just
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f*****s 发帖数: 219 | 11 大赞
can
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【在 m********1 的大作中提到】 : Why do you bother to apply GC? Leave it for people in need. : Just use your h1b forever. Reapply it every 3 years, and you definitely can : travel with h1b for sure. Very simple for idiots. : : fuck, 有ap还不如没有。规则这么复杂,h1b多简单
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s**********n 发帖数: 72 | 14 我他妈要创业开公司
can
【在 m********1 的大作中提到】 : Why do you bother to apply GC? Leave it for people in need. : Just use your h1b forever. Reapply it every 3 years, and you definitely can : travel with h1b for sure. Very simple for idiots. : : fuck, 有ap还不如没有。规则这么复杂,h1b多简单
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s**********n 发帖数: 72 | 15 不是不敢用,是跳槽和离境之间是否矛盾的问题。
比如如果我用ap入境之后立刻跳槽,我就没法transfer h1b。
这些事研究清楚有什么不好呢?
而且我离境也不是返回中国,办h1b对我来说很麻
【在 o******t 的大作中提到】 : 既然觉得这么复杂你就别用了。我知道有人觉得H1B签证比AP省事,不奇怪人们有各种 : 想法,既然如此就别花钱申请AP还有EAD,胆小的最好别用这些福利了,因为后果不堪 : 设想。
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s**********n 发帖数: 72 | 16 不是不敢用,是要研究好跳槽和用ap入境之间是不是有矛盾。
比如先用ap入境之后立刻跳槽,就没法做h1b transfer
我离境不是要返回中国,办h1b对我来说很麻烦
我当然想用ap。但是前提是不能影响h1b transfer
【在 o******t 的大作中提到】 : 既然觉得这么复杂你就别用了。我知道有人觉得H1B签证比AP省事,不奇怪人们有各种 : 想法,既然如此就别花钱申请AP还有EAD,胆小的最好别用这些福利了,因为后果不堪 : 设想。
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F*********u 发帖数: 12190 | 17 哪里说ap入境不能transfer h1b了
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】 : 不是不敢用,是跳槽和离境之间是否矛盾的问题。 : 比如如果我用ap入境之后立刻跳槽,我就没法transfer h1b。 : 这些事研究清楚有什么不好呢? : 而且我离境也不是返回中国,办h1b对我来说很麻
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k**i 发帖数: 10191 | 18 我觉得你还是不要用AP。这个版里面有些人太自以为是,他们认为对的,他们觉得所有
人都会同意,包括边境移民官。你找的其他人的倒霉例子已经很明确的说明,别冒险用
AP。AP很多老美不懂,会带来很多不便。包括上面的例子,居然不能延期驾照。虽然是
比较极端的例子。
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】 : 不是不敢用,是要研究好跳槽和用ap入境之间是不是有矛盾。 : 比如先用ap入境之后立刻跳槽,就没法做h1b transfer : 我离境不是要返回中国,办h1b对我来说很麻烦 : 我当然想用ap。但是前提是不能影响h1b transfer
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m********1 发帖数: 681 | 19 祝好运。
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】 : 我他妈要创业开公司 : : can
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F*********u 发帖数: 12190 | 20 你不敢用别人也不会劝你,但是请不要散播这种用AP就是冒险的谣言
你指出其中的风险可以让其他人自己判断
【在 k**i 的大作中提到】 : 我觉得你还是不要用AP。这个版里面有些人太自以为是,他们认为对的,他们觉得所有 : 人都会同意,包括边境移民官。你找的其他人的倒霉例子已经很明确的说明,别冒险用 : AP。AP很多老美不懂,会带来很多不便。包括上面的例子,居然不能延期驾照。虽然是 : 比较极端的例子。
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k**i 发帖数: 10191 | 21 我散播啥谣言了,这不明明白白的例子,用了AP给生活带来不便利,有实际例子,就不
是谣言。普普通通的“冒险”两字怎么着你了。。。。
【在 F*********u 的大作中提到】 : 你不敢用别人也不会劝你,但是请不要散播这种用AP就是冒险的谣言 : 你指出其中的风险可以让其他人自己判断
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k**i 发帖数: 10191 | 22 其实那倒霉烙印有一句话总结的很不错:Bottom line is that it is better to be
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F*********u 发帖数: 12190 | 23 "用AP就是冒险"
看不懂中文就多读几遍
【在 k**i 的大作中提到】 : 我散播啥谣言了,这不明明白白的例子,用了AP给生活带来不便利,有实际例子,就不 : 是谣言。普普通通的“冒险”两字怎么着你了。。。。
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m********1 发帖数: 681 | 24 别争了。
堂堂正正交485的,ead/ap拿的安心,用的放心。
偷偷摸摸交485的,包括什么pw没到阿,180天之内跳槽的阿,背着公司交表的阿,申请
过程中弄虚作假的阿,那还是别用ead/ap,当心惨死。
【在 F*********u 的大作中提到】 : "用AP就是冒险" : 看不懂中文就多读几遍
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c****n 发帖数: 1630 | 25 这里最自以为是的大概就是您了。
这里老ID给的建议都是经过长时间讨论考证积累下来的。
你可以选择不听,是你的自由,别给别人出馊主意就好。
【在 k**i 的大作中提到】 : 我觉得你还是不要用AP。这个版里面有些人太自以为是,他们认为对的,他们觉得所有 : 人都会同意,包括边境移民官。你找的其他人的倒霉例子已经很明确的说明,别冒险用 : AP。AP很多老美不懂,会带来很多不便。包括上面的例子,居然不能延期驾照。虽然是 : 比较极端的例子。
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f*******n 发帖数: 12623 | 26
for
what
so
EAD and AP are free. So no "waste money".
every
enter
stamp,
Wrong. You are not in H1b status but you can continue to work for the H1b
employer you were working for, without needing EAD.
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So? Why does it matter whether you are out of status? You don't need to be
in status.
It doesn't affect your I-485.
有AP不等于你要用AP。有多个选择当然比没有选择好。不需要不用用;没有害处。但是
需要的时候就可以用。
be
This is wrong. Changing to H1b status will not affect your AOS.
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】 : Hi guys, any input would be appreciated. : I spoke to my lawyer and I asked him about the significance of applying for : EAD along with my H1 extension which is coming up in a few months. I asked : him why is it important to also have EAD on hand along with H1, I mean what : is the point of it, since I have work auth for 3 years under h1 anyways, so : why waste money on EAD. : Well in his response, aisde from his answer to my question, some thing every : strange and bizarre came out at least for me, and that is that if you enter : the usa showing the AP Papers at port of entry and not your h1b visa stamp, : that means you are no longer under H1B status and there MUST HAVE EAD TO
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s*****t 发帖数: 537 | 27 我律师回信“As long as your H-1B is still valid and you possess a valid AP
on your date of departure and return, then you should have no issue
reentering and you will retain your H-1B status even if you travel with the
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p*******p 发帖数: 70 | 28 这也是和我的律师说的一样, F家
the
【在 s*****t 的大作中提到】 : 我律师回信“As long as your H-1B is still valid and you possess a valid AP : on your date of departure and return, then you should have no issue : reentering and you will retain your H-1B status even if you travel with the : AP.”
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P*********l 发帖数: 95 | 29 帖子里烙印的例子已经是7,8年前的了,那时候可能case比较少,所以很多美国人不懂。
现在这样的例子越来越多,本版上亲身经历的都多少人了,还有什么可疑问的。大胆用把
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z******y 发帖数: 969 | 30 什么叫自以为是? 你这种才是吧。 版花,版主,还有一堆人AP经验贴都没问题。 要
说倒霉,你绿卡后也有倒霉的人绿卡被收回来。 公民对你才是保险的是吧?
【在 k**i 的大作中提到】 : 我觉得你还是不要用AP。这个版里面有些人太自以为是,他们认为对的,他们觉得所有 : 人都会同意,包括边境移民官。你找的其他人的倒霉例子已经很明确的说明,别冒险用 : AP。AP很多老美不懂,会带来很多不便。包括上面的例子,居然不能延期驾照。虽然是 : 比较极端的例子。
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c*w 发帖数: 65 | 31 公民也不保险。
书读多了患得患失是eb23c的通病,什么身份都没用,只有上帝发的赎罪券有疗效。
【在 z******y 的大作中提到】 : 什么叫自以为是? 你这种才是吧。 版花,版主,还有一堆人AP经验贴都没问题。 要 : 说倒霉,你绿卡后也有倒霉的人绿卡被收回来。 公民对你才是保险的是吧?
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h*******r 发帖数: 196 | 32 用AP 最大的好处就是不用回国再去面签。过程很折磨人 。(邮寄需要时间长,不能保
证回美国之前肯定能拿到)
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】 : 是不是用了ap就不再是h1b身份了? : 这样有什么风险么?
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f*****s 发帖数: 219 | 33 哪来的疯狗,有病吧。。。。。。。
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】 : 我他妈要创业开公司 : : can
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c******3 发帖数: 6509 | 34 其实AP只是后备的,能不用最好不用。
即使用了也没事,回来花钱重新转回H1身份就稳妥了,主要是可以节省申请visa的时间。 |
o******t 发帖数: 1994 | 35 每天都要活在绝对稳妥中累不累。最好也别开车了, 因为车祸每天都有, 也别出门了
因为出门就会有各种意外。我用AP 不少次,连中国海关人员都明白的东西,确实不明
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c******3 发帖数: 6509 | 36 一旦出现意外,无非是交学费,所以看个人选择了
对我来说,我申请H1很省事,而且我名下一堆H1B,出问题概率很大,所以即使以后有
AP我也是尽量不用,丢失H1B后要一个个找回来,比申请visa麻烦多了
【在 o******t 的大作中提到】 : 每天都要活在绝对稳妥中累不累。最好也别开车了, 因为车祸每天都有, 也别出门了 : 因为出门就会有各种意外。我用AP 不少次,连中国海关人员都明白的东西,确实不明 : 白放着AP不用, 死活要签证的。
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l*******r 发帖数: 713 | 37 为啥一堆H1B出问题概率大?
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【在 c******3 的大作中提到】 : 一旦出现意外,无非是交学费,所以看个人选择了 : 对我来说,我申请H1很省事,而且我名下一堆H1B,出问题概率很大,所以即使以后有 : AP我也是尽量不用,丢失H1B后要一个个找回来,比申请visa麻烦多了
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z******y 发帖数: 969 | 38 原来你还没有AP啊? 在这里空谈了这么久。 我也希望你不要用。
反正我用, 不用白不用。
【在 c******3 的大作中提到】 : 一旦出现意外,无非是交学费,所以看个人选择了 : 对我来说,我申请H1很省事,而且我名下一堆H1B,出问题概率很大,所以即使以后有 : AP我也是尽量不用,丢失H1B后要一个个找回来,比申请visa麻烦多了
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z****d 发帖数: 1761 | 39 H1B VISA是大使馆DOS给的,你就算有那个797很多年,没有出去回来过,护照上没有盖
过章,都不能算有过H1B VISA. 用AP回来不会导致你797失效,你一样可以根据797的有
效期为原来雇主工作。VISA这个东西只跟dos有关,移民局审核的时候只关心你进来美
国待到现在是合法的,工作跟申报的时候是真实的。即使真有风险,你回来以后如果工
作没变你关心是用EAD还是797不是闲的蛋疼么,如果你换工作,那跟AP也没啥关系啊,
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a****r 发帖数: 4965 | 40 有人用AP完全没有问题,有人用了AP就出问题了,所以用AP还是H1B Visa要根据自身情
况来决定。
如果自己搞不清楚,用H1B Visa最保险。但是确定用AP没风险的,可以放心用AP。
另外提醒一下,用AP入境有可能要进CBP的"小黑屋",碰上人多的时候要等一两个小
时,还可能耽误转机(同事在加州入境的经历,带着小孩子在机场多呆了一个晚上)。
【在 z****d 的大作中提到】 : H1B VISA是大使馆DOS给的,你就算有那个797很多年,没有出去回来过,护照上没有盖 : 过章,都不能算有过H1B VISA. 用AP回来不会导致你797失效,你一样可以根据797的有 : 效期为原来雇主工作。VISA这个东西只跟dos有关,移民局审核的时候只关心你进来美 : 国待到现在是合法的,工作跟申报的时候是真实的。即使真有风险,你回来以后如果工 : 作没变你关心是用EAD还是797不是闲的蛋疼么,如果你换工作,那跟AP也没啥关系啊, : 更不用担心用不用AP的事情了。这是我的理解。所以我搞不懂为什么不用
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v*****1 发帖数: 2200 | 41 和妈妈合伙做生意?
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】 : 我他妈要创业开公司 : : can
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