v***g
发帖数: 126 | 1 Boehner:I'm confident that we'll have a solid work product that we can go to
conference with the Se
The House is going to work its will on immigration. We're not going to be
stampeded by the White House,” House Speaker John Boehner (R) of Ohio told
reporters Thursday. “The House will work its will. Don't ask me how because
if I knew I'd certainly tell you, but ... I'm confident that we'll have a
solid work product that we can go to conference with the Senate.”
The House Republican conference, long viewed as a forbidding force on
immigration reform, is now signaling that it wants to pass a bill and then
hammer out its differences with the Senate.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2013/0523/Immigration-ref
Immigration reform is stuck in House, but 'gang' is resolute
Bipartisan group of House lawmakers depart the capital for recess without
clinching a deal on immigration reform, missing their self-imposed deadline.
But members insist they aren't giving up.
By David Grant, Staff writer / May 23, 2013
Members of the House Judiciary Committee listen to testimony on Capitol Hill
in Washington, Wednesday, during a hearing on immigration reform. Though
House lawmakers left Washington for the Memorial Day recess without a final
resolution, the Gang of Eight didn’t shatter.
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Bipartisan immigration reformers in the House haven’t yet managed to clinch
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final, vexing issue: how exactly the 11 million undocumented people living
in the US would be treated under the nation’s health-care system.
Though House lawmakers left Washington for the Memorial Day recess without a
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“I've been fighting for immigrants for years,” said Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D
) of Illinois, a sponsor of the 2007 bipartisan immigration reform bill and
a current House negotiator, in a statement on Thursday. “We've won battles,
we've lost battles. I can tell you today that we are making progress. We'll
get there.”
Over in the Senate, the march to immigration reform has gone largely
according to plan – a bipartisan gang of senators hatched a bill that is
slated for a floor vote in June. Meanwhile, the House bipartisan group
thought to be vital the process of passing immigration reform appears to be
stuck in mud just inches from the finish line.
The House Republican conference, long viewed as a forbidding force on
immigration reform, is now signaling that it wants to pass a bill and then
hammer out its differences with the Senate.
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“The House is going to work its will on immigration. We're not going to be
stampeded by the White House,” House Speaker John Boehner (R) of Ohio told
reporters Thursday. “The House will work its will. Don't ask me how because
if I knew I'd certainly tell you, but ... I'm confident that we'll have a
solid work product that we can go to conference with the Senate.”
The Republican urge to get to yes on immigration was on display Thursday.
The entire House GOP leadership, in a rare joint statement, announced it
would work toward passing an immigration fix.
Earlier Thursday, Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R) of Virginia, whose
committee is primarily responsible for immigration legislation, and Rep.
Darrell Issa (R) of California unveiled legislation aimed at attracting more
high-skilled workers to the US. Theirs is the fourth immigration bill
offered by the House GOP to date.
Goodlatte was quick to note that the legislation, while differing from the
Senate bill in several ways, is far from settled.
“Nothing in this entire immigration process should be viewed as written in
stone. We’re looking for good ideas,” Representative Goodlatte says. “All
the individual bills we’ve introduced are certainly subject to improvement
.”
While the Senate has put forward a single comprehensive package, House
Republicans have so far offered individual measures on agricultural workers,
border security, and workplace enforcement of immigration rules, and a bill
on interior enforcement of immigration laws is forthcoming.
But those aren’t take-it-or-leave-it offers, to the rest of the House or to
the Senate.
“This is, in a sense, a pilot for a directional change for the number of
people who are welcome to stay rather than welcome to leave,” says
Representative Issa.
Eventually, however, the time of looking for good ideas will be over and the
time to pass bills will begin.
What will be different with immigration reform this time, Issa said, is that
lawmakers are beginning to realize that, however they feel about the shape
of an immigration bill, the House must pass legislation in order to get into
a true final negotiation.
“We’ve had 12 years of not getting to conference [with the Senate],” Issa
says. “We’ve had 12 years of not passing bills out of the House.”
That, he suggests, is long enough. | w***a
发帖数: 4361 | 2 boehner这又是在扇谁的耳光？ 米老师
to
told
because
【在 v***g 的大作中提到】
: Boehner:I'm confident that we'll have a solid work product that we can go to
: conference with the Se
: The House is going to work its will on immigration. We're not going to be
: stampeded by the White House,” House Speaker John Boehner (R) of Ohio told
: reporters Thursday. “The House will work its will. Don't ask me how because
: if I knew I'd certainly tell you, but ... I'm confident that we'll have a
: solid work product that we can go to conference with the Senate.”
: The House Republican conference, long viewed as a forbidding force on
: immigration reform, is now signaling that it wants to pass a bill and then
: hammer out its differences with the Senate.
| m******k
发帖数: 447 | 3 这也可以看作是两院之间博弈的一种表现形式，有时候这无关党派鸿沟，而是下院议长
和议员们要刷“存在感”的一种表现。哪怕两院之间分歧其实不大，众院也非得另搞一
套，以示自己不是别人口中的lower chamber。 | s********c
发帖数: 367 | 4 读了原文，感觉双方还是都有回旋余地的，
不知道是官方报道的辞令，还是真的有口 | w***a
发帖数: 4361 | 5 是啊，可是这么明白的道理，
到了meask之流那里就变成抽总统和参议院大嘴巴子了。
【在 m******k 的大作中提到】
: 这也可以看作是两院之间博弈的一种表现形式，有时候这无关党派鸿沟，而是下院议长
: 和议员们要刷“存在感”的一种表现。哪怕两院之间分歧其实不大，众院也非得另搞一
: 套，以示自己不是别人口中的lower chamber。
| b******g
发帖数: 477 | 6 这可能他娘的还真被abcdefghigkl说中了。abcdefghigkl是我见过说话最犀利的了，不
骂一个脏字，但是让米老师很头疼。而且似乎看问题很准，只是可怜的abcdefghigkl被
闪电般毫无预感的就封了，哈。 | m******k
发帖数: 447 | 7 有个用语bicameral tension就是指这种扯皮。参议员需要讨好整整一个州，考虑中间
选民较多，所以上院里那种两面光的老油条占主流；而众议员只需讨好自己一个选区几
十万人，国会选区还可以靠自己州议会里同党的帮忙来按党派需要重划，所以下院里常
见两党的死硬派。由于极左极右都反对给非法移民合法化，移民改革在下院的难度确实
大些。好在下院没有拉布程序，简单多数就够了
【在 w***a 的大作中提到】
: 是啊，可是这么明白的道理，
: 到了meask之流那里就变成抽总统和参议院大嘴巴子了。
| m***k
发帖数: 946 | 8 累不累啊，confident在政客嘴里就跟屁一样，没任何分量。
你是被议长抽晕了么？抄来这么一堆blah blah的没用的废话
to
【在 v***g 的大作中提到】
: Boehner:I'm confident that we'll have a solid work product that we can go to
: conference with the Se
: The House is going to work its will on immigration. We're not going to be
: stampeded by the White House,” House Speaker John Boehner (R) of Ohio told
: reporters Thursday. “The House will work its will. Don't ask me how because
: if I knew I'd certainly tell you, but ... I'm confident that we'll have a
: solid work product that we can go to conference with the Senate.”
: The House Republican conference, long viewed as a forbidding force on
: immigration reform, is now signaling that it wants to pass a bill and then
: hammer out its differences with the Senate.
| e****s
发帖数: 1125 | 9 博纳的今天发言，对CIR，总体是个好消息。
这是第一次House的GOP头头们公开表示House会有自己的CIR Bill出来，而且不是博纳
个人，是一众的头头。CIR是非常有争论的法案，需要耐心。以前，很多人希望博纳直
接拿参院的法案上Floor，这当然是最好的结果，但明显GOP不会让事情太容易的。
更重要的在于GOP表达了强烈的解决这个问题的意愿，他们不会拖。只要双方都愿意谈
就有机会。
法案没出来，但根据透露的消息，Pathway to citizenship是没有问题的，13年15年，
没本质区别。边界问题是另一个核心，估计是战斗重点。
起码大家现在知道法案的命运是怎样了，参院+众院+Conference。 |
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