w********n
发帖数: 70 | 1 一句最简单的法律条文，二十多个回贴没一个人看懂。
这句话是说，满足了'sustained international reputation AND with a PhD degree'
可以不受名额限制，有这么难理解吗？这么简单一句话都看不懂，还申请EB1A，小心被
移民局笑死。
此外，EB1A从来就不要求美国PHD，只不过以前有名额限制，现在PHD不受名额限制而已
。没有PHD的人也可以申请EB1A，但是受名额限制。鉴于现在的EB1根本没排期，这句话
有没有都没啥大影响。 |
l**7
发帖数: 3940 | 2 你说话的指代范围应该只是某些假博士吧，拜托大多数劳苦大众是无辜的
degree'
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】
: 一句最简单的法律条文，二十多个回贴没一个人看懂。
: 这句话是说，满足了'sustained international reputation AND with a PhD degree'
: 可以不受名额限制，有这么难理解吗？这么简单一句话都看不懂，还申请EB1A，小心被
: 移民局笑死。
: 此外，EB1A从来就不要求美国PHD，只不过以前有名额限制，现在PHD不受名额限制而已
: 。没有PHD的人也可以申请EB1A，但是受名额限制。鉴于现在的EB1根本没排期，这句话
: 有没有都没啥大影响。
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f**u
发帖数: 2769 | 3 好像你也没看懂。
degree'
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】
: 一句最简单的法律条文，二十多个回贴没一个人看懂。
: 这句话是说，满足了'sustained international reputation AND with a PhD degree'
: 可以不受名额限制，有这么难理解吗？这么简单一句话都看不懂，还申请EB1A，小心被
: 移民局笑死。
: 此外，EB1A从来就不要求美国PHD，只不过以前有名额限制，现在PHD不受名额限制而已
: 。没有PHD的人也可以申请EB1A，但是受名额限制。鉴于现在的EB1根本没排期，这句话
: 有没有都没啥大影响。
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u*******r
发帖数: 2855 | 4 I think lawyers are in a better position to explain these terms
【在 f**u 的大作中提到】
: 好像你也没看懂。
:
: degree'
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s*******e
发帖数: 3042 | 5
【在 f**u 的大作中提到】
: 好像你也没看懂。
:
: degree'
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C**********i
发帖数: 694 | 6 先借个地方打出来201(b)(1) U.S.C. 12 1151(b)(1) 俺慢慢读读
(b) Aliens not subject to direct numerical limitations
Aliens described in this subsection, who are not subject to the worldwide
levels or numerical limitations of subsection (a) of this section, are as
follows:
(1)
(A) Special immigrants described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of section 1101
(a)(27) of this title.
(B) Aliens who are admitted under section 1157 of this title or whose status
is adjusted under section 1159 of this title.
(C) Aliens whose status is adjusted to permanent residence under section
1160 or 1255a of this title.
(D) Aliens whose removal is canceled under section 1229b (a) of this title.
(E) Aliens provided permanent resident status under section 1259 of this
title.
外加新的
‘‘(F) Derivative beneficiaries as described in section 203(d) of
employment-based immigrants under section 203(b).
‘‘(G) Aliens with extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education,
business, or athletics which has been demonstrated by sustained national or
international acclaim, if, with respect to any such alien—
‘‘(H) Aliens who are outstanding professors and researchers if, with
respect to any such alien—
‘‘(I) Aliens who are multinational executives and managers if, with
respect to any such alien—
‘‘(J) Aliens who have earned a doctorate degree.
‘‘(K) Alien physicians who have completed the foreign residency
requirements under section 212(e) or obtained a waiver of these requirements
or an exemption requested by an interested State agency or by an interested
Federal agency under section 214(l), including those alien physicians who
completed such service before the date of the enactment of the Border
Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act.’’ |
b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | |
a****a
发帖数: 3905 | 8 eb1a本来就不占了。
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: 你的理解是对的。是eb1a加博士学位不占名额。
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l**7
发帖数: 3940 | 9 您今天不天上掉馅饼直接拿绿卡了？可惜啊
【在 a****a 的大作中提到】
: eb1a本来就不占了。
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a***l
发帖数: 248 | 10 Dude, read carefully. This question "只要有PHD就可以？？" was from somebody
else. I replied to this question that basically it means no limit for
employment based immigrants with PhD degree.
degree'
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】
: 一句最简单的法律条文，二十多个回贴没一个人看懂。
: 这句话是说，满足了'sustained international reputation AND with a PhD degree'
: 可以不受名额限制，有这么难理解吗？这么简单一句话都看不懂，还申请EB1A，小心被
: 移民局笑死。
: 此外，EB1A从来就不要求美国PHD，只不过以前有名额限制，现在PHD不受名额限制而已
: 。没有PHD的人也可以申请EB1A，但是受名额限制。鉴于现在的EB1根本没排期，这句话
: 有没有都没啥大影响。
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 11 只适用eb1吧
somebody
【在 a***l 的大作中提到】
: Dude, read carefully. This question "只要有PHD就可以？？" was from somebody
: else. I replied to this question that basically it means no limit for
: employment based immigrants with PhD degree.
:
: degree'
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a***l
发帖数: 248 | 12 EB1 does not have a requirement for PhD degree. However, it requires
evidence of extraordinary ability demonstrated by sustained national or
international acclaims.
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: 只适用eb1吧
:
: somebody
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 13 我的意思eb2 phd还是受名额限制的
【在 a***l 的大作中提到】
: EB1 does not have a requirement for PhD degree. However, it requires
: evidence of extraordinary ability demonstrated by sustained national or
: international acclaims.
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f**u
发帖数: 2769 | 14 你错了
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: 我的意思eb2 phd还是受名额限制的
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a***l
发帖数: 248 | 15 Agree. 40%
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: 我的意思eb2 phd还是受名额限制的
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f***i
发帖数: 185 | 16 where is the "AND" he/she mentioned?
1101
status
【在 C**********i 的大作中提到】
: 先借个地方打出来201(b)(1) U.S.C. 12 1151(b)(1) 俺慢慢读读
: (b) Aliens not subject to direct numerical limitations
: Aliens described in this subsection, who are not subject to the worldwide
: levels or numerical limitations of subsection (a) of this section, are as
: follows:
: (1)
: (A) Special immigrants described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of section 1101
: (a)(27) of this title.
: (B) Aliens who are admitted under section 1157 of this title or whose status
: is adjusted under section 1159 of this title.
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C********r
发帖数: 256 | 17 my understanding:
Section 201(b)(1) is about "Aliens Not Subject to Direct Numerical
Limitations."
it is not about who qualify EB1 or EB2 etc.
By adding (J) to it, means PHD not subject to numerical limitations, it
doesn't means you automatically qualify EB1, but no numerical limitation.
Thus, you may be a PHD, you still need to apply EB2 or EB3 (PERM, 140 etc),
but no numerical limitations apply to you. |
l**7
发帖数: 3940 | 18 像你这样看清事实的人在这个版会被某些假大博士们用唾沫星子淹死的
,
【在 C********r 的大作中提到】
: my understanding:
: Section 201(b)(1) is about "Aliens Not Subject to Direct Numerical
: Limitations."
: it is not about who qualify EB1 or EB2 etc.
: By adding (J) to it, means PHD not subject to numerical limitations, it
: doesn't means you automatically qualify EB1, but no numerical limitation.
: Thus, you may be a PHD, you still need to apply EB2 or EB3 (PERM, 140 etc),
: but no numerical limitations apply to you.
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 19 if with respect to such alien --
【在 f***i 的大作中提到】
: where is the "AND" he/she mentioned?
:
: 1101
: status
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f***i
发帖数: 185 | 20 good, but here is another explanation
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/EB23/31882471_0.html
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: if with respect to such alien --
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k*****o
发帖数: 1972 | 21 no numerical limitations 意味着要等多久？
,
【在 C********r 的大作中提到】
: my understanding:
: Section 201(b)(1) is about "Aliens Not Subject to Direct Numerical
: Limitations."
: it is not about who qualify EB1 or EB2 etc.
: By adding (J) to it, means PHD not subject to numerical limitations, it
: doesn't means you automatically qualify EB1, but no numerical limitation.
: Thus, you may be a PHD, you still need to apply EB2 or EB3 (PERM, 140 etc),
: but no numerical limitations apply to you.
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a****a
发帖数: 3905 | 22 page 303. 不但现在的eb1不占名额，好像advanced degree in a stem field的EB2申
请也不占。
修改后是：
Other than aliens described in paragraph (1) or (2)(B)， aliens subject to
the worldwide level specified in section 1151 (d) of this title for
employment-based immigrants in a fiscal year shall be allotted visas as
follows:
(1) Priority workers
Aliens described in any of the following subparagraphs be admitted to the
United States without respect to the worldwide level specified in section
201(d);
......
(2)(B)
(B) ADVANCED DEGREES IN A STEM FIELD.—
(i) IN GENERAL.—A qualified immigrant shall be admitted to the United
States without respect to the worldwide level specified in section 201(d) if
such immigrant—
(I) has earned a graduate degree at the level of master’s or higher in a
field of science, technology, engineering, or mathematics from an accredited
United States institution of higher education.
(II) has an offer of employment from a United States employer in a field
related to such degree; and
(III) earned the qualifying graduate degree within the 5 years immediately
prior to the initial filing date of the petition under which the non
immigrant is a beneficiary.
【在 l**7 的大作中提到】
: 您今天不天上掉馅饼直接拿绿卡了？可惜啊
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C**********i
发帖数: 694 | 23 AND在if下面的各小项里，我没打出来，我的理解那只是限制各个大写字母项的，各大
写字母项之间是并列的or。没想到没打出来会有这么大歧义。一会打出来个例子
【在 f***i 的大作中提到】
: where is the "AND" he/she mentioned?
:
: 1101
: status
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 24 你要全打出来就没歧义了。
【在 C**********i 的大作中提到】
: AND在if下面的各小项里，我没打出来，我的理解那只是限制各个大写字母项的，各大
: 写字母项之间是并列的or。没想到没打出来会有这么大歧义。一会打出来个例子
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C**********i
发帖数: 694 | 25 我没把If后面的打出来，因为都是规定各小项的，和下一个并列大项应该是无关的。举
例（G）EB1A
‘‘(G) Aliens with extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education,
business, or athletics which has been demonstrated by sustained national or
international acclaim, if, with respect to any such alien—
‘‘(i) the achievements of such alien have been recognized in the
field through extensive documentation; 300
EAS13500 S.L.C.
‘‘(ii) such alien seeks to enter the United States to continue work
in the area of extraordinary ability; and
‘‘(iii) the entry of such alien into the United States will
substantially benefit prospectively the United States.
if后面的i，ii，iii只限制(G)也就是EB1A,和后面的EB1B,1C以及PhD没有关系，换句话
说，PhD和家属没名额不是局限于EB1的。当然，俺英语就这水平到头了。也不知道其他
款项有没有进一步的限制。
就这段而言，我这低级英语水平看起来是：
首先，各个大写字母是并列的，其狭小写字母只限制自己的大写字母项，然后具体：
所有家属不用占名额
Eb1a,b,c啥的取消名额限制（給EB2,EB3了）
然后只要过了Perm/NIW的140，没写Eb2还是Eb3，有PhD的就不占其名额
最后，Physician过了Residency有执照，无论是H1B或又是J1已经走Physician Waiver
的话，即使没有PhD，所谓的MD(实际是本科），如果不是Eb1的话，就是走EB2
Physician NIW，或者PERM，这样的也没有名额限制。
我觉得就算忽略家属不占名额应该是推广所有Eb这一条，光看特别列出来并列的
Physician走EB2 Physician NIW (没有PhD的）和perm也不占名额，也说明了这些并不
专指Eb1。因为Physician这条很明显指的是给Physician专用Eb2 NIW或者是直接Perm开
后门（没有PhD的特殊性）。
Physician这一块应该是很强的佐证适用范围可以推广到Eb1以外了吧。
如果忽略了其他的什么这段以外的条款，那就是俺知识量浅薄了。 |
C**********i
发帖数: 694 | 26 全打出来老长了……就不好抓Key Point了……俺自以为是了，还以为会更方便。
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: 你要全打出来就没歧义了。
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