a***c
发帖数: 728 | 1 殖民地早期，cheap labor难求，农场和种植园用indentured servitude - 契约工制度
吸引欧洲的穷人来做工。Servants服务四到七年，以偿还旅费，供吃住，没有工资，犯
了法处罚比一般人重，有可能延长contract.
后来有奴隶制度,把人从非洲抢来，当property买卖，在南方的种植园作奴隶。
奴隶制是合法的，（像今天的签证制度一样）合法存在了100多年。黑人奴隶从来没停
过反抗、逃跑，北方也有白人和自由黑人呼吁废奴，直到Lincoln的解放宣言，南北方
打仗，奴隶制告终。
工作签证和绿卡制度夺走我们很多自由，好几年不能换雇主、换行业，不能随意travel
,工资很多被压低，etc. 是servitude和slavery的新版本啊！有没有人有空把它和上面
两个institutions比较一下？
中国人和印度人都很docile, 认可quota，争quota, 新奴隶制会不会延续几百年？我们
需要abolitionists,需要知道这个制度本身是错的，应该废除的。 |
s*****l
发帖数: 321 | 2 奴隶是被抓来的，EB23是自己要来的。
travel
【在 a***c 的大作中提到】
: 殖民地早期，cheap labor难求，农场和种植园用indentured servitude - 契约工制度
: 吸引欧洲的穷人来做工。Servants服务四到七年，以偿还旅费，供吃住，没有工资，犯
: 了法处罚比一般人重，有可能延长contract.
: 后来有奴隶制度,把人从非洲抢来，当property买卖，在南方的种植园作奴隶。
: 奴隶制是合法的，（像今天的签证制度一样）合法存在了100多年。黑人奴隶从来没停
: 过反抗、逃跑，北方也有白人和自由黑人呼吁废奴，直到Lincoln的解放宣言，南北方
: 打仗，奴隶制告终。
: 工作签证和绿卡制度夺走我们很多自由，好几年不能换雇主、换行业，不能随意travel
: ,工资很多被压低，etc. 是servitude和slavery的新版本啊！有没有人有空把它和上面
: 两个institutions比较一下？
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a***c
发帖数: 728 | 3 Indentured servitude never died. Slavery was never abolished.
拿到三个job offer, 回首H1b的日子，感慨。 |
r********n
发帖数: 1162 | 4 GC is mordern slavery.
Most of EB2 have stayed here for a very long time, they know we won't give
up easily. They just use GC as a tool to use cheap labor.
This country is cold blooded and only "use" people.
travel
【在 a***c 的大作中提到】
: 殖民地早期，cheap labor难求，农场和种植园用indentured servitude - 契约工制度
: 吸引欧洲的穷人来做工。Servants服务四到七年，以偿还旅费，供吃住，没有工资，犯
: 了法处罚比一般人重，有可能延长contract.
: 后来有奴隶制度,把人从非洲抢来，当property买卖，在南方的种植园作奴隶。
: 奴隶制是合法的，（像今天的签证制度一样）合法存在了100多年。黑人奴隶从来没停
: 过反抗、逃跑，北方也有白人和自由黑人呼吁废奴，直到Lincoln的解放宣言，南北方
: 打仗，奴隶制告终。
: 工作签证和绿卡制度夺走我们很多自由，好几年不能换雇主、换行业，不能随意travel
: ,工资很多被压低，etc. 是servitude和slavery的新版本啊！有没有人有空把它和上面
: 两个institutions比较一下？
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w**a
发帖数: 3510 | 5 Well we have to admit after getting U.S degree we tried very hard at very
step to get GC. Finding a job, Applying H1B, Applying GC. It's totally our
choice, U.S not at single point tries to encourage us to do so. right?
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: GC is mordern slavery.
: Most of EB2 have stayed here for a very long time, they know we won't give
: up easily. They just use GC as a tool to use cheap labor.
: This country is cold blooded and only "use" people.
:
: travel
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r********n
发帖数: 1162 | 6 yes, but nobody knew this stupid system would keep people waiting for so
long!
after you wait for several years, it's difficult to get out any more!
that's the shit hole they set up for us!
【在 w**a 的大作中提到】
: Well we have to admit after getting U.S degree we tried very hard at very
: step to get GC. Finding a job, Applying H1B, Applying GC. It's totally our
: choice, U.S not at single point tries to encourage us to do so. right?
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w**a
发帖数: 3510 | 7 Then your expectation from the beginning is too high. Even before coming to
U.S I've known employee based GC process is long and painful.
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
: yes, but nobody knew this stupid system would keep people waiting for so
: long!
: after you wait for several years, it's difficult to get out any more!
: that's the shit hole they set up for us!
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