S*********r
发帖数: 4729 | 1 One of my friend in MSRA got 3 papers in, and all for first author.
MSRA this year got 9 papers in.
Maybe they can beat Stanford this time. | s*******y
发帖数: 558 | 2 我觉得msra是个非常decent的research lab
你们觉得呢?
对了 你的朋友在那里是researcher还是intern什么的
【在 S*********r 的大作中提到】
: One of my friend in MSRA got 3 papers in, and all for first author.
: MSRA this year got 9 papers in.
: Maybe they can beat Stanford this time.
| S*********r
发帖数: 4729 | 3 我师兄是researcher。msra在多媒体和图形学方向在全世界范围都是非常强。
就综合实力来说，图形学估计只比stanford逊色。
【在 s*******y 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得msra是个非常decent的research lab
: 你们觉得呢?
: 对了 你的朋友在那里是researcher还是intern什么的
| l**j
发帖数: 312 | 4 MSRA is really a good place. The first SIGGRAPH paper from HK (with firs
t author from HKUST) was produced when they were visiting MSRA. One of t
he authors from HKUST went to CUHK as faculty afterwards.
【在 S*********r 的大作中提到】
: 我师兄是researcher。msra在多媒体和图形学方向在全世界范围都是非常强。
: 就综合实力来说，图形学估计只比stanford逊色。
| h*****d
发帖数: 112 | 5 faint..【 在 lbyj (xiaoming) 的大作中提到: 】 | a**o
发帖数: 2 | 6 MSRA did very well on Siggraph publications. But it doesn't mean that their
research is top enough.
【在 h*****d 的大作中提到】
: faint..【 在 lbyj (xiaoming) 的大作中提到: 】
| r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 7 hehe... they produced a lot of siggraph papers, but no any important award
from the siggraph community. it say something.
But I have to say they really master how to make siggraph-kind-of-taste papers
in a batch mode.
people in MSRA spend a lot of time to read and discuss every current/previous
year siggraph papers? (more than 80 per year). I doubt the same thing will
happen in any university graphics group.
On the other hand,
They (number is large too) work very hard, and should get something b
【在 a**o 的大作中提到】
: MSRA did very well on Siggraph publications. But it doesn't mean that their
: research is top enough.
| h*****d
发帖数: 112 | 8
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What do you mean "no any imporant award"? U mean "Siggraph achievement award"?
Harry will win it in the future, mark my word! Now, Harry is too senior to be
considered for "young graphics researcher award".
Do not look down graphics groups in MSRA because they are from BJ, China.
Graphics lab in MSRA is as good as any graphics groups in the world, if not
better. Harry has been in siggraph committee only two times. But how many MSRA
papers got ac
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: hehe... they produced a lot of siggraph papers, but no any important award
: from the siggraph community. it say something.
: But I have to say they really master how to make siggraph-kind-of-taste papers
: in a batch mode.
: people in MSRA spend a lot of time to read and discuss every current/previous
: year siggraph papers? (more than 80 per year). I doubt the same thing will
: happen in any university graphics group.
: On the other hand,
: They (number is large too) work very hard, and should get something b
| r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 9 I don't think "significant new researcher award" has obvious age limitation.
How old is Prof. Steven Gortler at Harvard? he got it in 2002.
Yes, Harry is in paper committees twice (including this year), it happen that
these two years MSRA has the maximum performance (or has the most papers
accepted in the two years, not the other years). Draw a simple curve, you may
find it out.
But anyway, siggraph although keep a "graphics" name on it, but the graphics
contents is less and less...More and more
【在 h*****d 的大作中提到】
:
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: What do you mean "no any imporant award"? U mean "Siggraph achievement award"?
: Harry will win it in the future, mark my word! Now, Harry is too senior to be
: considered for "young graphics researcher award".
: Do not look down graphics groups in MSRA because they are from BJ, China.
: Graphics lab in MSRA is as good as any graphics groups in the world, if not
: better. Harry has been in siggraph committee only two times. But how many MSRA
: papers got ac
| h*****d
发帖数: 112 | 10 Lot of arguments here are from your own guess..
If you want to be considered for "new reseracher award", you need to apply for
it first. Harry will not consider it at all. Mcmillan will not apply for it
either. Steve applied for it because I guess he wanted to get this award for
his tenure at havard.
You might not know where this "new reserach award" is from.. This award is
there simply because siggraph wants to help young researchers in academia get
their tenures in good univerities..
Your comm
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: I don't think "significant new researcher award" has obvious age limitation.
: How old is Prof. Steven Gortler at Harvard? he got it in 2002.
: Yes, Harry is in paper committees twice (including this year), it happen that
: these two years MSRA has the maximum performance (or has the most papers
: accepted in the two years, not the other years). Draw a simple curve, you may
: find it out.
: But anyway, siggraph although keep a "graphics" name on it, but the graphics
: contents is less and less...More and more
| | | r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 11 you didn't get my comments.
The key point is that with less and less graphics contents in the siggraph,
why graphics industry should care?funny.
Look, those film and gaming industry can't use image and video processing
papers. Most of these works can be done by hiring some proficient Photoshop
users/animators.
Yes, graphics is very mature, and siggraph is becoming another ICCV. that's
fine.
I don't need you to tell the name, but I can tell you they have more times to
be siggraph committees than
【在 h*****d 的大作中提到】
: Lot of arguments here are from your own guess..
: If you want to be considered for "new reseracher award", you need to apply for
: it first. Harry will not consider it at all. Mcmillan will not apply for it
: either. Steve applied for it because I guess he wanted to get this award for
: his tenure at havard.
: You might not know where this "new reserach award" is from.. This award is
: there simply because siggraph wants to help young researchers in academia get
: their tenures in good univerities..
: Your comm
| r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 12 another fact about siggraph (it says siggraph is not prestigious at before):
it is true that siggraph submission each year is increasing, but slowly and
steadily.
several years ago, it accepted about 60 paper per year, last two years, it
accepted about 80 papers, this year (2005), it is said it accepted about 100
papers out of a little more than 400 paper submission.
accepted ratio is going toward ICCV and CVPR now.
for
get
of
limitation.
graphics
siggraph.
part
them
【在 h*****d 的大作中提到】
: Lot of arguments here are from your own guess..
: If you want to be considered for "new reseracher award", you need to apply for
: it first. Harry will not consider it at all. Mcmillan will not apply for it
: either. Steve applied for it because I guess he wanted to get this award for
: his tenure at havard.
: You might not know where this "new reserach award" is from.. This award is
: there simply because siggraph wants to help young researchers in academia get
: their tenures in good univerities..
: Your comm
| n********t
发帖数: 63 | 13 How do you guys know the results of this year's SIGGRAPH? Did you receive the
final results?
it
for
me
kind
you
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: another fact about siggraph (it says siggraph is not prestigious at before):
: it is true that siggraph submission each year is increasing, but slowly and
: steadily.
: several years ago, it accepted about 60 paper per year, last two years, it
: accepted about 80 papers, this year (2005), it is said it accepted about 100
: papers out of a little more than 400 paper submission.
: accepted ratio is going toward ICCV and CVPR now.
:
: for
: get
| h*****d
发帖数: 112 | 14 I doubt you know Image-based rendering well while you still talk about this
like you are an expert in this area. Learn to read those 100+ IBR papers
first. Mcmillan is more respected researcher than Debevic in IBR. period.
I guess I might know more than you in terms of both graphics research and
those siggraph tricks. If you think Zoran, Mathieu, Paul and steve are better
than Harry, Mcmillan or even Brien Curless, then I am going to stop arguing
against you.
to
it
for
pinnacle
me
shit
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: you didn't get my comments.
: The key point is that with less and less graphics contents in the siggraph,
: why graphics industry should care?funny.
: Look, those film and gaming industry can't use image and video processing
: papers. Most of these works can be done by hiring some proficient Photoshop
: users/animators.
: Yes, graphics is very mature, and siggraph is becoming another ICCV. that's
: fine.
: I don't need you to tell the name, but I can tell you they have more times to
: be siggraph committees than
| r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 15 I don't know it either,
but one of my friends who know Paper committees told me little information
just now.
I am still waiting. damn it..... tomorrow everybody is supposed to receive
emails, I think.
the
before):
and
100
apply
is
academia
how
research
happen
papers
【在 n********t 的大作中提到】
: How do you guys know the results of this year's SIGGRAPH? Did you receive the
: final results?
:
: it
: for
: me
: kind
: you
| n********t
发帖数: 63 | 16 Thanks a lot. I sent you email to this BBS.
tell
it
for
award
award
Tell
【在 h*****d 的大作中提到】
: I doubt you know Image-based rendering well while you still talk about this
: like you are an expert in this area. Learn to read those 100+ IBR papers
: first. Mcmillan is more respected researcher than Debevic in IBR. period.
: I guess I might know more than you in terms of both graphics research and
: those siggraph tricks. If you think Zoran, Mathieu, Paul and steve are better
: than Harry, Mcmillan or even Brien Curless, then I am going to stop arguing
: against you.
:
: to
: it
| r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 17 hehe... up to you.
I spoke out all my points already. The readers in this board will judge the
points themselves. NOT YOU.
Another thing is that you can't answer/argue the main points/focus I
mentioned, and you like to argue some trivial "no-absolute-right" things with
me. So what?
Just your opinion. Unfortunately, award committees didn't think so.
better
whatever, I just don't agree.
remember: a good manager (even called research manager) doesn't mean "=a top
researcher".
graphics,
Photoshop
t
【在 h*****d 的大作中提到】
: I doubt you know Image-based rendering well while you still talk about this
: like you are an expert in this area. Learn to read those 100+ IBR papers
: first. Mcmillan is more respected researcher than Debevic in IBR. period.
: I guess I might know more than you in terms of both graphics research and
: those siggraph tricks. If you think Zoran, Mathieu, Paul and steve are better
: than Harry, Mcmillan or even Brien Curless, then I am going to stop arguing
: against you.
:
: to
: it
| r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 18 You said you know more.
Then I asked you two trivial questions:
who first proposed "mipmap" in graphics? who first proposed "shadow map" in
graphics?
better
graphics,
Photoshop
that's
apply
matter
highly
contribution
don't
is
opinion.
【在 h*****d 的大作中提到】
: I doubt you know Image-based rendering well while you still talk about this
: like you are an expert in this area. Learn to read those 100+ IBR papers
: first. Mcmillan is more respected researcher than Debevic in IBR. period.
: I guess I might know more than you in terms of both graphics research and
: those siggraph tricks. If you think Zoran, Mathieu, Paul and steve are better
: than Harry, Mcmillan or even Brien Curless, then I am going to stop arguing
: against you.
:
: to
: it
| S***u
发帖数: 1678 | 19 Haha, if I guess right, you are my labmate.
Calm down.
As for MSRA, no matter what, there must be some extremely clever guys to
manage and lead the group, so that they can be that productive. It's not just
man power, otherwise, why not other Chinese research lab or universities be
productive? I guess Harry deserve any graphical awards.
However, personally, I have to say I hate MSRA. They have such a huge range of
research area (which unfortunately covers my previous one, and my poor only
one). S
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: hehe... up to you.
: I spoke out all my points already. The readers in this board will judge the
: points themselves. NOT YOU.
: Another thing is that you can't answer/argue the main points/focus I
: mentioned, and you like to argue some trivial "no-absolute-right" things with
: me. So what?
:
: Just your opinion. Unfortunately, award committees didn't think so.
: better
: whatever, I just don't agree.
| r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 20 your guess could be wrong. hehe. In bbs, the rule is that you don't need to
guess or
link too much to reality. You can speak what you truly think about. I guess
you know it. :(
You know what, the argument is switched from MSRA to siggraph trend. The
latter one is the main argument I want to discuss/argue.
just
of
time
the
period.
and
top
【在 S***u 的大作中提到】
: Haha, if I guess right, you are my labmate.
: Calm down.
: As for MSRA, no matter what, there must be some extremely clever guys to
: manage and lead the group, so that they can be that productive. It's not just
: man power, otherwise, why not other Chinese research lab or universities be
: productive? I guess Harry deserve any graphical awards.
: However, personally, I have to say I hate MSRA. They have such a huge range of
: research area (which unfortunately covers my previous one, and my poor only
: one). S
| | | O******Y
发帖数: 88 | 21
that
and the friends of MSRA. :-) Politics is everywhere and it is nothing wrong to
play with it. But some people told me that he played too hard last time as a
committee, maybe this time too. :-)
may
papers"
It
of
The
award
not
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: I don't think "significant new researcher award" has obvious age limitation.
: How old is Prof. Steven Gortler at Harvard? he got it in 2002.
: Yes, Harry is in paper committees twice (including this year), it happen that
: these two years MSRA has the maximum performance (or has the most papers
: accepted in the two years, not the other years). Draw a simple curve, you may
: find it out.
: But anyway, siggraph although keep a "graphics" name on it, but the graphics
: contents is less and less...More and more
| S*********r
发帖数: 4729 | 22 Maybe because this year he is going to be the chair of ICCV.
So people in committee have to give him some face. hehe.
limitation.
to
graphics
siggraph.
part
them
to
China.
【在 O******Y 的大作中提到】
:
: that
: and the friends of MSRA. :-) Politics is everywhere and it is nothing wrong to
: play with it. But some people told me that he played too hard last time as a
: committee, maybe this time too. :-)
: may
: papers"
: It
: of
: The
| O******Y
发帖数: 88 | 23 There is no doubt he is a very good and hard-working researcher.
wrong
a
you
less".
【在 S*********r 的大作中提到】
: Maybe because this year he is going to be the chair of ICCV.
: So people in committee have to give him some face. hehe.
:
: limitation.
: to
: graphics
: siggraph.
: part
: them
: to
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