i****e
发帖数: 642 | 1 IMP, red vs white
4
QJ97
AJ543
AK9
You open 1D.
1D P 1S P
?
Question 1: what is your rebid, 1NT, 2C or 2D, if your partnership don't
have an agreement before?
Let's say you bid 2C, no matter it is the agreement or your decision.
1D P 1S P
2C P 3S P
?
For most partnership, 3S should be invitational with 6S.
Question 2: do you choose 3NT or 4S, or you pass?
Questions related to play will follow later, depending on the contract. | g****o
发帖数: 1284 | 2 Qustion 1: I will rebid 1NT, which I think is the best description of this
hand. It doesn't deny the holding of 4 hearts so we won't miss a possible 4-
4 heart game. If you choose to rebid 2C, then partner might think that you
have at least 9 cards in minors to make it meaningless to pursue heart game
even if he has 4 hearts other than 6 spades.
Question 2: I will choose 4S as my AKs are better for suit contract but it
is my personal preference.
【在 i****e 的大作中提到】
: IMP, red vs white
: 4
: QJ97
: AJ543
: AK9
: You open 1D.
: 1D P 1S P
: ?
: Question 1: what is your rebid, 1NT, 2C or 2D, if your partnership don't
: have an agreement before?
| b***y
发帖数: 2804 | 3 1) I think for this hand, 1NT is fine. Yes it shows 12-14, but I just have a
so-so 15 and misfit with partner, so it is not much of underbid. The
problem of 2C is, say partner bids a neutral 2D, you don't really know what
to do (probably pass). Also, 2C may result missing heart fit. When I bid 1NT
, if partner has 4 hearts, he can bid a non-forcing 2H, I can raise to show
a super-max. The problem of 1NT is that, partner thinks I have at least 2
spades, sometimes we may end up in wrong part-score or game. But if you play
a comprehensive checkback system, this should not be a big issue.
2) After I bid 2C and partner 3S, I probably bid 3NT. My heart holding is
suitable for NT (and I expect a heart lead), also my diamonds may provide a
source of tricks if partner has a mild fit. If partner is very shapely with
7 spades, he can still bid 4S. | i****e
发帖数: 642 | 4 Nice analysis. The choice between 1NT and 2C (we can almost exclude 2D) is
clearly related to a lot of bidding structures. I like 1D-1S-1NT-2H as non
forcing, but I know some players treat it as one-round forcing. This will
affect the choice.
The chance to miss heart game is not high. If patter has game forcing value,
he will bid 2H as 4th suit anyway. Then you can raise to 3H. 2C could miss
4H game if partner has invitational hand, and miss a part score in hearts,
since after partner's 2D (may hold 5422 with less than GF value), the hand
is not strong enough to bid 2H. Otoh, rebidding 1NT can also lead to wrong
part score in spades.
From your analysis of 1NT vs 2C, it seems to me 2C may be better for this
hand :)
Long time ago, I "smartly" bid 2C with the same shape, but got criticism
from almost everyone. But there were some difference from this hand: I had
only 12 HCP, and my clubs were Qxx.
FYI, both tables bid 2C for this hand. One is Dano de Falco (big star no one
doubts), and the other is a BBO star (we don't know how close he is to a
real star :)
After 3S, Dano raised to 4S, which surprised me. But for the real layout, 4S
is, at least, not worse than 3NT.
4
QJ97
AJ543
AK9
AQT752
K8
Q72
63
Declarer's LHO has SK9xx DKxx, so there are 3 losers, 2 in trumps and HA. It
is not hard to play 4S, although there was choice to drop HTxx or play DK
onside.
The other table was in 3NT. The lead was C4, 3, J, K. (is it better to duck?
) Then H to K held. D to J held too. DA, but K did not drop. What is next?
a
what
1NT
show
play
a
【在 b***y 的大作中提到】
: 1) I think for this hand, 1NT is fine. Yes it shows 12-14, but I just have a
: so-so 15 and misfit with partner, so it is not much of underbid. The
: problem of 2C is, say partner bids a neutral 2D, you don't really know what
: to do (probably pass). Also, 2C may result missing heart fit. When I bid 1NT
: , if partner has 4 hearts, he can bid a non-forcing 2H, I can raise to show
: a super-max. The problem of 1NT is that, partner thinks I have at least 2
: spades, sometimes we may end up in wrong part-score or game. But if you play
: a comprehensive checkback system, this should not be a big issue.
: 2) After I bid 2C and partner 3S, I probably bid 3NT. My heart holding is
: suitable for NT (and I expect a heart lead), also my diamonds may provide a
| v**********e
发帖数: 1295 | 5 Q1: If we change a small D to S, 1NT is clear; If we change a small D to C,
2C
could be better but 1NT is also acceptable. Just treat this hand as one of
the above cases. 1NT seems better.
Q2: If we bid 1NT and partner still bid 3S, 3NT or 4S could be a close
choice. But right now, partner insists on 3S after our 2C, I think 4S should
be better than 3NT. Assuming partner has something like KQJTXX in S and a
side A/K.
【在 i****e 的大作中提到】
: IMP, red vs white
: 4
: QJ97
: AJ543
: AK9
: You open 1D.
: 1D P 1S P
: ?
: Question 1: what is your rebid, 1NT, 2C or 2D, if your partnership don't
: have an agreement before?
| p***r
发帖数: 20570 | 6 It is either a 2D or a 1NT rebid hand. 1NT is an underbid because partner
may sometimes pass some really good 10 or some bad 11, which may often
produce games.
Sometimes, you may have a tough bid if partner bids 2H. 3H here can be an
underbid.
2C is generally a bad bid for such shapes. It's especially bad because it
may lead to bad games or slams in clubs.
2D may land you some bad partials, but if partner can bid over 2D, you
should usually be in good shape.
Another unpopular choice for this hand is to open 1NT and hope partner doesn
't have 6 spades or 5 spades and a bad hand.
【在 i****e 的大作中提到】
: IMP, red vs white
: 4
: QJ97
: AJ543
: AK9
: You open 1D.
: 1D P 1S P
: ?
: Question 1: what is your rebid, 1NT, 2C or 2D, if your partnership don't
: have an agreement before?
| i****e
发帖数: 642 | 7 2D is my "old-fashion" rebid for this kind of hands, since 1NT should show 2
+ spades, and 2C should have 4 clubs. 2D should show 6 diamonds, but can
include some duckling hands like this one. It seems that the old-fashion
still has market :)
doesn
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】
: It is either a 2D or a 1NT rebid hand. 1NT is an underbid because partner
: may sometimes pass some really good 10 or some bad 11, which may often
: produce games.
: Sometimes, you may have a tough bid if partner bids 2H. 3H here can be an
: underbid.
: 2C is generally a bad bid for such shapes. It's especially bad because it
: may lead to bad games or slams in clubs.
: 2D may land you some bad partials, but if partner can bid over 2D, you
: should usually be in good shape.
: Another unpopular choice for this hand is to open 1NT and hope partner doesn
| p***r
发帖数: 20570 | 8 I think 1NT wins more times in MP, as long as partner doesn't bid 2S with 5
spades and bad hands (Also, you may easily miss some cold slams in D or H).
2D would usually lead to reasonable games and slams, but may lead to some 5-
1 or 5-0 fit 2D and may miss some really nice H partials (and games
sometimes)... 2C may miss the most likely making contract of 1NT in a
seemingly misfit hand. So it's bad in both MP and IMP...
In R-S' original system, they play reverse to be game forcing, which means
that they can rebid 2 m with a huge hand, way better than this one.
Comparing with that style, rebidding 2m is probably not that old fasioned.
2
【在 i****e 的大作中提到】
: 2D is my "old-fashion" rebid for this kind of hands, since 1NT should show 2
: + spades, and 2C should have 4 clubs. 2D should show 6 diamonds, but can
: include some duckling hands like this one. It seems that the old-fashion
: still has market :)
:
: doesn
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