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Bridge版 - how can you make this a disaster?
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a*******s
发帖数: 295
1
IMP None,
you hold
S -----
H AQJ8
D 1054
C AQ9765
Pd deals and open 1D, RHO makes a 1S overcall, what's your call?
c****u
发帖数: 3277
2
2C, very simple. negative double is bad here.
this hand is just too strong and too distributional.
You can always rebid H after 2C to bid your shape and strength.

【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: IMP None,
: you hold
: S -----
: H AQJ8
: D 1054
: C AQ9765
: Pd deals and open 1D, RHO makes a 1S overcall, what's your call?

a***n
发帖数: 287
3

排除性加倍显得太弱么(看你们的约定吧)? 应该能逼叫一圈吧.
另外1D承诺什么(除了开叫点力以外)? 如果保证4+D的话,也许
2S这个叫品比较合适.

【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: IMP None,
: you hold
: S -----
: H AQJ8
: D 1054
: C AQ9765
: Pd deals and open 1D, RHO makes a 1S overcall, what's your call?

a***n
发帖数: 287
4

Can 2C be interpreted as long suit but limited honor points?
If this possibility is allowed in your bidding system, then
you may never have the chance to rebid.

【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: 2C, very simple. negative double is bad here.
: this hand is just too strong and too distributional.
: You can always rebid H after 2C to bid your shape and strength.

m*e
发帖数: 155
5
2C non-forcing may be attractive thus popular to some players,
(there was an article about non-forcing 2/1 competition convention
on last year's QiaoPai(issue 7)? magazine, talking good about it)
but it is not standard. I think it is no doubtedly forcing one round
unless you play some special convention. (after one round, there are
certainly more forcing bids with this hand, e.g. bid H game forcing,
or bid S later).
a*******s
发帖数: 295
6

Suppose you play 2C as forcing one round like most people do.
That means a double followed by a 3C showing a weak hand with
4-6 distribution and only interested in competition.
Seems you have to bid 2C with this hand.
The auction goes on:
1D 1S 2C 3S
3NT / ?
now what?

【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: IMP None,
: you hold
: S -----
: H AQJ8
: D 1054
: C AQ9765
: Pd deals and open 1D, RHO makes a 1S overcall, what's your call?

a***n
发帖数: 287
7

看起来同伴是4+D和4S(或者强的3张S),草花应该有3+配合.我倾向于选择打草花定约,
只是不知道是否有满贯.
在你们的体系里现在叫4C是什么意思? 等待,还是止叫? 如果是前者的话
我想叫4C,听听同伴有什么可说的. 是后者的话就改成5C算了. 从手上的
情况看红桃上好象有废点了,方块的配合也不是很好,满贯漏了就漏了吧.

【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
:
: Suppose you play 2C as forcing one round like most people do.
: That means a double followed by a 3C showing a weak hand with
: 4-6 distribution and only interested in competition.
: Seems you have to bid 2C with this hand.
: The auction goes on:
: 1D 1S 2C 3S
: 3NT / ?
: now what?

c****u
发帖数: 3277
8
4H: just to finish my plan.
partner bid 3NT freely, so he should have a reasonable hand here.
If he rebid 4NT, I'd pass it. If he cuebid 4S, I'd bid 5NT to ask him
to pick a slam.

【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
:
: Suppose you play 2C as forcing one round like most people do.
: That means a double followed by a 3C showing a weak hand with
: 4-6 distribution and only interested in competition.
: Seems you have to bid 2C with this hand.
: The auction goes on:
: 1D 1S 2C 3S
: 3NT / ?
: now what?

w****b
发帖数: 623
9
Generally 1D-1S-2C does not promise that much (it's only 1-round force), so
opener's free bid of 3N feels like either he has a filler (CK) or a running D
suit. i.e, either something like KJT xx AKQxxx xx, or KJT xxx AKxx Kxx
(typically). In either case, exploring H slam is of less importance, but you
may need to find out streams to either minor slam. Another reason that H slam
may not be that great is that your H spots are too good to stand tapping in S
a*******s
发帖数: 295
10
absolutely, I missed this point at the table. 4H seems the most obvious one,
which I did. unfortunately, holding S QJxx H xx D AKQxxx C x, pd had a
tough problem and eventually passed, for my shape could be 1-5-1-6.
4H is "natural", but give pd no direction on what to do.
4S is slightly an overbid, nevertheless, everything is still in control,
pd won't have any further problem. he could either rebid diamonds or
show his club support.
I almost made 4H, so you can see 6D would not have any problem

【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: Generally 1D-1S-2C does not promise that much (it's only 1-round force), so
: opener's free bid of 3N feels like either he has a filler (CK) or a running D
: suit. i.e, either something like KJT xx AKQxxx xx, or KJT xxx AKxx Kxx
: (typically). In either case, exploring H slam is of less importance, but you
: may need to find out streams to either minor slam. Another reason that H slam
: may not be that great is that your H spots are too good to stand tapping in S

c****u
发帖数: 3277
11
passing 4H is very bad.
from her holding, you are likely to be void in spade,
so you look like having basic support in D. 5D is usually safe.
if she isn't that good, at least bid 4NT as to play.
pass is the worst bid here.

【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: absolutely, I missed this point at the table. 4H seems the most obvious one,
: which I did. unfortunately, holding S QJxx H xx D AKQxxx C x, pd had a
: tough problem and eventually passed, for my shape could be 1-5-1-6.
: 4H is "natural", but give pd no direction on what to do.
: 4S is slightly an overbid, nevertheless, everything is still in control,
: pd won't have any further problem. he could either rebid diamonds or
: show his club support.
: I almost made 4H, so you can see 6D would not have any problem

w****b
发帖数: 623
12
True, passing is very marginal, especially with the actual hand. But the
proper way to look at a disaster is to examine our side for possible
improvements and if we can help pd avoid that fatal mistake, perhaps due to a
flying cow -- after all it's much easier to perfect ourselves than partner.
Given the 3NT bid, there's just no room for partner to have 4 card H suit, so
the natural, nonforcing 4H serves little purpose here. And to show H strength
should be of a long secondary importance. Pd wi

【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: passing 4H is very bad.
: from her holding, you are likely to be void in spade,
: so you look like having basic support in D. 5D is usually safe.
: if she isn't that good, at least bid 4NT as to play.
: pass is the worst bid here.

c****u
发帖数: 3277
13

4H here is still forward going, showing mild slam interest.
Partner should never pass 4H with 3 H or less. I think partner can pass 4H
only with something like this:
SAQx Hxxxx DAKJxx Cx,you need a magic hand to make 6H, so 4H should be ok.
I would bid 2H with this hand. This hand isn't strong enough to comit to 5
level. So I just treat it as 5-5 to avoid reverse at high level.
if you bid 2C,
1D 1S 2C 4S
p p ?
I don't think 4NT is clear here. if partner bid 5D over 4NT, do you still
want to b

【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: True, passing is very marginal, especially with the actual hand. But the
: proper way to look at a disaster is to examine our side for possible
: improvements and if we can help pd avoid that fatal mistake, perhaps due to a
: flying cow -- after all it's much easier to perfect ourselves than partner.
: Given the 3NT bid, there's just no room for partner to have 4 card H suit, so
: the natural, nonforcing 4H serves little purpose here. And to show H strength
: should be of a long secondary importance. Pd wi

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