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Bridge版 - just calm down
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c****u
发帖数: 3277
1
it's a marginal hand with wild distributions, over a heavy preempt,
why can't you guys accept that it's OK to miss a slam? At least you
found the right suit, congratulations!
Still, bridge is not an accurate science and 6-4 two suiters
are always hard to bid. I think those who found 6C are great, those
who found 5C are not to blame as well. Over 4S cuebid, north's hand
is still not clear to bid 6C, because his partner may have
SKQ Hxx DAKQTx CQJxx, this is a hand enough for a cuebid, right?
Do y
c****n
发帖数: 21367
2
miss a slam is ok after successful premptive... I said in my previous
posts...
4C is good for the described hand, 5C is a little low in my way,
if llyshc is bidding 4S, I will reach 6C with original hand
the process may be 4nt 5c 6c... I left a chance for my partner
to talk about grand slam possibility.
however, I think there is nothing to blame 4C, and pass 3S is
completely wild... out of my logic to 2 over 1 system...

【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: it's a marginal hand with wild distributions, over a heavy preempt,
: why can't you guys accept that it's OK to miss a slam? At least you
: found the right suit, congratulations!
: Still, bridge is not an accurate science and 6-4 two suiters
: are always hard to bid. I think those who found 6C are great, those
: who found 5C are not to blame as well. Over 4S cuebid, north's hand
: is still not clear to bid 6C, because his partner may have
: SKQ Hxx DAKQTx CQJxx, this is a hand enough for a cuebid, right?
: Do y

f*o
发帖数: 168
3
agree in principle

【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: it's a marginal hand with wild distributions, over a heavy preempt,
: why can't you guys accept that it's OK to miss a slam? At least you
: found the right suit, congratulations!
: Still, bridge is not an accurate science and 6-4 two suiters
: are always hard to bid. I think those who found 6C are great, those
: who found 5C are not to blame as well. Over 4S cuebid, north's hand
: is still not clear to bid 6C, because his partner may have
: SKQ Hxx DAKQTx CQJxx, this is a hand enough for a cuebid, right?
: Do y

a****s
发帖数: 524
4
许多年以前, 在全国大奖赛上碰上如今早已号称大师的中建牌痞。 后来有人告诉我,
这位W大师和他的这位搭档,在牌桌上使眼色是家常便饭。不幸的是,那天的比赛,
从桌上到桌下都拉着隔板。。。 我和XINGXING打得鬼子脸红筋涨,直喘粗气。
鬼子一看,这么不行啊,就对我们看着不顺眼的局胡飞刀,对不起,老子肉搓,超一。
这时裁判不请自到,加倍取消。。。

【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: it's a marginal hand with wild distributions, over a heavy preempt,
: why can't you guys accept that it's OK to miss a slam? At least you
: found the right suit, congratulations!
: Still, bridge is not an accurate science and 6-4 two suiters
: are always hard to bid. I think those who found 6C are great, those
: who found 5C are not to blame as well. Over 4S cuebid, north's hand
: is still not clear to bid 6C, because his partner may have
: SKQ Hxx DAKQTx CQJxx, this is a hand enough for a cuebid, right?
: Do y

x***e
发帖数: 2449
5
Just like I said, calm down is the most difficult part.:)
Even the so called 裁判 can't calm down till somebody called him.

CAxxxx,

【在 a****s 的大作中提到】
: 许多年以前, 在全国大奖赛上碰上如今早已号称大师的中建牌痞。 后来有人告诉我,
: 这位W大师和他的这位搭档,在牌桌上使眼色是家常便饭。不幸的是,那天的比赛,
: 从桌上到桌下都拉着隔板。。。 我和XINGXING打得鬼子脸红筋涨,直喘粗气。
: 鬼子一看,这么不行啊,就对我们看着不顺眼的局胡飞刀,对不起,老子肉搓,超一。
: 这时裁判不请自到,加倍取消。。。

w****b
发帖数: 623
6
I have followed this long thread on this now properous board but have
restrained to offer an opinion on this hot topic... just want to add 2
cents.
Sometimes it's good to draw a line, when discussing these kind of hands, when
partner's expectation of the bid is a major part of the problem, between what
you think is the preferred style, and what might be the standard (that most
people would expect). There are often gaps in between, and there is not much
point to argue the merits of each. Bridge i

【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: miss a slam is ok after successful premptive... I said in my previous
: posts...
: 4C is good for the described hand, 5C is a little low in my way,
: if llyshc is bidding 4S, I will reach 6C with original hand
: the process may be 4nt 5c 6c... I left a chance for my partner
: to talk about grand slam possibility.
: however, I think there is nothing to blame 4C, and pass 3S is
: completely wild... out of my logic to 2 over 1 system...

c****u
发帖数: 3277
7
It's probably OK to make a takeout double over 3S and correct partner's 4D
to 4H. I think pass shows either balanced minimum hands or penalty oriented
hands. So now, over partner's 4C, you can raise it to 5C and it's still
upto partner's judgement to bid the slam. So 4C over 3S
can show 5-5 two suiters and some extra value. Also, double is more felxible,
if partner passes, you don't regret at all; if partner bids 3NT, you have
a hard time, and perhaps you'd play there or pull to 4H, they are clo

【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: I have followed this long thread on this now properous board but have
: restrained to offer an opinion on this hot topic... just want to add 2
: cents.
: Sometimes it's good to draw a line, when discussing these kind of hands, when
: partner's expectation of the bid is a major part of the problem, between what
: you think is the preferred style, and what might be the standard (that most
: people would expect). There are often gaps in between, and there is not much
: point to argue the merits of each. Bridge i

a****s
发帖数: 524
8
I have to say that I neglected this point when I consider a reasonable
sequence.
Double is really a very good call not only in the sense
it suggests a club strain and some positive flavor, but
also because this hand will defend very well if partner decide
to leave it in.

felxible,
when
what
most
much
many
the
partners,
and
i.e,
are
preferred
spends

【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: It's probably OK to make a takeout double over 3S and correct partner's 4D
: to 4H. I think pass shows either balanced minimum hands or penalty oriented
: hands. So now, over partner's 4C, you can raise it to 5C and it's still
: upto partner's judgement to bid the slam. So 4C over 3S
: can show 5-5 two suiters and some extra value. Also, double is more felxible,
: if partner passes, you don't regret at all; if partner bids 3NT, you have
: a hard time, and perhaps you'd play there or pull to 4H, they are clo

a****s
发帖数: 524
9
裁判的判决当然会是对他们有利啦,几个毛头小伙,who cares?
中建可是得罪不起的哦。在中国当桥牌裁判,哪个不是人情第一。
只是这么一来, 我们这些愣头愣脑的小年轻哪里还能再心平气和
地应付下面的牌呢?
后来我想,鬼子找点借口就胡一刀并非是为了那可能的区区一点
点的额外罚分欧。借用裁判的帮助乱我心气才是鬼子的真正意图。
黑吧?
这也是为什么中建在出“BB机”事件之前似乎总是“锐不可挡”的
原因。一两副牌的得分本身通常并不能决定比赛的胜负,但是乱了
方寸的对手却一定是难再去争取胜利的。借助裁判帮助经常无理取
闹才是其致胜法宝。这也就是兵法上所谓的“治气”。




【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: Just like I said, calm down is the most difficult part.:)
: Even the so called 裁判 can't calm down till somebody called him.
:
: CAxxxx,

c****n
发帖数: 21367
10
啊,可以这样的啊... 什么理由呢?判罚也应该是比如给他们一个定约算分
之类吧... 哪有改变你们定约的道理...

【在 a****s 的大作中提到】
: 许多年以前, 在全国大奖赛上碰上如今早已号称大师的中建牌痞。 后来有人告诉我,
: 这位W大师和他的这位搭档,在牌桌上使眼色是家常便饭。不幸的是,那天的比赛,
: 从桌上到桌下都拉着隔板。。。 我和XINGXING打得鬼子脸红筋涨,直喘粗气。
: 鬼子一看,这么不行啊,就对我们看着不顺眼的局胡飞刀,对不起,老子肉搓,超一。
: 这时裁判不请自到,加倍取消。。。

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