x*******t
发帖数: 3764 | 1 如果3个aim，每个里面再有subaim的话，很容易就超过page limits了，要求不超过12
页。。。2个aim可以么？每个里面有三个subaim
多谢 |
b*********z
发帖数: 91 | 2 R01也是12页，要求的内容更多
12
【在 x*******t 的大作中提到】
: 如果3个aim，每个里面再有subaim的话，很容易就超过page limits了，要求不超过12
: 页。。。2个aim可以么？每个里面有三个subaim
: 多谢
|
x*******t
发帖数: 3764 | 3 其实去除background和preliminary data剩下的实验设计部分占的也不多，想多写点，
又超了
【在 b*********z 的大作中提到】
: R01也是12页，要求的内容更多
:
: 12
|
b*********z
发帖数: 91 | 4 其实你的K99评委可能只看20分钟，关键是你的big picture 能不能让评委20分钟内看
出来，写得多评委反而会烦
【在 x*******t 的大作中提到】
: 其实去除background和preliminary data剩下的实验设计部分占的也不多，想多写点，
: 又超了
|
x*******t
发帖数: 3764 | 5 good to know, thanks
【在 b*********z 的大作中提到】
: 其实你的K99评委可能只看20分钟，关键是你的big picture 能不能让评委20分钟内看
: 出来，写得多评委反而会烦
|
s****9
发帖数: 932 | 6 新的格式不是只有signficance, innovation,approach，哪里来的background部分
【在 x*******t 的大作中提到】
: 其实去除background和preliminary data剩下的实验设计部分占的也不多，想多写点，
: 又超了
|
A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 7 Your significance and innovation is the most important part (other than
specific aims). If you can not hook the reviewers after the aim page,
signifciance, and innovation, your grant will be in trouble. Look at some
sample R01s. |
P****d
发帖数: 564 | 8 My two cents (or 5) in addition to Arty's and bomberblitz's advice:
1. 突出框架。
(1) 不厌其烦地确保每一个段落，每一个句群的最开始，都是一个pointer ("In order
to control for XXX", or "I consider three possibilities...")。如果哪一部分
的pointer加得很困难，说明那一块还没组织好。
(2) Enumerate when possible. "I consider three possibilities. First, ...
Second, ... Third, ..." is easier on the reader than "There are multiple
possibilities. For example, ... Furthermore, ... In addition, ..."
(3) For each section, highlight one or two sentences in bold, so that
scanning through these sentences is a quick reminder of the highlights of
the proposal. This will force you to articulate the high-level points that
bomberblitz refers to, as well as the global flow (you have to say A first
so that B makes sense).
(4) Summarize, summarize, summarize. Summarize as much as you use leading
pointers.
(5) With these things occupying space in your precious 6 pages on the Aims,
it'll help force out the unnecessary and agitating details.
2. Use general terms and avoid jargons in your small field. Every time I
read gene names in an organism that I haven't worked on, it gives me a
headache. So I always say "the XXX kinase" instead of just XXX.
3. Along the same line of making life easier for your reviewers, make it
easier for them to find things. Instead of saying "see below" or "as
mentioned before", say "see also section 2.2" or "as discussed in section 1.
3.2". (see also 1.2 and 1.3)
4. Use NIH lingo. "A major GAP in the field", "INNOVATIVE approach based
on cutting edge XXX". These NIH jargons can be found in their explanations
on the structure of the proposals and the review process. Feed the reviewers
the words you want them to say. Prepare the summary sentences in these
jargons that your reviewers can copy and paste, and repeat each a couple
times throughout the proposal (see also 1.3)
5. Give the training plan as much thought as the research plan. Emphasize
on the "VALUE ADDED" (again, NIH lingo, see 4). |
x*******t
发帖数: 3764 | 9 这个要求是必须固定的么？有点的background交代理解上应该好点吧，当然可以把
background糅合到其他里面
【在 s****9 的大作中提到】
: 新的格式不是只有signficance, innovation,approach，哪里来的background部分
|
A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 10 Background should be to the point of the grant, if you say a single word
more than you need to, you will be in trouble. Yes, you should incorporte
them into the talking point.
【在 x*******t 的大作中提到】
: 这个要求是必须固定的么？有点的background交代理解上应该好点吧，当然可以把
: background糅合到其他里面
|
|
|
x*******t
发帖数: 3764 | 11 十分感谢，我目前的proposal的结构是这样的
Aims 1. XXXXXX
Rationale
subaim 1. (mentor stage)
a little bit description or overview blabla, something like that
methods
predicted results and interpretations
potential difficulties
significance
subaim 2..............
有啥好建议么？应该在那部分强调一下？现在看来significance应该在多写点，
innovation是不是体现在predicted result and interpretation里面？
多谢啦
【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: Background should be to the point of the grant, if you say a single word
: more than you need to, you will be in trouble. Yes, you should incorporte
: them into the talking point.
|
A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 12 Innovation should be about your approach? or what you proposed to study?
The rule as far as I know is that your significant and innovation should not
be longer than 1.5 pages. |
x*******t
发帖数: 3764 | 13 i think innovation should be related to what i am going to study, cause the
approaches are all common in this field (but i agree not all the lab can set
up all the assays....). Saying something that my study can solve the
molecular mechanism of xxx field and also provide detailed information about
xxx disease would be important for the innovation part. right?
thanks for your suggestion,
not
【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: Innovation should be about your approach? or what you proposed to study?
: The rule as far as I know is that your significant and innovation should not
: be longer than 1.5 pages.
|
l**********1
发帖数: 5204 | 14 CS or Experimental Physics likes Optics PhD graduated what s/he thinks while
s/he read your proposal ? just ask nearby that background PD
plus that her/his thought as stuff to your that proposal then it will be
uncommon approach in wet bio field which equals innovation
please refer
How to Make a Computer from a Living Cell
Genetic logic gates will enable biologists to program cells for chemical
production and disease detection.
on March 28, 201
//www.technologyreview.com/news/512901/how-to-make-a-computer-from-a-living-
cell/
or 考古下买卖提的旧贴
Biology版 - 哪位能科普一下ZHUANG的单分子荧光
muduo
2012-03-17 22:32:15
http://www.weiming.info/zhuti/Biology/31646749/
or
Biology版 - 业内人士来说说single molecule吧
ilovebmw
2011-12-06 01:04:37
http://www.weiming.info/zhuti/Biology/31611331/
or
Biology版 - ms小亮要评院士了？！
popeye1983
2011-04-28
http://ipv6.weiming.info/zhuti/Biology/31510275/
the
set
about
【在 x*******t 的大作中提到】
: i think innovation should be related to what i am going to study, cause the
: approaches are all common in this field (but i agree not all the lab can set
: up all the assays....). Saying something that my study can solve the
: molecular mechanism of xxx field and also provide detailed information about
: xxx disease would be important for the innovation part. right?
: thanks for your suggestion,
:
: not
|
s****9
发帖数: 932 | 15 Depends on different people's study. In my boss's proposal, significance +
innovation are almost 3 pages. He incorporate many rationale and background
into this part.
not
【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: Innovation should be about your approach? or what you proposed to study?
: The rule as far as I know is that your significant and innovation should not
: be longer than 1.5 pages.
|
p*l
发帖数: 1359 | 16 My significant and innovation is about 2.5 pages.
I like to discuss background, limitations of previous work and remaining
problems in Significant to establish motivation. Innovation is basically
what I want to do and why my way will solve the problem. Approach is just
details. |
