j********i
发帖数: 143 | 1 刚才大致看了一下K99 awards 的历史,发现我们相关的 institute 2011-2012 的
awardee 只有可怜的6个人, 不到以前的一半了, 看来日子越来越难过了. 如果说大部
分学校只考虑 recruit 有 K99 在手的, 那岂不是大部分人都没戏? | c***o
发帖数: 35 | 2 Where do you get the information from?
It's simply not true that most schools only recruit those with K99. In fact,
most candidates in the job market I know in these two years are without K99
. They either had spent more than 5 years postdoc already (but do have
superstrong track records) or too exceptional to miss any job offers
anywhere without grants and thus don't even bother to apply for such grants.
On the other hand, quite many K99 awardees, if you looked at their
publications, are rather mediocre and have very hard time to get interviews
for faculty positions. Of course K99 weighs in, given other things being
roughly equal, but sadly and ironically, K99 is a training grant, and not
really designed for those postdocs with already proven independence. You
wanna this to be changed or not?
【在 j********i 的大作中提到】
: 刚才大致看了一下K99 awards 的历史,发现我们相关的 institute 2011-2012 的
: awardee 只有可怜的6个人, 不到以前的一半了, 看来日子越来越难过了. 如果说大部
: 分学校只考虑 recruit 有 K99 在手的, 那岂不是大部分人都没戏?
| r****t
发帖数: 10904 | 3 认识 K99 都还没找到的。
【在 j********i 的大作中提到】
: 刚才大致看了一下K99 awards 的历史,发现我们相关的 institute 2011-2012 的
: awardee 只有可怜的6个人, 不到以前的一半了, 看来日子越来越难过了. 如果说大部
: 分学校只考虑 recruit 有 K99 在手的, 那岂不是大部分人都没戏?
| j********i
发帖数: 143 | 4 Our department recruited two junior faculties last year and both of them are
K99 awardees. I heard the similar story from several other descent schools.
fact,
K99
grants.
interviews
【在 c***o 的大作中提到】
: Where do you get the information from?
: It's simply not true that most schools only recruit those with K99. In fact,
: most candidates in the job market I know in these two years are without K99
: . They either had spent more than 5 years postdoc already (but do have
: superstrong track records) or too exceptional to miss any job offers
: anywhere without grants and thus don't even bother to apply for such grants.
: On the other hand, quite many K99 awardees, if you looked at their
: publications, are rather mediocre and have very hard time to get interviews
: for faculty positions. Of course K99 weighs in, given other things being
: roughly equal, but sadly and ironically, K99 is a training grant, and not
| p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 5 这个你可能biased了，你们那里肯定不会care K99的，就像我之前学校一样。但是n多
的公立学校中游学校还真是没这个不行，这个我已经听不同学校的不少faculty强调过
了。很多地方没有K99压根就不会发interivew,大家都缺钱啊。
反过来说candidate也一样，top candidate肯定是不在乎这个的，没有也有人要。但是
中游的candidate这个就起很大作用了。
fact,
K99
grants.
interviews
【在 c***o 的大作中提到】
: Where do you get the information from?
: It's simply not true that most schools only recruit those with K99. In fact,
: most candidates in the job market I know in these two years are without K99
: . They either had spent more than 5 years postdoc already (but do have
: superstrong track records) or too exceptional to miss any job offers
: anywhere without grants and thus don't even bother to apply for such grants.
: On the other hand, quite many K99 awardees, if you looked at their
: publications, are rather mediocre and have very hard time to get interviews
: for faculty positions. Of course K99 weighs in, given other things being
: roughly equal, but sadly and ironically, K99 is a training grant, and not
| s******y
发帖数: 28562 | 6 对，特别牛的不缺钱的学校（比方说那几个私立名校）可能不care,
但是一大群20名之后的公立学校对此还是非常敏感的。
而且，有没有K99 和candidate 的水平虽然不是完全的相应关系，但是还是有
一定正向的相关关系的吧？
不过，没有K99不等于就一定没有希望了。只要你有足够强的研究，并能说服
对方你以后能够为系里拉到钱，还是可以的。
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】
: 这个你可能biased了，你们那里肯定不会care K99的，就像我之前学校一样。但是n多
: 的公立学校中游学校还真是没这个不行，这个我已经听不同学校的不少faculty强调过
: 了。很多地方没有K99压根就不会发interivew,大家都缺钱啊。
: 反过来说candidate也一样，top candidate肯定是不在乎这个的，没有也有人要。但是
: 中游的candidate这个就起很大作用了。
:
: fact,
: K99
: grants.
: interviews
| c***o
发帖数: 35 | 7 一大群20名之后的公立学校...are they really mainstream recruiters?
I am indeed biased when talking about "most schools".
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 对，特别牛的不缺钱的学校（比方说那几个私立名校）可能不care,
: 但是一大群20名之后的公立学校对此还是非常敏感的。
: 而且，有没有K99 和candidate 的水平虽然不是完全的相应关系，但是还是有
: 一定正向的相关关系的吧？
: 不过，没有K99不等于就一定没有希望了。只要你有足够强的研究，并能说服
: 对方你以后能够为系里拉到钱，还是可以的。
| s******y
发帖数: 28562 | 8 呵呵，这个得看你站在什么角度看问题了。
不过，有钱的私立名校的确是几乎不看有没有K99的。
【在 c***o 的大作中提到】
: 一大群20名之后的公立学校...are they really mainstream recruiters?
: I am indeed biased when talking about "most schools".
| y******6
发帖数: 60 | 9 personal experience, most medical schools don't care about K99. they care
about your independence and research directions. |
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