s*******b
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BEIJING—Ever since neuroscientist Rao Yi moved from Northwestern
University
Feinberg School of Medicine in Chicago, Illinois, to become dean of
life
sciences at Peking University (Beida) here in 2007, he has been in the
spotlight for his outspoken criticism of China's research culture. On 17
August, Rao dropped his latest bombshell. After the Chinese Academy of
Sciences (CAS) published a list of 145 candidates who had advanced to
the
next round of elections for the coveted status of academician, or
yuanshi,
it was evident that Rao's name had been dropped. Rao posted a blog
posthaste
announcing he would never again stand for academician elections.
Yang Xiongli, a neuroscientist at Fudan University in Shanghai and a
yuanshi
, says he was surprised that Rao had been voted off the list by CAS
members
in the life sciences division. Although Yang says he respects Rao's
“never
again” pledge, he does not think it's a “rational and wise reaction by a
mature scientist.” Biochemist Wang Xiaodong, who in 2004 was elected at
age
41 as a member of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and returned to
China last year, stood up for Rao, saying CAS will harm its own
reputation
if it rejects qualified but outspoken scientists.
Rao has never pulled his punches. Last September, he and biophysicist
Shi
Yigong, who returned in 2008 from Princeton University to become dean of
life sciences at Beijing's other top-shelf college, Tsinghua University,
authored an editorial in Science (3 September 2010, p. 1128) contending
that
China's funding system “wastes resources, corrupts the spirit, and
stymies
innovation.” Earlier this month, Rao generated controversy over his
provocative suggestion that researchers in Taiwan should identify
themselves
when collaborating with mainland scientists as being in “Taiwan,
China,”
rather than “Taiwan, Republic of China (ROC),” as many do. Rao defended
both decisions in a recent interview, edited here for brevity and
clarity.
Q:What do you make of being eliminated in the first round of this year's
yuanshi election?
R.Y.:Even though I won't be a yuanshi candidate again, I don't advocate
abolishing the system. The academician system provides a balance to the
bureaucracy; at least when academicians speak, administrators listen.
Yuanshi elections are largely fair. CAS members are quite independent,
and
it's not easy to influence their votes. The yuanshi system is not the
problem. The problem is with Chinese culture, which values official
titles
above all else, so a lifelong title of academician is sought after by
many,
including officials.
Q:You felt strongly that you and other Chinese scientists faced some
kind of
racial discrimination in the United States. Is this exclusion a form of
discrimination, too?
R.Y.:Racial discrimination is in spite of what you do. But in China, the
treatment meted out to me is because of what I do. That's very
different. I
have a choice: I can choose to brownnose people, to give up all
principles,
and to do whatever people like rather than what I think is right. Then I
get
everything other people think I should get: higher positions, awards,
and
honors.
I have been going against the “Chinese” stereotype. Some people say I am
Americanized, but I consider that a racist expression, because it
assumes
Chinese are quiet, unthinking, and just do the experiments they are told
to
do. I am quite the opposite. I try to treat everybody the same way,
whether
they are my superiors or subordinates, whether they are Chinese or non-
Chinese.
Q:Let's turn to Taiwan and the scientific paper controversy. Have you
exceeded your authority by asking co-authors such as Ann-Shyn Chiang to
change their address rather than go with convention?
R.Y.:Because I am the corresponding author and have to sign off on the
paper
, I care about every single word in it. … If I follow what others do,
then
I am no different from others. You cannot tell me because convention
exists
so I should follow convention. Because it's their policy that only
“Taiwan
” or “Taiwan, ROC,” could be used in their addresses, I wanted to know
whether the policy could be modified, so I wrote to Lou-Chuang Lee
[minister
of Taiwan's National Science Council]. But it was only an inquiry from
a
scientist to a fellow scientist.
Q:Some say you insisted on the use of “Taiwan, China,” to curry favor
with
the Chinese government.
R.Y.:I never curry favor with any government, and officialdom does not
appeal to me. After I announced that I would not stand for academician
elections again, I offered to resign the deanship of Beida's school of
life
sciences. A nonacademician dean might harm the opportunities of its
faculty
members who aspire to become yuanshi some day. But Beida didn't accept
my
offer.
Q:Are you disappointed with the system?
R.Y.:I am still positive about Chinese science and education. My
university
has always supported me. Leaders of the country have supported [me and
other
scientists who recently returned]. … I made the right decision to
return.
Some say my failure to be elected a yuanshi may deter other established
scientists from coming back. I would say to them that coming back is
more
exciting than staying in the West. I am posting a proposal in my blog to
challenge current and future yuanshi in life sciences, who have similar
educational and research experiences as I, to see who will make
significant
contributions to his or her field over the next decade. I do this in the
hope that scientists better than I get elected yuanshi in the future. | o**d
发帖数: 3080 | | j*****d
发帖数: 787 | 3 周期风很爱惜人才嘛
R.Y.:I never curry favor with any government, and officialdom does not
appeal to me. After I announced that I would not stand for academician
elections again, I offered to resign the deanship of Beida's school of
life sciences. A nonacademician dean might harm the opportunities of its
faculty members who aspire to become yuanshi some day.
But Beida didn't accept my offer.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~哈哈哈，他当时似乎又想做一次甩手柜台。
【在 s*******b 的大作中提到】
: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/333/6048/1368.full?sid=841389
: 4cd4-a292-75696d5fea7c
: BEIJING—Ever since neuroscientist Rao Yi moved from Northwestern
: University
: Feinberg School of Medicine in Chicago, Illinois, to become dean of
: life
: sciences at Peking University (Beida) here in 2007, he has been in the
: spotlight for his outspoken criticism of China's research culture. On 17
: August, Rao dropped his latest bombshell. After the Chinese Academy of
: Sciences (CAS) published a list of 145 candidates who had advanced to
| l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 4 饶这人品，没得到自己想要的东西就撂挑子、威胁上级没这个头衔就不干了。
－－－
After I announced that I would not stand for academician
elections again, I offered to resign the deanship of Beida's school of
life sciences. A nonacademician dean might harm the opportunities of its
faculty members who aspire to become yuanshi some day.
But Beida didn't accept my offer. | n*****n
发帖数: 3123 | | p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 6 我说哥们 每次上来造rao的谣言被大嘴巴子抽得山响你也乐此不疲啊？你是不是有受虐
倾向？
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】
: 饶这人品，没得到自己想要的东西就撂挑子、威胁上级没这个头衔就不干了。
: －－－
: After I announced that I would not stand for academician
: elections again, I offered to resign the deanship of Beida's school of
: life sciences. A nonacademician dean might harm the opportunities of its
: faculty members who aspire to become yuanshi some day.
: But Beida didn't accept my offer.
| l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 7 你才成天造谣了。我说的有关饶的事情只要真在美国认识饶的人都知道是真的。
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】
: 我说哥们 每次上来造rao的谣言被大嘴巴子抽得山响你也乐此不疲啊？你是不是有受虐
: 倾向？
| p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 8 lol 你就继续扯 等着被人扇吧 反正看起来你也很享受的样子。。
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】
: 你才成天造谣了。我说的有关饶的事情只要真在美国认识饶的人都知道是真的。
| l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 9 你就继续把饶当神吧。人家自己都知道是灰溜溜的自己跑了。
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】
: lol 你就继续扯 等着被人扇吧 反正看起来你也很享受的样子。。
| p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 10 一个在你嘴里被迫走人形同开除的人 现在都还是西北的adjunct professor,拜托你的
谣言能不能编的稍微有点模样？当然这个可能难为你的智商了
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】
: 你就继续把饶当神吧。人家自己都知道是灰溜溜的自己跑了。
| l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 11 我前老板被踢走，还adjunct professor挂了两年，现在还在美国某不错的大学医学院
做系主任。
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】
: 一个在你嘴里被迫走人形同开除的人 现在都还是西北的adjunct professor,拜托你的
: 谣言能不能编的稍微有点模样？当然这个可能难为你的智商了
| l****y
发帖数: 169 | 12 造什么谣了？这不是饶毅自己说地吗？真有那么清高，不当回事，辞什么职啊？然后还
拿出来说。
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】
: 我说哥们 每次上来造rao的谣言被大嘴巴子抽得山响你也乐此不疲啊？你是不是有受虐
: 倾向？
| p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 13 造什么谣你自己去考古lmh经常说什么就行了
【在 l****y 的大作中提到】
: 造什么谣了？这不是饶毅自己说地吗？真有那么清高，不当回事，辞什么职啊？然后还
: 拿出来说。
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