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发帖数: 4845 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Faculty 讨论区 】
发信人: Alicetadie (missip), 信区: Faculty
标 题: 这才是招聘者的角度看法
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 22 14:09:29 2011, 美东)
How (not) to hire an assistant professor
First the search is opened. Several professors in a department are appointed
to form the search committee, and the job is advertised on the department
web site and other locations.
Then the applications come in– maybe 200 or so for one advertised position.
Since faculty live busy lives, they do not actually read all these
application packets in detail. Rather, they sort into three piles. The first
pile is for clearly unqualified candidates– meaning those with too few
papers, from unknown universities, or both. Then there is the second pile,
of "promising" candidates. These come from top schools, have lots of
publications, and (preferably) have recommendation letters from famous
professors, some of whom (possibly) are former students or former advisors
of the search committee members. "After all, you trust the people you know!"
The third pile is for everyone else. They may be good; they may not be. Who
knows? These applications get only a brief glance. Some universities will
require (or encourage) the committee to go through that pile again, taking a
second look at the women or minority candidates to see if they could be
moved to the "promising" pile.
Five or so of the promising candidates are then invited to campus for
interviews. Each candidate will give a departmental seminar and have
scheduled half-hour meetings with up to 10 or 12 faculty. Often, one or two
will totally screw up the interview by either alienating an important
faculty member. Or they will appear to have no idea of what their research
program will be if given the job. Certain faculty also regard Interviewing
While Pregnant (IWP, let’s say) as screwing up. And certain faculty also
think that any women or minorities on the interview list just got stuck
there as token candidates due to the completely unfair practice of taking a
second look at the applications and/or due to All That Pressure the Dean is
Putting On Us These Days to Hire More Women.
Meanwhile, the Famous Recommendation Letter Writers from other universities
are calling the search committee and/or department chair on the phone to
advocate for their candidate, his/her brilliance, and the tremendous topical
importance of his/her field (also the field of Famous Recommendation Letter
Writer). The workings of Departmental Politics go forward, and at the end of
the day, the search committee somehow ranks the candidates in order of
preference. The top candidate is advanced to the full departmental faculty
for an "up-or-down vote," as they say about Supreme Court nomination
hearings.
Here, something interesting happens, for Number One is often the superstar
of the year. S/he has seven papers in the last two years, four of which are
in Nature or Science. S/he has degrees from Top Five institutions in the
field, recommendations from super famous people, and appears to be
brilliant. Most importantly, s/he is working on exactly the research field
that EVERYONE WANTS, because it is new and hot and getting lots of funding.
And so Number One also comes in on the top of the list at six other
universities, and can have the pick of them all.
Number One can only take one job. But that doesn’t mean that Numbers Two
through Six necessarily have a chance. Nope. A department is not obligated
to hire anyone. And if they are not in a hurry, and if their Number Two
choice pales in comparison to the brilliance of Number One (or Three to Two,
etc. etc) they may just not fill the position this year at all. This has
happened to several people I know– they landed interview slots at three or
four universities, but didn’t end up with job offers from any of them.
http://drshellie.blogsome.com/2006/04/23/how-to-hire-an-assista | O******e
发帖数: 4845 | 2 残酷的真实啊。。。
appointed
position.
【在 O******e 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Faculty 讨论区 】
: 发信人: Alicetadie (missip), 信区: Faculty
: 标 题: 这才是招聘者的角度看法
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 22 14:09:29 2011, 美东)
: How (not) to hire an assistant professor
: First the search is opened. Several professors in a department are appointed
: to form the search committee, and the job is advertised on the department
: web site and other locations.
: Then the applications come in– maybe 200 or so for one advertised position.
: Since faculty live busy lives, they do not actually read all these
| p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 3 zan 怪不得过去几年来我们这interview的伙计们很多最后都land到tier 3以下的学校
。。
appointed
position.
【在 O******e 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Faculty 讨论区 】
: 发信人: Alicetadie (missip), 信区: Faculty
: 标 题: 这才是招聘者的角度看法
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 22 14:09:29 2011, 美东)
: How (not) to hire an assistant professor
: First the search is opened. Several professors in a department are appointed
: to form the search committee, and the job is advertised on the department
: web site and other locations.
: Then the applications come in– maybe 200 or so for one advertised position.
: Since faculty live busy lives, they do not actually read all these
| h****u
发帖数: 480 | 4
appointed
department
position.
first
This has been the case for the last 20 years. I am surprised that it's
not common knowledge.
【在 O******e 的大作中提到】
: 残酷的真实啊。。。
:
: appointed
: position.
| O******e
发帖数: 4845 | 5 这个常识，恐怕只有很少的人知道得这么清楚吧。
【在 h****u 的大作中提到】
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: appointed
: department
: position.
: first
: This has been the case for the last 20 years. I am surprised that it's
: not common knowledge.
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