z*******g
发帖数: 2429 | 1 捂着鼻子跌跌撞撞的样子好痛苦，后来也流血了。
后来裁判怎么判的？当时没看到。 |
S****s
发帖数: 11288 | |
c****9
发帖数: 5402 | |
m********s
发帖数: 55301 | 4 无意。
类似6岁小孩用足球鞋铲了你脚踝一脚，就不算故意犯规。
但如果换成德国的拉姆铲你一脚，至少黄牌。
【在 z*******g 的大作中提到】
: 捂着鼻子跌跌撞撞的样子好痛苦，后来也流血了。
: 后来裁判怎么判的？当时没看到。
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c******g
发帖数: 2323 | 5 No. LBJ sold it well. But ref were not buying. Looks like he had a
concussion or broken nose. LOL |
O****N
发帖数: 1458 | 6
一般犯规 其实还好了
【在 z*******g 的大作中提到】
: 捂着鼻子跌跌撞撞的样子好痛苦，后来也流血了。
: 后来裁判怎么判的？当时没看到。
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c********g
发帖数: 447 | |
b******9
发帖数: 2706 | 8 出血了。坐在bench上时捂脸的毛巾上很明显有血。不过这个就是个hard foul，没必要
过度解读。 |
q**x
发帖数: 1636 | 9 算flagrant，但是裁判没给判。判了的话，勇士直接就跪了。因为没有内线了就。
【在 z*******g 的大作中提到】
: 捂着鼻子跌跌撞撞的样子好痛苦，后来也流血了。
: 后来裁判怎么判的？当时没看到。
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m********s
发帖数: 55301 | 10 这要是老北京拍到咖喱鼻子上会咋样？
骨折？
【在 q**x 的大作中提到】
: 算flagrant，但是裁判没给判。判了的话，勇士直接就跪了。因为没有内线了就。
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q**x
发帖数: 1636 | 11 估计就送医了吧。骨折很有可能。他们两个武力值差别太大了。
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: 这要是老北京拍到咖喱鼻子上会咋样？
: 骨折？
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b******9
发帖数: 2706 | 12 这个为什么要算flagrant...
【在 q**x 的大作中提到】
: 算flagrant，但是裁判没给判。判了的话，勇士直接就跪了。因为没有内线了就。
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S****a
发帖数: 2568 | 13 因为摸了蟹黄？
【在 b******9 的大作中提到】
: 这个为什么要算flagrant...
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v*****k
发帖数: 7798 | 14 理论上打到脖子以上自动恶意。当然是理论上
这个为什么要算flagrant...
【在 b******9 的大作中提到】
: 这个为什么要算flagrant...
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q**x
发帖数: 1636 | 15 nba rule:
There are two types of Flagrant Fouls, as follows:
Flagrant "1" (FFP1) - unnecessary contact committed by a player against an
opponent. The opposing team is awarded two (2) free throws and possession.
Flagrant "2" (FFP2) - unnecessary and excessive contact committed by a
player against an opponent. The opposing team is awarded two (2) free throws
and possession and the player committing the foul is automatically ejected.
wikipedia term:
In basketball, a flagrant foul is a serious personal foul. A foul is
considered flagrant when it involves excessive or violent contact that could
injure the fouled player. A flagrant foul may be unintentional or
purposeful; the latter type is simultaneously known as an "intentional foul"
in the NCAA. However, most intentional fouls are not considered "flagrant"
and are performed safely as a necessity for time management.
The NBA flagrant foul rule was enacted in the 1990s as an attempt to deter
contact which, in addition to being against the rules, puts an opponent's
safety and health at risk. According to the NBA rulebook, it applies to
contact that puts safety and health at risk.
The NBA defines two levels of flagrant fouls, typically referred to as "
Flagrant 1" and "Flagrant 2". Referees have discretion in determining which
level to call, but the primary distinction is that a Flagrant 2 results in
the immediate ejection of the offender. A player who receives two Flagrant 1
fouls in a single game is also ejected upon the second foul.
video here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSQn_NSJ4C8
the motion of full arm downward swing was not necessary at all. if green
wants to defense the ball, he would aim high to block the ball and would try
to keep his hand in front of the ball. instead, he did 1) full body contact
with James. 2)left arm push down/drag james 3) right arm swing hard
downward on james. you may argue that green was going for the ball. but, he
knew he would not be able to block the ball. so he gave the hard foul with
or without intention to hurt james. since he gave the hard foul, he takes
the risk of being called on flagrant foul. the refs did not rule the foul as
flagrant, so he got away without it. different views on the same foul are
common. i think it should be called flagrant foul. such
hard foul was very dangerous (side impact on player while in the air and
apparently face
slapping occurred) and could easily cause fighting or cause serious injuries
. imagine what would happen if it's curry instead of james and it's mosgov
instread of green. of course, mosgov would not foul like that for sure.
【在 b******9 的大作中提到】
: 这个为什么要算flagrant...
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m********s
发帖数: 55301 | 16 所以处罚轻重的标准不在于违规者做了什么动作，而在于被违规者受的伤有多严重。
【在 q**x 的大作中提到】
: 估计就送医了吧。骨折很有可能。他们两个武力值差别太大了。
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N******s
发帖数: 10555 | 17 主要还和被侵犯的人身价有关，
要是小白被人这样K一下，谁都不care
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: 所以处罚轻重的标准不在于违规者做了什么动作，而在于被违规者受的伤有多严重。
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m********s
发帖数: 55301 | 18 我在本楼4层已经阐述过了。
【在 N******s 的大作中提到】
: 主要还和被侵犯的人身价有关，
: 要是小白被人这样K一下，谁都不care
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b******9
发帖数: 2706 | 19 就事论事：打球时如果你要企图盖帽，而且想好了即使盖不了也要犯规不给easy
bucket，手臂下挥是个正常动作啊，怎么能说是不必要或多余呢。 这个球格林很明显
是冲着球去的， 只是下手很重。 算common foul我觉得可以接受。
不过格林这厮很招人恨，估计在克城第一节会两犯下场。
throws
ejected.
could
【在 q**x 的大作中提到】
: nba rule:
: There are two types of Flagrant Fouls, as follows:
: Flagrant "1" (FFP1) - unnecessary contact committed by a player against an
: opponent. The opposing team is awarded two (2) free throws and possession.
: Flagrant "2" (FFP2) - unnecessary and excessive contact committed by a
: player against an opponent. The opposing team is awarded two (2) free throws
: and possession and the player committing the foul is automatically ejected.
: wikipedia term:
: In basketball, a flagrant foul is a serious personal foul. A foul is
: considered flagrant when it involves excessive or violent contact that could
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q**x
发帖数: 1636 | 20 welcome to the discussion. agree it's a hard foul. It can be viewed either
way. agree that "算common foul可以接受".
【在 b******9 的大作中提到】
: 就事论事：打球时如果你要企图盖帽，而且想好了即使盖不了也要犯规不给easy
: bucket，手臂下挥是个正常动作啊，怎么能说是不必要或多余呢。 这个球格林很明显
: 是冲着球去的， 只是下手很重。 算common foul我觉得可以接受。
: 不过格林这厮很招人恨，估计在克城第一节会两犯下场。
:
: throws
: ejected.
: could
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G****y
发帖数: 3537 | 21 这个球肯定是个HARD FOUL，DIRTY FOUL先, 属于打不到球但也要把你人打下去那种。
觉得这样的犯规应该判严一点，因为很可能会意外伤人，所以不能太放纵这样的犯规。
另外，这个HARD FOUL是打到对方的脸部了，所以应该是可以升级为F1了。
这样的犯规放在小个身上，真是可能被一下打摔到地上了。 |
d**********t
发帖数: 20415 | 22 这球吹不吹F都有道理，直播反复回放了这个球，green的手掌有一个翻转动作，所以判
断还是冲着球去的，如果冲人去，手掌完全不用翻就直接拍上去了，那下力道确实挺大
的，green本身就是扑过去的，LBJ是迎面快速冲过去，基本是结结实实的一掌
【在 G****y 的大作中提到】
: 这个球肯定是个HARD FOUL，DIRTY FOUL先, 属于打不到球但也要把你人打下去那种。
: 觉得这样的犯规应该判严一点，因为很可能会意外伤人，所以不能太放纵这样的犯规。
: 另外，这个HARD FOUL是打到对方的脸部了，所以应该是可以升级为F1了。
: 这样的犯规放在小个身上，真是可能被一下打摔到地上了。
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l**p
发帖数: 6080 | 23 从上往下使劲儿拍的没有不是故意的
基本就是打不到球也拍你一下子让你失去平衡
【在 d**********t 的大作中提到】
: 这球吹不吹F都有道理，直播反复回放了这个球，green的手掌有一个翻转动作，所以判
: 断还是冲着球去的，如果冲人去，手掌完全不用翻就直接拍上去了，那下力道确实挺大
: 的，green本身就是扑过去的，LBJ是迎面快速冲过去，基本是结结实实的一掌
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