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话题: sas话题: lin话题: race话题: he话题: does
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T***c
发帖数: 17256
1
even if lin got benched--which I highly doubt, does that have anything
related to race?
even if the new coach hated Lin--which I highly doubt too, at least I don't
think he's that stupid, does that have anything to do with race?
even if melo hated Lin--which is possible but I still need to see some solid
proof, does that have anything to do with race?
plz enlighten me...
D********n
发帖数: 1595
2
who said it was because of race? or you were just imagining that's what
people meant?

t
solid

【在 T***c 的大作中提到】
: even if lin got benched--which I highly doubt, does that have anything
: related to race?
: even if the new coach hated Lin--which I highly doubt too, at least I don't
: think he's that stupid, does that have anything to do with race?
: even if melo hated Lin--which is possible but I still need to see some solid
: proof, does that have anything to do with race?
: plz enlighten me...

u********r
发帖数: 2525
3
这就是阶级斗争,什么都得上纲上线
SAS夸了林不少,前几天说了一句who cares他就是一个普通的队员,我们就会上升到黑
人和
华人之间宗族的问题,根本不用去考虑是不是有黑人说过林好,一律统一为,这帮四肢
发达
头脑简单的东西,他们不配理解篮球。说道种族歧视,看看板上这些帖子这才是种族歧视
赤裸裸的。。。

t
solid

【在 T***c 的大作中提到】
: even if lin got benched--which I highly doubt, does that have anything
: related to race?
: even if the new coach hated Lin--which I highly doubt too, at least I don't
: think he's that stupid, does that have anything to do with race?
: even if melo hated Lin--which is possible but I still need to see some solid
: proof, does that have anything to do with race?
: plz enlighten me...

T***c
发帖数: 17256
4
there's enough post recently related lin and NYK to race, if u didn't see it
, well, it's not my fault

【在 D********n 的大作中提到】
: who said it was because of race? or you were just imagining that's what
: people meant?
:
: t
: solid

r***k
发帖数: 13586
5
Race问题是林的推特上出来的,和教练无关。
C******s
发帖数: 81
6
what ? SAS 啥时候说过lin的好话, 他嘴上的lin 是DL球员。 你真的听过SAS的评论
吗? 他连 melo 都不怎么夸,怎么可能夸 lin。

歧视

【在 u********r 的大作中提到】
: 这就是阶级斗争,什么都得上纲上线
: SAS夸了林不少,前几天说了一句who cares他就是一个普通的队员,我们就会上升到黑
: 人和
: 华人之间宗族的问题,根本不用去考虑是不是有黑人说过林好,一律统一为,这帮四肢
: 发达
: 头脑简单的东西,他们不配理解篮球。说道种族歧视,看看板上这些帖子这才是种族歧视
: 赤裸裸的。。。
:
: t
: solid

t**********r
发帖数: 2019
7
我觉得和race有毛关系。真有的话也是看中背后的华人市场而多给机会,就像易建联对
着椅子打球也能拿6号秀。

t
solid

【在 T***c 的大作中提到】
: even if lin got benched--which I highly doubt, does that have anything
: related to race?
: even if the new coach hated Lin--which I highly doubt too, at least I don't
: think he's that stupid, does that have anything to do with race?
: even if melo hated Lin--which is possible but I still need to see some solid
: proof, does that have anything to do with race?
: plz enlighten me...

u********r
发帖数: 2525
8
好,你知道他连melo都不夸不叫种族歧视
不夸林就是种族歧视

【在 C******s 的大作中提到】
: what ? SAS 啥时候说过lin的好话, 他嘴上的lin 是DL球员。 你真的听过SAS的评论
: 吗? 他连 melo 都不怎么夸,怎么可能夸 lin。
:
: 歧视

C******s
发帖数: 81
9
不过SAS 对林是很mean, 至于是不是种族歧视我还不清楚。他对melo是恨铁不成刚。
两回事。 SAS并不希望看到 Linsanity, 这个是肯定的。 即使 lin 7连胜的时候,他
也很 mean

【在 u********r 的大作中提到】
: 好,你知道他连melo都不夸不叫种族歧视
: 不夸林就是种族歧视

T***c
发帖数: 17256
10
check SAS's rap sheet, u'll find he's mean to 90% of players....



【在 C******s 的大作中提到】
: 不过SAS 对林是很mean, 至于是不是种族歧视我还不清楚。他对melo是恨铁不成刚。
: 两回事。 SAS并不希望看到 Linsanity, 这个是肯定的。 即使 lin 7连胜的时候,他
: 也很 mean

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现在想想,火箭不是真的想小林来来来,读报了,请注意marc berman行文的口气
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u********r
发帖数: 2525
11
比如说,巴克利和奥尼尔都夸林,约翰逊也夸,然后sas很mean,就是种族歧视
巴克利奥尼尔没有,但是sas有种族歧视,是这个意思?
然后我们要回过头来统一说,这些老黑啊,懂什么啊,抗议谴责他们
而不去说sas这个人就是电视台付钱让他出来骂人的,其实你看他扮演的角色
就是要说话狠。。。



【在 C******s 的大作中提到】
: 不过SAS 对林是很mean, 至于是不是种族歧视我还不清楚。他对melo是恨铁不成刚。
: 两回事。 SAS并不希望看到 Linsanity, 这个是肯定的。 即使 lin 7连胜的时候,他
: 也很 mean

u********r
发帖数: 2525
12
没人看的,但是他只要敢说林,就是种族歧视
他这个人说白了,之所以能出来做节目要的就是这个效果,他对谁都不留情的

【在 T***c 的大作中提到】
: check SAS's rap sheet, u'll find he's mean to 90% of players....
:
: 。

C******s
发帖数: 81
13
所以我说我不知道他是不是种族主义者, 时间太短,lin要能证明自己一个赛季再说。
but he is mean.

【在 T***c 的大作中提到】
: check SAS's rap sheet, u'll find he's mean to 90% of players....
:
: 。

T***c
发帖数: 17256
14
I used to call him "the us mean version of Han qiaosheng", but kinda like
him after a while. Lin aside, SAS does make sense most of time, and does
have very strong background in us basketball world. most importantly, he
KNOWS NBA.

【在 C******s 的大作中提到】
: 所以我说我不知道他是不是种族主义者, 时间太短,lin要能证明自己一个赛季再说。
: but he is mean.

s******r
发帖数: 21961
15
Race problem is in the heart, if u cannot see means you have problem of EQ.
black ppl dont like asian is traditional. i am not talking about individual,
on the big pic asian has the least social respect in USA, worse than black/
spanish community.
会哭的孩子有奶吃!你自己觉得克制理智是美德,但是在社会中不见得对自己有利。
大家来美国都不短了,都知道老美的习惯是得寸进尺,你只有speak out loudly才能制
止他们。一定要到damage发生后才说吗?防患于未然。
C******s
发帖数: 81
16
我比较认同lin自己说的Stereotype, 黑人一般认为亚洲人的体力不适合打篮球,能力
和天赋没有办法和黑人媲美。 lin 基本已经证明自己可以打 NBA, SAS 仍然坚持 lin
不过是 DL 水平, 这个属于什么心态我不知道。对于一个年轻的二年级球员 SAS mean
的有些莫名其妙。不过lin 本身 缺点明显,所以被人黑也正常。最搞笑的SAS 说自己
是 knicks 的fans ,NYC长大,KNICKS 半个世纪没有拿过 NBA 冠军,感觉很shame,
所以后来他一句 who cares , 我表示不能理解。 Knicks fans 咋会不关心 Knicks
的球员?
不过叫唤最凶种族歧视的是黑人,这个基本没啥异议吧。

【在 u********r 的大作中提到】
: 比如说,巴克利和奥尼尔都夸林,约翰逊也夸,然后sas很mean,就是种族歧视
: 巴克利奥尼尔没有,但是sas有种族歧视,是这个意思?
: 然后我们要回过头来统一说,这些老黑啊,懂什么啊,抗议谴责他们
: 而不去说sas这个人就是电视台付钱让他出来骂人的,其实你看他扮演的角色
: 就是要说话狠。。。
:
: 。

m******s
发帖数: 8493
17
恩,你也不能证伪。。
--方舟子说

t
solid

【在 T***c 的大作中提到】
: even if lin got benched--which I highly doubt, does that have anything
: related to race?
: even if the new coach hated Lin--which I highly doubt too, at least I don't
: think he's that stupid, does that have anything to do with race?
: even if melo hated Lin--which is possible but I still need to see some solid
: proof, does that have anything to do with race?
: plz enlighten me...

m******s
发帖数: 8493
18
恩。SAS most time is ok.but sometimes he want to show his unique,
he will put something strange out sometimes.
btw, if u check comments under Lin related articles now, more 'chink' show
up,kind of annoying.

【在 T***c 的大作中提到】
: I used to call him "the us mean version of Han qiaosheng", but kinda like
: him after a while. Lin aside, SAS does make sense most of time, and does
: have very strong background in us basketball world. most importantly, he
: KNOWS NBA.

w********o
发帖数: 1621
19
Discrimination or not, it's just people's state of mind. You can't tell if
he made those comments because of racial discrimination. Neither can you
vouch for his mean comments based on everything but racial discrimination.
There might be merits in SAS or Woodson's statements. But it really leaves
to audiences to perceive whether their conclusions come from pure facts, or
could have come from somewhat stereotype/racial profiling against Asian.
If Jeremy were a bright/humble/smart black young man graduated from Harvard,
I bet SAS would have praised him as if he were the role model and future of
all black kids and probably already felt proud of what Jeremy had achieved
so far without melo. But since he is Asian as a matter of fact, SAS and
Woodson require a lot more evidences than would have been for a black kid to
convince themselves that Jeremy deserves a spot in the lineup of starters.
u********r
发帖数: 2525
20
这么说其实很中肯
就因为你是老中,我得观察一下,说实话这个也正常
毕竟中国这种搞对抗的项目就是不行
篮球不行足球不行橄榄球没有
就出来一个姚明还因为伤病完全没达到应有的高度
如果教练和评论员有疑虑,我完全理解。。。
不是说就是歧视你黄种人玩不了这个,但是统计数据确实没有支持咱,对吧
如果每个队伍里面都有一个打了十年的亚洲球星的话,自然就没有这个疑虑了
但是每个队伍里面都有打了十年的黑人球星,人家会放心一些自然是正常的

or
Harvard,
of
achieved

【在 w********o 的大作中提到】
: Discrimination or not, it's just people's state of mind. You can't tell if
: he made those comments because of racial discrimination. Neither can you
: vouch for his mean comments based on everything but racial discrimination.
: There might be merits in SAS or Woodson's statements. But it really leaves
: to audiences to perceive whether their conclusions come from pure facts, or
: could have come from somewhat stereotype/racial profiling against Asian.
: If Jeremy were a bright/humble/smart black young man graduated from Harvard,
: I bet SAS would have praised him as if he were the role model and future of
: all black kids and probably already felt proud of what Jeremy had achieved
: so far without melo. But since he is Asian as a matter of fact, SAS and

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w********o
发帖数: 1621
21
Evaluate a player not based on his individual statistics, but statistics of
players shared same race? That's exactly what we called 'racial
discrimination' or 'racial profiling'.

【在 u********r 的大作中提到】
: 这么说其实很中肯
: 就因为你是老中,我得观察一下,说实话这个也正常
: 毕竟中国这种搞对抗的项目就是不行
: 篮球不行足球不行橄榄球没有
: 就出来一个姚明还因为伤病完全没达到应有的高度
: 如果教练和评论员有疑虑,我完全理解。。。
: 不是说就是歧视你黄种人玩不了这个,但是统计数据确实没有支持咱,对吧
: 如果每个队伍里面都有一个打了十年的亚洲球星的话,自然就没有这个疑虑了
: 但是每个队伍里面都有打了十年的黑人球星,人家会放心一些自然是正常的
:

T***c
发帖数: 17256
22
speak out loudly doesn't mean "speak out loudly on anything and everything"
, u gotta pick ur fight smartly. like the espn sucker, we definitely should try everytying to get him fired. but on the start/bench/play time or some other on curt issue, I don't think directly jumping into shouting "racism" is a smart move.
one big reason if not biggest that asian has worst respect is, we just too
few, we don't have enough population to make our voice count.
thus, make love, no war!!!

individual,
black/

【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: Race problem is in the heart, if u cannot see means you have problem of EQ.
: black ppl dont like asian is traditional. i am not talking about individual,
: on the big pic asian has the least social respect in USA, worse than black/
: spanish community.
: 会哭的孩子有奶吃!你自己觉得克制理智是美德,但是在社会中不见得对自己有利。
: 大家来美国都不短了,都知道老美的习惯是得寸进尺,你只有speak out loudly才能制
: 止他们。一定要到damage发生后才说吗?防患于未然。

e***t
发帖数: 14386
23
他就是要跟skip唱反调而已
当然大妈很激动,指着他鼻子骂,也是自然并符合espn利益的

【在 u********r 的大作中提到】
: 比如说,巴克利和奥尼尔都夸林,约翰逊也夸,然后sas很mean,就是种族歧视
: 巴克利奥尼尔没有,但是sas有种族歧视,是这个意思?
: 然后我们要回过头来统一说,这些老黑啊,懂什么啊,抗议谴责他们
: 而不去说sas这个人就是电视台付钱让他出来骂人的,其实你看他扮演的角色
: 就是要说话狠。。。
:
: 。

m*****a
发帖数: 266
24
没有人说只要他说林,就是种族歧视。看看他说话的内容和口气就知道了。在和melo在
唱双簧呢。
他显然不是对谁都不留情,对黑人兄弟是怒其不争,对其他族裔是how dare you get
into our business. average, just average. 最后再来一句who cares.

【在 u********r 的大作中提到】
: 没人看的,但是他只要敢说林,就是种族歧视
: 他这个人说白了,之所以能出来做节目要的就是这个效果,他对谁都不留情的

m*****a
发帖数: 266
25
what an eye-opening argument this is! could not have imagined the logic
behind this.
few people ==> our voice won't be heard anyway ==> lets' just suck up the
shit and make love and peace with whoever dumped the shit

everything"
should try everytying to get him fired. but on the start/bench/play time or
some other on curt issue, I don't think directly jumping into shouting "
racism" is a smart move.

【在 T***c 的大作中提到】
: speak out loudly doesn't mean "speak out loudly on anything and everything"
: , u gotta pick ur fight smartly. like the espn sucker, we definitely should try everytying to get him fired. but on the start/bench/play time or some other on curt issue, I don't think directly jumping into shouting "racism" is a smart move.
: one big reason if not biggest that asian has worst respect is, we just too
: few, we don't have enough population to make our voice count.
: thus, make love, no war!!!
:
: individual,
: black/

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