r******y
发帖数: 471 | 1 有的黄灯时间确实很短，上个月刚拿了个加起来600多刀的左拐红灯罚单，以后不再担
心了。 庆祝啊。
Los Angeles, California Red Light Camera Program Officially Canceled
Los Angeles, California Red Light Camera Program Officially Canceled
City council votes to take down red light cameras in Los Angeles, California.
Councilman Dennis ZineRed light cameras are coming down in Los Angeles,
California after midnight on Sunday. The city council yesterday voted
unanimously to drop the program primarily over the county court system's
refusal to enforce unpaid tickets, depriving the city of millions in
expected revenue. The council instructed the city attorney to work with
American Traffic Solutions (ATS) to decide the cheapest way to remove the
systems and process all tickets issued through the end of the month.
"We need to be clear about what we are doing here today with this particular
vote," Councilman Dennis P. Zine said. "I don't want to give the wrong
perception to the public that this program may continue in the future. As I
noted, photo red light will be gone in four days. Cameras need to come down
immediately to not create a smokescreen to affect the hope that we may turn
them back on."
Last month, the police commission recommended against renewing the automated
ticketing contract. Council members split evenly on the issue, and the
council's camera supporters had needed at least a majority to overturn the
commission's decision.
"We need to be honest and transparent with this," Zine said. "This program
did not work as anticipated."
Motorists who receive a $476 ticket in the mail from ATS within the next few
days do not need to pay it. Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) officials
testifying before the council confirmed that failure to respond to a
citation has no affect on credit or driving records. The item will go to the
county collections department which will only send a threatening letter and
then a follow up letter.
"That's about the extent of it," LAPD Lieutenant Ron Katona said.
More vigorous opposition to the program came from council members inspired
by Safer Streets LA Executive Director Jay Beeber and Dr. Rhodes Rigsby,
mayor of the city of Loma Linda, who argued that engineering improvements
were more effective than cameras.
"My main objection to this whole thing is that I believe the same safety can
be achieved by signal timing changes," Councilman Paul Koretz said. "I
believe DOT has been pretty resistant to this concept. In budget committee,
we found that DOT was not planning on immediately implementing the measure
that the council had passed twelve to nothing to change the signal timing on
all the signalized intersections [with cameras], plus the additional ones
that were identified as more dangerous.... DOT claims it complies with the
MUTCD, but the times in the manual are minimums."
Los Angeles adds about 0.3 seconds to the bare minimum yellow timing, but
Loma Linda saw a 92 percent reduction in violations upon adding a full
second to the yellow. The pricey photo tickets have been extremely unpopular
throughout Los Angeles. Last month, the Northridge East Neighborhood
Council voted unanimously to tell the city council to drop photo enforcement
. The Sherman Oaks and Valley Alliance neighborhood groups also formally
opposed ticketing.
"No longer will motorists in the nation's second largest city be tagged with
$450 photo tickets for driving maneuvers like rolling right turns that have
essentially no bearing on traffic safety statistics," National Motorists
Association spokesman Gary Biller said. | b*****t
发帖数: 7331 | 2 加州？还是洛杉矶？
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【在 r******y 的大作中提到】
: 有的黄灯时间确实很短，上个月刚拿了个加起来600多刀的左拐红灯罚单，以后不再担
: 心了。 庆祝啊。
: Los Angeles, California Red Light Camera Program Officially Canceled
: Los Angeles, California Red Light Camera Program Officially Canceled
: City council votes to take down red light cameras in Los Angeles, California.
: Councilman Dennis ZineRed light cameras are coming down in Los Angeles,
: California after midnight on Sunday. The city council yesterday voted
: unanimously to drop the program primarily over the county court system's
: refusal to enforce unpaid tickets, depriving the city of millions in
: expected revenue. The council instructed the city attorney to work with
| n**y
发帖数: 11447 | 3 洛杉矶
【在 b*****t 的大作中提到】
: 加州？还是洛杉矶？
:
: California.
: particular
: I
: down
: turn
: automated
: few
: officials
| r******y
发帖数: 471 | | y*d
发帖数: 2226 | 5 LA人开车已然很粗野了
把这个取消了，我以后去LA只敢坐地铁了!
顺便支持一下public transportation! | N****g
发帖数: 5246 | 6 LA的public transportation是不是很差啊
【在 y*d 的大作中提到】
: LA人开车已然很粗野了
: 把这个取消了，我以后去LA只敢坐地铁了!
: 顺便支持一下public transportation!
| z**n
发帖数: 22303 | 7 那帮鸟人都是上了摄像头以后故意把黄灯时间调短的. AZ还要更恶心，除了这个以外，
黄灯过停车线不算数，要过交叉路的直行道的外侧延长线，否则一样会触发摄像机，那
条线一般在停车线再往前5米左右。
美国的乌鸦其实也挺黑的。
California.
【在 r******y 的大作中提到】
: 有的黄灯时间确实很短，上个月刚拿了个加起来600多刀的左拐红灯罚单，以后不再担
: 心了。 庆祝啊。
: Los Angeles, California Red Light Camera Program Officially Canceled
: Los Angeles, California Red Light Camera Program Officially Canceled
: City council votes to take down red light cameras in Los Angeles, California.
: Councilman Dennis ZineRed light cameras are coming down in Los Angeles,
: California after midnight on Sunday. The city council yesterday voted
: unanimously to drop the program primarily over the county court system's
: refusal to enforce unpaid tickets, depriving the city of millions in
: expected revenue. The council instructed the city attorney to work with
| y*d
发帖数: 2226 | 8 我想起刚才chicago的那个人了
怎么他们那的judge就这么操蛋，还搞出个way too late
根LA的人比起来真的是怨啊
LA居然说那个ticket是voluntary交的 | g****s
发帖数: 1755 | 9 兄台说的就是我嘛。
虽然偶这个天上掉下来的红灯Ticket让偶对芝加哥彻底无语，但我还真觉得没红灯的话
交通会更危险。。。。。。
【在 y*d 的大作中提到】
: 我想起刚才chicago的那个人了
: 怎么他们那的judge就这么操蛋，还搞出个way too late
: 根LA的人比起来真的是怨啊
: LA居然说那个ticket是voluntary交的
| i*****t
发帖数: 24265 | 10 essentially no bearing on traffic safety statistics,"
早说了有的stop压根没有必要非停3秒，视野清晰时候就是浪费汽油和时间 | | | n****1
发帖数: 2895 | 11 加州本来就够乱的了，让这帮脑残议员再搞几年估计第九街区的景象会是不久的将来。
在 roddyfly (roddyfly) 的大作中提到: 】
California. | i*****t
发帖数: 24265 | 12 明显目的是为了罚款，而失去了安全警告的意义了。有些警察也黑，乱抄牌子说违章停
车，害的群众浪费时间去法庭打掉，而警察这样罚错单子却不算渎职？
【在 z**n 的大作中提到】
: 那帮鸟人都是上了摄像头以后故意把黄灯时间调短的. AZ还要更恶心，除了这个以外，
: 黄灯过停车线不算数，要过交叉路的直行道的外侧延长线，否则一样会触发摄像机，那
: 条线一般在停车线再往前5米左右。
: 美国的乌鸦其实也挺黑的。
:
: California.
| r******y
发帖数: 471 | 13 There is Red Light. Just no camera...
【在 g****s 的大作中提到】
: 兄台说的就是我嘛。
: 虽然偶这个天上掉下来的红灯Ticket让偶对芝加哥彻底无语，但我还真觉得没红灯的话
: 交通会更危险。。。。。。
| s****i
发帖数: 2993 | | y*****a
发帖数: 580 | 15 be cautious that:
in Houston, the camera program was voted out last year. However, the judge
brought it back not long time ago.
In addition, in the last time, although Houston took away the camera program
, it only applied to the city limit and the boundaries was very irregular.
For example, ppl still got tickets from Jersey Village, Bellaire, West
University,..., which are virtually in ppl's mind of Houston....
But anyway, you can have some relief from their decision at this moment.
California.
【在 r******y 的大作中提到】
: 有的黄灯时间确实很短，上个月刚拿了个加起来600多刀的左拐红灯罚单，以后不再担
: 心了。 庆祝啊。
: Los Angeles, California Red Light Camera Program Officially Canceled
: Los Angeles, California Red Light Camera Program Officially Canceled
: City council votes to take down red light cameras in Los Angeles, California.
: Councilman Dennis ZineRed light cameras are coming down in Los Angeles,
: California after midnight on Sunday. The city council yesterday voted
: unanimously to drop the program primarily over the county court system's
: refusal to enforce unpaid tickets, depriving the city of millions in
: expected revenue. The council instructed the city attorney to work with
| l*b
发帖数: 4369 | 16 是LA city还是county啊
要是county的话还不错，city的话就太小了。
California.
【在 r******y 的大作中提到】
: 有的黄灯时间确实很短，上个月刚拿了个加起来600多刀的左拐红灯罚单，以后不再担
: 心了。 庆祝啊。
: Los Angeles, California Red Light Camera Program Officially Canceled
: Los Angeles, California Red Light Camera Program Officially Canceled
: City council votes to take down red light cameras in Los Angeles, California.
: Councilman Dennis ZineRed light cameras are coming down in Los Angeles,
: California after midnight on Sunday. The city council yesterday voted
: unanimously to drop the program primarily over the county court system's
: refusal to enforce unpaid tickets, depriving the city of millions in
: expected revenue. The council instructed the city attorney to work with
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