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d*******3
发帖数: 148
1
既然 insurance company 有 actuary, 为什么还要交钱给 consulting firm, 让
consulting firm 里的actuary 做pricing, modeling, reserving 呢?
不解。
请教~
s*******0
发帖数: 3461
2
consulting have actuarial auditing
and technique may be better than the traditional insurance company
d*******3
发帖数: 148
3
Thanks, sword!
But, what is actuarial auditing? I noticed someone in consulting firm who
holds FSA as well as FCA, is that what you meant? Having both actuarial
knowledge and accounting skills?
And also...any other reasons to my original question?

【在 s*******0 的大作中提到】
: consulting have actuarial auditing
: and technique may be better than the traditional insurance company

s*******0
发帖数: 3461
4
咨询公司 有精算审计的业务 这块是必须的 每年 保险公司都要做 为什么要精算师来
审呢 因为 保险公司 有偿付能力报告 准备金报告之类的 光懂财务是没有办法作的
所以 需要咨询公司的精算师 就好象为什么公司有财务 但是还要审计咨询一样. 这些是 针对寿险咨询的
养老金那快 咨询 主要就是帮助 企业制定年金计划 这块和你说的问题 就没什么关系

同时 咨询公司的 技术 可能 要比一般的 保险公司 强一些
有时候 保险公司 会请咨询公司 帮忙 培训精算软件使用 或者一些比较复杂产品的定
价和建摸
我之前的公司 就专门请咨询公司来帮忙做投连的模型
有一本叫 actuarial survival manual 的书 上面有具体 精算工作 分类的介绍
你可以仔细看一下
他 hold 什么证书 和他做什么没什么关系 很多精算是 喜欢 考试
你再去查查 有 cfa + fsa+ phd 的
你可以 加油 看齐
希望 有帮助 呵呵
s*******0
发帖数: 3461
5
网上 可以 下在 实在找不到的话 我也可以发给你 私下
公开传播不好
摘录 关于consulting actuary 的 参考
Consulting Actuaries
Consulting actuaries spend a good deal of their time advising on defined
benefit
pension plans. These are trusts set up to fund tax-assisted retirement
benefits at a
rate spelled out in a legally certified document.
In the United States, senior consulting actuaries are usually members
of the Conference of Consulting Actuaries (CCA). To become a Member of
the CCA, candidates must have completed a minimum of 12 ye
d*******3
发帖数: 148
6
Thanks, sword!
But it seems it only mentioned retirement consulting actuaries. How about
health consulting actuaries?

【在 s*******0 的大作中提到】
: 网上 可以 下在 实在找不到的话 我也可以发给你 私下
: 公开传播不好
: 摘录 关于consulting actuary 的 参考
: Consulting Actuaries
: Consulting actuaries spend a good deal of their time advising on defined
: benefit
: pension plans. These are trusts set up to fund tax-assisted retirement
: benefits at a
: rate spelled out in a legally certified document.
: In the United States, senior consulting actuaries are usually members

Y*H
发帖数: 1582
7
The government contract with consulting firms to do risk adjustment on
medicare/medicaid payment based on the plan's risk pool.
The government also hires consultants to review rate filings of the insurers. Not sure how extensively they do it, but it does happen (anthem blue cross).
Having consultant doing the work also provides savings when companies have financial problems. Less employees = less medical benefit paid, less 401k matching...etc.
Now with the health care reform going on, consultant

【在 d*******3 的大作中提到】
: Thanks, sword!
: But it seems it only mentioned retirement consulting actuaries. How about
: health consulting actuaries?

s*******0
发帖数: 3461
8
赫赫
你的问题真是全面啊 呵呵 consulting actuary 在这边指pension 的 多一点
能不能让我先高明白 你为什么要问这个?

【在 d*******3 的大作中提到】
: Thanks, sword!
: But it seems it only mentioned retirement consulting actuaries. How about
: health consulting actuaries?

c*****r
发帖数: 2866
9
The financial statement of an insurance company is subject to internal audit
and external audit. When it is being audited by an external consulting firm
, the actuarial part of the financial statement needs to be reviewed by a
qualified actuary too (e.g. reserve).
Consulting actuaries have many clients and different types of work which
could lead to better experience and knowledge and greater data source than
the actuaries at a single insurance company. Although they may not be
familiar with the
d*******3
发帖数: 148
10

insurers. Not sure how extensively they do it, but it does happen (anthem
blue cross).
Good to know~~ thanks~

【在 Y*H 的大作中提到】
: The government contract with consulting firms to do risk adjustment on
: medicare/medicaid payment based on the plan's risk pool.
: The government also hires consultants to review rate filings of the insurers. Not sure how extensively they do it, but it does happen (anthem blue cross).
: Having consultant doing the work also provides savings when companies have financial problems. Less employees = less medical benefit paid, less 401k matching...etc.
: Now with the health care reform going on, consultant

d*******3
发帖数: 148
11
out of curiosity, kkk...

【在 s*******0 的大作中提到】
: 赫赫
: 你的问题真是全面啊 呵呵 consulting actuary 在这边指pension 的 多一点
: 能不能让我先高明白 你为什么要问这个?

d*******3
发帖数: 148
12
Thanks a lot, crasher!
Very clear! That's the answer I really want.

audit
firm

【在 c*****r 的大作中提到】
: The financial statement of an insurance company is subject to internal audit
: and external audit. When it is being audited by an external consulting firm
: , the actuarial part of the financial statement needs to be reviewed by a
: qualified actuary too (e.g. reserve).
: Consulting actuaries have many clients and different types of work which
: could lead to better experience and knowledge and greater data source than
: the actuaries at a single insurance company. Although they may not be
: familiar with the

f**********d
发帖数: 47
13
crasher is the man
i assume he is 30+
s*******0
发帖数: 3461
14
crasher is the man
i assume he is 30+
might be 40+ hehe
just a joke
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